diff --git a/book/2006-09.txt b/book/2006-09.txt index 44c104b..dd2159f 100644 --- a/book/2006-09.txt +++ b/book/2006-09.txt @@ -10448,7 +10448,7 @@ To: Waqar Malik From: Camm Maguire Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:58:46 -0400 Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet + Aurelien Chanudet Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) @@ -10789,7 +10789,7 @@ Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:18:17 -0500 Cc: Waqar Malik , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet + gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet Camm Maguire writes: @@ -11135,7 +11135,7 @@ From: Waqar Malik Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:09:06 -0500 To: Camm Maguire Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet + Aurelien Chanudet Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) @@ -11456,7 +11456,7 @@ Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully From: Camm Maguire Date: 07 Sep 2006 22:01:19 -0400 Cc: Waqar Malik , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet + gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet Greetings! @@ -12261,7 +12261,7 @@ To: Waqar Malik From: Camm Maguire Date: 08 Sep 2006 12:15:13 -0400 Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet + Aurelien Chanudet Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) diff --git a/book/2006-11.txt b/book/2006-11.txt index 166fe9a..61d546a 100644 --- a/book/2006-11.txt +++ b/book/2006-11.txt @@ -1,41 +1,13 @@ \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfFKM-0007FR-Vr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfFKK-0007DF-D9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfFKH-0007BP-Jc - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfFKH-0007BH-Ef - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfFKH-0003Xl-9C - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 7DEED68BB7; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:36:12 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id B10FD68B13; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:36:11 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:36:11 -0500 -Thread-Topic: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb88o2trdU9z1U9SCqgtmDJYe5tWwAv2pJg From: Bill Page -To: Camm Maguire, - "Bill Page" Bill Page -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +To: Camm Maguire, Bill Page Subject: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Camm, On Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:43 AM you wrote: ->=20 +> > Greetings, and thanks! OK, please try it now, I think it should be > fixed. Please let me know if problems persist. > @@ -44,7 +16,7 @@ I have rebuilt gcl and restarted the build of Axiom from scratch. Ooops! Looks like the problem has shifted to another symbol. :-( -...=20 +... Compiling /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/axiom.build-improvements/obj/powerpc-app le-darwin6.8/interp/g-util.lsp. @@ -60,35 +32,11 @@ make[1]: *** [interp/stamp] Error 2 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 ppc-osx3:~/osx/axiom.build-improvements $ --------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN6-0002te-FJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN4-0002s1-Ue - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN0-0002lE-AG - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN0-0002kx-51; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:10 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfHN0-00050N-3a; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:10 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfHMn-00055S-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:46:57 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 09:46:57 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -141,49 +89,12 @@ before the (second) call to bsearch. I'll be leaving town tomorrow afternoon until Sunday, but would be happy to fix this quickly today if possible. -Take care, - - -> -------- -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHpq-0007tC-4q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHpo-0007qQ-Eg - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHpl-0007kP-LS - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfHpl-0007k6-I2 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:53 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfHpl-0000Yk-CX - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:53 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfHpD-0005Fl-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:19 -0500 -To: Colin Turner - <54k62mnbri.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <4546412E.4020904@ulster.ac.uk> -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 01 Nov 2006 10:16:19 -0500 -Cc: list, Bill Page, - control@bugs.debian.org, 328480@bugs.debian.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Colin Turner Subject: Re: Bug#328480: axiom: Still seems to be a problem +Cc: Bill Page reopen 328480 forwarded 328480 list @@ -257,62 +168,22 @@ Fellow axiom developers -- any ideas here? Take care, > I'll keep searching the wiki. Thanks for the help. -> -> CT. -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHzq-0003Bk-Fq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHzo-00039J-Mt - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHzj-0002yc-MT - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfHzj-0002yQ-Gr - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:11 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfHzj-0002tY-7V - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:11 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A8FBC68D63; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:27:10 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4AD9B68D8E; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:27:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:27:11 -0500 -Thread-Topic: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb9xJrOmWUccR/RQUmUCQnI+UAUrgABGLVw From: Bill Page -To: Camm Maguire, - Bill Page -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Camm,=20 +Camm, On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:47 AM you wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > > Ooops! Looks like the problem has shifted to another symbol. :-( -> >=20 -> > ...=20 +> > +> > ... > > Compiling -> >=20 +> > > /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/axiom.build-improvements/obj/powerpc-app > > le-darwin6.8/interp/g-util.lsp. > > ...skipping... @@ -326,17 +197,17 @@ On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:47 AM you wrote: > > make[1]: *** [interp/stamp] Error 2 > > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > ppc-osx3:~/osx/axiom.build-improvements $ -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > Sigh. As usual, I cannot reproduce on the mac to which I have > access. I'm assuming you see the same issue with ->=20 +> > (defun foo (x) (declare (long-float x)) (the long-float (sqrt x))) > (compile 'foo) ->=20 +> > Am also assuming that the read-byte test I posted earlier now -> passes.=20 ->=20 +> passes. +> Yes. It seems that problem might be that 'sqrt' does not appear in plt.h. So I added a call to sqrt(d); in plttest.c @@ -349,42 +220,17 @@ Make sense? > the MY_PLT list in plt.h should have one _ stripped, and that the > string passed to my_plt should do the strip in the stn() C macro right > before the (second) call to bsearch. ->=20 +> > I'll be leaving town tomorrow afternoon until Sunday, but would be > happy to fix this quickly today if possible. ->=20 +> I will let you know. -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2L-00014t-HB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:38:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2I-000119-Pj - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2D-0000sW-Jw - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2D-0000sG-EN; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfK2D-0006di-8S; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfK2A-0005u8-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:50 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 12:37:50 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Greetings! @@ -457,63 +303,21 @@ Take care, > > > > I will let you know. -> -> Thanks. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKCY-0002Q3-Ou - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKCW-0002Mh-Ko - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKCS-0002ET-JN - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKCS-0002E4-9b - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:28 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKCS-0008MI-8T - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:28 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id BDB1E65A05; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:47:34 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 85CB4653FE; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:47:28 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:47:30 -0500 -Thread-Topic: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb9xJrOmWUccR/RQUmUCQnI+UAUrgABGLVwAARwFNA= From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Camm,=20 +Camm, On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:27 AM I wrote: > ... > It seems that problem might be that 'sqrt' does not appear in > plt.h. So I added a call to sqrt(d); in plttest.c and I am > running it again. -> ...=20 +> ... Ok, with your earlier change plus adding 'sqrt(d);' to plttest.c that did it! At least I think so. The Axiom build is still @@ -568,40 +372,12 @@ Bill Page. PS. Does anyone want me to try an gcl-based Maxima build on this OSX machine? - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKRI-0005dh-Pm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKRH-0005dK-BC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKRC-0005d0-Kl - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKRC-0005cw-Gg - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:42 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKRC-0004c5-0S - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:42 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfKQP-0005Ze-Nl; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfKQP-0001IP-LF; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 +Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page, Antoine Hersen Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire Bill Page writes: @@ -622,38 +398,12 @@ Bill Page writes: WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! - - - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKeH-0004xe-Pf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKeF-0004us-SR - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKeA-0004oo-RS - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKeA-0004oc-O9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:06 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKeA-0006LZ-Ej - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:06 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfKdI-0004JA-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:16:12 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:16:12 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire +To: list Subject: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire I again had problem with "sock_get_string_buf": trying to use hypertex functions which require Axiom (for example search or tutorial input) @@ -702,45 +452,11 @@ diff -ru pp/build-improvements/src/interp/sockio.lisp.pamphlet build-improvement (defentry sock_get_float (int) (double "sock_get_float")) (defentry sock_send_float (int double) (int "sock_send_float")) - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKic-0005aX-P4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKia-0005V2-O5 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKiR-00054c-1B - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKiQ-00054P-P8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:30 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKiQ-0006mH-Fo - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:30 -0500 -Received: (qmail 6834 invoked by uid 7797); 1 Nov 2006 18:18:25 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.029032 secs); 01 Nov 2006 18:18:25 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 1 Nov 2006 18:18:25 -0000 +\start Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:23:04 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <9q1won59ki.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -752,37 +468,11 @@ like to try building axiom on them as well. Are these changes in the build-improvements branch? --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfL5j-0007ye-DZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfL5g-0007w2-Ku - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfL5f-0007ux-L1 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfL5f-0007ub-8g - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:31 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfL5f-0002Yb-5G - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:31 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfL4j-0006Oy-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:44:33 +0100 -Subject: Re: silver--1--patch-10 -To: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:44:33 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: silver--1--patch-10 > axiom--silver--1--patch-10 is available > @@ -794,60 +484,27 @@ Cc: list You should add that 'asq' does not work with uncompressed databases. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLK6-0003F8-Nw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLK4-0003Cy-U0 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLK1-00035s-Cv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfLK1-00035m-97 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfLK0-0006v5-Ox - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 31FA969025; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:00:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D4BBD68FF1; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:00:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:00:10 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb94poU7icE3eYRR1GnHnHN31jbygAA/Tbw From: Bill Page -To: "Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga" -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:23 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: ->=20 +> > Martin Rubey wrote: ->=20 +> > > WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > I have PowerPC and Intel Macs running OS X 10.4.8 with fink, and > I'd like to try building axiom on them as well. Great! ->=20 +> > Are these changes in the build-improvements branch? ->=20 +> No, not everything is in build-improvements yet - give us a few more hours. :-) @@ -864,40 +521,15 @@ $ cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl -z9 export \ and then do $ cd gcl-2.6.8pre -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local $ make Ask if you need mor details. Let us know how it works. -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLbC-0003Kq-RY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:18:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLb9-0003IZ-T8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:18:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLb5-0003Et-NG - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:18:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfLb5-0003E5-9v - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:17:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfLb5-0002FJ-3D - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:17:59 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfLaF-0007nH-00 - for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:17:07 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:17:07 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: util.ht Axiom sources contain two copies of 'util.ht': one is @@ -915,34 +547,10 @@ us useless (it should be re-created by the build process) and potentially confusing (it may easily get out of date), so it should be also removed from the repository. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfNSh-0002ha-Bh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfNSg-0002gy-73 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfNSd-0002du-O8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfNSd-0002dh-JZ - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:23 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfNSd-0007RT-GD - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:23 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfNS7-0007aJ-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:16:51 -0500 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 01 Nov 2006 16:16:51 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -1024,43 +632,11 @@ Take care, > (defentry sock_get_float (int) (double "sock_get_float")) > (defentry sock_send_float (int double) (int "sock_send_float")) > -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOSb-0000si-N1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOSa-0000r2-IV - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOSZ-0000ph-Gt - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfOSZ-0000pU-9Q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:23 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfOSY-0008RA-TP - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:23 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfORi-0004N4-00 - for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:20:30 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:20:30 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: hypertex and uses info All versions of hypertex that I used crashed (or maybe showed nothing) @@ -1230,42 +806,16 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet build-improvements/ #+:AKCL (if (library-file filearg) --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOk6-0002Ii-O6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOk4-0002HM-VC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOk2-0002GU-2t - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfOk1-0002GR-QI - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:25 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.28] (helo=smtp-msa-out03.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfOk1-0003BY-L1 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:25 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.28.144]) - by mwinf0301.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 78EC41C00548; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:38:58 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:38:47 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 =E0 23:20 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : [...] - =20 + > diff -ru build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet build-impr= ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > --- build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:3= @@ -1273,9 +823,9 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > +++ build-improvements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:36:0= 0.000000000 +0100 > @@ -448,17 +448,23 @@ -> :test #'string=3D)=20 -> :test #'string=3D)))) -> =20 +> :test #'string=) +> :test #'string=)))) +> > +(defun axiom-probe-file (file) > + (if (equal (|directoryp| file) -1) > + nil @@ -1288,13 +838,13 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > (dirname (pathname-directory filename)) > (ft (pathname-type filename)) > (dirs (get-directory-list ft)) -> - (newfn nil)) =20 +> - (newfn nil)) > + (newfn nil)) > (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) > (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -> (when=20 -> - (probe-file=20 -> + (axiom-probe-file=20 +> (when +> - (probe-file +> + (axiom-probe-file > (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) > (return newfn))) > (probe-name filename)))) @@ -1313,7 +863,7 @@ Why not modifying and using probe-name ? Actually I use: @@ -436,7 +436,11 @@ (namestring (merge-pathnames (make-filename filearg filetype)))) -=20 + (defun probe-name (file) - (if (probe-file file) (namestring file) nil)) + (cond @@ -1321,16 +871,16 @@ Why not modifying and using probe-name ? Actually I use: + ((probe-file file) file) + ((eql (|directoryp| file) 1) (namestring (truename file))) + (t nil))) -=20 + (defun get-directory-list (ft &aux (cd (namestring $current-directory))) - (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=3D) + (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=) @@ -457,8 +461,8 @@ - (newfn nil)) =20 + (newfn nil)) (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -- (when=20 -- (probe-file=20 +- (when +- (probe-file + (when + (probe-name (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) @@ -1343,38 +893,17 @@ Greg PS: For $erase (see another mail) I directly use directoryp. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPCz-0002kF-2R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPCx-0002gR-1U - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPCv-0002d4-E9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPCu-0002cV-P9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPCu-0000BM-6Q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:16 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfPC3-0006sy-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:08:23 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:08:23 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 ? 23:20 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : ->=20 +> > [...] -> =20 +> > > diff -ru build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet build-impr= ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > --- build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:3= @@ -1382,9 +911,9 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > +++ build-improvements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:36:0= 0.000000000 +0100 > > @@ -448,17 +448,23 @@ -> > :test #'string=3D)=20 -> > :test #'string=3D)))) -> > =20 +> > :test #'string=) +> > :test #'string=)))) +> > > > +(defun axiom-probe-file (file) > > + (if (equal (|directoryp| file) -1) > > + nil @@ -1397,13 +926,13 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > (dirname (pathname-directory filename)) > > (ft (pathname-type filename)) > > (dirs (get-directory-list ft)) -> > - (newfn nil)) =20 +> > - (newfn nil)) > > + (newfn nil)) > > (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) > > (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -> > (when=20 -> > - (probe-file=20 -> > + (axiom-probe-file=20 +> > (when +> > - (probe-file +> > + (axiom-probe-file > > (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) > > (return newfn))) > > (probe-name filename)))) @@ -1416,13 +945,13 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > #+:CCL (delete-file filearg) > > #+:AKCL > > (if (library-file filearg) ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Why not modifying and using probe-name ? Actually I use: ->=20 +> > @@ -436,7 +436,11 @@ > (namestring (merge-pathnames (make-filename filearg filetype)))) -> =20 +> > (defun probe-name (file) > - (if (probe-file file) (namestring file) nil)) > + (cond @@ -1430,28 +959,28 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > + ((probe-file file) file) > + ((eql (|directoryp| file) 1) (namestring (truename file))) > + (t nil))) -> =20 +> > (defun get-directory-list (ft &aux (cd (namestring > $current-directory))) -> (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=3D) +> (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=) > @@ -457,8 +461,8 @@ -> (newfn nil)) =20 +> (newfn nil)) > (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) > (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -> - (when=20 -> - (probe-file=20 +> - (when +> - (probe-file > + (when > + (probe-name > (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) > (return newfn))) > (probe-name filename)))) ->=20 +> > It's just what I use, not that I disagree. ->=20 +> > Greg ->=20 +> > PS: For $erase (see another mail) I directly use directoryp. -=20 + No very strong reason. However: 1) 'axiom-probe-file' is intended to be good replacement for 'probe-file'. @@ -1464,55 +993,22 @@ No very strong reason. However: 3) 'probe-name' is doing a lot of extra work (calls 'probe-file' first, then calls 'namestring' -Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp':=20 +Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp': something which has name endig in 'p' should return a boolean. What 'directoryp' returns is unexepected, so wide use of 'directoryp' would make interpreter code hareder to read. ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPUk-0000iU-5a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPUi-0000gD-Ev - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPUf-0000d0-CZ - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPUf-0000cg-7g - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:37 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfP8U-0007o3-6D - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:04:42 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3C4E968B41; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:04:41 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6B7B868A16; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:04:39 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:04:51 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb94BWR5NUjf64aQ8eBmaRQD9ChwAAJ3yWQ From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: gcl-devel@gnu.org, Camm Maguire, - list +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:03 PM Martin Rubey wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! ->=20 +> Well, the build of AXIOMsys completed successfully. You can download a console-only version of Axiom for native MAC OSX 10 @@ -1527,8 +1023,8 @@ As usual, untar it into a convenient place like /usr/local and then setup the AXIOM and PATH variables like this: - $ export AXIOM=3D/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 - $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH + $ export AXIOM=/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 + $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH and start Axiom like this: @@ -1558,33 +1054,10 @@ available. I look forward to some comments from MAC users! :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPXB-0003rs-4B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPX9-0003oh-Bc - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPX7-0003ki-Eb - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPX6-0003jn-Qk; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:08 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfPX6-0003kW-Hm; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:08 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfPWt-0005Is-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:29:55 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 18:29:55 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Greetings! @@ -1671,49 +1144,11 @@ I am concluding that with the possible exception of fc6, gcl 2.6.8 is ready vis a vis axiom. It would be most helpful if someone could confirm the Fedora status for me. -Take care, - -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPaE-0000gX-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPaC-0000eh-4x - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPaA-0000do-Gb - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPaA-0000dY-AP - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:18 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPaA-00048U-40 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:18 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfPa8-0007tX-KH; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:33:16 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfPa8-0003Tb-I0; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:33:16 +0100 +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:33:20 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:33:20 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -1737,33 +1172,10 @@ Does this mean that "uses" works now? If so, I have to get build improvements immediately! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPbg-0002ap-O1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPbe-0002XE-Q9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPbb-0002R7-5O - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPba-0002Qj-V9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:47 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPba-0004JS-K9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:47 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfPab-0000TM-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:33:45 +0100 -To: Camm Maguire Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:33:45 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf > Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -1839,35 +1251,11 @@ callbacks from C to Lisp). If (as I hope) GCL will not trigger garbage collection form a signal handler, keeping strings in relocatable memory should be safe. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPgO-00068I-5v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPgM-000646-Ev - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPgJ-0005vJ-T8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPgJ-0005ug-JE - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:39 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPgJ-0005VQ-Cb - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:39 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfPfK-0000WR-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:38:38 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -To: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:38:38 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -1894,42 +1282,16 @@ Cc: list With the patch yes (ATM the patch is not commited). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPqL-0001cK-Ke - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:50:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPqJ-0001b0-Uv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:50:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPqI-0001YN-5O - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:49:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPqI-0001YG-1y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:49:58 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.30] (helo=smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPqI-0007F8-2q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:49:58 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.28.144]) - by mwinf0112.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 02D711C00607; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:49:32 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:48:56 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 =E0 00:08 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : [...] > No very strong reason. However: ->=20 +> > 1) 'axiom-probe-file' is intended to be good replacement for 'probe-fil= e'. > More precisely, Axiom uses directories to implement what Microsoft @@ -1950,7 +1312,7 @@ As far as I know probe-name is only used in nlib.lisp.pamphlet. Yes, and namestring is not necessary. -> Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp':=20 +> Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp': > something which has name endig in 'p' should return a boolean. > What 'directoryp' returns is unexepected, so wide use of 'directoryp' > would make interpreter code hareder to read. @@ -1959,45 +1321,13 @@ Yes, not the lisp convention. Anyway these things need to be fixed, no matter for me how this will be done. Thank you so much (as Martin implicitly says :-). I am, as Martin, -a Hyperdoc adept.=20 - -Greg - - - +a Hyperdoc adept. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPuc-00048i-PX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPua-000481-Sf - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPuY-000472-Ao - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPuY-00046y-5y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPuY-00088u-8E - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E40C40F09 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:53:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA1Nn566026304 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:49:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA1Nn59e026303; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100 Bill Page writes: @@ -2012,52 +1342,21 @@ Bill Page writes: I never quite understood why readline needs to be replaced. Do you know? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ5S-0000J7-RT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ5R-0000Ff-Ay - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ5Q-0000Ew-Ki - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQ5Q-0000Eh-Ga - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:36 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQ5P-00030R-Tv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:36 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 46CCC6927D; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:05:35 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id B36A26919C; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:05:33 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:05:52 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+ERa+caVitf6RTjKOjRLC6Y+xLwAACiSg From: Bill Page To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:49 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | ... Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not > | have support for the pts virtual terminal interface so it is > | not possible yet to compile clef (the replacement for readline). ->=20 -> I never quite understood why readline needs to be replaced. =20 +> +> I never quite understood why readline needs to be replaced. > Do you know? ->=20 +> I think the foremost reason is that clef (aka. "edible") was part of Axiom long before readline existed. @@ -2078,43 +1377,12 @@ other hand, readline can be a pain sometimes when you are trying to drive a program through a pipe and/or pty interface... so it is desirable also to be able to disable readline also. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ79-0001x9-AN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ77-0001wM-PD - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ75-0001vo-0A - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQ74-0001vl-Sw - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:18 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQ74-0003Ze-GI - for list; 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Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:04:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:04:21 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:04:21 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -2213,43 +1450,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Then directoryp should be probably fixed. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQCJ-0005B4-SR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQCG-000597-Qu - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQCE-00057w-Ps - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQCE-00057l-4c - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQCE-0004WS-0A - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FBC40F5B; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:12:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA208BKa026718; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:08:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA208BPY026717; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:08:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info - <1162424937.3217.38.camel@ellipse> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:08:11 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: @@ -2259,39 +1464,16 @@ Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: | done. Yes. I would like to see those fixed, instead of being worke-around -by bits-n-pieces.=20=20 +by bits-n-pieces. I'm no adept of don't touch it because "it works." That is how the source code gets bit-rotten - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQHN-0000Ur-DK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQHL-0000Ow-3l - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQHK-0000Mt-15 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQHJ-0000Mn-Qt - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:53 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQHJ-0005D5-Li - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:53 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfQGS-0003GC-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:17:00 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:17:00 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > Bill Page writes: > @@ -2325,44 +1507,11 @@ It may do it in slightly different way, but quite a lot of unix programs (beggining with Xterm) would brake without pty's. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQME-00009l-JT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQMC-000080-U7 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQMC-00006h-4z - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQMB-00006S-VV - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQMB-0005tf-RE - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D64540E22; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:22:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA20ITp5026932; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:18:31 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA20ITXo026931; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:18:29 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:18:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:18:29 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -2425,50 +1574,19 @@ options. But, building Axiom as we currently do, I have We have to investigate that case. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQNG-0001Hm-CK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:24:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQNE-0001FC-Rz - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:24:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQND-0001D3-Ge - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQND-0001Cv-DU - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQNC-00065F-VR - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 49C86692C9; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:23:58 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 83FFB692A7; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:23:57 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:24:19 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+FF0D2dTqqZD4T7GeO8ObPloAiwAAEWSw From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > BTW: I do not belive that MACOSX does not support pty's. > It may do it in slightly different way, but quite a lot > of unix programs (beggining with Xterm) would brake > without pty's. ->=20 +> I would be glad to hear more information about this. I found several references on the web stating clearly that @@ -2482,45 +1600,11 @@ available time. It would be greate if someone could share their knowledge and experience with this issue. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQRX-0003Xm-60 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQRU-0003Up-H4 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQRT-0003U7-SA - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQRT-0003Ts-NG - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:23 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQRT-0006qx-I6 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:23 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA20SB4K022831 - for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:28:15 -0500 -Received: (qmail 3047 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 00:28:11 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 2 Nov 2006 00:28:11 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA20IM404657; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:18:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:18:22 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 02 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -2533,56 +1617,25 @@ Cc: list clef knows more than readline. given an input file it can do smart command line completion of things like domain names. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQSE-00041K-37 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQSC-00040f-6b - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQSB-000408-1Y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQSA-000405-Ug - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQSA-00071K-T6 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:07 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 2A8A868E1B; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:29:06 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5B68B68BEB; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:29:05 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:29:27 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+EfQdqybijJXFQDyQM4TtfTn3/AAAbLIw From: Bill Page -To: "Raymond Manzoni" -Cc: list +To: Raymond Manzoni +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > ... > Thank you for the binary! (I am on OS X 10.4.8) > Unfortunately I got : ->=20 +> > $ AXIOMsys -> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl.=20 +> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl. > 8.dylib -> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/=20 +> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/ > AXIOMsys > Reason: image not found > Trace/BPT trap ->=20 +> > So some remaining path problems I fear... > @@ -2600,49 +1653,26 @@ set. If you do have libintl somewhere on you system, perhaps you can try setting -export LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/lib/where-ever-it-is +export LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/where-ever-it-is I am surprised to see the AXIOMsys binary include a full path name to this external library! Must be something pretty weird about these .dylib files. ;) -> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the=20 +> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the > gcl/axiom source code if it's available somewhere. > (tomorrow since it's late here...). ->=20 +> Ok, tommorrow. Thanks for checking in to this! -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQiX-0003Km-RL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:46:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQiV-0003FZ-Qk - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQiT-000399-TL - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQiT-00038T-Ec - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:57 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQiS-0001FD-PC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:57 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfQhW-0005Q1-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:44:58 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:44:58 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > ... @@ -2682,41 +1712,11 @@ to look is '/dev' directory contains things like '/dev/ptyq0' and '/dev/ttyq0' (this is a traditional name for legacy pty's). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQsS-00084g-0T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQsQ-00083j-57 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQsN-0007zS-Qv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQsN-0007yx-MI - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:11 -0500 -Received: from [66.196.97.73] (helo=web56714.mail.re3.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQsN-0002vz-2q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:11 -0500 -Received: (qmail 82105 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2006 00:56:10 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=u2VkYyAp646Bg6DaMGp9heNvxT25FsD5OGw8QfmJRjxBWhrXKJyxCUHd/GSb2xC5RoLiVSIPxvVSffzJFc6brSHNiBoq1FOj+Z/hunDSr1wsBGQzPDqQZCg56Um7EKFkDJ/u4y/92NPMFv+znyKzt+2e6wNrW2k5gLQ//7AuMv4= - ; -Received: from [70.161.122.154] by web56714.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:56:10 PST +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:56:10 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page, - Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -2735,53 +1735,11 @@ with a lot of lisps instead of just GCL, which might be useful for things like porting down the road. And its license should pose no problem. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups -(http://groups.yahoo.com) - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRE7-00075W-NH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRE6-00072Y-0j - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRE4-0006zc-0m - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRE3-0006zS-Ta - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:35 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRE3-0005m2-Hh - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:35 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24931 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 01:15:33 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.062782 secs); 02 Nov 2006 01:15:33 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 01:15:33 -0000 +\start Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:18:22 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7" -Cc: list This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7 @@ -2794,30 +1752,30 @@ Page, Bill wrote: >>> >> I have PowerPC and Intel Macs running OS X 10.4.8 with fink, and >> I'd like to try building axiom on them as well. ->=20 +> > Great! ->=20 +> >> Are these changes in the build-improvements branch? >> ->=20 +> > No, not everything is in build-improvements yet - give us a few > more hours. :-) ->=20 +> > In the mean time I would be very interested if you could start > by just trying to buiuld the gcl lisp compiler. This is a pre- > requiste for the Axiom build. You can get the version we will be > using in build-improvements directly from the gcl CVS archive via > the command line: ->=20 +> > $ cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl -z9 export \ > -Dtoday -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl ->=20 +> > and then do ->=20 +> > $ cd gcl-2.6.8pre -> $ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local +> $ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local > $ make ->=20 +> > Ask if you need mor details. Let us know how it works. On PowerPC, make fails: @@ -2836,68 +1794,19 @@ On Intel, configure of gmp fails, as it can't figure out the machine type. I have gmp 4.2.1 installed with fink, but I don't think I can build gcl with that version of gmp. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSUdmO8aX8Tqx8vgRAgwGAKCMVbLGn77NURqJXm1HL6ylGWd6+ACdE7jG -b2V87NNbRD01BBKwtM78G+4= -=TPFn ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRHF-0006I3-0W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRHC-0006CI-Iz - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRHA-00069Q-4Q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRH9-00068j-Rw - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:48 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRH9-0006Mf-JT - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:47 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0C8E969260; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:21:47 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9344D6925A; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:21:45 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:21:39 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+GER28ThtnOF3Sv29WvkbELQ1vAAAaYfw From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:45 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> =20 +> > I am affraid I can not really offer Mac experience. However > the first Goole hit for: MACOSX pty is: ->=20 +> > Mac OS X pty Permission Security Issue ->=20 +> > Now, something which does not exits should have no security > problems, so I would belive that Mac OS X has pty. @@ -2909,16 +1818,16 @@ change in OSX a lot since 10.3. > OTOH this security problem is solved by Unix 98 pty's (in > other words Linux /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts), so we can infer > that Mac OS X has only legacy pty (so you should use BSD -> branch).=20 +> branch). > What do you mean by "BSD branch"? -=20 + > BTW: I you are logged into a Mac OS X machine you can try > to look is '/dev' directory contains things like '/dev/ptyq0' > and '/dev/ttyq0' (this is a traditional name for legacy > pty's). -> =20 +> Yes, I see for example: @@ -2953,38 +1862,10 @@ Maybe it is just that I don't understand that MAC library setup. >From what else I can get from the web, I should expect to find these functions in libc (-lc). -Any ideas? - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPW-0007HG-QQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPU-0007GW-Bo - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPS-0007GK-2U - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPR-0007GH-VX; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRPR-0001hQ-Ir; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:21 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfRPQ-0006aM-9K; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:20 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfROD-0006BL-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:29:05 -0500 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:29:05 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf Greetings! @@ -3088,49 +1969,12 @@ Take care, > callbacks from C to Lisp). If (as I hope) GCL will not trigger garbage > collection form a signal handler, keeping strings in relocatable memory > should be safe. -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRRb-0001qp-Cy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRRa-0001q3-Ba - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRRX-0001pb-Pv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRRX-0001pY-LS - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRRX-0003Ps-MP - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRRW-0006oP-CB - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:30 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfRQx-0006Bk-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:31:55 -0500 +\start +Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:31:55 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:31:55 -0500 -Cc: list Greetings! Here is the patch in 2005901-9: @@ -3215,63 +2059,25 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > I would like to see the final patch, e.g. the things that would be > committed, including the explanation of what the code and what is > going in the pamphletss. -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRuA-0007MS-Hp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRu8-0007Fw-Sq - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRu8-0007Cf-4Y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRu8-0007CM-23 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:04 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRu6-0003u4-L6 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5CC48694C0; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:02:02 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 89C866941C; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:02:01 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:01:51 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+HON0m09W167YQJqOfGZ15xVB+AABG4eA From: Bill Page -To: "Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > On PowerPC, make fails: ->=20 +> > gcc -o raw_pre_gcl \ > -L. -lpre_gcl `echo -lSM -lICE -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXmu -lXt -lXext > -lXaw -lX11 -lm -lreadline -lncurses | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` > -lintl -lc -lgclp > /usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lintl > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ->=20 +> > Fink installed a version of libintl from gettext-dev 0.10.40, so I've > added a "-L/sw/lib" and am retrying the build now. > @@ -3280,11 +2086,11 @@ Here is a recipe that seems to work for me and avoids reference to fink or other non-gcl related libraries: $ export -LIBRARY_PATH=3D/home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/new/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils/in= +LIBRARY_PATH=/home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/new/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils/in= t l $ make clean - $ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --enable-locbfd = + $ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-locbfd = --disable-statsysbfd $ make $ make install @@ -3294,11 +2100,11 @@ I have a new batch of Axiom cooking with this version of gcl. Note: It seems to be necessary to specify the --endable-locfd option to ensure that the bfd internal to gcl is configured with internal gettext. -=20 + > On Intel, configure of gmp fails, as it can't figure out the machine > type. I have gmp 4.2.1 installed with fink, but I don't think I can > build gcl with that version of gmp. ->=20 +> Too bad. :-( There are some options that affect gcl's use of gmp. See ./configure --help You might try: @@ -3308,48 +2114,12 @@ See ./configure --help You might try: I have also Cc: Camm Maquire, the primary GCL developer who might have some other suggestions for your Mac Intel platform. -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfSD9-0005uv-GC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfSD6-0005ot-QF - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfSD4-0005jn-1f - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfSD3-0005jU-TC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:37 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfSD3-0006oO-Ew - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 27441 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 02:18:36 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.105998 secs); 02 Nov 2006 02:18:36 -0000 - list, Camm Maguire -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 02:18:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:21:21 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig66135B90A32B972C0BE791BA" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig66135B90A32B972C0BE791BA @@ -3361,83 +2131,31 @@ Page, Bill wrote: >> type. I have gmp 4.2.1 installed with fink, but I don't think I can >> build gcl with that version of gmp. >> ->=20 +> > Too bad. :-( There are some options that affect gcl's use of gmp. > See ./configure --help You might try: ->=20 +> > --disable-dynsysgmp My bad, this was a configure error in gcl, not gmp. The gmp configure and build seems to work. I made a copy of h/powerpc-macosx.defs and h/powerpc-macosx.h and called - ./configure --enable-machine=3Di386-macosx --prefix=3D/usr/local + ./configure --enable-machine=i386-macosx --prefix=/usr/local --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd Now there's some problems with malloc.h not being found. configure.in has a test for powerpc-macosx that should be duplicated for the new i386-macosx target. 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Grozin To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -3968,45 +2481,11 @@ readline is licensed under GPL (not LGPL). When Axiom was a commercial product, it could not use readline. Now it cannot use readline, too, because it is BSD-licensed (arrgh). -Andrey - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfYHm-0001oR-OP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfYHk-0001n8-Ak - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfYHi-0001mK-WA - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfYHi-0001m6-AP - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfYHi-0005SQ-6j - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:50 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA28oXm5026257 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:50:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32419 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 08:50:34 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gabriel Dos Reis; 2 Nov 2006 08:50:34 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA28eoQ15023; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:40:50 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:40:50 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Andrey G. Grozin - (Andrey G. Grozin) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - -Cc: axiom-legal@nongnu.org, list > > Bill Page writes: > > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows @@ -4031,33 +2510,11 @@ sees no license problems that arise in either direction. That said, I beg of you not to continue a legal discussion in the developer list. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfZDz-0008Ki-U7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:51:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfZDw-0008IN-6J - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:51:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfZDv-0008Hs-BQ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:50:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfZDv-0008Hj-5P - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:50:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfZDu-0004FE-IX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:50:58 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfZD0-000284-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:50:02 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:50:02 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:45 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > @@ -4178,35 +2635,11 @@ These are Unix 98 pty routines. Somebody should check if Mac OS X 10.4 supports them, but all sources claim that earlier versions do not have them. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbJz-0004tq-BF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbJx-0004p3-Hh - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbJs-0004Yz-F5 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfbJs-0004YZ-27 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfbJr-0003A8-Kc - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:15 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfbIx-0002ck-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:04:19 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -To: Ralf Hemmecke +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:04:19 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that @@ -4229,43 +2662,11 @@ are text files, but in general Postscript may contain binary data. I think in the future we should decide if we want binary Postscript in source repository (ATM I did not touch .ps files). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbZN-0005a4-An - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbZL-0005Yo-QT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbZI-0005Vc-Gd - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfbZI-0005VT-EO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:12 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfbZI-0005MR-17 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:12 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p46so1494478nfa - for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:21:10 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; - b=Q3gKo1nsgFcDOMohoFql+eR+xMQWBtsCmhREtrHzTDaoUpa/1bbixtQOI1d1eMGwp3F7/Z835e79nAoa2fcVLKq00f+i2BqQdgRAnNuDm07oIqPbdF8ARcEWUpnjLE/7mM/bt6uy6FqUBsjJvPyRuCxzuL/m8vv7T4FEj2rxtbY= -Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr5538988nfl.1162470069562; - Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:21:09 -0800 (PST) -Received: from morphism.heartland ( [62.14.113.80]) - by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a24sm8876964nfc.2006.11.02.04.21.08; - Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:21:09 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:21:06 +0100 -From: "Juan M. Bello Rivas" +From: Juan Rivas To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - Hi, @@ -4284,39 +2685,11 @@ http://blog.superadditive.com/2006/10/28/using-axiom-with-vi-keystrokes/ For the moment it has worked well. --- -Juan M. Bello Rivas - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcDz-0003az-PX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcDy-0003Zv-46 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcDs-0003WL-SO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfcDr-0003VI-Pa - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:08 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfcDr-0007Th-6P - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:07 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA2D3132020597 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:03:01 +0100 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:04:58 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -Cc: list Hello, @@ -4366,90 +2739,12 @@ generated from Axiom commands will go away. The HyperDoc screenshots are probably more tricky to generate automatically at compile-time. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcTY-00074W-UN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcTX-00074R-C4 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcTV-000742-Tc - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfcTV-00073y-R3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:17 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfcTV-0003DX-My - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:17 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfcSX-0008Vg-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:18:17 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:18:17 +0100 (CET) -From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list - -Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> On 11/02/2006 01:04 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> > .ht, .pht, .bitmap, .pixmap, .xbm and .data in Axiom distribution are -> > text files. Hyperdoc uses byte counts to access .ht and .pht, but -> > the file positions should be recomputed anyway. -> -> Since I don't live too deep in .ht and .pht things, what does that mean? -> Do you want to recompute the byte-offsets at the time these files are -> copied to the /mnt directory? If you do that then it clearly classifies -> those files as being generated and no source anymore. Then they should -> not live under SVN at all. -> - -Byte offsets are stored in 'ht.db' -- I proposed its removal from -the source repository. .pht things could be generated, but ATM -this stops at various places waiting for keyboard input. The largest -.ht files are NAG documention -- we have no source the generate them. -Most of the other .ht files are generated (extracted) from Axiom book, -but we need to write an extraction program. For this it would help -to see NAG version of Axiom book -- the one in open is heavily -modified by Tim. - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcwz-0003sb-2C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcww-0003oz-2C - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcwq-0003gD-W8 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcwq-0003fP-C0; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:36 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.63] (helo=mail243.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gfcwq-0001bk-CX; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:36 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail243.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2DmjVJ014813; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:49:02 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:48:31 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Re: sock_get_string_buf -Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:48:31 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire On November 2, 2006 2:29 AM Tim Daly wrote: > ... @@ -4475,41 +2770,13 @@ encourage gcl to use it's own built-in version of gettext: These should be the default of MAC OSX -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdAS-0005nG-Vh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdAP-0005i6-Kr - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdAJ-0005Um-NG - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdAI-0005U8-VR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:31 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdAI-0004dt-CS - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:30 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdA4-0002Rg-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:16 -0500 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <45495621.7070602@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:03:16 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga writes: > Page, Bill wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -4545,59 +2812,13 @@ Just a note, this should be the default if no external gmp is found. Thanks so much for your work on this! Will be back in town on Sunday. -Take care, - -> -- -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdEL-0008ST-KC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdEK-0008P2-48 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdEH-0008Et-8c - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdEG-0008EX-Mu - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:37 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdEG-0005Ht-AR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB424F44D; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:07:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2E38Ch004953; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:03:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2E38Rs004952; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:03:08 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -4614,39 +2835,13 @@ In what sense that "more knowledge" is unattainable with readline. I dislike all those duplicated things in Axiom. They are nothing but source of confusion. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFb-0003hQ-HI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFa-0003d0-1S - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFX-0003WN-WC - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFX-0003Vh-Nt; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:55 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfdFX-0005S7-Fv; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:55 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdEy-0002Tc-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0500 +Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54ac3azlem.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200611020236.kA22aEi13787@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org -Greetings! - -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl > @@ -4682,58 +2877,14 @@ view. Still bfd is somewhat unique in that the upstream specifically forbids the normal type of shared library dependency as its internal api changes so frequently and without notice. -Take care, - -> t -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLe-0008RL-2L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLb-0008Ks-Q9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLY-0008Dg-0O - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdLX-0008D2-8A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:07 -0500 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Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:10:33 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -4753,79 +2904,53 @@ development is present, is not not it invokes GCL's configure with In the future, GCL should do that -- I'll commit patch to GCL's trunk, not 2.6.8pre branch. --- gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLp-0000LB-82 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLn-0000Hd-AA - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLm-0000G4-Hs - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLm-0000FU-4R; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:22 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfdLl-0006dE-Ny; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:22 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdLD-00079J-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:14:47 -0500 +Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:14:47 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54ac3azlem.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200611020348.kA23mck14876@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:14:47 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl ->=20 +> > successfully builds on FreeBSD ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > fails on MAC OSX PPC ->=20 +> > config.status: creating po/Makefile.in > config.status: executing depfiles commands > config.status: executing default commands -> file=3D./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ -> && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH msgfmt -o $file fr.po +> file=./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ +> && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH msgfmt -o $file fr.po > /bin/sh: line 1: msgfmt: command not found > make[3]: *** [fr.gmo] Error 127 > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 > make: *** [binutils/bfd/libbfd.a] Error 2 -> sh-2.05b#=20 ->=20 +> sh-2.05b# +> OK, am looking into --disable-nls for this. -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +> ========================= +========================== +=============== In all of the following, --disable-statsysbfd --enable-locbfd is needed. configure should be smarter, but I'm unsure as to whether automating this determination should go into 2.6.8, as it could be -tricky.=20 +tricky. ->=20 -> fails on debian=20 ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> fails on debian +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:17:17: bfd.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:18:21: bfdlink.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:231: error: syntax error before "bfd_combined_table_update" @@ -4856,19 +2981,19 @@ nfo' > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 -> debian:~/gcl-2.6.8pre#=20 +> debian:~/gcl-2.6.8pre# ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > fails on ubuntu ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:17:17: error: bfd.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:18:21: error: bfdlink.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:231: error: syntax error before =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98bfd_combin= @@ -4900,32 +3025,32 @@ struct bfd_link_info=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 ->=20 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > successfully builds on Fedora 4 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > successfully builds on Fedora 5 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > fails on Fedora 6 ->=20 ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:17:17: error: bfd.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:18:21: error: bfdlink.h: No such file or directory -> fat_string.c:231: error: expected =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98=3D=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99= +> fat_string.c:231: error: expected =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98==C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99= , =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98,=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99, =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98;=C3=A2=C2=80=C2= =99, =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98asm=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 or =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98__attribu= te__=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 before =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98bfd_combined_table_update= @@ -4947,28 +3072,28 @@ struct bfd_link_info=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 -> [root@dhcppc0 gcl-2.6.8pre]#=20 ->=20 +> [root@dhcppc0 gcl-2.6.8pre]# +> Has the segfault at the raw_pre_gcl stage you reported earlier disappeared? ->=20 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > successfully builds on RedHat 9 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 -> yields=20 ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> +> yields +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:231: parse error before `bfd_combined_table_update' > fat_string.c:231: warning: return type defaults to `int' > fat_string.c: In function `fSset_up_combined': @@ -4979,61 +3104,17 @@ r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 ->=20 +> > on RedHat 7.2 ->=20 -> t ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -Take care, - ---=20 -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdNO-0003TV-To - for 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Bill Page writes: @@ -5141,88 +3198,24 @@ Take care, > > I have also Cc: Camm Maquire, the primary GCL developer who might > have some other suggestions for your Mac Intel platform. -> -> Thanks. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdXL-0003nj-MW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdXK-0003jH-Ah - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdXJ-0003fm-FD - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdXJ-0003f9-Au - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:17 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdXJ-0001Ln-6F - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:17 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdWl-0007GS-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:26:43 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:26:43 -0500 -Cc: list, Tom Hargreaves, control@bugs.debian.org, - 346552@bugs.debian.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: msgfmt requirement in GCL +Cc: Tom Hargreaves ... should now be removed, thanks to Gaby's suggestion -- --disable-nls added to the subconfigures. Please let me know if problems persist here. -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfdhf-0001QW-ST - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfdhd-0001N1-B9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdhY-0001I4-IC - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdhY-0001Hj-35 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:52 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdhX-0002hD-UF - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:52 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2Eb8Oc006805; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:37:22 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:36:50 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Camm, +From: Bill Page +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On November 2, 2006 9:22 AM you wrote: > ... @@ -5270,42 +3263,13 @@ to static link this library? > BTW, out of town till Sunday. > -Have a good trip! :-) - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3K-00042p-LE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3J-00040j-9D - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3E-0003sx-Vm - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3E-0003sX-Iq; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:16 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gfe3E-0006Jx-4V; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:16 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gfe39-0007qu-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:11 -0500 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Camm Maguire Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:00:11 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > On November 2, 2006 2:29 AM Tim Daly wrote: > > ... @@ -5338,58 +3302,11 @@ line. But msgfmt is still not in the path, though might be made so. In any case, I just added --disable-nls which omits these calls to msgfmt. -Take care, - -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3X-0004PE-DE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3V-0004L6-A7 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3Q-0004CC-7I - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfe3Q-0004Bv-2A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfe3P-0006LQ-Gk - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:27 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBDE41196; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:00:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2Etwvl006522; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:56:01 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2EtwDC006521; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:55:58 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:55:58 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54ac3azlem.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200611020348.kA23mck14876@localhost.localdomain> - <54irhyc4vc.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:55:58 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -5429,43 +3346,11 @@ I have the following on axiom.build-improvements to detect that. $axiom_gcl_bfd_option --enable-maxpage=256*1024" @ --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeWW-0001xI-CL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeWT-0001sC-8p - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeWP-0001jb-DF - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeWO-0001jA-Tk - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:24 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfeWO-0004KH-Tg - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:25 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA2FU4HO011742 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:30:08 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20581 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 15:30:05 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Ralf Hemmecke; 2 Nov 2006 15:30:05 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA2FKOu15604; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:20:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:20:24 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:04:19 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -Cc: list > > Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that > > @@ -5505,44 +3390,12 @@ just like everything else. Although I chose arch and it "does the right thing" I have to say that GIT seems to have the SCM philosophy most clearly implemented. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeXa-0002a7-Dm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeXY-0002ZB-Dx - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeXO-0002Tb-QZ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeXO-0002TE-Jn - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:26 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfeDC-0000S3-8r - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:10:34 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25726 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.039853 secs); 02 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0000 - list, Camm Maguire -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:13 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Page, Bill wrote: > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -5619,50 +3472,12 @@ _my_free _my_malloc collect2: ld returned 1 exit status - --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfemf-0004ny-HI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfemc-0004iQ-FQ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfemV-0004UB-7s - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfemV-0004Sn-1J - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:03 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfemU-0007TE-BM - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:02 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA2Fkg52030297 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:46:43 -0500 -Received: (qmail 27798 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 15:46:41 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 2 Nov 2006 15:46:41 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA2Fb0V15635; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:37:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:37:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org - +Cc: Camm Maguire > > ... > > fails on MAC OSX PPC @@ -5697,41 +3512,12 @@ equivalent but have not yet found it. There is no apt-get or yum tool for the MAC that I can find. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff7s-0004Fg-II - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff7q-0004Bh-Ix - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff7k-0003yU-Vk - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gff7k-0003y8-OZ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:00 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.169] (helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gff7k-0003Bs-EL - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:00 -0500 -Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so146764ugd - for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=mTAF4NFrPJCaWZg+AjQ4F4KJK8ICn7HAAtjjxt1bQIWOZ+6IvFeLRc1ewgwCtx246jczFyufsmK3x/U60/HK0ulZJONmA6c744Ch6B7BoKsRlxoavtZzM58xQebQK6f1kVsNZpeETm+/JdW5JMPiULrAewgbail2iig63yN8yjs= -Received: by 10.82.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr232738bud.1162483738649; - Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:08:58 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:08:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:08:58 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <200611021537.kA2Fb0V15635@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire > Yum does not know about binutils-dev which is a debian package > so Fedora 6 still won't build. I searched for the binutils-dev @@ -5743,35 +3529,12 @@ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/bi rpm -ivh binutils-devel-2.17.50.0.3-6 - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8a-0005aw-Ga - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8Y-0005XA-Ox - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8S-0005Lq-Rz - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8S-0005LW-IQ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:44 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gff8S-0003Hc-AU; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:44 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2G989J031198; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:09:27 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Re: sock_get_string_buf Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:08:32 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire On November 2, 2006 10:37 AM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -5825,37 +3588,12 @@ to use it's own built-in version. You don't need to install binutils so you don't need apt-get or yum. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAt-0001xJ-IM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAr-0001t2-Q6 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAn-0001j4-1H - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAm-0001iT-OL; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:08 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GffAm-0003mA-AV; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:08 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gff9o-0002dn-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:11:08 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre -To: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:11:08 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +To: Tim Daly +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: > Yum does not know about binutils-dev which is a debian package @@ -5868,38 +3606,12 @@ root wrote: Fedora name is 'binutils-devel' (for i386 the full name is 'Fedora/RPMS/binutils-devel-2.17.50.0.3-6.i386.rpm') --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGV-0001oi-7i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:18:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGU-0001nh-4K - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:18:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGR-0001nA-FV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:18:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGR-0001n7-Ab; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:17:59 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1GffGR-00058E-6e; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:17:59 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2GFKEj027171; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:15:36 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Re: sock_get_string_buf +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:15:06 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire On November 2, 2006 11:09 AM I wrote: > ... @@ -5928,49 +3640,11 @@ not cleanup very well. (Sorry, I didn't document at the time.) Note also that Camm committed new changes to gcl-2.6.8pre just this morning that could affect this behaviour. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffIz-00044H-6s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffIx-00043R-Gf - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffIu-00041G-RG - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GffIu-00040z-B9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:32 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GffIt-0005o0-SR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:32 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA2GJwUs026743 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:20:17 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25286 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 16:19:59 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 2 Nov 2006 16:19:59 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA2GAIN15691; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:10:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:10:18 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 02 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows > | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -6000,48 +3674,13 @@ later (and fit on 3 diskettes, collecting mold in my basement). If readline can do completions perhaps we should feed it the symbols in compress.daase. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffhg-0007kQ-Ck - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffhe-0007de-5c - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffhZ-0007Qj-8t - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GffhZ-0007QS-4U - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GffhX-0003dA-1z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:45:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DDC41095; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:45:56 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2GfU9a009201; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:41:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2GfUaA009200; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:41:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:41:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611021610.kA2GAIN15691@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:41:29 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows | > | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -6076,46 +3715,14 @@ standard readline. We should put that on the TODO list. --- gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffjj-0003Vh-VV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffji-0003Sa-EV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffjh-0003RG-Vt - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffjh-0003Qp-Gd - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gffjh-0003vI-Ab - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:13 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2600B411CC; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:48:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2Ghi2e009205; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:43:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2GhiNU009204; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:43:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:43:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <200611021537.kA2Fb0V15635@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:43:44 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > > ... | > > fails on MAC OSX PPC @@ -6146,37 +3753,13 @@ Please use --disable-nls. Until, Axiom officially support internationalization. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffkp-00053U-Db - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffkn-00051i-MS - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffki-0004w9-S9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffki-0004vu-LV; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:16 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gffki-00046F-LX; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:16 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gffkf-0008QP-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:13 -0500 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Camm Maguire Date: 02 Nov 2006 11:49:13 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > On November 2, 2006 10:37 AM Tim Daly wrote: > > @@ -6241,56 +3824,15 @@ Take care, > > You don't need to install binutils so you don't need > apt-get or yum. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfflM-0005cC-RM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:45:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:45:22 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 2, 2006 11:09 AM I wrote: | > ... @@ -6313,91 +3855,26 @@ Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org yes, there are several Makefile issues with GCL, but that is for another time :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffnZ-0000D9-Hb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:52:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffnX-0000Aa-VJ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:52:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffnS-0008TU-95 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:52:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GffnS-0008T5-0x - for list; 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- Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:12:50 +0600 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:12:50 +0600 (NOVT) From: Andrey G. Grozin To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611021610.kA2GAIN15691@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> root Tim Daly writes: +> Tim Daly writes: > | At the time clef, hyperdoc, graphics, etc were written we were using > | X10 (not the house wireless, the pre-X11 windows) on 6MHz PCs. These > | ideas were invented within the group to solve problems, not because @@ -6417,64 +3894,32 @@ In fact, the current Axiom distribution falls under GPL anyway, because gcl is built with several GPL parts (including readline, but not only); this is (correctly!) stated in Camm's .deb package. -Andrey - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfhSP-0000a5-Ni - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfhSO-0000XD-DL - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfhSK-0000R8-I1 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfhSK-0000Qy-DU - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:24 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.80] (helo=mail260.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfhSK-000547-CB - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:24 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail260.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2Ibv7O021969; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:38:13 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:37:42 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Waldek, +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly. clef now compiles correctly. :-) I think this change should go in. -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - On November 2, 2006 4:50 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> > ...=20 +> > ... > > > OTOH this security problem is solved by Unix 98 pty's (in > > > other words Linux /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts), so we can infer > > > that Mac OS X has only legacy pty (so you should use BSD -> > > branch).=20 +> > > branch). > > > > Bill Page asked: -> >=20 +> > > > What do you mean by "BSD branch"? > > ->=20 +> > To change openpty.c.pamphlet like below (untested, I took oportunity > to remove some obfuscation). ->=20 +> --- openpty.c.pamphlet.bb 2006-11-02 11:25:27.000000000 +0100 +++ openpty.c.pamphlet 2006-11-02 11:33:03.243288784 +0100 @@ -6491,13 +3936,13 @@ but variable. -MAC OSX is some variant of BSD. These should probably be merged but we -cannot yet prove that. --<>=3D +-<>= -#if defined(SUN4OS5platform) ||defined(ALPHAplatform) || defined(HP10platform) || defined(LINUXplatform) || = defined(MACOSXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) -@ --<>=3D +-<>= -#if defined(SUNplatform) || defined(HP9platform) || = defined(LINUXplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) @@ -6506,11 +3951,11 @@ defined(LINUXplatform) +Before this is done below we hardcode information about each platform. + \section{License} - <>=3D + <>= /* @@ -104,7 +96,7 @@ #endif -=20 + { -#if defined(SUNplatform) || defined (HP9platform) || = defined(RTplatform) @@ -6519,13 +3964,13 @@ defined(RTplatform) defined(RTplatform) ||defined(AIX370platform) || defined(BSDplatform) || = defined(MACOSXplatform) - int looking =3D 1, i; - int oflag =3D O_RDWR; /* flag for opening the pty */ - =20 + int looking = 1, i; + int oflag = O_RDWR; /* flag for opening the pty */ + @@ -147,7 +139,8 @@ return(fdm); #endif -=20 + -<> +/* MAC OS X 10.3 does not support Unix 98 pty's */ +#if defined(SUN4OS5platform) ||defined(ALPHAplatform) || @@ -6541,42 +3986,17 @@ defined(HP10platform) || defined(LINUXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) +#if defined(SUNplatform) || defined(HP9platform) || = defined(LINUXplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) - static int channelNo =3D 0; - static char group[] =3D "pqrstuvwxyzPQRST"; - static int groupNo =3D 0; - =20 + static int channelNo = 0; + static char group[] = "pqrstuvwxyzPQRST"; + static int groupNo = 0; + > ... - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiBD-0002RN-9S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiB5-0002Kr-On - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiAo-00021f-Nx - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfiAo-00021F-HX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:22 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfiAo-00070L-7o - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:22 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2JNskh000632; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:24:12 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Raymond Manzoni'" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:23:17 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Raymond Manzoni +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Raymond, @@ -6593,43 +4013,38 @@ Everyone else with a PowerPC MAC is encouraged to try it too! Please let me know how/if it works. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > ... > Hi Bill, ->=20 +> > Thank you for the binary! (I am on OS X 10.4.8) > Unfortunately I got : ->=20 +> > $ AXIOMsys -> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl.=20 +> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl. > 8.dylib -> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/=20 +> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/ > AXIOMsys > Reason: image not found > Trace/BPT trap ->=20 +> > So some remaining path problems I fear... ->=20 -> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the=20 -> gcl/axiom =20 +> +> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the +> gcl/axiom > source code if it's available somewhere. > (tomorrow since it's late here...). ->=20 +> > To: Bill Page > Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 +> +> +> > Le 2 nov. 06 =E0 00:04, Page, Bill a =E9crit : ->=20 +> > > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:03 PM Martin Rubey wrote: > >> ... > >> WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! @@ -6648,8 +4063,8 @@ On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > > > > and then setup the AXIOM and PATH variables like this: > > -> > $ export AXIOM=3D/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 -> > $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> > $ export AXIOM=/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 +> > $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH > > > > and start Axiom like this: > > @@ -6665,7 +4080,7 @@ On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > > -------- > > > > The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows -> > environment so it was not possible to compile and test=20 +> > environment so it was not possible to compile and test > Axiom Graphics > > and the Hyperdoc browser. Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not > > have support for the pts virtual terminal interface so it is not @@ -6679,46 +4094,12 @@ On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > > available. > > > > I look forward to some comments from MAC users! :-) -> > ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiNm-0002ik-7K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiNk-0002gN-P3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiNg-0002aA-65 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfiNg-0002Zy-1q - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfiNg-0001UM-0l - for list; 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Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:10:55 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 02 Nov 2006 21:10:55 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | Waldek, | @@ -6886,35 +4168,13 @@ Cc: list If it is tested to work, then please add apporpriate ChangeLog entry to commit to both build-improvements and trunk. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfjnC-0003pe-Bz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:08:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfjnB-0003lb-1d - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:08:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfjn5-0003U8-P4 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:08:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfjn5-0003Ts-Lt - for list; 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Any difference is not supposed to last. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfllz-0004E9-A3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfllw-00049I-58 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gflls-00044I-IT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfllr-00043q-Uo - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:52 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfllr-0003MJ-Po - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:51 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gflk6-00008V-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:13:02 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 00:13:02 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: > -> | > "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> | > Bill Page writes: > | > > | > | Waldek, > | > | @@ -7045,54 +4250,14 @@ AFAICS the differences are small but growing -- the robot forwards Tims patches to /silver but in the last few days nothing went to /trunk. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GflsT-0001wr-46 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GflsR-0001w6-0G - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GflsP-0001vb-By - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GflsP-0001vX-8d - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:37 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GflsO-0004m4-Si - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17063 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 23:18:35 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.091328 secs); 02 Nov 2006 23:18:35 -0000 - list, gcl-devel@gnu.org -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 23:18:35 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:21:23 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54u01hpzee.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04" -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04 Camm Maguire wrote: ->=20 +> > Without any path setting? In any case, I jsut checked, and it just > skips the msgfmt calls now, the libintl et.al. stuff is the same. @@ -7101,9 +4266,9 @@ figured out that my makedefs file still had -lintl, I think we need to change h/powerpc-macosx.defs: Index: h/powerpc-macosx.defs -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +================= RCS file: /sources/gcl/gcl/h/powerpc-macosx.defs,v retrieving revision 1.2.2.3.4.1.10.1 diff -a -u -r1.2.2.3.4.1.10.1 powerpc-macosx.defs @@ -7114,75 +4279,19 @@ diff -a -u -r1.2.2.3.4.1.10.1 powerpc-macosx.defs # Set this to avoid warnings when linking against libncurses. # This is due to the requirements of the two level namespace. --LIBS :=3D `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` -lintl -+LIBS :=3D `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` +-LIBS := `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` -lintl ++LIBS := `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` # Set this for the linker to operate correctly. - MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET =3D 10.2 + MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET = 10.2 now gcl-2.6.8pre builds on my PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4.8 machine. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSn17O8aX8Tqx8vgRAvXmAJ9jUTCEi7hqMs8TCRhM6h1vs5yzbgCfW7Oo -VA0i/x1D5Gd/z/czX44qqqs= -=Oy8Z ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfm2G-0004yR-Cr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfm2F-0004wR-0a - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfm2C-0004sm-6Z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfm2B-0004sc-W3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:44 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfm2B-0007Vr-OX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:44 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17440 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 23:28:42 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.088044 secs); 02 Nov 2006 23:28:42 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 23:28:42 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:31:30 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <200611020728.kA27SXt14977@localhost.localdomain> - <4549F521.7000903@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611021526.kA2FQca15612@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2B92EFBA23E719754F9CE57B" - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2B92EFBA23E719754F9CE57B root wrote: @@ -7191,8 +4300,7 @@ root wrote: > due to my lack of MAC experience. I'm a little confused. I have both fink and XCode installed. AFAIK, fink -requires the XCode gcc compilers and the rest of the toolchain installed.= - +requires the XCode gcc compilers and the rest of the toolchain installed. On the other hand, the current gcl sources require pdflatex to process the documentation, and I have that installed from fink. Which pdflatex @@ -7201,54 +4309,12 @@ are you using? 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The problem @@ -7434,51 +4443,18 @@ diff -ru pp/build-improvements/src/hyper/search.pamphlet build-improvements/src/ END { --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmk5-0003yG-QT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmk4-0003wd-30 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmk2-0003vN-R9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmk2-0003vG-Mu - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmk2-0007SW-Go - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F764F3D5; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:17:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30CWKm019692; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:12:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30CWGe019691; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:12:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:12:31 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:12:31 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > Waldek Hebisch writes: | > -| > | > "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +| > | > Bill Page writes: | > | > | > | > | Waldek, | > | > | @@ -7509,41 +4485,10 @@ understanding was that /silver was created as an intermediate step, preventively, to make sure that we did not lose any data. Is that correct? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfmqX-0003qY-D5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfmqW-0003qK-L9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfmqV-0003q0-7Z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfmqV-0003px-60 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:43 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfmqU-0000Xg-Vl - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:43 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA30NVaA028870 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 19:23:35 -0500 -Received: (qmail 13287 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 00:23:31 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 3 Nov 2006 00:23:31 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA30DgT09782; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 19:13:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 19:13:42 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: camm@axiom-developer.org, Camm Maguire -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Camm Maguire Subject: lastest tests I did a checkout of @@ -7570,43 +4515,11 @@ successfully builds and saves on Fedora 6 successfully builds and saves on RedHat 9 successfully builds and saves on RedHat 7.2 -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmtk-0006En-TL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmtj-0006Ef-RR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmti-0006E9-7B - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmti-0006E6-30 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmti-0001cC-3A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7757240F5A; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:26:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30MWTT020220; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:22:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30MWF0020219; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:22:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:22:32 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: hypertex and documentation search -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:22:32 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -7620,44 +4533,14 @@ The complete correction should invoke Axiom's htsearch with either absolute or relative path, instead of relying on PATH. Could you give that a shot? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmyw-00028E-BA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmyu-00026T-DX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmys-00025C-Gm - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmys-000254-CM - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmys-0002PB-BU - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F123B4F3CC; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:32:20 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30Rq7n020464; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:27:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30RqPU020463; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:27:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:27:52 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: lastest tests -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:27:52 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | I did a checkout of | @@ -7685,44 +4568,14 @@ root Tim Daly writes: We're back to home. Great! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmzk-0003Fg-Ni - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmzj-0003Dz-Nx - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmzj-0003Cl-5K - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmzj-0003CU-2V - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmzi-0002gt-Tr - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B3C40F09; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:33:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30SjTH020468; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:28:47 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30SjGY020467; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:28:45 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:28:45 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: lastest tests -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:28:45 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | I did a checkout of | @@ -7731,49 +4584,11 @@ root Tim Daly writes: I'll commit that patch to gcl-2.8.pre, and update axiom.build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnEQ-0004un-0d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnEN-0004uT-LY - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnEL-0004uH-ME - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfnEL-0004uE-IX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:21 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfnEL-0004Iq-9C - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:21 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20331 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 00:45:19 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.095276 secs); 03 Nov 2006 00:45:19 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 00:45:18 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:48:07 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <5464dyc4j2.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -7793,54 +4608,14 @@ the equivalent on Intel Macs. > Otherwise, the brain-dead default entry-level loading -> option is --disable-statsysbfd --enable-dlopen.=20 +> option is --disable-statsysbfd --enable-dlopen. Can I simply delete the cache sync code and try this? ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSpHOO8aX8Tqx8vgRArSHAJkBEPuF8Lq7g8FiS1UHHDYN+I15UgCeNHIW -tBbzqaN4ShEX0+MdzfU+LdM= -=XcaO ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnJF-0004Dx-9r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnJD-0004CD-SE - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnJC-00048y-Bv - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfnJC-00048o-9F - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:22 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfnJC-00054N-AW - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:22 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfnIK-0007ow-00 - for ; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 01:52:28 +0100 -To: list Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:52:28 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: gcl-2.6.8pre on Debian unstable I just re-tried using gcl-2.6.8 on Debian unstable. Previously @@ -7864,36 +4639,12 @@ x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu The machine was not updated for long time, so this may be due to machine misconfiguration... - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnZC-0003IB-6q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnZA-0003I6-Ue - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnZ9-0003Ht-G8 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfnZ9-0003Hq-AY - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:51 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfnZ9-0007oa-1W - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:51 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfnY6-0008E3-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 02:08:46 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 02:08:46 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > No such luck. Considering that h/powerpc-macosx.h has inline (PowerPC) @@ -7912,35 +4663,11 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: AFAIK that this code is not needed on Intel processors (processor should automatically keep caches in sync). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfnrq-0005NL-9N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfnro-0005Ko-EH - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfnrm-0005K3-Gq - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfnrm-0005Jk-9A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfnrm-0002hX-6S - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:06 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gfnqs-0001hy-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 02:28:10 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and documentation search -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 02:28:10 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: hypertex and documentation search > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -7967,49 +4694,12 @@ We should use '{\$SPAD/bin/htsearch "\stringvalue{pattern}"}' or But there is also a lot of references to 'viewAlone' (this can be solved with extra sed rule). 'spadclient' use wrong path... --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfoR4-00060O-Gb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfoR2-0005vh-EP - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfoQz-0005jy-0t - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfoQy-0005jb-Hd - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:28 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfoQx-0007Uo-Qf - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:28 -0500 -Received: (qmail 23348 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 02:02:25 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.089362 secs); 03 Nov 2006 02:02:25 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 02:02:25 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:05:14 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2" Subject: Turtles all the way down. -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2 - Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp systems, even recursive project dependencies like gcl has it's own bfd, @@ -8045,56 +4735,11 @@ have any expectation of using configure to build axiom, but how far down do we plan to go? I saw Gaby is seriously considering integrating gcl and gcc. - ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSqPhO8aX8Tqx8vgRAtmsAKCt+VPSgRb4Qy6Fje3UlD8lh5eLtQCfS2JL -fYDVNhgJmJnTpM7iSo4p1hU= -=KXEs ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfojO-0006CF-AQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfojM-00069t-EW - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfojJ-00067q-FU - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfojJ-00067d-5E - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:25 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfojI-00029G-UV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:25 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA32NXex004430; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:23:52 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch, - "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:23:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gaby and Waldek, @@ -8223,45 +4868,13 @@ On October 27, 2006 3:58 PM Bill Page wrote: > Right. Gold. > ... - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfoyu-0003Qb-JP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfoyt-0003PL-EC - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfoyr-0003N0-Vp - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfoyr-0003Mn-El - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:29 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfoyr-00056I-EO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:29 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8F34F3B0; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:40:24 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA32ZuHL022129; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:35:59 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA32ZuK9022128; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:35:56 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 03:35:56 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch | of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp @@ -8326,47 +4939,11 @@ However, GCL's configure.in issue is easily solved though. What specifically did you want to do with malloc/malloc.h? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp10-0000JV-Uo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp0z-0000El-G5 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp0x-00009L-LQ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfp0x-00008o-GE - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:39 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfp0x-0005XT-0z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:39 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24877 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 02:39:37 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.097093 secs); 03 Nov 2006 02:39:37 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 02:39:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:42:26 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch= @@ -8385,62 +4962,13 @@ le. :-) ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSqyZO8aX8Tqx8vgRAlYdAJ944WnVC1lBiiBE1J6tt2CSAtTd6ACgpW0Z -CyRIMZqO9i545SFRClUVgBo= -=VItS ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp8S-0001eC-J4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp8R-0001Zz-IR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp8Q-0001W2-KD - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfp8Q-0001Vl-Df - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfp8Q-0006gu-DV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AB740FBF; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:50:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA32jiXI022231; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:45:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA32jitg022230; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:45:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 03 Nov 2006 03:45:43 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -8497,49 +5025,11 @@ principle- to merge existing branches to whatever becomes The trunk. This clarifiers the terminology for me. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpFT-0006qq-41 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpFQ-0006kv-T3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpFP-0006fc-8I - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfpFO-0006em-F7 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:34 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfpFO-00084L-Bi - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:34 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25494 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 02:54:32 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.094934 secs); 03 Nov 2006 02:54:32 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 02:54:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:57:21 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: configure changes for intel mac - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -8549,9 +5039,9 @@ Add i386-macosx to powerpc-macosx test for malloc/malloc.h: $ cvs diff -Nau configure.in Index: configure.in -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +================= RCS file: /sources/gcl/gcl/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 diff -a -u -r1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 configure.in @@ -8562,8 +5052,8 @@ diff -a -u -r1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 configure.in fi fi --if test "$use" =3D "powerpc-macosx" ; then -+if test "$use" =3D "powerpc-macosx" -o "$use" =3D "i386-macosx" ; then +-if test "$use" = "powerpc-macosx" ; then ++if test "$use" = "powerpc-macosx" -o "$use" = "i386-macosx" ; then AC_CHECK_HEADER(malloc/malloc.h,[AC_DEFINE([HAVE_MALLOC_MALLOC_H])], [AC_CHECK_HEADER(objc/malloc.h,[AC_DEFINE([HAVE_OBJC_MALLOC_H])], [AC_MSG_ERROR([need malloc.h on macosx])])]) @@ -8571,108 +5061,65 @@ diff -a -u -r1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 configure.in The build still won't work, but I've made some progress. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSrAYO8aX8Tqx8vgRAufaAKCDbMS/S6ciswNa6FqyDPOCp4UhZgCggBA2 -5raThlxraC0eksRNe6+B4so= -=y0qG ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpMk-0002id-KX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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On November 2, 2006 2:30 PM Tim Daly wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > chdir /tmp/powerpc-apple-darwin6 -> export AXIOM=3D`pwd` +> export AXIOM=`pwd` > cd bin > ./AXIOMsys ->=20 +> > starts ok, loads databases, but typing 1 at the axiom prompt hangs. ->=20 +> Very odd. :-( On November 2, 2006 2:36 PM Tim Daly wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > chdir /tmp/powerpc-apple-darwin6 -> export AXIOM=3D`pwd` +> export AXIOM=`pwd` > cd bin > ./AXIOMsys ->=20 +> > -> )set mes auto on ->=20 +> > Error: The variable BLOCK is unbound > >> :bt -> #0 APPLY (loc0=3D# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=3D:unbound-variable...} [ihs=3D7] -> #1 APPLY (loc0=3D# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=3D:unbound-variable...} [ihs=3D6] +> #0 APPLY (loc0=# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=:unbound-variable...} [ihs=7] +> #1 APPLY (loc0=# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=:unbound-variable...} [ihs=6] > Error: NIL is an illegal ihs index ->=20 +> > Error signalled by SYSTEM::DBL-BACKTRACE -> Backtrace: system:univeral-error-handler > system::break-call=20 -> > system::dbl-backtrace -> system:ihs-fun > lambda >=20 +> Backtrace: system:univeral-error-handler > system::break-call +> > system::dbl-backtrace -> system:ihs-fun > lambda > > lambda-closure > block > apply > APPLY ->=20 +> This looks like a Lisp problem, but on the SourceForge compile farm MAC OSX server where I compiled this binary I get: @@ -8686,8 +5133,8 @@ ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export `pwd`/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 bash: export: = `/home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8': not a valid identifier -ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export AXIOM=3D`pwd`/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 -ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export AXIOM=`pwd`/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 +ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH ppc-osx3:~/osx $ AXIOMsys GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Nov 1 2006 17:41:53 @@ -8735,25 +5182,25 @@ ppc-osx3:~/osx $ exit -------- On November 2, 2006 3:08 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > Please download the new binary for AXIOMsys on MAC OSX PowerPC from: -> >=20 +> > > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/AXIOMsys-ppc-20061102.tgz ->=20 +> > Testing on PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4.8: ->=20 -> $ export AXIOM=3D/tmp/axiom/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 -> $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> +> $ export AXIOM=/tmp/axiom/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 +> $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH > $ AXIOMsys > GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Nov 1 2006 17:41:53 > Source License: LGPL(gcl,gmp), GPL(unexec,bfd,xgcl) > Binary License: GPL due to GPL'ed components: (BFD UNEXEC) -> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a=20 +> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a > compatible license > Dedicated to the memory of W. Schelter ->=20 +> > Use (help) to get some basic information on how to use GCL. > Temporary directory for compiler files set to /tmp/ > AXIOM Computer Algebra System @@ -8764,13 +5211,13 @@ On November 2, 2006 3:08 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: > Issue )summary for a summary of useful system commands. > Issue )quit to leave AXIOM and return to shell. > -------------------------------------------------------------- ->=20 +> > Re-reading compress.daase Re-reading interp.daase > Re-reading operation.daase > Re-reading category.daase > Re-reading browse.daase > Illegal instruction ->=20 +> I would like to be able to explain the differences between Tim Daly's results above and this one. Could you both please provide @@ -8779,17 +5226,17 @@ system? What cpu? What version of OSX? On November 2, 2006 4:37 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I got this time on my OSX 10.4.8 PPC : ->=20 +> > $ AXIOMsys > GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Nov 1 2006 17:41:53 > Source License: LGPL(gcl,gmp), GPL(unexec,bfd,xgcl) > Binary License: GPL due to GPL'ed components: (BFD UNEXEC) -> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a=20 +> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a > compatible license > Dedicated to the memory of W. Schelter ->=20 +> > Use (help) to get some basic information on how to use GCL. > Temporary directory for compiler files set to /tmp/ > AXIOM Computer Algebra System @@ -8813,15 +5260,15 @@ Can you give me any more specific information about the cpu? Can you suggest some command that I can give to the SourceForge compile farm OSX system that I am using that will give equivalent information for comparison? -=20 + > =09 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > I tried to launch it with gdb (my first use of gdb...) and got : > (gdb) run > ... > Re-reading browse.daase ->=20 -> Program received signal EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION, Illegal instruction/=20 +> +> Program received signal EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION, Illegal instruction/ > operand. > 0x00de9c44 in socket_mask () > (gdb) up @@ -8833,35 +5280,35 @@ information for comparison? If we compile gcl with the .configure option --enable-debug, then we can get a more detailed traceback that Camm Maguire (gcl developer) should be able to use to help diagnose the problem. -=20 ->=20 + +> > -------------------------------------------------------------- -> The CrashReporter (Library/Logs/AXIOMsys.crash.log=20 +> The CrashReporter (Library/Logs/AXIOMsys.crash.log > file) reported : ->=20 +> > Host Name: Raym > Date/Time: 2006-11-02 21:54:40.899 +0100 > OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L127) > Report Version: 4 ->=20 +> > Command: AXIOMsys > Path: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/AXIOMsys > Parent: bash [244] ->=20 +> > Version: ??? (???) ->=20 +> > PID: 247 > Thread: 0 ->=20 +> > Exception: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (0x0002) > Code[0]: 0x00000002 > Code[1]: 0x00de9c44 -> ...=20 ->=20 -> Looks as if it tried to execute the instruction=20 -> '0x00000002' called =20 +> ... +> +> Looks as if it tried to execute the instruction +> '0x00000002' called > by 0x00de9c44 (socket_mask?)... not too good... ->=20 +> > Ready for more tests, At this point I am not sure exactly what to do. @@ -8885,53 +5332,11 @@ recommend pulling the most recent sources from the build- improvements branch on SourceForge. 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On November 2, 2006 10:25 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > The machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8. ->=20 +> > neverblows:~/src/working humberto$ arch > ppc > neverblows:~/src/working humberto$ uname -a @@ -9123,13 +5429,13 @@ On November 2, 2006 10:25 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > ProductVersion: 10.4.8 > BuildVersion: 8L127 > neverblows:~/src/working humberto$ system_profiler -detailLevel mini ->=20 +> > hangs, but prints out a bunch of information including: ->=20 +> > Hardware: ->=20 +> > Hardware Overview: ->=20 +> > Machine Name: Power Mac G5 > Machine Model: PowerMac7,3 > CPU Type: PowerPC G5 (3.0) @@ -9139,15 +5445,15 @@ On November 2, 2006 10:25 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Memory: 4 GB > Bus Speed: 1.25 GHz > Boot ROM Version: 5.1.8f7 ->=20 +> ----------------- SourceForge Compile Farm MAC OSX 10.2 Server: -=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D PuTTY log 2006.11.02 = +=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2006.11.02 = 22:39:52 -=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D +=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= system_profiler -detailLevel mini ppc-osx3:~/osx $ sw_versuname -aarchexitarch ppc @@ -9168,18 +5474,18 @@ ppc-osx3:~/osx $ sw_versuname -aarchsystem_profiler -detailLevel mini Overview: Software Overview: - =20 + System version: Mac OS X Server 10.2.8 (6R73) [ Mac OS X 10.2.8 = (6R73) ] Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 6.8: Wed Sep 10 15:20:55 PDT -2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.49.obj~2/RELEASE_PPC =20 - Boot volume:=20 +2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.49.obj~2/RELEASE_PPC + Boot volume: User name: Bill Page (billpage) - =20 + Hardware Overview: - =20 - Machine model: RackMac1,2 (version =3D 3.3) + + Machine model: RackMac1,2 (version = 3.3) Number of processors: 2 Bus speed: 167 MHz Machine speed: 1.333 Ghz @@ -9188,170 +5494,143 @@ Overview: Customer serial number: XB31000F-N9C L3 cache size: 2MB (times 2) Sales order number: Not available - =20 + Memory Overview: - =20 + DIMM0/J21: 512 MB DDR SDRAM DIMM1/J22: DIMM2/J23: DIMM3/J20: - =20 + Network Overview: - =20 + Built-in: - =20 + Ethernet address: 00.03.93.CC.38.84 Flags: 0x8863 IP: 10.8.5.44 Broadcast: 10.8.255.255 Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0 - =20 + : - =20 + Ethernet address: 00.03.93.F4.0D.72 Flags: 0x8863 - =20 + Built-in: - =20 + Ethernet address: 00.0A.27.CC.38.84 Flags: 0x8863 - =20 - =20 + + Devices: PCI/AGP: - =20 + pci106b,9: - =20 + Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x000016a7 Revision ID: 0x00000002 Vendor ID: 0x000014e4 - =20 + ATY,BlueStar: - =20 + Model: ATY,RV100 Type: display Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x00005159 Revision ID: 0x00000000 Vendor ID: 0x00001002 - =20 + AppleKiwi: - =20 + Type: pci-ide Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x00006269 Revision ID: 0x00000003 Vendor ID: 0x0000105a - =20 + AppleKiwi: - =20 + Type: pci-ide Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x00006269 Revision ID: 0x00000003 Vendor ID: 0x0000105a - =20 + IDE (ATA-4) Bus: - =20 + CD-ROM: - =20 - Model: QSI CD-ROM TCR-241 =20 - Revision: WL09 =20 - Serial Number: =20 + + Model: QSI CD-ROM TCR-241 + Revision: WL09 + Serial Number: Device Type: ATAPI - =20 + USB 1.1 Bus: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 32773 ($8005) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Apple Computer, Inc. - =20 + Hub in Apple Extended USB Keyboard: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 4099 ($1003) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Mitsumi Electric - =20 + Apple Extended USB Keyboard: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 250 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 523 ($20b) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Mitsumi Electric - =20 + Apple Optical USB Mouse: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Low Speed Product ID: 772 ($304) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Mitsumi Electric - =20 + USB 1.1 Bus: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 32773 ($8005) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Apple Computer, Inc. - =20 + FireWire Bus: - =20 + BSD Name: en2 - =20 + FireWire Device: - =20 + Speed: 400 Mb/sec Speed - =20 + Modem Information: - =20 + Modem Device: - =20 + Modem: (V.90) Driver: (v1.2.3) - Country:=20 + Country: Modem In Use By: sshd, bash, system_profiler, lsof - =20 -=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqIK-0000pF-Nf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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You might also need the openpty patch provided earlier today by Waldek Hebisch. -Good Luck! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqYn-0005TD-M1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqYl-0005QC-RO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqYj-0005Nj-So - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfqYj-0005Nb-K3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:37 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfqYj-00054P-DR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:37 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4550040F5A; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:21:34 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA34H7Kg023522; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:17:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA34H74t023521; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:17:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 05:17:07 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -9467,43 +5710,11 @@ Cc: list I believe that was a dependency thinko that was fixed by a patch from Waldek. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqct-0005PE-3K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqcr-0005LR-W6 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqco-0005Aw-K1 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfqco-0005AR-DT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfqcc-0005Tw-5S - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:42 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA34PErp020880 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:25:23 -0500 -Received: (qmail 11740 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 04:25:15 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 3 Nov 2006 04:25:15 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA34FNI09921; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:15:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:15:23 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:05:14 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. -Cc: list > Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch > of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp @@ -9598,45 +5809,11 @@ and work "bottom up", insisting that the tools should shape the ideas. The results lie somewhere in between. Running code tends to determine the actual result. - -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqdn-0008HC-H7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqdm-0008B3-4F - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqdk-00084T-BT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfqdk-00084G-6x - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:48 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfqdk-0005gM-4W - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA34QUaC017462 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:26:38 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5507 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 04:26:30 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 3 Nov 2006 04:26:30 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA34Gh009929; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:16:43 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:16:43 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list Bill, @@ -9649,43 +5826,11 @@ Bill, I believe this process is complete. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqoM-0007hX-6p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqoJ-0007er-Tp - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqoI-0007dC-J6 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfqoI-0007d9-Ce - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfqoI-0007OI-9k - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:42 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA34baCF021929 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:37:36 -0500 -Received: (qmail 865 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 04:37:36 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 3 Nov 2006 04:37:36 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA34Rng09942; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:27:49 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:27:49 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list > I would like to be able to explain the differences between Tim > Daly's results above and this one. Could you both please provide @@ -9707,45 +5852,13 @@ Darwin dalys-Computer.local 8.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.56.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfrGg-0004R9-8u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:07:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfrGe-0004Lp-K8 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:07:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfrGd-0004GY-Iv - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:06:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfrGd-0004FU-Az - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:06:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfrGc-0003vl-VH - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:06:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AA24F3B8; 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So the questions are: axiom--silver--1 (if both versions are identical, then the robot could easily identify a duplicate). - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzED-0008NA-5K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:37:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzEB-0008LC-Id - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzE6-0008E2-96 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzE5-0008Dl-Te - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:54 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzE5-0004nt-E6 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:53 -0500 -Received: (qmail 15823 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 13:33:48 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.176332 secs); 03 Nov 2006 13:33:48 -0000 - list, Gabriel Dos Reis -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 13:33:48 -0000 +\start Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:36:30 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160 Bill Page wrote: @@ -9953,9 +5955,9 @@ Bill Page wrote: >> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/ \ >> branches/build-improvements axiom.build-improvements >> ->=20 +> > Yes. ->=20 +> Can't svn co the source, I've tried several times from a clean slate and get: @@ -10000,62 +6002,11 @@ to p': No such file or directory - ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFS0XoO8aX8Tqx8vgRAsquAJwPoP1xs7bInT5M7IROc2m/IoEhdACglByv -4MFcxJpzmppYe2316FhdvGM= -=4NjY ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzYv-0003LK-Ob - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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I seem to remember that Waldek proposed to remove one of them. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzxQ-0004VA-FY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzxO-0004So-VM - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzxK-0004G7-3m - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzxJ-0004Fe-TJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzxJ-0006We-QN - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:38 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gfzw4-0002Gp-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:22:20 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:22:20 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +> Humberto Zuazaga writes: > | svn: In directory > | 'axiom.build-improvements/axiom/trunk/axiom/src/hyper/pages' > | svn: Can't copy @@ -10254,46 +6127,13 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Not yet. In a message that I sent few minutes ago I proposed to rename 'poly.ht' to 'polys.ht' and 'poly.pht' to 'polys.pht'. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzR-0000QZ-14 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzO-0000MP-7D - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzH-00008K-5h - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzzG-00007D-Ok - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzzG-0006sR-Ni - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0644641096; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:25:36 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3EL7fI031054; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:21:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3EL7He031053; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:21:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:21:07 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | Tim, | @@ -10314,87 +6154,23 @@ Cc: list the .arch-ids subdirectories should also disappear from silver --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzS-0000UB-A5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzQ-0000PX-5o - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzJ-0000Cf-Go - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzzI-0000CD-TJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzzI-0006sZ-M8 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:41 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA3EPI5L026810 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:25:22 -0500 -Received: (qmail 2165 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 14:25:20 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 3 Nov 2006 14:25:20 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA3EFad10556; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:15:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:15:36 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list > How about the \r problem? still looking into it. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg03X-0001BF-EJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:30:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg03V-00017B-RY - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:30:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg03U-000133-1A - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:30:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg03S-00011F-Pd - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:29:58 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg03S-0007UH-No - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:29:58 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090774F40D; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:29:48 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3EPRdW031058; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:25:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3EPR9q031057; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:25:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:25:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <200611031348.kA3DmHX10521@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:25:27 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > 1) removal of 'zips/tla-1.1.tar.gz'. | @@ -10402,44 +6178,13 @@ root Tim Daly writes: done on silver. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg06K-0006nu-RU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg06I-0006lD-Br - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg06G-0006io-OC - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg06G-0006iI-GM - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:52 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg06G-00082W-AN - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:52 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792574F3F0; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:32:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3ESL9u031297; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:28:23 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3ESL0w031296; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:28:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:28:20 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -10464,49 +6209,14 @@ This particular issue has nothing to do with SVN on SF. It is a brain-damaged filesystem issue. Ben from Google explained the problem a couple of days ago. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0EV-00005g-4K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0EU-0008W9-2z - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0EP-0008Og-Bo - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0EP-0008OL-6S - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:17 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0EO-000156-Og - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:17 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20011 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 14:38:14 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 4.522656 secs); 03 Nov 2006 14:38:14 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 14:38:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:40:55 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0" - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0 Bill Page wrote: ->=20 +> > Welcome to SVN on SourceForge ... ;) No, that's what I get for trying to develop on Mac OS X, a.k.a, the @@ -10519,56 +6229,11 @@ http://page.axiom-developer.org/repository/axiom-darcs/ now, and if that fails, I'll just pull the sources on a linux box and rsync them over to the mac. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFS1T/O8aX8Tqx8vgRAm4jAJ92EEisOoWSs8RScDpl4ZDA+Cod8ACfVtjF -dX35xm5aeX1siYY+3rJz0KU= -=wWbA ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0H5-0005M4-JJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:44:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0H2-0005F5-Aw - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:44:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Gx-0004z2-Ft - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:43:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0Gx-0004yf-43 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:43:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0Gw-0001et-VK - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:43:55 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA3Ehi32028739 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:43:44 +0100 +\start Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:45:46 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list On 11/03/2006 12:23 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -10615,44 +6280,11 @@ If we all agreed to send patches to Tim for review, then I would say no. Silver should always be the same on axiom--silver--1, SF-/silver Google/trunk (or is it also Google/silver?). -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Rq-0001mK-Uf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Ro-0001i0-Lx - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Rk-0001aa-Vl - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0Rk-0001Zy-Nk - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:04 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0Rk-0003wX-FO - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:04 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA3Espiw018610 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:54:51 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20699 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 14:54:52 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 3 Nov 2006 14:54:52 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA3Ej8N10603; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:45:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:45:08 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 03 Nov 2006 15:28:20 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list > axiom.build-improvements/axiom/trunk/axiom/src/hyper/pages/HTX > FormatPage5.ht @@ -10676,45 +6308,13 @@ delete changes to fix the host, and restart the process from scratch. svn cleanup does nothing (or at least it doesn't clean up). the whole dance cost me 8 hours. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0jj-0000If-03 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0jh-0000FT-5o - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0jb-00007M-TJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0jb-00007B-Ou - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0jb-0007yX-Jm - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F016741094; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:13:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3F90GJ031944; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:09:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3F904O031943; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:09:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:09:00 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 3, 2006 9:13 AM Gaby wrote: | > | @@ -10764,43 +6364,11 @@ Bill, forget about SVN for a moment. How to you plan to keep POLY.pht and poly.pht as separate files in the same directory using a case preserving and case insensitive filesystem? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Mo-0002Gs-Sn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:54:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Mm-0002Fx-83 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:54:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Mh-0002Dc-7L - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:53:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg1Mh-0002DZ-3i - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:53:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg1Mh-0008Hd-37 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:53:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563754F3D5; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:53:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3FnNFS000417; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:49:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3FnN3o000416; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:49:23 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:49:22 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <454B561A.9020503@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:49:22 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -10867,47 +6435,16 @@ As I have stated publically, I'm not a big fan of "forks". But at this very point I'm considering very seriously about forking and be done with it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Oc-00039A-SP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Oa-00038T-L4 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1OZ-000388-7T - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg1OZ-000385-4L - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg1OY-0000Yc-SQ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F764105F; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:55:48 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3FpJ4m000571; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:51:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3FpJ9W000570; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:51:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:51:19 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:51:19 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -| > Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +| > Humberto Zuazaga writes: | > | svn: In directory | > | 'axiom.build-improvements/axiom/trunk/axiom/src/hyper/pages' | > | svn: Can't copy @@ -10928,46 +6465,13 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Please go ahead and commit to build-improvements. Add an explanation (in the pamphlets) about the renaming. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1SW-0006xP-A9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1SV-0006vh-Cv - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1ST-0006s1-2r - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg1SS-0006rn-VL - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:53 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg1SS-0001Ef-Uq - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8284F403; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:59:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3FtLSo000586; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:55:23 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3FtLXQ000585; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:55:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:55:21 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -10979,33 +6483,11 @@ Cc: list they just corrupt the source tree :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4X6-00047Q-HU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4X5-00046t-5M - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4X1-00046I-FH - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4X1-00046F-CK - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:47 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4X1-0004GN-6l - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:47 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg4Vv-0004Q4-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:15:39 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:15:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11042,41 +6524,9 @@ is a screen dump of a graphic window containig a parabola. I can not really see 'SEGBIND.ps' because it triggers Postscript stack error in ghostscript (like many other files in 'src/doc/ps' :(. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4bP-0005yJ-UY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4bN-0005vl-Tw - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4bI-0005pH-Ub - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4bI-0005p2-NX - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:12 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4bI-00056w-BY - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:12 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1133 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 19:18:09 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.032208 secs); 03 Nov 2006 19:18:09 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 19:18:09 -0000 +\start Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:22:54 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! @@ -11112,48 +6562,13 @@ Success! darcs or the Mac mangled the permissions on configure and config/mkinstalldirs, the rest went smoothly. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4ef-0000h1-S1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4ee-0000e8-Dz - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4eY-0000VJ-Qs - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4eY-0000V2-MH - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:34 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4eY-0005ac-E1 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B2B40F6C; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:24:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3JK2v9004497; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:20:04 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3JK2Ec004496; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:20:02 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 17:34:22 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -11233,42 +6648,11 @@ However, I see practical issue here: as efficient. I consider that an extraodinary waste of time and resources. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4id-0005pD-0f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4ib-0005nU-DW - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4iZ-0005l2-1P - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4iY-0005ku-Ql - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:42 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4iY-000679-KV - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:42 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B35640E27; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:28:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3JOAQ8004513; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:24:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3JOAol004512; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:24:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 20:24:10 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 20:24:10 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11303,33 +6687,12 @@ I'll come back to you later. Thanks for the detective work. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5P2-0005HI-Or - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5P0-0005Cf-U5 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5Oz-0005AB-VA - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg5Oz-0005A0-O7 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg5Oz-0006Ev-86 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:33 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg5NT-0000Dx-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:10:59 +0100 -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:10:59 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > I would like to see the final patch, e.g. the things that would be @@ -11376,45 +6739,12 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/interp/sockio.lisp.pamphlet build-improvement (defentry sock_get_float (int) (double "sock_get_float")) (defentry sock_send_float (int double) (int "sock_send_float")) - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5d1-0004VH-6p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5cz-0004VB-Lb - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5cy-0004Uz-QQ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg5cy-0004Uw-No - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg5cy-0008CV-L5 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:00 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BEF40F6A; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:26:58 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3KMPiR006362; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:22:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3KMP6m006361; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:22:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 03 Nov 2006 21:22:24 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 21:22:24 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11426,40 +6756,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: OK for build-improvements. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5nz-00060m-At - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5nx-0005xB-Jf - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5nw-0005v4-Lz - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg5nw-0005ul-IK - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:20 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg5nw-0002Pv-3R - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:20 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA3Kbv32006253 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:37:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:39:59 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list On 11/03/2006 05:22 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On November 3, 2006 10:49 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -11521,39 +6822,11 @@ Thank you, Bill. I appreciate all your work. I was just a bit puzzled. ... and should be condidered as read-only except for Bill's Tailor-program. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Aw-0006Vt-F9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6At-0006SB-51 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6As-0006RA-Bp - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg6As-0006R1-7h - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:02 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg6Ar-0005i4-E1 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:01 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA3L1c32006828 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:01:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:03:40 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list > I'm very happy to see Tim is making changes more visible now, than waiting > for ages before seeing light. The main reason I originally volunteered to @@ -11618,33 +6891,11 @@ problem as long as it is clearly described which directory contains what. I share your efficiency considerations, though. But up to now, it wasn't a big problem. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6HF-0005kK-3u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6HD-0005j0-2H - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6H7-0005dd-Si - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg6H7-0005dM-MD - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:29 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg6H7-0006ju-8T - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:29 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg6G9-0004H1-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:07:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -To: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:07:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements root wrote: > > > Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that @@ -11692,46 +6943,11 @@ SCM-s or alternatively some other "higher level SCM" may use GIT as a backend. ATM the main strong point of GIT is its packing algoritm, but alone that is too little to win. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Z8-0005OC-PR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Z6-0005Nc-Hr - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Z5-0005NI-Hh - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg6Z5-0005NF-EE - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg6Z5-0001zo-62 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB99E40FEC; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:27:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3LMU61008239; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:22:33 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3LMUNC008238; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:22:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 03 Nov 2006 22:22:30 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 22:22:30 +0100 -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -11812,35 +7028,11 @@ to see those changes spread as quickly as possible. Also, you should get in the habit of crediting developers responsabilities -- they should commit themselves. There are lots of things you learn that way :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg7Hz-0006y6-J6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg7Hy-0006vu-3r - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg7Hx-0006um-9s - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg7Hx-0006uW-49 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:25 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg7Hw-000130-LY - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:25 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-71-81.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-71-81.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.186.81]) - by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 118521C00095; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:13:22 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: hypertex and uses info -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:13:27 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: hypertex and uses info Waldek, @@ -12037,57 +7229,33 @@ build-improvements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet #+:AKCL (if (library-file filearg) --- - Waldek Hebisch - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg80k-0004Gd-GV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg80h-0004G8-RT - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg80g-0004Fo-07 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg80f-0004Fk-Tp - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg7ea-0004BI-TB - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:36:49 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg7dg-0001nu-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:35:52 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:35:52 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Axiom-Developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Waldek, ->=20 -> > All versions of hypertex that I used crashed (or maybe showed=20 -> > nothing)=20 +> +> > All versions of hypertex that I used crashed (or maybe showed +> > nothing) > > when I clicked "Uses" or "Dependants" field in a description of a const= ructor. ->=20 +> > > AFAICS recent versions of Axiom have two problems here: ->=20 +> > > 1) databases which contain corresponding information (USERS.DAASE > > and DEPENDENTS.DAASE) were not installed > > 2) infamous 'probe-file' problem ->=20 +> > > The patch below correct both problems. It also fixes the > > "Cannot rename the file erlib to NRLIB" problem. I also added > > sensible dependency in database rule, so that all databses > > are re-made when one get out of date. And 'RDEFIOSTREAM' is > > now called in error-checking mode (old code happily passed > > bad pathnames and supressed error checking). ->=20 +> > I'm in the process of applying these patches. Do you know a situation whe= re > readLibPathFast is used on a non existent file ? Since you prefer to remo= @@ -12110,79 +7278,21 @@ BTW 3: IMHO the approach check first and then go on without checking has fundamental problems, Unix way "try and check if OK" works much better. ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8Bn-0001Ig-TU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8Bl-0001Hq-TE - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8Bj-0001EQ-7J - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg8Bi-0001EJ-WD - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:03 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg8Bi-0002Jw-JX - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:02 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA3NAovr001764 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:10:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14049 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 23:10:50 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gregory Vanuxem; 3 Nov 2006 23:10:50 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA3N10810909; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:01:00 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:01:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:35:52 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -Cc: list Based on your extensive work would you consider being the person who maintains axiom--silver--1? That would settle one of the items raised by Gaby. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8nt-0000jY-6L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8ns-0000gz-32 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8nq-0000co-Fh - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg8nq-0000cN-6o - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg8nq-0007I0-6S - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg8mv-0005uo-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:49:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: Maintainers -To: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:49:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Maintainers root wrote: > Based on your extensive work would you consider being the @@ -12197,45 +7307,11 @@ Yes, however some clarificatinons are needed: 2) "one of persons who maintain ..." -- IIUC Gaby wants to avoid single point of failure (me too). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg9NQ-0004yf-5A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg9NO-0004yR-Oo - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg9NN-0004y6-Vq - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg9NN-0004y3-J9 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:09 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg9NN-0004hH-GS - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:09 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA40Qu8B013808 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:26:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12413 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 00:26:56 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 00:26:56 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA40H6j10938; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:17:06 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:17:06 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:49:29 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: Maintainers -Cc: list > > Based on your extensive work would you consider being the > > person who maintains axiom--silver--1? That would settle @@ -12309,36 +7385,11 @@ of contention with people at times. Think carefully about it and let me know. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgCOf-0008LY-Sj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgCOe-0008IH-Gu - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgCOc-0008E1-Qs - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgCOc-0008Dm-NJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgCOc-00054K-HA - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:38 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA43e9bt002161; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:40:19 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga'" -Subject: RE: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:39:49 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: RE: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! On November 3, 2006 2:23 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: > @@ -12402,49 +7453,13 @@ Thanks for giving this a try. As far as I know, you are only the 2nd person to ever report successfully running Axiom on a MAC! :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgDXo-0000Np-VB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgDXn-0000Ml-0G - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgDXl-0000Le-8p - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgDXl-0000LV-5N - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgDXl-0006qx-5e - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:09 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A5940F67; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:54:05 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA44nYmu014633; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:49:37 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA44nYqt014632; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -12480,37 +7495,11 @@ But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! Yes, indeed. And we should erase silver. . --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEB8-0007Z2-OA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEB6-0007YR-Qw - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEB6-0007YF-7v - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEB6-0007YC-5b - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.29] (helo=mail209.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEB6-0003su-1p - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail209.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA45YN5r015517; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:34:37 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch, - "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:34:00 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch, +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On November 3, 2006 2:16 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -12846,50 +7835,11 @@ ys.xbm zetak.bitmap zk.bitmap -------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEJO-0000YZ-4Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEJM-0000Uu-GM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEJI-0000Ng-VC - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEJI-0000NR-RK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEJI-0006Tm-SX - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:17 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA45gu4b031074 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:43:05 -0500 -Received: (qmail 18316 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 05:42:57 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 05:42:57 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA45X9c11013; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:33:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:33:09 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -12924,47 +7874,11 @@ there are a lot of "other tasks" besides checking in changes that need to be performed in order to keep a silver version. who would have the responsibility to do this? -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEKx-0004HR-QI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEKw-0004EK-C2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEKu-00049R-KE - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEKu-000493-A6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:56 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEKu-0006eO-9q - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:56 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA45inJQ031449 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:44:49 -0500 -Received: (qmail 21217 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 05:44:50 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 05:44:50 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA45Z2M11017; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:35:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:35:02 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! @@ -12978,44 +7892,13 @@ The check-in needs to be reviewed after it is committed by the author to make sure their changes are all correctly applied and by the silver maintainer to make sure that nothing broke. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMP-000771-Fg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMN-00073g-Fi - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEML-00070P-SM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEML-00070A-OB - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEML-0006tM-OL - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:25 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD644F3BF; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:46:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA45fqSi015183; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:41:54 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA45fqlh015182; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:41:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 04 Nov 2006 06:41:52 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 3, 2006 2:16 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > @@ -13092,45 +7975,11 @@ Before deletion, we have to determine that they are not referenced at runtime through name generation on the fly. Do you know whether that can ever happen? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMy-0007Y6-Mu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMw-0007Xn-LN - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMu-0007Xa-TV - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEMu-0007XX-Q2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:00 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEMu-0006wQ-Na - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:00 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA45kfwC010560 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:46:49 -0500 -Received: (qmail 4659 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 05:46:42 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 05:46:42 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA45asu11021; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:36:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:36:54 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | Just because it works does not make it right for the project. > @@ -13138,38 +7987,11 @@ Cc: list "Sometimes humor is the only possible solution" -- Tim Daly -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEf6-0003CF-Cf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEf4-00038w-3Z - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEf3-00037K-2J - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEf2-00036n-QM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:44 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEf2-0001Wy-9A - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:44 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA465OWF027027; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:05:34 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:05:04 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:05:04 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 3, 2006 11:34 AM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -13249,39 +8071,11 @@ with knowledge of how Axiom works. It seems that we might have to do some extraordinary things in order to retain all of these "eggs" in one basket... :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEtS-0004DQ-2d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEtQ-0004Aj-5Y - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEtO-00046Y-Eu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEtO-00046G-5J - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:34 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEtO-00038w-3d - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:34 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA46K7sU012274; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:20:22 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:19:44 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:19:44 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 4, 2006 12:42 AM Gaby wrote: >... @@ -13332,50 +8126,13 @@ more attention on this part of the system. If problems of missing files occur, it should be difficult to document which of the presumed "unused" files is actually referenced dynamically (if any). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF3u-0008Ma-Ax - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF3s-0008K2-IF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF3q-0008JY-Vj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgF3q-0008JS-Qm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgF3q-0007xu-NZ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC9A4F3D1; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:31:17 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46QnDm015605; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:26:51 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46Qn8c015589; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. | > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -13413,47 +8170,13 @@ point of failure. Please be more specific, so that I can offer meaningful answer. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF92-0002D8-Fv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF8z-00029z-Pr - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF8y-00028G-Od - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgF8y-000281-J9 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgF8y-0001fl-Iw - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9467A4F3D0; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:36:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46W7MG015636; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:32:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46W76P015635; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040535.kA45Z2M11017@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! | @@ -13478,47 +8201,13 @@ know of this changes only after a day, when possibly other changes have been applied too. Remove the unnecessary step; make the source live. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFB1-0003eq-7M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFAz-0003co-JN - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFAy-0003bD-5L - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFAx-0003an-Mo - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:43 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFAx-0002Id-LA - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8996B4F3D0; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:38:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46YAr3015640; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:34:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46YAPw015639; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040536.kA45asu11021@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | Just because it works does not make it right for the project. | > @@ -13530,44 +8219,13 @@ In this case, it wasn't "the only possible solution", but it was an adequate answer that carries a point that I hope successfully reaches the target. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFEG-0007QF-Lr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFEF-0007Pq-0E - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFEC-0007Oh-EJ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFEC-0007Oc-A8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:04 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFEC-00033s-7j - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:04 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B3A4F3D1; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:41:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46bVb0015940; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:37:33 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46bVuo015939; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:37:31 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:37:30 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -13604,47 +8262,11 @@ Cc: list I agree. I subscribe to your suggestion to move "unused" files to a "jail" directory. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFNp-0008Ij-MA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:52:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFNo-0008IZ-Sa - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:52:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFNn-0008IB-0E - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:52:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFNm-0008I8-NF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:51:58 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFNm-0004LW-Np - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:51:58 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA46plqp026007 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:51:47 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5219 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 06:51:48 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 06:51:48 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA46g0r11074; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:42:00 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:42:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. > | > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -13669,9 +8291,6 @@ idea == patch? surely you jest. you clearly don't think that's a reasonable sentence or you would not have organized build-improvements the way you did. - - - > [...] > > | one person has total control over the whole source tree in their branch, @@ -13688,11 +8307,6 @@ the axiom sources exist in a dozen places and are freely writeable by two dozen people. a sudden heart attack on my part would have little if any effect on axiom development. - - - - - > | there are a lot of "other tasks" besides checking in changes > | that need to be performed in order to keep a silver version. > | who would have the responsibility to do this? @@ -13701,47 +8315,11 @@ if any effect on axiom development. well, answering related email would be one :-) -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFa0-0000ck-4J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFZy-0000b8-QY - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFZx-0000Xf-AQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFZw-0000X4-VD - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:32 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFZw-0006pQ-IG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:32 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA474KmF005518 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:04:21 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16080 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 07:04:21 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 07:04:21 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA46sYe11085; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:54:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:54:34 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040535.kA45Z2M11017@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! > | @@ -13797,49 +8375,11 @@ you wouldn't expect a conference chair to allow anyone to submit a paper without review, nor are they allowed to change it after it has been accepted. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFb5-0001bT-GM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFb3-0001ZV-MX - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFb2-0001XG-4H - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFb2-0001X5-01 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFb1-0006tc-Jf - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:39 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA475WCF008010 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:05:32 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17650 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 07:05:33 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 07:05:33 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA46tjD11089; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:55:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:55:45 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040536.kA45asu11021@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > | Just because it works does not make it right for the project. > | > @@ -13855,49 +8395,13 @@ silver came into being in response to your requests. a silver-maintainer leader is also in response to your requests. methinks you're making your points. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgG16-0005bM-Q6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgG15-0005bG-J2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgG14-0005b4-3H - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgG13-0005b1-Up - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:33 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgG13-0001V2-SQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18A740F67; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:32:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA47S0Nt016399; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:28:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA47S0Ek016398; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. | > | > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -13960,49 +8464,13 @@ feeling you're obliged to offer aplogogies after apologies. Please, don't be afraid to be more *specific*. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGGP-0004oh-TQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGGN-0004kB-LT - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGGM-0004gg-4j - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgGGL-0004gO-UW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:21 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgGGL-0003d7-Nv - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFAD40F6C; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:48:20 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA47hmdG016564; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:43:50 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA47hmTL016563; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:43:48 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:43:47 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040535.kA45Z2M11017@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040654.kA46sYe11085@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:43:47 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! | > | @@ -14103,49 +8571,11 @@ that is an interesting analogy, but: any meaningful conclusion. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGIM-0006kB-3a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:50:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGIK-0006iX-AS - for list; 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- Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:40:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:40:24 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | please lose the notion of "single point of failure" as it is meaningless. > @@ -14162,51 +8592,13 @@ be specific. prove your claim that a single failure destroys the project. show your work. :-) -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGOV-0003Mt-JH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:56:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGOU-0003Mn-Mj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:56:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGOT-0003Mb-D3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:56:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgGOT-0003MY-5r - for list; 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which of those points were not already made? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGWF-00061k-Qs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGWE-00061W-N3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGWC-00060d-WF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgGWC-00060a-RB - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgGWC-00067M-Ag - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35DD4F3A4; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 09:04:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA480B1G016930; 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- Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:34:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:34:19 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 08:52:11 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040536.kA45asu11021@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040655.kA46tjD11089@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | silver came into being in response to your requests. > @@ -14361,20 +8677,12 @@ Cc: list > At the risk of repeating myself, let me more specific: > - - - > (1) make your changes live and not just read-only. They're not read-only. Search the CHANGELOG file for 'gdr' and you'll see that you have made changes. It is just that my review is part of the change process. - - - - - > (2) in particular, make it possible that we all see the patches > applied (not just a message "patch --xxx" is available). @@ -14382,11 +8690,6 @@ All patches are posted to the list. All patches to silver get automatically posted due to Bill's robot. - - - - - > (3) make the master repository under SVN. This the "main" source > which which expriments, including releases are made of. @@ -14401,11 +8704,6 @@ never was, and is not planned as such. Arch has gold which gets published every couple months with changes mirrored to savannah and sourceforge. We've been doing that for many years. - - - - - > (4) commit changes to the master repository before they go do gold. They are committed to the master repository... axiom--silver--1 @@ -14418,22 +8716,12 @@ obvious and did not break the build-improvements branch. However, a careful review of the change before accepting it into silver found it to be incorrect. - - - - - > (6) have more than just one maintainer. There are 22 maintainers for Arch, 6 people with complete admin access on savannah, and 3 people (including yourself) with complete admin access on sourceforge. - - - - - Ulitmately we differ on philosophy. I believe that each branch has one person ultimately responsible for that branch. The responsible person determines policy. @@ -14444,60 +8732,11 @@ directly to the sources. That is appropriate for development software. I am responsible for gold and silver and don't allow multiple changes to the sources. That is appropriate for final release of software. - - -t - - - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgHFv-00052z-VN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgHFu-00052b-Eg - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgHFr-00051g-G3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgHFq-00051S-QF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:55 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgHFq-0004va-QW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:54 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA48pcd3016308 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:51:42 -0500 -Received: (qmail 23823 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 08:51:39 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 08:51:39 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA48fqj11190; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:41:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:41:52 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 09:00:11 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040740.kA47eO311134@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > A single point of failure is when we have only one person > @@ -14524,42 +8763,11 @@ handed out at the ISSAC conference. The result of this time gained us (hopefully) access to Manuel's work and a few other connections to other people in our target audience. -t - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgINg-0003NE-1k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgINe-0003N0-CK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgINc-0003Mh-1N - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgINb-0003Me-Ur - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:00 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgINb-0000J2-BG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:03:59 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA4A3t32028227 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:03:55 +0100 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:05:57 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: axiom-dev On 11/03/2006 10:22 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -14626,51 +8834,13 @@ So please Gaby, try to make clear what you like even if you have already said that several times before. We must somehow settle the problem that you and Tim obviously have different understanding of "Silver". -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgIOd-0003i7-4v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgIOb-0003hS-GK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgIOa-0003h8-Uy - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgIOa-0003h5-So - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgIOa-0000im-7Y - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:00 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B524F3C9; 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Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:09:28 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:09:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040740.kA47eO311134@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040841.kA48fqj11190@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:09:27 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > A single point of failure is when we have only one person | > @@ -14978,46 +9079,11 @@ And I hope we've gotten build-improvements out of the way. "... gained us acceess to Manuel's work", in which form? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgJ8G-0001EJ-3k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgJ8D-0001Cr-J6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgJ8A-0001BG-Am - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgJ8A-0001B5-2m - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgJ89-00008W-Rm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1EB4F3C2; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:51:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA4AlWJd019211; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:47:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA4AlWgn019210; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> - - <454C6605.6040805@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -15120,33 +9186,11 @@ one repo is the master, others are mirrors to simplify our lives. Now, I understand that is not what we have; I'm trying to see how it can be approximated and made to work. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKCh-0005gw-71 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKCg-0005gq-Dj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKCb-0005g5-Sd - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKCb-0005g1-Ma - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:45 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgKCa-0002Vs-7A - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:44 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgKBT-0003UG-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:59:35 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:59:35 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Bill Page wrote: > I think the following two files are not used anywhere: @@ -15226,56 +9270,17 @@ the only case. Second, it seems that browser were supposed to access only files from 'share' subtree and that files from 'src/doc/ps' were not installed here. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKb0-00040r-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKaz-00040a-96 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKat-0003yc-Tb - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKat-0003yR-Gj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:51 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgKas-0006qM-Fm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:51 -0500 -Received: (qmail 2361 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 12:22:46 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.133338 secs); 04 Nov 2006 12:22:46 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 12:22:46 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 08:25:33 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0 Bill Page wrote: > You only show running the Axiom main console program AXIOMsys. > How about the other parts of Axiom? If you type the command: ->=20 +> > $ axiom No, sman didn't build. Make stops on viewman: @@ -15299,58 +9304,15 @@ make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 I haven't had time to look at the errors yet. > Finally, would you be willing to post a tarball of the Axiom -> binaries distribution?=20 +> binaries distribution? http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110301.tar.gz ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTIbEO8aX8Tqx8vgRAqYWAKC1PJHAR+lMaifCnrWrcErU7u2G3ACgiuGP -zVmKT13C/UnfI5QQpQgnSz8= -=B14G ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgN1U-0003ON-KP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgN1T-0003NL-3u - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgN1S-0003Ly-5Q - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgN1R-0003Lo-W0 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:26 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.27] (helo=smtp-msa-out04.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgN1R-0007t5-82 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:25 -0500 -Received: from [83.194.196.252] (ANancy-151-1-13-252.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr - [83.194.196.252]) - by mwinf0403.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E30E1C0032F; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:01:23 +0100 (CET) -From: Raymond Manzoni -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:59:22 +0100 -To: list, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Cc: - +From: Raymond Manzoni +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 13:25, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : @@ -15368,7 +9330,7 @@ Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 13:25, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : > gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE -DMACOSXplatform > -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/sys -I/usr/X11R6/include > -I/Users/humberto/src/axiom-darcs/src/graph/include -> -I/Users/humberto/src/axiom-darcs/src/include -I. -c -o sselect.o =20 +> -I/Users/humberto/src/axiom-darcs/src/include -I. -c -o sselect.o > sselect.c > sselect.c: In function 'superSelect': > sselect.c:94: error: 'SIGCLD' undeclared (first use in this function) @@ -15391,33 +9353,33 @@ Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 13:25, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : And thanks for providing this binary! My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, = -Darwin =20 -Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 +Darwin +Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your configuration I think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! In fact I tried earlier to repeat your manipulations to compile = -from =20 -source and could repeat the second part (use adacs to get axiom =20 +from +source and could repeat the second part (use adacs to get axiom source and so on) but the first part (install gcl) didn't work here... The gcl generation ends (depending on paths and/or parameter) = -with =20 +with either a gcl readline error : gcl_readline.d: In function 'rl_completion': -gcl_readline.d:221: warning: implicit declaration of function =20 +gcl_readline.d:221: warning: implicit declaration of function 'rl_completion_matches' -gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first =20 +gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first use in this function) -gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported =20 +gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gcl_readline.d:221: error: for each function it appears in.) gcl_readline.d:221: error: parse error before ')' token or the more annoying tk problem : -/usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/=20 +/usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/ tk8.4.6/unix) does not exist -/usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _tclPlatStubsPtr =20 +/usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _tclPlatStubsPtr and others... /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _my_free @@ -15425,69 +9387,37 @@ _my_malloc (at this point there was a usable saved_gcl but...) I did this (and some variants without --disable-nls or the = -export =20 +export line and so on...) : Get a working gcl with CVS : - export CVS_RSH=3Dssh - export CVSROOT=3D:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl + export CVS_RSH=ssh + export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl In gcl-2.6.8pre : - - remove -lintl from the LIBS:=3D line of = + - remove -lintl from the LIBS:= line of = h/powerpc-macosx.defs - export LIBRARY_PATH=3D`pwd`/binutils/intl + export LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/binutils/intl ./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls make=09 With the results previously given... Do you see something inappropriate in the previous lines or = -could =20 +could you give me the commands you used to successfully compile gcl on PPC? In any case many thanks again for your binary! Raymond -> --=20 -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNn6-0006l9-5B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNn3-0006i3-LX - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNn2-0006gT-A8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgNn2-0006gM-29 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:36 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgNn1-0006Tm-TL - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:36 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgNm4-0000ku-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:49:36 +0100 -Subject: Re: Maintainers -To: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:49:36 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Maintainers root wrote: > > > Based on your extensive work would you consider being the @@ -15550,35 +9480,11 @@ frankly, my views differ from current Axiom practice. I thought that your proposal is part of establishing new practice -- I see now that I again misundrestood you. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNyW-0003GP-P2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNyU-0003Fq-VP - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNyU-0003FX-GW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgNyU-0003FA-8Z - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgNyT-00089Z-Nq - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:25 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgNxZ-000149-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:01:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! -To: Raymond Manzoni +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 17:01:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Raymond Manzoni +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Raymond Manzoni wrote: > @@ -15613,50 +9519,11 @@ end up using 'libedit' -- in many cases leading to errors like above. The message described what configure has to do to distingush 'libedit' from true 'readline', but I do not remember details. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPj4-0007rC-G0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPj2-0007qH-Gu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPj1-0007p3-If - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgPj0-0007op-TI - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgPj0-0007cX-T2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4HsCur032169 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:54:16 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12788 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 17:54:14 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Ralf Hemmecke; 4 Nov 2006 17:54:14 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4HiVr11735; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:44:31 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:44:31 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> - - <454C6605.6040805@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list > On a regular bases, we branch off SILVER to make release branches. > For example, we could decide that next Tuesday, we will branch off @@ -15757,49 +9624,11 @@ I'd like to hear from the other people lurking on this list. What is your opinion. Try to speak freely and clearly. My feelings will not be hurt so don't mince words. -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPlh-0002S2-6E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPle-0002RY-TM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPlZ-0002NX-B5 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgPlZ-0002NQ-11 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:13 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgPlY-0007vD-Qy - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:13 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14763 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 17:54:10 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.154822 secs); 04 Nov 2006 17:54:10 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 17:54:10 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:56:55 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -To: Raymond Manzoni +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Raymond Manzoni Raymond Manzoni Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA Raymond Manzoni wrote: > And thanks for providing this binary! @@ -15823,7 +9652,7 @@ Good. > once > gcl_readline.d:221: error: for each function it appears in.) > gcl_readline.d:221: error: parse error before ')' token ->=20 +> > or the more annoying tk problem : > /usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name > (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/tk8.4.6/unix) does not exist @@ -15838,13 +9667,13 @@ I think these are both symptoms of the gcl configure picking up packages from fink (/sw/bin, /sw/lib, ...) and having the compile break. -> export CVSROOT=3D:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl +> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl > cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl ->=20 +> > In gcl-2.6.8pre : -> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:=3D line of h/powerpc-macosx.defs ->=20 -> export LIBRARY_PATH=3D`pwd`/binutils/intl +> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:= line of h/powerpc-macosx.defs +> +> export LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/binutils/intl You don't need that anymore if you patch, as we won't use libintl anymore= =2E @@ -15857,67 +9686,16 @@ until I changed the PATH. In any case, I used fink's latex and pdflatex for the gcl documentation build, so you could try something like: -PATH=3D/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin +PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin =2E/configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls all on one line. Good luck. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTNRvO8aX8Tqx8vgRAkdQAJ9hSrKJsnU5oW1ucgVxFeeJ2cA0vQCfTzY5 -26153ZbJP/b6233GWcLuUaA= -=2RtH ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQLH-0005uu-A0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQLF-0005uK-Tf - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQLE-0005tV-7v - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQLE-0005tQ-2l - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:04 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQL5-0005sZ-9n - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:04 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4IXqnx004875 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:33:52 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30002 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 18:33:51 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 4 Nov 2006 18:33:51 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4INvj11757; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:23:57 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:23:57 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: raymman@free.fr - Raymond Manzoni on Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:59:22 +0100) +From: Tim Daly +To: Raymond Manzoni Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - -Cc: list > > http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110301.tar.gz > > @@ -15935,50 +9713,13 @@ dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.6.dylib Referenced from: /private/var/root/axiom50/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0/bin/./AXIOMsys Reason: image not found -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQQw-0001EV-Ug - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQQv-0001DW-B6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQQs-0001DK-S5 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQQs-0001DH-MV - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQQr-0006MN-15 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803E44F3BF; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:39:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA4IZGMN025996; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:35:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA4IZGMv025995; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:35:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 04 Nov 2006 19:35:16 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> - - <454C6605.6040805@hemmecke.de> - - <200611041744.kA4HiVr11735@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 19:35:16 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > On a regular bases, we branch off SILVER to make release branches. | > For example, we could decide that next Tuesday, we will branch off @@ -16083,47 +9824,12 @@ just did. Don't base decisions on mischaracterizations. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQRR-00020w-8b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQRO-0001w9-Jq - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQRM-0001tN-Uu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQRM-0001tB-Qg - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:24 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQRM-0006Ot-RS - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:25 -0500 -Received: (qmail 15869 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 18:37:23 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.146341 secs); 04 Nov 2006 18:37:23 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 18:37:22 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:40:09 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039" Subject: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039 - I patched src/graph/sselect.c.pamphlet (well, first I patched the .c file, but I wised up before mailing the patch, shouldn't notangle mangle line numbers in C sources so they point at the pamphlets?) @@ -16131,7 +9837,7 @@ line numbers in C sources so they point at the pamphlets?) I guess Macs have BSD style signals: Sat Nov 4 14:32:19 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga - +Humberto Zuazaga * mac-sselect diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet new-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet @@ -16142,7 +9848,7 @@ new-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@ /* flush(spadSock); */ /* send_int(spadSock,1); acknowledge to spad */ - checkClosedChild =3D no; + checkClosedChild = no; -#if defined(BSDplatform) +#if defined(BSDplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) bsdSignal(SIGCHLD,endChild,DontRestartSystemCalls); @@ -16155,7 +9861,7 @@ regexp.h: Sat Nov 4 14:06:48 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga - +Humberto Zuazaga * regex-mac diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet new-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet @@ -16198,68 +9904,11 @@ make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 I can't figure out what loc2 is supposed to be, I can't see any definition in any of the other pamphlets in the hyper directory. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTN6QO8aX8Tqx8vgRAhEhAJ0bdxwao6tvqWV6M+FP9K43R0Bn+QCgid1r -xm1dIeS2Xo8qJz/yuWv187A= -=qCgm ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQc4-00046p-5W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQc2-00043D-2I - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQc0-00040H-MN - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQc0-000404-IC - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:24 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQc0-0007Rq-F8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:24 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16392 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 18:48:22 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.119749 secs); 04 Nov 2006 18:48:22 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 18:48:21 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:51:08 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - <200611041823.kA4INvj11757@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2 root wrote: >>> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110301.tar.gz @@ -16268,17 +9917,17 @@ root wrote: >> >> And thanks for providing this binary! >> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, Darwin = -=20 ->> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 + +>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your >> configuration I think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! ->=20 +> > Unfortunately this does not work for me. I get: ->=20 +> > dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.6.dylib > Referenced from: /private/var/root/axiom50/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0/b= in/./AXIOMsys > Reason: image not found ->=20 +> > Tim AXIOMsys doesn't need X support does it? I'm going to try to rebuild gcl @@ -16292,64 +9941,11 @@ compatible with OS X 10.2 or later (I don't know if it's static or uses compatibility libraries). It may be possible to pass flags to the command line tools to achieve the same thing. I'll ask around ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTOEjO8aX8Tqx8vgRAtW2AJ9m0QE7WEd3UCI6VJeUtwCqSC94yACeISe5 -9+GiJoNZIAnhyBPRnPcaOBU= -=OfDc ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQjB-0001sl-Ug - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQjA-0001rF-Gj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQj6-0001m1-Uc - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQj6-0001ls-PQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:44 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQj6-00082f-UL - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:45 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4IweP0030345 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:58:40 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1626 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 18:58:39 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 18:58:39 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4ImkP11782; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:48:46 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:48:46 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:51:08 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - <200611041823.kA4INvj11757@localhost.localdomain> - <454CE11C.1010603@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list > AXIOMsys doesn't need X support does it? I'm going to try to rebuild gcl > without X support and build a new axiom from it. Is there an equivalent @@ -16366,50 +9962,11 @@ AXIOMsys is just a pure lisp image and only requires a command line. I really can't say. I'm not well versed in using a MAC for development. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtE-00041Q-8c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtC-00040r-T1 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtB-0003zu-RG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQtB-0003zr-NW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:09 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQtB-0000fP-B0 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:09 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17045 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 19:06:07 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.302792 secs); 04 Nov 2006 19:06:07 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 19:06:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:08:53 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - <454C86BD.602@hpcf.upr.edu> <200611041823.kA4INvj11757@localhost.localdomain> - <454CE11C.1010603@hpcf.upr.edu> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > root wrote: @@ -16419,8 +9976,8 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: >>> >>> And thanks for providing this binary! >>> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, Darwin= - =20 ->>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 + +>>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your >>> configuration I think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! >> Unfortunately this does not work for me. I get: >> @@ -16430,7 +9987,7 @@ bin/./AXIOMsys >> Reason: image not found >> >> Tim ->=20 +> > AXIOMsys doesn't need X support does it? I'm going to try to rebuild gc= l > without X support and build a new axiom from it. Is there an equivalent= @@ -16438,7 +9995,7 @@ l > to the linux ldd command on Mac OS? On linux, ldd lists out the dynamic= > libraries used by a program. ->=20 +> > I think there is another solution, in XCode, I can specify what kind of= > project to build, and one of the options is (I think) a binary that is @@ -16446,12 +10003,12 @@ l > compatibility libraries). It may be possible to pass flags to the > command line tools to achieve the same thing. I'll ask around ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 +> +> +> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - ->=20 +> > _______________________________________________ > Axiom-developer mailing list > list @@ -16494,63 +10051,23 @@ http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110401.tar.gz The configure invocation for GCL is: - 552 PATH=3D/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin= + 552 PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin= 555 make clean - 556 ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --enable-locbfd + 556 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls --disable-xgcl --disable-x - 557 PATH=3D$PATH:/sw/bin + 557 PATH=$PATH:/sw/bin 558 make ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTOVMO8aX8Tqx8vgRAqKJAJ9YwvCzyQtKWUA+nSO2uqBPi1GaFwCfdRUg -cpm1eNDdedpJVdS8ES4/Xbk= -=cYFd ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtg-0004F3-V2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQte-0004EG-7f - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtc-0004Dg-RM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQtc-0004Dd-Og - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:36 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQtc-0000iU-DF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:36 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgQsa-0005It-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:08:32 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:08:32 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Sat Nov 4 14:06:48 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> +> Humberto Zuazaga > * regex-mac > diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet > new-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet @@ -16602,56 +10119,18 @@ is quite different. AFAICS we should rewrite hthits.c to use regex.h on all platforms, but this slightly more then changing include line. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQzo-0005TB-NM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:16:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQzn-0005Pz-JT - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQzm-0005MJ-22 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQzl-0005M3-Uq - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:57 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQzj-0001ZI-2k - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:57 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4JFkJE025628 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:15:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5393 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 19:15:46 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 4 Nov 2006 19:15:46 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4J5qr11825; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:05:52 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:05:52 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:40:09 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -Cc: list - This patch has been added to silver. I'm not sure about the hyper changes. I need to investigate further. -t - - > Sat Nov 4 14:32:19 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> +> Humberto Zuazaga > * mac-sselect > diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet > new-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet @@ -16662,40 +10141,18 @@ t > @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@ > /* flush(spadSock); */ > /* send_int(spadSock,1); acknowledge to spad */ -> checkClosedChild =3D no; +> checkClosedChild = no; > -#if defined(BSDplatform) > +#if defined(BSDplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) > bsdSignal(SIGCHLD,endChild,DontRestartSystemCalls); > #else > bsdSignal(SIGCLD,endChild,DontRestartSystemCalls); - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgRjn-0004HS-H4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgRjl-0004FY-O7 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgRji-0004CV-TK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgRji-0004CL-MH - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgRjh-0001pg-Um - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgRig-0008SV-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:02:22 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:02:22 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > and viewman now compiles. Next problem is hyper, the Mac doesn't have @@ -16784,49 +10241,11 @@ diff -u build-improvements.pp/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet build-improvements/src/h printf("\\newsearchresultentry{%d}{%s}",nhits, pgtitle); squirt(pgname, strlen(pgname)); --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgSSM-00085o-Qk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgSSL-00083e-8W - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgSSJ-0007zz-In - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgSSJ-0007zn-C1 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:31 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgSSH-0000EM-Lm - for list; 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- 4 Nov 2006 22:41:22 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:44:15 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46" - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46 - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------030603050401050103040203 Waldek Hebisch wrote: > configure.ac.pamphlet contains the following: ->=20 +> > *darwin*) -> PLF=3DMACOSXplatform -> CCF=3D"-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE -D${PLF} \ +> PLF=MACOSXplatform +> CCF="-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE -D${PLF} \ > -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/sys" -> GCLOPTS=3D"--enable-vssize=3D65536*2 --enable-maxpage=3D256*102= +> GCLOPTS="--enable-vssize=65536*2 --enable-maxpage=256*102= 4 --disable-locbfd \ > --disable-statsysbfd --enable-custreloc --disable-tkconfig= \ -> --enable-machine=3Dpwerpc-macosx" +> --enable-machine=pwerpc-macosx" > ;; > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ->=20 -> This look wrong on two accounts:=20 +> +> This look wrong on two accounts: > 1) standard name is 'powerpc-macosx' > 2) seem to ignore Intel Macs ->=20 +> There still isn't a working gcl for Intel Mac OS X, I started mangling -the source to support "--enable-machine=3Di386-macosx", but it's still no= +the source to support "--enable-machine=i386-macosx", but it's still no= t working. Configure thinks my mac is "i686-apple-darwin8.8.1", as opposed to the G5 which is "powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0". I don't think there will @@ -16996,97 +10335,33 @@ external gcl I have that built axiom sucessfully. The "--disable-tkconfig" should help with the Tcl/Tk issues we've been having. What are the memory and custreloc flags for? ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - ---------------030603050401050103040203 - name="signature.asc" - filename="signature.asc" - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTRXiO8aX8Tqx8vgRAh2nAJ42tkagwDJfWywy/yTnjHTX4wGIEwCbBIq4 -SqvivwjBRgl5XcL07Sc5UUw=3D -=3Dg11l ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - ---------------030603050401050103040203-- - ---------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTRe/O8aX8Tqx8vgRAk0eAKCCigjJkXyKafZJAGxK912NomSsVQCfUu7C -RNHXtF5rYPHxbZNqT4XLE9E= -=9RYh ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWQG-0007Gt-3m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWQE-0007Go-Rr - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWQD-0007Gc-KO - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgWQD-0007GZ-HT - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:37 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp-msa-out14.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgWQC-0004pL-Tm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:37 -0500 -Received: from [83.196.174.5] (ANancy-151-1-64-5.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr - [83.196.174.5]) - by mwinf1403.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2B0C7000090; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:03:35 +0100 (CET) - - <454CD467.7080109@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Raymond Manzoni -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:01:32 +0100 -To: list, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Cc: - - -Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 18:56, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : +From: Raymond Manzoni +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! > Raymond Manzoni wrote: >> And thanks for providing this binary! ->> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, =20 +>> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, >> Darwin ->> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 +>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your >> configuration I >> think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! > > Good. > ->> The gcl generation ends (depending on paths and/or parameter) =20 +>> The gcl generation ends (depending on paths and/or parameter) >> with >> either a gcl readline error : >> gcl_readline.d: In function 'rl_completion': >> gcl_readline.d:221: warning: implicit declaration of function >> 'rl_completion_matches' ->> gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first =20= +>> gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first = >> use >> in this function) ->> gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported =20= +>> gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported = >> only >> once @@ -17096,52 +10371,52 @@ Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 18:56, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : >> or the more annoying tk problem : >> /usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name >> (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/tk8.4.6/unix) does not exist ->> /usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol =20 +>> /usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol >> _tclPlatStubsPtr and >> others... >> /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: >> _my_free >> _my_malloc > -> I think these are both symptoms of the gcl configure picking up =20 +> I think these are both symptoms of the gcl configure picking up > packages > from fink (/sw/bin, /sw/lib, ...) and having the compile break. > > ->> export CVSROOT=3D:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl +>> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl >> cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl >> >> In gcl-2.6.8pre : ->> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:=3D line of = +>> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:= line of = h/powerpc-macosx.defs >> ->> export LIBRARY_PATH=3D`pwd`/binutils/intl +>> export LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/binutils/intl > -> You don't need that anymore if you patch, as we won't use libintl =20 +> You don't need that anymore if you patch, as we won't use libintl > anymore. > -> I manipulated my PATH to remove /sw/bin and similar, so gcl's =20 +> I manipulated my PATH to remove /sw/bin and similar, so gcl's > configure -> doesn't see the fink tcl/Tk, I think you can pass some kind of =20 +> doesn't see the fink tcl/Tk, I think you can pass some kind of > configure > option to gcl to do the same thing, but I kept having wierd problems > until I changed the PATH. > -> In any case, I used fink's latex and pdflatex for the gcl =20 +> In any case, I used fink's latex and pdflatex for the gcl > documentation > build, so you could try something like: > -> PATH=3D/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin +> PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin > ./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls > - Thanks for the trick of isolating Fink (/sw/... by default) and =20= + Thanks for the trick of isolating Fink (/sw/... by default) and = DarwinPort (/opt/local/...). It worked indeed with exactly these instructions! I just added two symbolic links in /usr/local/bin : the first = -since =20 -pdflatex was needed for completion of the make and the second =20 +since +pdflatex was needed for completion of the make and the second (optional) for .dvi generation of the make install : cd /usr/local/bin =09 @@ -17151,7 +10426,7 @@ ln -s /sw/bin/tex tex make sudo make install - installed gcl so that I could start the (very long...) axiom =20 + installed gcl so that I could start the (very long...) axiom compilation (NRLIBS generation) I got the SIGCLD errors and applied your corrections : @@ -17163,74 +10438,27 @@ by I got stuck with the hyper problem : 13 making /Users/raym/Desktop/dev/axio/axiom/src/hyper -make[2]: *** No rule to make target `addfile.pamphlet', needed by =20 +make[2]: *** No rule to make target `addfile.pamphlet', needed by `addfile.h'. Stop. make[1]: *** [hyper/stamp] Error 2 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 - I fear there is an order problem here since the hthits.pamphlet =20= + I fear there is an order problem here since the hthits.pamphlet = -doesn't exist in the 'hyper' folder at this point (as opposed to the =20 +doesn't exist in the 'hyper' folder at this point (as opposed to the older axiom projects I have). I'll stop here (it's late in France). Thanks again for the help (I don't forget Tim, Bill, Aurelien = -and =20 +and many others!) - Best regards, - Raymond -=09 - -> all on one line. Good luck. -> -> --=20 -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWxk-0002bT-0E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWxi-0002aZ-F0 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWxg-0002ZF-VA - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgWxg-0002Z8-Ls - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:12 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgWxg-0000hf-CQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:12 -0500 -Received: (qmail 28860 invoked by uid 7797); 5 Nov 2006 01:35:10 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.130541 secs); 05 Nov 2006 01:35:10 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 5 Nov 2006 01:35:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:37:52 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1" -Cc: Subject: Tarball for Mac OS X -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1 - With Waldek's latest patches it looks like the build completed. I've put a tarball up: @@ -17245,61 +10473,11 @@ ptyopen failed: No such file or directory Sorry, I have to check if darcs overwrote the openpty patches. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTUB7O8aX8Tqx8vgRAloeAJ4zzYOsL9OMbn/TBp+vnhTwschLRwCfWHYs -FGL1vFyL2qQ13KKGP5PnOEU= -=9ONq ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgXYa-00073d-Ns - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:16:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgXYY-00073I-N6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:16:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgXYV-000735-BK - for list; 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- 5 Nov 2006 02:51:58 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:54:42 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X - <200611050206.kA5268V11958@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548 root wrote: > I downloaded your latest version ->=20 +> > http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110402.tar.gz ->=20 +> > but don't know how to set the AXIOM variable. ->=20 +> > t The tarfile contains the powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 directory that should be the target of the AXIOM variable: tar zxf axiom-ppc-2006110402.tar.gz -export AXIOM=3D`pwd`/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 -PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +export AXIOM=`pwd`/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 +PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH AXIOMsys should work at least on PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4 systems. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTVJ6O8aX8Tqx8vgRAqkTAJ9vuM0NetP2lYS+hCYhsIjx11cwEwCgtOzS -9L/pmgBq+Zkxjd3+jsxLpmI= -=DjPb ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYJq-0002Lq-Ne - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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5 Nov 2006 03:04:53 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA52t3Y11983; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:55:03 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:55:03 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:37:52 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X -Cc: list > > I downloaded your latest version > > @@ -17436,7 +10527,7 @@ Cc: list > > tar zxf axiom-ppc-2006110402.tar.gz > export AXIOM=`pwd`/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 -> PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH > AXIOMsys > > should work at least on PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4 systems. @@ -17446,41 +10537,11 @@ Nope. Fails for me. AXIOMsys Error: Caught fatal error -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYPH-0006sA-5D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYPG-0006rm-1W - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYPE-0006rQ-Fr - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYPE-0006rF-5Q - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:44 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.184] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYPD-0006Sk-Jg - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:44 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so1962816nfa - for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:10:42 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=fXRF5Cno26H+L5QKGgh5+zdA5wCBZiF9S8TsK/08L2xG4b+O0HjGuTIyp5FSbK0Xe5XvibYAh8XrwLgosYiuB/2Mw8ytZJ9Bn2GqCqlZlO/E5Yq89rcA3mbDPVdh5KaMc1kuTnWHyJWYv5Jr33HigVB+1N3lOgHaMFGrLdYva4o= -Received: by 10.82.106.14 with SMTP id e14mr1068178buc.1162696241929; - Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:10:41 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:10:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:10:41 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga" +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X - <200611050206.kA5268V11958@localhost.localdomain> - <454D5272.7070402@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list Hi Humberto, @@ -17500,44 +10561,11 @@ Maybe in here (Bill can probably say a better location): http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYe5-0002O4-Kg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYe4-0002MC-JG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYe3-0002KA-NP - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYe3-0002Jf-F7 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYe3-0007aP-Ak - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:03 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1644F3C0; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:26:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA53LRPM001678; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:21:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA53LR2P001677; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:21:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:21:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:21:27 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -17561,45 +10589,13 @@ Yes on both accounts. Those are what were in the Makefiles when I branched. I never committed my changes to that. The test should be based on the target canonical triplet. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYhZ-00053J-Sc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYhX-000536-SV - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYhW-00052u-Gu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYhW-00052r-A3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYhW-0008AJ-4p - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FC14F3C1; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:29:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA53P2rb001819; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:25:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA53P2Si001818; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:25:02 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet - <454D17BF.3060703@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:25:02 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > configure.ac.pamphlet contains the following: @@ -17639,79 +10635,23 @@ the standard and traditional --target. We don't need Tcl/Tk -- that was observed by Vanuxem a while ago. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYij-0005F4-9P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYih-0005EC-U2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYif-0005DO-U8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYif-0005DL-S3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYie-0008Vz-6v - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:48 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3109C4F3B0; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:30:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA53QDTh001823; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:26:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA53QChs001822; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:26:12 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:26:12 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | With Waldek's latest patches it looks like the build completed. Is there a chance you can summarize all the patches that enables the build? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggacg-0006u3-OY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggacf-0006rw-6Q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggacc-0006pT-HM - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggacc-0006pQ-Cw - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.134] (helo=mail14c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggacc-0006Zj-Ah - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:42 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail14c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA55WLKl030926; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:32:35 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Alfredo Portes'" Alfredo Portes Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:32:19 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: RE: Suggestion On November 4, 2006 11:40 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -17746,38 +10686,10 @@ link Executables to Programs instead of deleting it since some people seem to miss the fact that the headings are in fact also links. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgamQ-0006R5-3p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgamO-0006Qu-UY - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgamM-0006Qi-EB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgamM-0006Qf-9c - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.135] (helo=mail15c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgamM-0007ti-9J - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:46 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail15c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA55gR2G027389; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:42:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Alfredo Portes'" Alfredo Portes Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:42:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: RE: Suggestion Alfredo, @@ -17800,38 +10712,10 @@ you think there should still be a link to it directly from FrontPage? I agree that BuildAxiom is the right place to add the build procedure for OS X. Feel free ... :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggb8a-0003xf-Fd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggb8X-0003tt-3B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggb8U-0003qY-2A - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggb8T-0003qA-9q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:37 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggb8S-00026J-RP - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:37 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA565GIf022296; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 01:05:31 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Alfredo Portes'" Alfredo Portes +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 01:05:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: RE: Suggestion On November 5, 2006 12:52 AM Alfredo Portes asked: @@ -17858,42 +10742,10 @@ harder than it turned out to be for the MAC! :-) Do you have any interest in working on the Windows version? -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgbJ8-00035Q-S5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgbJ6-00033P-4U - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgbJ4-00031v-9l - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgbJ4-00031k-3X - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:34 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgbJ3-0003Qu-TO - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:34 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2010328nfa - for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:16:32 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=UJLOaeis8cqtrVyErdx6c8hOLctfYtlEPXOKIVSNT5XeAhw3MAJZobxU9QIU/uCuds5A7OEwNs9qNj7DHKnq/K51FIlEmPhx0LwmiJjLgT/uGtbmpyds+Bk69350mMg+5UBvxHh67feVOzfQem1Culu+yF86lwoC6qqvwksqzHM= -Received: by 10.82.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr964628bue.1162707392652; - Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:16:32 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:16:32 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 01:16:32 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page - <017c01c700a0$62087fc0$6900a8c0@asus> -Cc: list +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Suggestion On 11/5/06, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17927,41 +10779,11 @@ Windows sounds like a fun project :-). It would be nice to have the Linux, OS X and Windows binaries on the livecd. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcwg-0006tZ-If - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcwe-0006rF-P6 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcwd-0006oP-1l - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggcwc-0006oA-SZ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:30 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggcwc-0001jz-DT - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:30 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA581BkK012211 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:01:15 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1802 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 08:01:12 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Alfredo Portes; 5 Nov 2006 08:01:12 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA57pNS12092; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:51:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:51:23 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: Suggestion -Cc: list Bill, Alfredo, @@ -17978,83 +10800,22 @@ We could also keep the Doyen in the list. Opinions? -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgczA-0002zJ-Uf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcz9-0002wg-KX - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcz8-0002tV-7U - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggcz8-0002tE-2x - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:06 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggcz7-0002Of-K1 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:05 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA583we2013203 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:03:58 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12312 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 08:03:59 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Alfredo Portes; 5 Nov 2006 08:03:59 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA57sBg12101; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:54:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:54:11 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: Suggestion -Cc: list Bill, Did you ever add the asq setup? I don't see it anywhere. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdKI-0001XR-Hn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdKH-0001XM-EN - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdKE-0001WO-Tk - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgdKE-0001W9-Pm - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:54 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgdKE-0004NN-EI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:54 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2037396nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:53 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=TuQKVqtU4Oizmzxc4D8iyiPu823k1grYZG9bqPohPiUpvDPTmCLN3cReChvtaXlMR6NXf5q9zmlqYo83wMnbMwzpdp4RI1m3Q2XG8pCoOHIVWkMqPyUt3w41fttsHB9Ve69OeOTAtScEdeoJ0SZQnZjCL7J+M11rDnyattf/Q2s= -Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr1089490buc.1162715152888; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:52 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:25:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:25:52 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomBinaries @@ -18084,7 +10845,7 @@ The Axiom binary file for the........ I do not know if this makes sense or I dont know if you would prefer to have individual pages for each platform. -On 11/5/06, root Tim Daly wrote: +On 11/5/06, Tim Daly wrote: > Bill, Alfredo, > > I might suggest that we reorganize a portion of the axiom binary @@ -18097,49 +10858,12 @@ On 11/5/06, root Tim Daly wrote: > does not currently support graphics). > > We could also keep the Doyen in the list. -> -> Opinions? -> -> t -> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdX3-0001Kd-WA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdX3-0001KH-2G - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdX1-0001Jd-MB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgdX1-0001Ja-KG - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:07 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgdX1-0006JY-Lz - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:07 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA58cxA4008299 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:38:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16564 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 08:39:00 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 5 Nov 2006 08:39:00 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA58TCB12202; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:29:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:29:12 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes - (Alfredo Portes) Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list well, clearly i think the table organization is clearer :-) the advantage is that you can see at a glance which binaries @@ -18154,44 +10878,13 @@ we could even color code the table entries for "partial", "experimental branch", "silver" and "gold" versions so it would be possible to have multiple versions per platform. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggde1-0006IG-0N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggddy-0006Er-LP - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggddw-0006D4-WF - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggddw-0006Cj-Rr - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:16 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.188] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggddw-0006su-Sl - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:17 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2041779nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:46:15 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=rK1xeW0XGgavOTqIXapbUh2i+S+Emv+mbobtLfsnvnokdcdX0xSkMOqs59Tak1CBeJlznAHgF6s/CwKLrQq818z3Ih3L+is1aMg7As9w9iyUxC7yCkXdQUx2RwrU/jGKTNa1oK133IoyhPg7TakwpgbaiQ/sTmInHsi4Jw5EQXo= -Received: by 10.82.131.1 with SMTP id e1mr1088516bud.1162716375285; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:46:15 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:46:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:46:15 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611050829.kA58TCB12202@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list -On 11/5/06, root Tim Daly wrote: +On 11/5/06, Tim Daly wrote: > well, clearly i think the table organization is clearer :-) > the advantage is that you can see at a glance which binaries > are available, which are downlevel, and which are missing. @@ -18211,45 +10904,11 @@ but then, where are the release notes going to be placed? That sounds interesting. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gge8u-0004TT-EE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gge8s-0004PY-Nt - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gge8q-0004Hl-1K - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gge8p-0004HV-Sq - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:11 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gge8p-0001Xt-OV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:11 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA59Ht8W003577 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:17:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17977 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 09:17:56 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 5 Nov 2006 09:17:56 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA5987a12580; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:08:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:08:07 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes - (Alfredo Portes) Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611050829.kA58TCB12202@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > > entries in the table can point to the same binaries if they > > work across multiple platforms so there is no need for a @@ -18273,32 +10932,10 @@ Gold 50| Notes | | Binary | ------------------------------------------------ -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GggdX-0002AX-Fs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GggdV-0002AC-LU - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GggdT-00029x-Sp - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GggdT-00029u-PK - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:57:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GggdT-0000TI-QV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:00 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GggcX-0005Sx-00; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 12:57:01 +0100 -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:57:01 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers @@ -18314,34 +10951,10 @@ Sorry, last time when I tried to update wiki (different page) it did not work -- I typed in all that silly info which 'preferences' want to gather but it still did not work. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggi74-00031B-5A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggi72-0002xO-BB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggi70-0002t9-4k - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggi6z-0002sv-TG - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggi6z-0000yc-P9 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:34 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ggi64-0003h7-00 - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:31:36 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 14:31:36 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Ping: file removals I proposed removing several files from Axiom repository. ATM only @@ -18375,52 +10988,11 @@ generated documentation files: I would give high priority to removing extra copy of 'util.ht', since 'util.ht' contains paths to files which we need to rename. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggib7-0002JL-17 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggib5-0002JG-Bz - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggib3-0002IU-HI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggib3-0002IO-Du - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:37 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggib2-0004cS-N0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 13644 invoked by uid 7797); 5 Nov 2006 14:00:33 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.092056 secs); 05 Nov 2006 14:00:33 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 5 Nov 2006 14:00:33 -0000 +\start Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 10:03:18 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X - <200611050206.kA5268V11958@localhost.localdomain> - <454D5272.7070402@hpcf.upr.edu> - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041 Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -18443,56 +11015,10 @@ $ make :-) - ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTe8uO8aX8Tqx8vgRAjiqAJ9W4IvbQf0DrxQHUk2KE9J3aP2PcgCeP+7f -uz+IN0pTouCFDGaEQCmFCSw= -=m33L ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggidj-0002rK-H0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggidi-0002pG-02 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggidg-0002oE-GQ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggidg-0002oB-Bb - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:20 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggidf-0004yI-Td - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:20 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA5E6G32020813 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:06:17 +0100 +\start Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:08:31 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list Subject: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers Send it to me then, I'll do it for you. The page should actually still @@ -18515,40 +11041,11 @@ On 11/05/2006 12:57 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > did not work -- I typed in all that silly info which 'preferences' > want to gather but it still did not work. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgjOu-0007Wc-1J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgjOr-0007Uy-Jx - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgjOp-0007Tq-PI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgjOp-0007Tk-BK - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgjOp-0006KK-BY - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:03 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DE14F3C6; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:54:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA5EoP5h009302; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:50:28 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA5EoPIn009301; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: file removals From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Date: 05 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -18600,44 +11097,11 @@ the PDF generatin anyway). This morning I'll merge some changes from silver and work on the build without X11 item. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggktj-0003i8-1k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:31:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggkth-0003hy-Bu - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:31:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggktf-0003hg-Rm - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:31:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggktf-0003hd-Og - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:30:59 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggktf-0007Z0-PL - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:30:59 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA5GUcHp006107 - for ; 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5 Nov 2006 16:33:51 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA5GO6n19999; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:24:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:24:06 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 05 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100) Subject: Re: Ping: file removals - -Cc: list > | generated documentation files: > | @@ -18722,46 +11153,13 @@ applied to the sources which people have submitted so the sources differ marginally, thus it is not possible to recreate the pdf unless you go into the archive and fetch the unpatched sources. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggl9Z-0003ni-K9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:47:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggl9Y-0003lc-8j - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:47:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggl9V-0003fC-4W - for list; 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Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnVE-0006rf-7S - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnVB-0006r4-1T - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgnVA-0006r0-SB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:52 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgnVA-0001Gf-Nl - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:52 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA5JHSqm021122; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 14:17:43 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: RE: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 14:17:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers On November 5, 2006 6:57 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -19089,40 +11383,10 @@ It would be very helpful to me (and other people trying to use the wiki) if you would report any problems you have so that they can be addressed. "did not work" is not very helpful :-( -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnnI-0000gU-2y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnnF-0000g0-SM - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnnD-0000ff-9N - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgnnD-0000fc-4B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:31 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.67] (helo=elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgnnD-0005AY-3T - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:31 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=FSfIi6z5y2LPoKasp9WgjWqLIdy9ErP3ZgRxE2Dfa15kM7/Qx0dvRe6EqSJy6QK5; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.172.99] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GgnnB-0002Fg-Ka - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:29 -0500 +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:47:24 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:47:24 -0800 - charset="us-ascii" Subject: drawRibbons from the book I have been working my way through the book. The first version of @@ -19178,43 +11442,11 @@ drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) == Line 16: vp 8 error(s) parsing - -Richard Harke - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggnud-0002Tf-D6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggnub-0002QR-Og - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggnua-0002O8-9a - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggnua-0002O2-7A - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggnua-0005xH-8Y - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:08 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490CA4F3B8; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:43:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA5JdUTt013872; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:39:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA5JdUUQ013871; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:39:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 05 Nov 2006 20:39:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Nov 2006 20:39:29 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -19226,36 +11458,10 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: You just revealed to the world, my long-term secret plan for Axiom. :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo4K-0000OM-CR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo4I-0000O5-W8 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo4G-0000Nt-H5 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggo4G-0000Nq-7O - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggo4G-0006qY-8C - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:08 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFF64F3F0; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:53:54 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1Ggo4D-0003aa-2a; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:54:05 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 05 Nov 2006 20:54:04 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: axiom for trigonometric functions again... Hello, @@ -19293,42 +11499,11 @@ Where can be the nice rewrite command trigo. to exp. added ? in sum.spad ? Long life to axiom. -Francois, in France. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo62-00010i-Ex - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo60-0000zY-4B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo5y-0000yj-EV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggo5y-0000yc-6Q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:54 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.24] (helo=smtp-msa-out07.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggo5x-00076Q-I0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:53 -0500 -Received: from [83.194.202.115] (ANancy-151-1-20-115.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr - [83.194.202.115]) - by mwinf0703.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 99C1C1000099 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:55:51 +0100 (CET) - - <454CD467.7080109@hpcf.upr.edu> - <1B703618-C362-4749-A92B-AF29354FA9C0@free.fr> -From: Raymond Manzoni -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:53:46 +0100 +From: Raymond Manzoni To: list -Cc: - - - - Hi, +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! This is a resume of the methods given here by Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga as I used them to get a working gcl and AXIOMsys (for people like me @@ -19412,44 +11587,11 @@ source now... (*) you may get an error in gcl_readline.d:221 (readline completion) I (hope temporarily...) just returned NULL; - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpJC-0002ef-AZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpJ8-0002aO-UC - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpJ7-0002Yd-7Y - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggp79-0003RP-O5 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:01:11 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggp79-0000HL-1p - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:01:11 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2233943nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; - b=MMs2i74FMlyV+N0nskFzyKbuqmHkLG0Cv+h1CbugYPypY0JkgONEOoZiqlcjJMzjYz5RAx6M/nRDCYqZ7FnjQ02Ek6SUHrhL5BxklpEdfCadal81GakoMvCF6GZrU8QLHsaeSDcpAYrB1tTSqUbldRfwF+hDrrx7wbmY/E1/Fms= -Received: by 10.48.226.2 with SMTP id y2mr3021907nfg.1162760469694; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) -Received: from morphism.heartland ( [62.14.113.80]) - by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9sm9683687nfc.2006.11.05.13.01.08; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:01:06 +0100 -From: "Juan M. Bello Rivas" +From: Juan Rivas To: list Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - <454CD467.7080109@hpcf.upr.edu> - <1B703618-C362-4749-A92B-AF29354FA9C0@free.fr> - <0AB76893-E550-4359-A47B-FDECACF8F17C@free.fr> - -Hi, On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:53:46PM +0100, Raymond Manzoni wrote: > darcs get http://page.axiom-developer.org/repository/axiom-darcs/ @@ -19462,33 +11604,10 @@ darcs get --set-scripts-executable http://page.axiom-developer.org/repository/ax then it won't be necessary to chmod +x configure. --- -Juan M. Bello Rivas - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpPg-0007Jm-Vo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:20:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpNx-0006Uc-Pp - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpNq-0006Oa-PN - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgpNq-0006OF-Cr - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgpNq-00045s-5z - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgpMv-0001V7-00 - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:17:29 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:17:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Axiom documentation and asq.c.pamphlet I just neticed that a large documentation hunk was copied almost @@ -19503,35 +11622,10 @@ replaced by text like: Database structure is described in [[src/interp/daase.lisp.pamphlet]]. Note that [[asq]] currently works only with compressed databases. - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggr9m-0003VS-Ok - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:12:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggr9j-0003Ro-Q0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggr9g-0003N6-V7 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggr9g-0003N3-Ra - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggr9g-00050D-Ei - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:56 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ggr8j-0000In-00 - for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:10:57 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:10:57 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: better pty patch Many systems (Linux, BSD and supposedly also Mac OS X) provide 'openpty' @@ -19706,46 +11800,11 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/sman/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/src SMANOBJS= ${LIB}/libspad.a - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggrk2-00082a-Mc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggrk0-0007zq-BS - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggrjx-0007ui-Ex - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggrjx-0007uT-8s - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:25 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggrjx-0004JT-BZ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:25 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA5NnCmp004194 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 18:49:20 -0500 -Received: (qmail 13032 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 23:49:05 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 5 Nov 2006 23:49:05 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA5NdCF20199; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 18:39:12 -0500 +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 18:39:12 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:17:29 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: Axiom documentation and asq.c.pamphlet -Cc: list > I just neticed that a large documentation hunk was copied almost > verbatim from 'src/interp/daase.lisp.pamphlet' into 'src/etc/asq.c.pamphlet' @@ -19767,36 +11826,11 @@ html style output. The information will certainly diverge (and you'll notice that they are structured differently) as I continue to change asq. The asq changes are not fully documented. Please have patience. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrkV-0000K6-Rv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrkU-0000HC-CF - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrkT-0000Fh-DE - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgrkT-0000FS-8M - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:57 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgrkT-0004Nx-7U - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:57 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.186.18]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 120F21C000D7; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:49:39 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Richard Harke Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:49:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 11:47 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : > I have been working my way through the book. The first version of @@ -19806,66 +11840,40 @@ Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 11:47 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : > (after a )clear all) ->=20 +> > (1) -> )read ribbons -> drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) =3D=3D -> sp :=3D createThreeSpace() -> num :=3D # flist -> yVar :=3D variable yrange -> y0:Float :=3D lo segment yrange -> width:Float :=3D (hi segment yrange - y0)/num +> drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) == +> sp := createThreeSpace() +> num := # flist +> yVar := variable yrange +> y0:Float := lo segment yrange +> width:Float := (hi segment yrange - y0)/num > for f in flist for color in 1..num repeat -> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, -> space =3D=3D sp) +> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, +> space == sp) ^ You have to indent this line (it will be be considered as a continuation of the previous line) or use an underscore (line continuation character), so: - makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, - var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, - space =3D=3D sp) + makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, + var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, + space == sp) or - makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, - var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color,_ - space =3D=3D sp) + makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, + var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color,_ + space == sp) With an underscore the indentation does not matter. I don't know if your code used to work in the past. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrtY-0003n5-7i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrtX-0003lm-57 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrtV-0003i5-Ev - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgrtV-0003hg-97 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:17 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgrtV-0005Vg-An - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:17 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.186.18]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6351D1C00098; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:59:00 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Richard Harke - <1162770558.15449.15.camel@ellipse> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:58:32 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book Le lundi 06 novembre 2006 =E0 00:49 +0100, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory a =E9crit : @@ -19875,37 +11883,10 @@ Le lundi 06 novembre 2006 =E0 00:49 +0100, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory a =E9crit : In fact there is an error in the book, the underscore does not need to be escaped. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgsLn-0007hB-2Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgsLl-0007h3-PQ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgsLh-0007gT-S9 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgsLh-0007gQ-P6 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:25 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgsLh-0002Vv-Hp - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:25 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA60SNh4005854 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:28:23 +0100 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:30:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Aldor compilation for Axiom Hello, @@ -19932,37 +11913,11 @@ library into Axiom. I just need a rough overview. -Thank you -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguMo-00011H-82 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguMn-00010S-ES - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguMl-0000xh-N5 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GguMl-0000xY-H6 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:39 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GguMl-0005S1-Gk - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA62bEEp027301; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:37:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Aldor compilation for Axiom Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:37:10 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Aldor compilation for Axiom On November 5, 2006 7:31 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -20043,39 +11998,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/book2.pdf I hope these comments are some some use. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgucX-0007t3-0P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgucV-0007q6-8K - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgucS-0007nX-Cz - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgucS-0007nK-9z - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:52 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgucS-0008QB-Cg - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:52 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA62rRZY026660; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:53:42 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:53:23 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Axiom documentation and asq.c.pamphlet -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:53:23 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 5, 2006 6:11 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > I just neticed that a large documentation hunk was copied @@ -20110,46 +12037,17 @@ is independent of whether asq produces HTML styly output or not. In reference to the underlying database structure I think you should use Waldek's version. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguuG-0002BE-6j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguuF-00029P-5u - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguuD-00026R-8T - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GguuD-00026K-3g - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GguuC-0003tM-Sj - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:13 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA63BqtF008662; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:12:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem, - "'Richard Harke'" Richard Harke -Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:11:41 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem, Richard Harke +Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book On November 5, 2006 6:59 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: ->=20 +> > In fact there is an error in the book, the underscore does not need > to be escaped. ->=20 +> Although it's small, so this kind of thing doesn't get lost in the email trash, as a matter of discipline can one of you submit a patch, @@ -20161,42 +12059,11 @@ or make the correction to the online version of the book? http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgvSB-0007es-1n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgvS9-0007eB-Bq - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgvS8-0007dq-As - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgvS8-0007dl-44 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.69] (helo=elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgvS8-0006Uv-3u - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:16 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=tw2M61ivMwVnjuCN9Xoi/j3PYPSJK3pBxgcr/mHo3y1v3KPxnATvKr6EYNiAel8X; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.172.99] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GgvS6-0001C1-Rq - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:15 -0500 +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 19:58:10 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 19:58:10 -0800 - <1162770558.15449.15.camel@ellipse> - charset="iso-8859-1" On Sun November 5 2006 15:49, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 11:47 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : @@ -20209,30 +12076,30 @@ On Sun November 5 2006 15:49, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > > > > > (1) -> )read ribbons -> > drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) =3D=3D -> > sp :=3D createThreeSpace() -> > num :=3D # flist -> > yVar :=3D variable yrange -> > y0:Float :=3D lo segment yrange -> > width:Float :=3D (hi segment yrange - y0)/num +> > drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) == +> > sp := createThreeSpace() +> > num := # flist +> > yVar := variable yrange +> > y0:Float := lo segment yrange +> > width:Float := (hi segment yrange - y0)/num > > for f in flist for color in 1..num repeat -> > makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> > var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, -> > space =3D=3D sp) +> > makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> > var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, +> > space == sp) > > ^ > You have to indent this line (it will be be considered as a continuation > of the previous line) or use an underscore (line continuation > character), so: > -> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, -> space =3D=3D sp) +> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, +> space == sp) > or > -> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color,_ -> space =3D=3D sp) +> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color,_ +> space == sp) > > With an underscore the indentation does not matter. I don't know if your > code used to work in the past. @@ -20245,11 +12112,11 @@ I am surprised that the second indenting is required as the line aboce is at the same nesting level, i.e. parameters to makeObject. When I try to execute with -drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. The session looks like -(2) -> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +(2) -> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) Loading /usr/lib/axiom-20050201/algebra/UPMP.o for package UnivariatePolynomialMultiplicationPackage Loading /usr/lib/axiom-20050201/algebra/SEG.o for domain Segment @@ -20288,38 +12155,11 @@ I'd be happy to try to debug this but I don't yet have a clue how to go about it. My intent was to learn how to use it first, then worry about changing/maintaining, etc. -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvkt-0003bO-Ap - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvks-0003bH-4P - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvkq-0003al-Jt - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggvkq-0003ai-DO - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:36 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.67] (helo=elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggvkq-0000cQ-2e - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:36 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=PY8LOzJL6tRXnxW7uOg64uQKLQHsA5rVVm9EENQqH9bkBfzttAUNUQ16yuImLTJp; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.172.99] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Ggvkn-0003SU-HF - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:33 -0500 +\start +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:17:29 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:17:29 -0800 - charset="iso-8859-1" On Sun November 5 2006 19:11, Bill Page wrote: > On November 5, 2006 6:59 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: @@ -20336,49 +12176,15 @@ On Sun November 5 2006 19:11, Bill Page wrote: > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book -There is also a surperfluous \ in the line num :=3D \# flist +There is also a surperfluous \ in the line num := \# flist I have editted the version per the above url, I think. First time I have tried this. -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvup-0000w2-Hr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvuo-0000u8-1B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvul-0000sS-B0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggvul-0000sP-40 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:51 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggvuk-0002Hc-VJ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:51 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA64GUeU029781 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:16:34 -0500 -Received: (qmail 11522 invoked from network); 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- Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:17:43 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:17:43 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Richard Harke - Harke on Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:17:29 -0800) Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book - <200611052017.29129.Richard Harke> - J_CHICKENPOX_55 -Cc: list fixed in axiom--silver--1 @@ -20464,37 +12238,11 @@ fixed in axiom--silver--1 y0:Float := lo segment yrange The first ribbon coordinate. width:Float := (hi segment yrange - y0)/num The width of a ribbon. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggw75-0002TE-De - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:29:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggw74-0002Ri-0Q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:29:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggw70-0002OH-Lv - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:29:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggw70-0002O5-EP - for list; 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First > time I have tried this. > Richard @@ -20521,52 +12269,20 @@ I guess I didn't. The following is the last thing I got Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. -The proxy server could not handle the request=20 +The proxy server could not handle the request POST /axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book. Reason: Error reading from remote server Additionally, a 502 Bad Gateway error was encountered while trying to use a= -n=20 +n ErrorDocument to handle the request. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgwKt-0008Hn-Ed - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgwKs-0008Fp-6I - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgwKq-0008DK-O3 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgwKq-0008DC-JI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:48 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgwKq-0006a0-GV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA64hgAU026840 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:43:42 -0500 -Received: (qmail 7039 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 04:43:43 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 6 Nov 2006 04:43:43 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA64Xqi20362; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:33:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:33:52 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Richard Harke - Harke on Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:40:24 -0800) Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book - <200611052017.29129.Richard Harke> - <200611052040.24426.Richard Harke> -Cc: list Richard, @@ -20580,40 +12296,10 @@ The proper procedure for making changes to the sources is: In this case I've already fixed the typos. Thanks for the report. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggx8J-0003QX-Vc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggx8I-0003Ph-0i - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggx8G-0003PM-Gl - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggx8G-0003PI-C6 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:52 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.191] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggx8G-0004iq-B2 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:52 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2375613nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=TVZXCwTnvZihrxn5QglmNZX3tttzlQBY7A2eNYPSGixPJSGKp0VfWjZdXrLjkocLUTu/ayLWiUHu+vANzwoatqiP/UI9hCwfNC3KDGTLkfdAeVjWEOy5EFgkwl2OWQggklwZJHamMcgLWi6jnHIkeEO71xY/0AhYTrpMIP21/TA= -Received: by 10.82.164.9 with SMTP id m9mr1215976bue.1162791290569; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:34:50 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page, - "Tim Daly" Tim Daly, - axiom-dev -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: Axiom Binaries I started working on the modifications to the @@ -20629,43 +12315,14 @@ for one page. I also want to add info from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SilverBinaries -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxAK-0006HR-0F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:37:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxAH-0006F2-Vb - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxAG-0006Cn-6P - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgxAG-0006Ck-3H - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:56 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.131] (helo=mail11c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgxAG-0004xz-0W - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:56 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail11c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA65aOgU008854; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:36:48 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:36:20 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: FW: [book] more verbatim # - - -----Original Message----- -From: Bill Page [mailto:mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org]=20 +From: Bill Page [mailto:mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org] Sent: November 6, 2006 12:27 AM To: MathAction Subject: [book] more verbatim # @@ -20675,90 +12332,56 @@ Subject: [book] more verbatim # ??changed: showRegion(vp,"on") Enclose in a box. -- n :=3D \# flist The number of ribbons -+ n :=3D # flist The number of ribbons +- n := \# flist The number of ribbons ++ n := # flist The number of ribbons zoom(vp,n,1,n) Zoom in x- and = z-directions. ??changed: - sp :=3D createThreeSpace() Create empty space = + sp := createThreeSpace() Create empty space = $sp$. -- num :=3D # flist The number of ribbons. -+ num :=3D # flist The number of ribbons. - yVar :=3D variable yrange The ribbon variable. +- num := # flist The number of ribbons. ++ num := # flist The number of ribbons. + yVar := variable yrange The ribbon variable. ??changed: - vl :=3D variables f The list of variables -- nv :=3D \# vl The number of = + vl := variables f The list of variables +- nv := \# vl The number of = variables -+ nv :=3D # vl The number of = ++ nv := # vl The number of = variables - nv > 1 =3D> error "Expression is not univariate." + nv > 1 => error "Expression is not univariate." ??changed: - arrowAngle : DFLOAT :=3D pi()-pi()/(20::DFLOAT) Local = + arrowAngle : DFLOAT := pi()-pi()/(20::DFLOAT) Local = variable 2 -- realSteps : INT :=3D 11 --\# real steps Local = +- realSteps : INT := 11 --\# real steps Local = variable 3 -- imagSteps : INT :=3D 11 --\# imaginary steps Local = +- imagSteps : INT := 11 --\# imaginary steps Local = variable 4 -+ realSteps : INT :=3D 11 --# real steps Local = ++ realSteps : INT := 11 --# real steps Local = variable 3 -+ imagSteps : INT :=3D 11 --# imaginary steps Local = ++ imagSteps : INT := 11 --# imaginary steps Local = variable 4 - clipValue : DFLOAT :=3D 10::DFLOAT --maximum vector length + clipValue : DFLOAT := 10::DFLOAT --maximum vector length ??changed: - bubbleSort!(m,f) =3D=3D -- n :=3D \#m -+ n :=3D #m + bubbleSort!(m,f) == +- n := \#m ++ n := #m for i in 1..(n-1) repeat ??changed: - insertionSort!(m,f) =3D=3D + insertionSort!(m,f) == - for i in 2..\#m repeat + for i in 2..#m repeat - j :=3D i + j := i --- -forwarded from -http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book#msg2006110523= -264 -9-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxDH-0000sE-OA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxDG-0000qb-Rr - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxDG-0000pw-5Z - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgxDG-0000pp-1N - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.29] (helo=mail209.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgxDF-0005Tp-SJ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail209.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA65de2c005617; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:39:54 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Richard Harke'" Richard Harke -Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:39:33 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Richard, +From: Bill Page +To: Richard Harke +Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book On November 5, 2006 11:40 PM you wrote: > > @@ -20796,39 +12419,11 @@ Sorry. It should be ok now. Please let me know if it happens again. Thanks for the edit. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxIl-0004y7-Ir - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxIj-0004wf-Ke - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxIh-0004wL-JH - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgxIh-0004wH-Dc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:39 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgxIh-0006Rq-AF - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA65jEW3007215; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:45:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: RE: Ping: file removals Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:45:05 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: Ping: file removals On November 5, 2006 2:03 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -20863,50 +12458,10 @@ Yes, I agree completely. > ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyAF-0001Ji-LW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyAE-0001J6-31 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyAA-0001GK-Ov - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgyAA-0001GB-KV - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:54 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgyAA-0005OY-GD - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:54 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA66ecSt018442 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:40:42 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16896 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 06:40:39 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 6 Nov 2006 06:40:39 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA66Unu20432; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:30:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:30:49 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) - J_CHICKENPOX_13, J_CHICKENPOX_17, J_CHICKENPOX_35, - J_CHICKENPOX_41, J_CHICKENPOX_42, J_CHICKENPOX_43, - J_CHICKENPOX_44, J_CHICKENPOX_45, J_CHICKENPOX_48, - J_CHICKENPOX_62, J_CHICKENPOX_74, J_CHICKENPOX_81, - J_CHICKENPOX_92 -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: [book] more verbatim # patched in axiom--silver--1 @@ -21210,41 +12765,11 @@ patched in axiom--silver--1 for j in 1..3 repeat m(j,i) := x.j - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyZj-0003nP-Lm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyZi-0003nK-DC - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyZh-0003n8-09 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgyZg-0003n5-Qr - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgyZd-0001Kr-4t - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:16 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA6775r1016912 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:07:06 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24633 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 07:07:06 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 6 Nov 2006 07:07:06 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA66vGe20457; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:57:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:57:16 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -Cc: list > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > code repository. @@ -21300,43 +12825,11 @@ against the fundamental project goals. Please look around, read and understand these goals. They've been written down and talked about at length both in this group and online at various places. -Tim - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggyzp-0007He-IE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggyzn-0007H6-Q8 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggyzl-0007Ga-Ia - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggyzl-0007GW-EM - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggyzl-00048Z-Ak - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:13 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ggyzd-0001S8-CM; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:34:05 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ggyzd-0005M4-9r; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:34:05 +0100 +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:34:04 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Aldor compilation for Axiom -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:34:04 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -21387,49 +12880,13 @@ Unfortunately, why. The signatures seem to get loaded, but calling a function makes axiom stumble. - - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgzUY-0000kj-SB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:06:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgzUW-0000jP-Ff - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:06:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgzUV-0000ih-Cs - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgzUV-0000ib-7b - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgzUU-0000yD-Nx - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0794F3D4; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:05:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA681JKv022205; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:01:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA681J8O022204; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:01:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Ping: file removals - <200611060657.kA66vGe20457@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -21474,42 +12931,13 @@ implementation then maybe: (1) there is more than one way to do it; or (2) your implementation is really questionable. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh2Iq-0006Gu-PH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh2In-0006Fz-8b - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh2Ij-0006EX-3M - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh2Ii-0006Ds-KX - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:00 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.186] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh2Ii-0002Jd-1R - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:00 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so1244353nfc - for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=VCJo+JqJ+PkjiRNZq5OPnWpIsKqZhAVt8/BS2VgdNohaOu2vUd2w5cXzL9O2R87ATHwsglgEN5KCPSUVwjuMIGgb+G/uYVtOIzLk/gZvGJDkudnIHBd1RVJ1A3q0GL/Prt7JbGRL4t6adjKLFUnr07mXgUpKL2S6PHPDocY1tbw= -Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr1242509bue.1162811158747; - Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:58 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 03:05:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 06:05:58 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Ping: file removals - <200611060657.kA66vGe20457@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list -On 11/6/06, root Tim Daly wrote: +On 11/6/06, Tim Daly wrote: > > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > > code repository. > @@ -21526,35 +12954,11 @@ not the SCM programs. I do not think this contradicts in any way the concept of LP and the Axiom goals. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4nS-0001Wq-Bn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4nP-0001Vp-AR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4nK-0001Tz-95 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh4nJ-0001Ts-F4 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:45 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh4nJ-00054o-0S - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:45 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gh4m8-00025b-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:44:32 +0100 -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -To: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:44:32 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals > > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > > code repository. @@ -21623,37 +13027,13 @@ Lisp is a "human oriented output"? We may wish to show some specimens of machine generated Lisp to illustrate how the compiler works, but the bulk of it belongs to a special ghetto. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4rw-0007J6-A4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4rt-0007FB-Ts - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4rp-00079e-Ou - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh4rp-00079D-Fn - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:25 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh4rp-0005hJ-FN - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:25 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh4rT-0003BT-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:03 -0500 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:50:03 -0500 -Cc: list -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > Camm, > @@ -21701,45 +13081,17 @@ configure.in and passed to the binutils subconfigures should remove the above. I.e. ./configure --prefix=... should work, if anyone has a moment to verify. -Take care, - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tU-0001Ai-TM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tR-00014T-SP - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tP-000110-7u - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tP-00010n-3t; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:03 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh4tP-0005ub-34; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:03 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh4tB-0003Br-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:51:49 -0500 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54u01hpzee.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454A7D73.5020004@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:51:49 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf Greetings and thanks! This should be in cvs now. Take care, -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: > Camm Maguire wrote: > > @@ -21778,39 +13130,11 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: > > --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4uP-0002hW-UR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:53:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4uO-0002fi-97 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:53:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4uJ-0002XG-Dd - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:53:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh4uJ-0002Wx-64 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:59 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.109] (helo=mail289.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh4uJ-0006CU-5h - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:59 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail289.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA6DqWns005358; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 08:52:48 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start +Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 08:52:26 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Ping: file removals -Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 08:52:26 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 6, 2006 1:57 AM Tim Daly wrote: > Bill Page wrote: @@ -21941,37 +13265,12 @@ the work they are doing is the only viable way forward. I agree with all of the goals but I disagree on a number of specific points about how you think we should achieve them. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh51O-0006Ai-D6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh51M-00067T-3s - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh51K-00064J-0u - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh51J-00063P-Dl - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:13 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh51I-0007Jv-Uo - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:13 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh50i-0003Iu-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:59:36 -0500 -To: Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: Bug#346552: naive methods of exiting axiom - can blow up catastrophically -From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:59:36 -0500 -Cc: list, 346552@bugs.debian.org, Tom Hargreaves +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: Bug#346552: naive methods of exiting axiom can blow up catastrophically +Cc: Tom Hargreaves Greetings, and thanks for looking into this! @@ -22032,45 +13331,10 @@ up but no console. Personally, I don't think it too egregious to terminate everything when the 'master' axiom sys (i.e. the first one opened') reads EOF. -Take care, - -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh52T-00074n-47 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh52O-00071t-OZ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh52N-00070h-Si - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh52N-00070M-Iq - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:19 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh52N-0007jI-3J - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:19 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh52M-0003JI-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 -0500 -To: Tim Daly -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: lastest tests Thank you so much Tim! The intl patch is in now. @@ -22080,7 +13344,7 @@ that important anymore, is sparc solaris. Take care, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > I did a checkout of > @@ -22105,44 +13369,12 @@ root Tim Daly writes: > successfully builds and saves on Fedora 6 > successfully builds and saves on RedHat 9 > successfully builds and saves on RedHat 7.2 -> -> t -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53y-0008OO-0x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53u-0008L5-MH - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53s-0008Im-DE - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53s-0008IP-3w; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:52 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh53r-0007v3-GK; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:51 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh53p-0003Jb-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:49 -0500 +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:02:49 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: lastest tests - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:02:49 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings, and thanks! I guess I must have beat you to it. Just a quick note -- when we do commit a bug fix to the proto-stable branch, @@ -22153,7 +13385,7 @@ Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis writes: -> root Tim Daly writes: +> Tim Daly writes: > > | I did a checkout of > | @@ -22161,45 +13393,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > | With the patch to remove the -lintl from h/powerpc-macosx.defs LIBS line > > I'll commit that patch to gcl-2.8.pre, and update axiom.build-improvements. -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh59x-000357-Dw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh59v-00032w-QX - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh59u-00030t-PT - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh59u-00030h-JQ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:06 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh59u-0000LI-Bp - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:06 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh59h-0003MN-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:08:53 -0500 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <5464dyc4j2.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454A91C7.1050404@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:08:53 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 May I suggest trying this entry from amd64-linux.h: @@ -22236,7 +13435,7 @@ Please keep me posted. Take care, -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: > Camm Maguire wrote: > @@ -22259,56 +13458,12 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: > > option is --disable-statsysbfd --enable-dlopen. > > Can I simply delete the cache sync code and try this? -> -> -- -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh5bu-0002pc-ME - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:38:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh5bt-0002nT-3o - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:38:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh5bo-0002eW-Pk - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:38:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh5bo-0002eC-HI - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:37:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh5bo-0005kj-Cy - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:37:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5854F44E; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:37:46 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6EXGEm028197; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:33:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6EXGC1028196; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:33:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 15:33:15 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Nov 2006 15:33:15 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -22325,55 +13480,17 @@ After GCL-2.6.8 is out (I hope we are reaching the end of the pressing issues this wee), could we make GCL head's configure wrok with Autoconf 2.52 and higher? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh61F-00028u-Sb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh61E-00026A-LF - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh619-0001wl-M5 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh619-0001wW-Hk - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:07 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh618-0000qq-S1 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:07 -0500 -Received: (qmail 9678 invoked by uid 7797); 6 Nov 2006 15:00:59 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.101663 secs); 06 Nov 2006 15:00:59 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 6 Nov 2006 15:00:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:03:42 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176 Camm Maguire wrote: > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from > both branches. This and the --disable-nls which is now in > configure.in and passed to the binutils subconfigures should remove -> the above. I.e. ./configure --prefix=3D... should work, if anyone has= +> the above. I.e. ./configure --prefix=... should work, if anyone has= > a moment to verify. @@ -22382,8 +13499,8 @@ I just tested with a new copy from CVS, and gcl compiles without problems= I used: -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --disable-statsysbfd --enable-locbfd ---enable-vssize=3D65536*2 --enable-maxpage=3D256*1024 --disable-x +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-statsysbfd --enable-locbfd +--enable-vssize=65536*2 --enable-maxpage=256*1024 --disable-x --disable-xgcl --disable-tkconfig I'll try to build an axiom with that later today. @@ -22391,63 +13508,13 @@ I'll try to build an axiom with that later today. Gaby, how current is the tarball in build-improvements? Have you included these patches? ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFT07VO8aX8Tqx8vgRAqhsAKCEROavyDMzxB8mLLDAQqkhScOb6wCgi8J4 -gif5z70kMBY0KAqRZ4mO3e4= -=63es ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6ED-0004oI-Kr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6EC-0004nS-Gk - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6EA-0004mE-Ao - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh6E9-0004lc-Nz - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:33 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh6E8-0003tg-JR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281864F466; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:17:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6FCj5n028868; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:12:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6FCjEJ028867; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:12:45 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:12:45 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Camm Maguire wrote: | > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from @@ -22478,44 +13545,12 @@ While composing this message, I fired the upgrade to the most recent GCL-2.6.8pre. Do you see any other patches that I may have forgotten that should go into build-improvements? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6RS-0003sc-0M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6RQ-0003ry-3P - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6RN-0003ov-MP - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh6RN-0003oo-Fe - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh6RN-0007uY-GR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:13 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B444F4A1; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:31:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6FQXMW029341; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:26:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6FQXql029340; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:26:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:26:33 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -22530,38 +13565,11 @@ of GCL-2.6.8pre. | Do you see any other patches that I may have forgotten | that should go into build-improvements? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6n0-0003kb-5K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6mz-0003k4-1Z - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6mu-0003jT-Cm - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6mu-0003jO-94; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:28 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh6mu-00022p-DU; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:28 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh6mr-0004Hd-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:25 -0500 +Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:53:25 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:53:25 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -22586,47 +13594,11 @@ configure.in and move to Makefile.am sources. But there is so much more that is more pressing than this, that the status quo has prevailed for some time. -Take care, - -> -- Gaby -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6pZ-0005SC-A6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6pX-0005RH-Vs - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6pT-0005PX-Ex - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh6pT-0005PU-4X - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:07 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh6pT-0002mS-1z - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:07 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh6p7-0004KF-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:55:45 -0500 +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:55:45 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:55:45 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings! If someone has a moment, could someone please explain to me the relationship between the various axiom branches, and which one is @@ -22637,7 +13609,7 @@ Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis writes: -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +> Humberto Zuazaga writes: > > | Camm Maguire wrote: > | > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from @@ -22669,53 +13641,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > that should go into build-improvements? > > -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7KE-0004CA-JY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7KB-00047d-08 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7K5-0003yZ-JR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh7K5-0003y9-Di - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:45 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh7K5-0006Fm-6P - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:45 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1130A41086; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:27:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6GN5q5030515; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6GN5uc030514; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:23:04 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <5464ds7eru.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:23:04 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -22752,40 +13683,11 @@ Yes. :-( I hope to have some students interested in GCL, research-wise. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7t2-0005ty-4h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7sy-0005pz-Mh - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7ss-0005kL-7f - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7sr-0005jt-TO; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:42 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh7sr-0005Ob-B6; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:41 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh7sp-000513-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:39 -0500 +Date: 06 Nov 2006 12:03:39 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <5464ds7eru.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 12:03:39 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -22831,51 +13733,19 @@ the needs of the students as well. Take care, > -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh8lm-0005zc-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh8lk-0005wl-83 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh8lf-0005oX-J0 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh8lf-0005o9-DA - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:19 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh8le-0005Il-Sf - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:19 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-21-21.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-21-21.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.211.21]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EF2E01C000D3; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 19:00:17 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Richard Harke - <1162770558.15449.15.camel@ellipse> - <200611051958.10480.Richard Harke> +\start Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:00:35 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 19:58 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : [...] > When I try to execute with -> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) > axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. I believe your version of Axiom has a bug which was recently fixed in @@ -22883,42 +13753,11 @@ silver and build-improvents, see: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-10/msg00582.html - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9TS-0000H4-3l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9TQ-0000G4-SM - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9TM-0000EE-Oq - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh9TM-0000EB-Mb - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:28 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.65] (helo=elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh9TM-00063q-PZ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:28 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=IXTxBBpVVqYrsMuT9e+pK1dKO6Hxs2UDN8I9iMrrBXeegJJJ0jo8pXV8DDmc2xGu; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.170.197] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Gh9TJ-0004sa-NJ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:25 -0500 +Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:56:20 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:56:20 -0800 - <200611051958.10480.Richard Harke> - <1162836035.3218.14.camel@ellipse> - charset="iso-8859-1" On Mon November 6 2006 10:00, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 19:58 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : @@ -22926,7 +13765,7 @@ On Mon November 6 2006 10:00, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > [...] > > > When I try to execute with -> > drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +> > drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) > > axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. > > I believe your version of Axiom has a bug which was recently fixed in @@ -22935,43 +13774,11 @@ On Mon November 6 2006 10:00, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-10/msg00582.html Quite right. That was an older version installed from Debian. On another machine installed from CVS this June, there is no problem. -Richard - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9kE-0005FE-Ab - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9kC-0005AB-B3 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9k9-00051z-BZ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh9k9-00051a-2j - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:49 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh9k8-00007A-1g - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA6J2VKQ019086 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:02:41 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30936 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 19:02:31 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 6 Nov 2006 19:02:31 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA6IqYn21067; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:52:34 -0500 + +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:52:34 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:44:32 +0100 (CET)) -Cc: list Subject: The 30 Year Horizon > Tim, first I must question your monopoly on stating Axiom goals. @@ -23106,12 +13913,6 @@ a snapshot of GCL and how "wrong" this is to subsume other projects imagine the outcry when Axiom swallows ACL2 in order to support a program proof technology, one of the stated goals. - - - - - - > Secondly, I read many times what you wrote about Axiom goals and > I find it still not clear -- there are nice dreams (which I share > with you) and implementation strategy (which I doubt will work). @@ -23149,47 +13950,13 @@ adoption of standards. Your car will be blindingly fast. But you've missed the goal. -Tim - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhAaZ-0004Yj-Ld - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhAaX-0004T4-Ly - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhAaW-0004PG-1b - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhAaV-0004Ot-R5 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhAaV-0001ar-Ia - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55C040E85; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:56:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6JqE8K002942; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:52:16 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6JqE9D002941; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:52:14 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200611061852.kA6IqYn21067@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 20:52:14 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: The 30 Year Horizon -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -23412,45 +14179,11 @@ echo "document [ -o redirect ] pamphlet" # set +x - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBJ7-00008R-At - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:43:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBJ4-00005Q-TP - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBJ4-0008Vm-4g - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBJ4-0008VU-0D - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBJ3-00013r-Ts - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360E51CFB0 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:54 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0081B764; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:52 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CC046DE03; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:48 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -23499,45 +14232,13 @@ However, there are basically three branches: * the third branch is by Antoine. It "looks" less active at the moment. I'm not really qualified to comment. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBMn-0004j8-6S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBMk-0004ip-FS - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBMj-0004ia-Vs - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBMj-0004iX-QM - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:45 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBMj-0001UO-Qm - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:45 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6743340F09; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:46:43 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6Kg58U004482; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:42:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6Kg5lr004481; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:42:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 06 Nov 2006 21:42:04 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -23567,37 +14268,11 @@ something. If the source code is complete, then there is no need to maintain the PDF format in the source core repository. That does not necesarily mean information is thrown away. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBo6-0007DD-JR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:15:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBo4-00078s-9s - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:15:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBo1-00073N-Mc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:14:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBo1-00072v-H4 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:14:57 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBo1-0006oW-E9 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:14:57 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GhBko-0007CE-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:11:38 -0500 +Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:11:38 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:11:38 -0500 -Cc: list Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -23655,54 +14330,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > > * the third branch is by Antoine. It "looks" less active at the > moment. I'm not really qualified to comment. -> -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBpC-0000uX-Bo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBpA-0000r4-Tw - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBp8-0000jo-7R - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBp7-0000jM-T7 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:05 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBp7-0006w6-Ng - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:05 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA6LFtW3004576 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:15:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16941 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 21:15:55 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 6 Nov 2006 21:15:55 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA6L60f21146; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:06:00 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:06:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 06 Nov 2006 20:52:14 +0100) - <200611061852.kA6IqYn21067@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list Subject: Re: The 30 Year Horizon Ok. Clearly I'm not getting my point across. @@ -23732,42 +14364,11 @@ Choose your own goals, create your own future. I'm stepping away from the lead developer role and will now act as just another developer. -Tim Daly - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDU6-0002br-Pz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDU5-0002Zt-PW - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDU3-0002Wx-SF - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhDU3-0002Wg-NS - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:27 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhDU2-0004LD-Kc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:26 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA6N2NwK029106 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:02:24 +0100 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:02:17 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Aldor compilation for Axiom -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Hello Bill, @@ -23858,47 +14459,13 @@ you suggested. Yes, definitely. Thanks a lot. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDcg-00081k-9L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDce-00080T-Du - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDcd-0007zk-6p - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhDcd-0007zg-3Y - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:19 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhDcb-00063T-S1 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:18 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B0E4F3B8; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:11:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6N6a7F008008; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:06:39 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6N6a8W008007; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:06:36 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200611061852.kA6IqYn21067@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611062106.kA6L60f21146@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Nov 2006 00:06:35 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: The 30 Year Horizon -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | Ok. Clearly I'm not getting my point across. | And we're not communicating. @@ -23912,51 +14479,11 @@ root Tim Daly writes: If you think people want you to step away, then clearly we're not communicating. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDoP-0004l9-Jg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDoN-0004gF-Ck - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDoM-0004dR-Hv - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhDoM-0004d2-6K - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:26 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhDoL-000160-VE - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFCD16DE; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:24 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 01937-02-2; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:23 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8170F179F; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:22 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4024C46DE19; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:19 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <547iy8xotx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -23977,52 +14504,12 @@ then it looks to me as if we would make 'official' axiom release tarballs from the "gold branch (which is not anywhere under SVN at the moment). --- Gaby - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhFYL-0005CU-LV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:15:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhFYJ-00058S-25 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhFYH-00056Z-Fc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhFYH-000563-77 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:57 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhFYG-00023R-O1 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:57 -0500 -Received: (qmail 8902 invoked by uid 7797); 7 Nov 2006 01:11:54 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.126378 secs); 07 Nov 2006 01:11:54 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 7 Nov 2006 01:11:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:14:31 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82 +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -24044,9 +14531,9 @@ and 2) $ svn diff src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet Index: src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +================= --- src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet (revision 252) +++ src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet (working copy) @@ -116,7 +116,7 @@ @@ -24066,53 +14553,10 @@ and fails with permission problems). I'll try to send Camm a patch (or at least a real bug report). ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFT93/O8aX8Tqx8vgRAgdrAKCcBNt819DM2/ekJKmd5I9UUKNJaACfeIGj -l0lcox42BO5CIfHvEGY6HJc= -=VfHd ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhHoU-0001z7-F2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhHoS-0001yE-KW - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhHoQ-0001wt-Rq - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhHoQ-0001wp-Ny - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.132] (helo=mail12c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhHoQ-0008WM-Ng - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:46 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail12c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA73dIxS004420; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:39:35 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:38:50 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: The 30 Year Horizon Tim, @@ -24185,38 +14629,10 @@ previous hard work and for your continued commitment to Axiom. I have no doubt that it will continue to be a benefit to many people over the next 30 years... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhIPu-0002lz-Ok - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhIPs-0002lV-Sx - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhIPr-0002l9-54 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhIPr-0002l6-26 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:27 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.135] (helo=mail15c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhIPq-0004je-SH - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:27 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail15c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA74HsUH007340; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:18:12 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:17:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: The 30 Year Horizon Tim, @@ -24374,36 +14790,11 @@ If we don't "energize people by showing rapid progress" and thereby attract new developers and new contributions, there is no way to achieve any of the goals that you have set for Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQbT-0000oV-Fw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQbQ-0000k7-Ea - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQbO-0000hy-Pe - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhQbO-0000hT-GA - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:54 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhQbN-0005rz-Ng - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:54 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhQaN-0007Wy-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:01:51 +0100 -Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... -To: Francois Maltey Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:01:51 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... Francois Maltey wrote: > In fact I try today to get a nice result for this exercice I'll give to my @@ -24430,38 +14821,14 @@ ElementaryFunctionStructurePackage? In principle rischNormalize should be able to do all possible trigonometric (and logarithmic) simplifications. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQs6-00030e-7l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQs4-00030K-Ig - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQs0-0002xO-3U - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhQrz-0002xL-VR - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:03 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhQrz-00020a-Q7 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:04 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhQqx-0000hu-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:18:59 +0100 -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:18:59 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > > [...] > @@ -24492,47 +14859,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > necesarily mean information is thrown away. > -Exactly. - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhS3m-0005pe-1I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhS3j-0005pX-Ta - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhS3i-0005p6-6Q - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhS3i-0005p3-1A - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:14 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhS3h-0003Bv-Mo - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:13 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00A24F41F; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:36:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7EVQFc021271; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:31:28 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7EVQ5u021270; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:31:26 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 07 Nov 2006 15:31:26 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom unsoundness -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 15:31:26 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -24574,43 +14905,11 @@ Even when we think the operation is meaningless, the system should try hard not to crash. In fact, the system can predict that the operation is nonsensical and issue appropriate message. --- Gaby - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhSGi-0001Wl-Iz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhSGg-0001Vh-NS - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhSGb-0001U3-Rc - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSGb-0001Tz-KQ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:33 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhSGb-0002Pa-Jn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:33 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GhSG6-0001tC-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:02 -0500 +Date: 07 Nov 2006 09:49:01 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <547iy8xotx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 07 Nov 2006 09:49:01 -0500 -Cc: list Greetings! Thanks! I'll give it a read. @@ -24636,46 +14935,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > then it looks to me as if we would make 'official' axiom release > tarballs from the "gold branch (which is not anywhere under SVN at > the moment). -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhTOg-0003CI-HH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhTOe-0003CD-P2 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhTOd-0003C0-2H - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhTOc-0003Bx-TW - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.64] (helo=mail244.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhTOb-00025R-WC - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:54 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail244.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA7G1R3a006763; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:01:44 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:01:18 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: FW: Pyrex and SAGE Axiom Developers, @@ -24694,11 +14958,8 @@ Regards, Bill Page. -----Original Message----- -From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com [mailto:sage-devel@googlegroups.com] - On Behalf Of William Stein Sent: November 7, 2006 5:00 AM -To: greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz -Cc: sage-devel@googlegroups.com +To: Greg Ewing Subject: [sage-devel] Pyrex and SAGE Hi Greg, @@ -24762,50 +15023,11 @@ available. So whatever you prefer it won't stop people interested in using Pyrex from potentially benefiting from any SAGE work on Pyrex. -Best regards, - - William Stein - Associate Professor of Mathematics - University of Washington - ---~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ -To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com -To unsubscribe from this group, send email to -sage-devel-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com -For more options, visit this group at -http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel -URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and -http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ --~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhWXT-0007cU-TQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhWXS-0007c5-26 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhWXQ-0007bg-Mq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhWXQ-0007bd-H8 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:12 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhWXQ-0007im-7y - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:12 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhWWQ-0000wA-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:22:10 +0100 -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:22:10 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | files created during build process, but version from repo is referenced @@ -24880,35 +15102,10 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/share/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/sr @ \eject - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhXdZ-0008L2-FP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhXdX-0008J5-Ua - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhXdW-0008Fx-3w - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhXdV-0008FR-K5 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhXdV-0004ry-E0 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:33 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhXcY-0006Rs-00 - for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:32:34 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:32:34 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: build-improvements and latex I tried again 'make dvi' in build-improvements. There are still three @@ -24982,42 +15179,11 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/etc/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/src/ \begin{abstract} \end{abstract} - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhY2y-0004Ns-4E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhY2w-0004L6-Nn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhY2s-0004Cj-E5 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhY2s-0004CZ-AZ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:46 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhY2s-0000OP-5r - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:46 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7KxhTC011041 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:59:43 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:59:49 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list I oppose against special treatment of .sty files. @@ -25029,9 +15195,6 @@ noweave file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext.pamphlet.tex remove ".pamphlet" and add ".tex". That rule seems to be a bit simpler than having to explain why .sty files must be treated separately. -Ralf - - On 11/07/2006 09:32 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > I tried again 'make dvi' in build-improvements. There are still three > problems: @@ -25110,28 +15273,10 @@ On 11/07/2006 09:32 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYR6-0007Sd-Pg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYR5-0007Rb-TI - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYR3-0007P8-RG - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhYR3-0007Ot-Lr - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:45 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhYR3-0005Fz-Bn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:45 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhYPz-0008Tl-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:23:39 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:23:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Bill Page wrote: > On November 3, 2006 2:16 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -25295,47 +15440,11 @@ case insensitive filesystems. \newcommand{\zeta}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/zeta.bitmap}} \newcommand{\bs}{\\} - - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYix-00047t-Jo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:38:23 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 07 Nov 2006 22:38:23 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 22:38:23 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -25378,43 +15487,11 @@ looks, we have to explain in the pamphlets (to people not versed in system programming), especially the faith of regexp.h and why we must use and remove the old macro interface. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYph-0006Hn-DO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:50:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYpf-0006HF-OU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:50:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYpc-0006GI-Dj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:50:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhYpc-0006G5-6g - for list; 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Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:32:31 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:32:31 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4550F3C5.30408@hemmecke.de> - - <455103BE.5030903@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:32:31 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -25699,38 +15690,11 @@ I thought your suggestion was Is that correct? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZeS-0008Pg-MV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZeQ-0008PL-Ox - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZeP-0008P6-TY - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZeP-0008P3-Pf - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:37 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZeP-0001Jy-FL - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:37 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7MgZTC014384 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:42:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:42:41 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list On 11/07/2006 11:17 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -25789,43 +15753,11 @@ the "top-level" chunks and which are the corresponding filenames for notangle. (I explicitly say notangle, since I still want to see my suggestion of adding ".tex" to obtain ".pamphlet.tex" for noweave.) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZfW-0000Ih-6A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZfU-0000IX-De - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZfT-0000IK-SU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZfT-0000IH-Ma - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:43 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZfT-0001PF-M1 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31E44F3BC; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:43:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7Md0j0000747; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:39:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7Md0OV000746; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:39:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:38:59 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:38:59 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -25864,53 +15796,22 @@ I would like to understand more Ralf's suggestion, because I got the impression that we already implemented what he is suggesting (but apparently no). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZhc-0002oW-DK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZha-0002m4-Gn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZhY-0002k9-I1 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZhY-0002jx-DO - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:52 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZhY-0001qy-CM - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9169067FA3; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:45:48 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A42DB67D10; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:45:46 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:45:42 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCusHeA8n1C3BZTvW21sEHwRNgGAAAcOGA From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > I oppose against special treatment of .sty files. -> >=20 +> > > > The general rule should be -> >=20 +> > > > notangle file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext > > noweave file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext.pamphlet.tex -> >=20 +> > > > remove ".pamphlet" and add ".tex". That rule seems to be > > a bit simpler than having to explain why .sty files must > > be treated separately. @@ -25919,8 +15820,8 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: I don't think what Waldek proposes amounts to "separate treatment". He is just observing that the existing name for the pamphlet file conflicts with the behaviour of latex. -=20 ->=20 + +> > Well, .sty files _are_ special (normal files do not contain > "self references"). @@ -25934,7 +15835,7 @@ and I think that is very natural because noweave always applies to the entire file. Normally, the filename part does not contain any dot. > And if you think about rule: ->=20 +> > notangle file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext notangle is completely different because it can either apply to @@ -25944,10 +15845,10 @@ this: notangle filename.pamphlet -R 'file.ext' > file.ext ->=20 +> > this _is_ alredy broken by many files (in 'src/hyper') when we > have ->=20 +> > file.pamphlet -> file.c > @@ -25955,10 +15856,10 @@ Is there a case like this? Maybe it should be written: notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.c' > file.c -With <>=3D defined appropriately. -=20 +With <>= defined appropriately. + > or ->=20 +> > /-> file.h > file.pamphlet -| > \-> file.c @@ -25968,53 +15869,24 @@ In this case I think it is really notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.h' > file.h notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.c' > file.c -=20 + Right? > I agree that you proposal is logical, but it is also clumsy: > .pamphlet extension is already pretty long and sticking on it > another extension will give very long files names. ->=20 +> I think the only convincing reason that Ralf gave for his convention for noweave was interaction with point-and-click in dvi. But this could be achieved through a different patch to srcltx. No? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZs7-00039y-FT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZs5-00039g-AT - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZs3-00038r-SN - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZs3-00038o-QJ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:43 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZs3-0003sC-MP - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:44 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7MudTC014747 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:56:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:56:40 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > | And I _suggested_ to change the current rule. @@ -26039,44 +15911,11 @@ both seen by TeX. Rather change the document script. - -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZwt-0005RO-Kq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZws-0005R8-BR - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZwq-0005Qr-Oq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZwq-0005Qm-If - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZwq-0004ot-3K - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32BB40F3D; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:01:37 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7MuuqE001468; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:56:59 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7MuuC6001467; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:56:56 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:56:51 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45510BE1.7050709@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:56:51 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -26103,42 +15942,11 @@ portability. In some places, it seems quite stringent in its demand names), and yet it cavalierly overlooks them (e.g. not all filesystems can handle filenames with more than on does in them). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gha27-0000wL-5S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gha24-0000s2-Er - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gha23-0000pw-8C - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gha23-0000pW-03 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gha22-0005W2-Iy - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5218640F45; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:07:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7N2Jp4001512; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:02:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7N2JdL001511; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:02:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 00:02:19 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 00:02:19 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -26194,38 +16002,11 @@ Yes, you're correct. I completely agree with that. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhaPZ-0006fl-S8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhaPY-0006fX-RX - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhaPK-0006dR-Ft - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhaPK-0006dO-9M - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:06 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhaPD-0007Pb-OI - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7NUUTC015659 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:30:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:30:36 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > I think the only convincing reason that Ralf gave for his > convention for noweave was interaction with point-and-click @@ -26258,46 +16039,15 @@ find . -name '*.*.pamphlet' Is there a plan to rename them all? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghal9-0006S6-Va - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghal8-0006R2-D9 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghal5-0006Qa-M8 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghal5-0006QO-GT - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:35 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghal5-0003GD-GQ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A497B67FD4; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:53:34 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5070665A05; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:53:33 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:53:31 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCvguVTMKSv6lqSZ6fKk/rFDXYOwAAJGXg From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On November 07, 2006 5:43 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 -> One suggestion could be to have particular chunk names that=20 +> ... +> One suggestion could be to have particular chunk names that > say what are the "top-level" chunks and which are the > corresponding filenames for notangle. @@ -26316,7 +16066,7 @@ make script I think it is better to make it obvious how the dependency is satisfied e.g. file.c: filename.pamphlet - document --tangle=3D'file.c' filename.pamphlet + document --tangle='file.c' filename.pamphlet would extract the chunk -R 'file.c' as a file named 'file.c' from the file 'filename.pamphlet'. Or see Gaby's stanza @@ -26335,21 +16085,21 @@ programming. On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:02 PM Gaby wrote: > ... -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> Bill Page wrote: > | Maybe it should be written: -> |=20 +> | > | notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.c' > file.c ->=20 +> > Yes, that is was it is written: ->=20 +> > $(builddir)/%.c: $(srcdir)/%.pamphlet -> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle --output=3D$@ $< +> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle --output=$@ $< I think with the current 'document' script that would have to be: $(builddir)/%.c: $(srcdir)/%.pamphlet - $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D$@ --output=3D$@ $< + $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=$@ --output=$@ $< because by default the --tangle option in 'document' will extract the root chunk. @@ -26359,50 +16109,21 @@ chunk name instead of begin derived from the pamphlet name. Then one could wrote: $(builddir)/%.c: $(srcdir)/%.pamphlet - $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D$@ $< + $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=$@ $< I.e. patch 'document' like this: if [ -z $output ]; then -- output=3D`basename $file .pamphlet`; -+ output=3D$chunk; +- output=`basename $file .pamphlet`; ++ output=$chunk; fi -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhawP-0007I1-Tf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhawL-0007Dr-LU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhawE-00075i-KB - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhawE-00075K-57 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:06 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghaw4-000608-Fh - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:04:57 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA804hTC016643 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:04:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:04:49 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with unescaped underscores > | inside. @@ -26431,38 +16152,11 @@ also into hyperlinks. (I don't like underscores. They cause problems in many places.) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghb8T-0004JC-F8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghb8S-0004HB-Ih - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghb8Q-0004EH-P0 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghb8Q-0004E0-Kg - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:42 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghb8Q-0007kv-CH - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:42 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80HeTC017016 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:17:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:17:46 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > It is possible to use srcltx even if we don't keep the > *.pamphlet.* part if we assume that all .dvi files are @@ -26487,56 +16181,25 @@ replaces the .tex extension of \CurrentInput by .pamphlet. Maybe that would be a solution. But it doesn't solve the axiom.sty.tex problem. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbA9-0007Xs-0a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbA7-0007UE-Cn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbA5-0007Pv-Lq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbA5-0007PY-Hb - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbA4-0007wP-Ho - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:24 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 16DF3680CB; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:19:24 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6B8AA67F1E; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:19:21 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:19:21 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCxNM6kDS+N7zSQaO/v7m31ye3EQAA4MXQ From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex -Ralf,=20 +Ralf, On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:31 PM you wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > What speaks so much against just adding .tex? > Portability? Look at the output of ->=20 +> > cd build-improvements > find . -name '*.*.pamphlet' ->=20 +> > Is there a plan to rename them all? ->=20 +> Ugh! You are right. Despite Gaby's implication, I can not think of any file system in use today where we might want to run Axiom @@ -26560,43 +16223,14 @@ In the mean time, I think just renaming axiom.sty as Waldek suggested is not so confusing, given the discussion in the rest of this thread. Maybe instead of 'axiom-sty.pamphlet' something like 'axiom-latex.pamphlet' might be a better name with -<=3D and possibly other latex-related chunks collected +<= and possibly other latex-related chunks collected in a single pamphlet file. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbBU-0002HC-9b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbBR-0002Bi-Az - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbBP-00028C-Rj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbBP-000281-LF - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:47 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbBP-000836-Bn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:47 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80KcTC017130 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:20:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:20:44 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/07/2006 10:45 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -26613,38 +16247,11 @@ On 11/07/2006 10:45 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Gaby, maybe the last sentence of mine was misleading. I meant: remove .pamphlet for notangle and add .tex for noweave. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbMO-0001ZY-Hw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbMN-0001Yc-8G - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbML-0001XC-VV - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbML-0001Wy-Jq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbMK-0001f5-So - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80W2TC017419 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:32:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:32:03 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > However pamphlet files with multiple chunks interact badly with > the make dependency processing since changing or adding a single @@ -26672,72 +16279,41 @@ place of a particular file (which is hidden in a .pamphlet file with another name). In that sense pamphlet files would not fit me as a human. Maybe I should change ... ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbTe-00055o-7y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbTa-0004yU-Bk - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbTY-0004vl-0h - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbTX-0004vT-Rn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:31 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbTX-0002uc-GZ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 770A667F5D; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:39:30 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0CE2167D4F; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:39:28 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:39:27 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCyeDCzyEqGfShTA+J4FYTB8zUqgAAsXag From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:05 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->=20 +> > Waldek wrote: > ... -> > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with=20 +> > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with > > | unescaped underscores inside. > ... > Gaby wrote: > > For problem (3), I'm awaiting for input from others. ->=20 -> The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet (from which probably=20 +> +> The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet (from which probably > axiom.bib.tex was generated). That is not really a .bib file. It > is a collection of filenames. And I would rather see that the > translated documentation has hyperlinks instead of references to > a "bibliography" that consists of filenames. ->=20 -> If someone thinks that axiom.bib.pamphlet is a file in good=20 +> +> If someone thinks that axiom.bib.pamphlet is a file in good > LP style, I have not understood what LP means. I support Ralf's view. The axiom.bib.pamphlet file doesn't make any sense to me. ->=20 +> > Underscores would be no problem at all if filenames where > properly tagged. Note that there is a latex package called url > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/url.sty) which provides a \path > command. Together with hyperref one can turn that also into > hyperlinks. ->=20 +> I like this idea but I think it might need more thought. How do we want to present this large collection of Axiom documentation @@ -26745,54 +16321,22 @@ files to a user? How will they navigate? How will this interact, or will it interact with hyperdoc? Will they be searchable? What is better, dvi or pdf? Etc. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbiw-0000lT-W7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbiv-0000km-6Y - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbit-0000k0-Hz - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghbit-0000jv-Ar - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:23 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghbit-0005bH-B8 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3805B67F1E; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:22 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5DFA267E18; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:19 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCzVi0tqfj5QziSYqg/q/fnZW2PAAAc/tQ From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:32 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I agree that LP suggests to think in terms of logical units for > humans, but on the other hand I am still a bit old-fashioned > (and maybe also human), since I would have hard times to look > in the file system for the place of a particular file (which is > hidden in a .pamphlet file with another name). In that sense -> pamphlet files would not fit me as a human.=20 +> pamphlet files would not fit me as a human. > Maybe I should change ... ;-) ->=20 +> :-) That is definitely not "new think". There are many places in the Axiom source where you already must do this, e.g. the @@ -26805,44 +16349,16 @@ think you would know enough to check the Makefile to see how this file is generated. But it might well be convenient if there was a nice wrapper for - grep '<>=3D' *.pamphlet + grep '<>=' *.pamphlet along the lines of what Martin Rubey wrote for the *.spad.pamphlet files. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbm8-00023l-Ud - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbm7-00022e-UA - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbm4-0001y1-8b - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghbm3-0001xi-VA - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:40 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghbm3-00066Z-Tj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:40 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80wZTC018377 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:58:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:58:41 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list >> Underscores would be no problem at all if filenames where >> properly tagged. Note that there is a latex package called url @@ -26874,32 +16390,10 @@ after all. And before I invest time there I would rather like to know in advance what other peoples dreams are. So that I don't have to throw away my stuff in the end. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcN8-0006lG-W6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcN8-0006l8-37 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcN6-0006kG-GW - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhcN6-0006k7-D3 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhcN6-0004G0-Bf - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:56 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhcM9-00024X-00 - for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:35:57 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 02:35:57 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: PRECIOUS and Rosetta I wrote that there are three problem latexing build improvement @@ -26926,61 +16420,24 @@ hot topic but we should do something: apply the patch, skip noweb run on plain tex or add noweb filter to protect [[ combination (or maybe something else). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcZH-0006WC-4Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcZG-0006W7-Eu - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcZG-0006Vr-0d - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhcZF-0006Vm-QZ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GhcZF-0008S1-Sj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:30 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhcZ6-0008Nh-Ij - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C1207680DD; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:49:19 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1A87467FE1; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:49:17 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:49:15 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: AccCsyeuDwMgrFHXT0mSJweuVuYJngAI19Eg From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I propose: rename capital Greek letters according to > Bill Page proposal. Adjust 'util.ht' to match (all other > hypertex pages should access Greek letters only via macros -> defined in 'util.ht'). =20 -> Next, remove 'ATX=3DB.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. ->=20 +> defined in 'util.ht'). +> Next, remove 'ATX=B.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. +> > Those changes should solve problems with duplicate filenames on > case insensitive filesystems. ->=20 +> > --- build-improvements.pp/src/hyper/pages/util.ht=09 > 2006-11-02 18:27:39.000000000 +0100 > +++ build-improvements/src/hyper/pages/util.ht=09 @@ -27011,7 +16468,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > +\newcommand{\Lambda}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/Lambda-cap.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\large}{} > \newcommand{\ldots}{...} -> \newcommand{\le}{<=3D} +> \newcommand{\le}{<=} > @@ -282,41 +282,41 @@ > \newcommand{\nabla}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nabla.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\nu}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nu.bitmap}} @@ -27061,7 +16518,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > +\newcommand{\Xi}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/Xi-cap.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\zeta}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/zeta.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\bs}{\\} -> =20 +> Great. I think this patch should go in as a priority since at this time Axiom developers on a MAC still can not use svn to get Axiom. @@ -27072,44 +16529,11 @@ latex files already but in this case they are also source files for hyperdoc. Would including these files as chunks in a pamphlet file present any technical problem to noweb? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcqu-0000LP-SA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcqs-0000IO-1R - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcqq-0000Gv-Pb - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghcqq-0000Gc-EU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghcqq-0002IW-1x - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:40 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA827MxX023496 - for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:07:30 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14900 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2006 02:07:22 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 8 Nov 2006 02:07:22 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA81vQP22261; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:57:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:57:26 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list > But I almost hesitate to ask the following: Why aren't the files > in src/hyper/pages in pamphlet format? Well, ok, they do look like @@ -27119,50 +16543,21 @@ Cc: list I never got the time to convert them. They should be. --t - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcw4-0006Gg-Cn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcw2-0006EJ-N3 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcw1-0006D8-Qq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghcw1-0006D0-Nb - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:01 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghcw1-0003Ei-Hw - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:01 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id F320D6829E; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:12:56 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 491A1681D3; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:12:56 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: PRECIOUS and Rosetta Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:12:55 -0500 -Thread-Topic: PRECIOUS and Rosetta -Thread-Index: AccC1mb8YYq/tv0ySj6RuEAeOr37WQAA44kg From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: PRECIOUS and Rosetta On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:36 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > The Latex error is that noweb garbles Rosetta.pamphlet and Latex > fails. I reported this prevoisly and Bill Page provided a patch: ->=20 +> > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-10/msg00450.ht ml ->=20 +> > The patch I got is probably garbled by mail (in repo '\\' > combination appears at the end of lines, while in the patch it > is at begining next line), but otherwise it looks good. @@ -27171,12 +16566,12 @@ Here is a good copy of the patch http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/rosetta.patch -But invoke the right to change my opinion... ;)=20 +But invoke the right to change my opinion... ;) > I understand that it is still hot topic but we should do something: > apply the patch, skip noweb run on plain tex or add noweb filter to > protect [[ combination (or maybe something else). ->=20 +> Maybe "skip noweb run on plain tex" makes good sense if all files are processed by the 'document' command. Really I cannot think of any good @@ -27185,43 +16580,11 @@ probably it's name should just be changed to rosetta.tex and 'document' changed so that it does not preprocess files with noweave if the file already has a .tex extension. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdAW-0001pL-Gp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:28:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdAV-0001pG-0g - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdAS-0001p1-5o - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdAS-0001oy-0j - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdAR-000650-UX - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0498640F59; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:27:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82NBR8005271; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:23:14 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82NBEj005270; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:23:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:23:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:23:11 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27284,43 +16647,11 @@ However, for header files, the rules look like this: this is when $chunk is specified. That is doable. We just have to check when it is not specified and use the other rule. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdDG-00041R-BI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdDF-00040r-By - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdDD-0003zF-H5 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdDD-0003z0-CU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:47 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdDD-0006md-1U - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:47 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2511940E85; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:30:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82Q3K3005275; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:26:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82Q3ng005274; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:26:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:26:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551171C.5070609@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:26:03 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -27342,42 +16673,11 @@ take it seriously. Given recent discussions, I would wait till the dust gets down. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdH8-0008NK-Ai - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdH4-0008J5-St - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdH2-0008GS-IK - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdH2-0008G6-Cv - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdH2-0007It-8n - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71A34F3C1; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:34:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82U0rP005437; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:30:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82U0nN005436; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:30:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:30:00 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:30:00 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27394,43 +16694,11 @@ Use the move-if-change script. It is on the list of things to do for build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdKX-0003k7-MI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdKV-0003iA-LF - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdKU-0003gr-5V - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdKT-0003ge-Sv - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:17 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdKT-0007Zu-PW - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:18 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58540ED6; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:38:14 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82XX54005463; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:33:36 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82XXYB005462; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:33:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:33:33 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512583.10003@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:33:33 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -27459,42 +16727,11 @@ intermediate files, it becomes very very messy. Fire! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdNy-0006mO-1B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdNv-0006lY-UO - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdNv-0006lC-8Y - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdNv-0006l4-3E - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdNu-00082c-Up - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC13741085; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:41:47 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82b71J005467; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:37:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82b7rJ005466; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:37:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:37:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:37:06 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27543,43 +16780,11 @@ We still need to links to references sections in other files. PDF has my vote. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdQY-0008Qn-Pz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdQX-0008Qi-6M - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdQV-0008QJ-NF - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdQV-0008QG-Jq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdQV-0008MJ-KQ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E21D40F05; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:44:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82dlQi005561; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:39:50 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82dl2M005560; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:39:47 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:39:47 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:39:47 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -27622,42 +16827,11 @@ I really disliuke duplicating documentation for no good reasons. But, I don't know what ALLPROSE looks like in practice (sorry, I cannot do everything...) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdTi-0000Ub-BU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdTh-0000UO-2o - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdTf-0000UC-Kq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdTf-0000U9-Hw - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:47 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdTf-00009i-HH - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:47 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7949641085; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:47:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82h3rX005568; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:43:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82h3mk005567; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:43:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:43:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: PRECIOUS and Rosetta -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:43:03 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -27677,65 +16851,34 @@ I would like to see your candidates for removal before I say anything. I don't see a blank rule for removing "most .PRECIOUS" rules yet. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheHT-00069J-4R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheHR-00068t-C0 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheHQ-00068h-F6 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GheHQ-00068e-C2 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:12 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GheHQ-0007F7-AY - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 93133683EF; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:39:11 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 2D324683EE; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:39:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:39:09 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccC33hT+y/XxGdSTzSCmOn8yp3abAAA0a2w From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex ->=20 +> > | On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:05 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> | >=20 +> | > > | > Waldek wrote: > | > ... -> | > > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with=20 +> | > > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with > | > > | unescaped underscores inside. > | > ... > | > Gaby wrote: > | > > For problem (3), I'm awaiting for input from others. -> | >=20 +> | > > | > The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet > | ... > Bill Page wrote: -> |=20 +> | > | I support Ralf's view. The axiom.bib.pamphlet file doesn't make > | any sense to me. On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:37 PM Gaby wrote: ->=20 +> > So, what concretly do you propose as course of action? ->=20 +> I propose that we remove axiom.bib.pamphlet. @@ -27754,7 +16897,7 @@ place and format for bibliographic references. Citations of pamphlet files which are local are generally by the name. For example, [[asq.c.pamphlet]] would be cited using -[[\cite{asq.c}]].=20 +[[\cite{asq.c}]]. -------- @@ -27772,48 +16915,15 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/book--main--1/Endpaper3 which contains hyperlinks in the graphics. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheiJ-0008Lz-TJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheiH-0008LO-Bm - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheiF-0008LB-Ur - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GheiF-0008L8-MI - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GheiF-0003Y6-9d - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id F3C6168336; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:06:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0806566FD2; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:06:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:06:55 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccC0Qo4mXB9uBqyT2uB/HehRmDdoAAFvgng From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke, - Bill Page -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:59 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 -> I have a simple suggestion. Forget the Axiom user for a=20 +> ... +> I have a simple suggestion. Forget the Axiom user for a > moment. First we need to have good documentation for developers. > A user probably cares most about the "algebra" subdirectory. > I don't care too much about interaction with hyperdoc and such. @@ -27824,20 +16934,20 @@ Or rather hyperdoc should be replaced with a web browser interface that would integrate with the dvi/pdf files including hyperlinks between them. ->=20 +> > My dream would be to have for each bigger unit one document > (which is .dvi, .pdf or .html -- you have already seen in > ALLPROSE that it is not so hard to generate different output > formats). By "bigger unit" I approximately mean the subdirectories > in src. Such a document would be similar to the ALLPROSE stuff -- > hyperlinks here and there. ->=20 -> The question is whether other Axiom developers would like it=20 +> +> The question is whether other Axiom developers would like it > or whether there are other suggestions we could agree upon. It's > a lot of effort after all. And before I invest time there I would > rather like to know in advance what other peoples dreams are. So > that I don't have to throw away my stuff in the end. ->=20 +> Ralf, I appreciate that you have put a lot of work into ALLPROSE but when I look at it I see a tool that seems more suitable to @@ -27855,71 +16965,35 @@ but includes "cloning" which actually creates a lattice and makes it possible to create different "views" of the same information without duplicating content. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghfkm-00037O-AM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghfkk-00037A-2u - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghfki-00036t-H4 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghfki-00036p-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghfki-0005Ry-5g - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghfkh-0006kY-Ey - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E3B7068D1D; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:13:30 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 93D1468D1C; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:13:29 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:13:36 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccC33hT+y/XxGdSTzSCmOn8yp3abAAA0a2wAARDOGA= From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:39 PM I wrote: > ... ->=20 +> > I propose that we remove axiom.bib.pamphlet. ->=20 +> > There is no axiom.bib.tex as far as I can tell - only axiom.bib. ->=20 +> > But the idea of including citations to pamphlet files seems ill- > conceived to me. There is no documentation in the axiom.bib.pamphlet > file itself but in src/doc/Makefile.pamphlet we can read: ->=20 +> > -------- ->=20 +> > \section{The bibtex stanza} > Axiom pamphlet files have citations. We collect all of the > pamphlet file citations into this one file so we have a standard > place and format for bibliographic references. ->=20 +> > Citations of pamphlet files which are local are generally by the > name. For example, [[asq.c.pamphlet]] would be cited using -> [[\cite{asq.c}]].=20 ->=20 +> [[\cite{asq.c}]]. +> > -------- I see also \cite mentioned here in the FAQ file: @@ -27930,7 +17004,7 @@ FAQ 11: How do I add a new pamphlet file ... You must also modify src/doc/axiom.bib.pamphlet to include -the file. Axiom uses bibtex to cross-reference the various=20 +the file. Axiom uses bibtex to cross-reference the various pamphlet files. The normal method of citing a file involves just using the name, for example \cite{asq.c} will build a citation to the ./src/etc/asq.c.pamphlet file. @@ -27942,54 +17016,21 @@ You must include the following two lines in your pamphlet file: --------- ->=20 +> > But as far as I can tell this method is not actually used in any > other pamphlet file. Looking at the contents of axiom.bib I see > many non-unique entries. Further, I don't see how this would work > in the case where there are multiple root code chunks in a single > pamphlet file (e.g. algebra/*.spad.pamphlet). ->=20 +> Am I wrong about this? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiM2-0008LN-5i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiM0-0008Kq-6N - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiLy-0008Jg-B7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhiLy-0008Jd-7O - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhiLx-0000Sa-G3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:09 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiLs-00024Z-56; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:00:04 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiLs-0000n0-3r; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:00:04 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:00:03 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:00:03 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -28074,46 +17115,11 @@ trees := structures(l)$BinTree ## enjoy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -Martin - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiSJ-0004HU-Sq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiSI-0004G7-DR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiSG-0004ED-OA - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhiSF-0004Dp-Tl - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:40 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhiSF-0001i5-Bk - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:39 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiS9-0002ov-3J; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:06:33 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiS9-00031X-0x; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:06:33 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:06:31 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551171C.5070609@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:06:31 +0100 -Cc: list Dear all, @@ -28135,41 +17141,11 @@ press C-c C-c - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiWo-0002Em-Ta - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiWn-0002Bm-Iy - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiWn-0002AL-0m - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhiWm-0002AB-UF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:20 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhiWm-00028E-Kp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:20 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiWl-0003R0-FV; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:11:19 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiWl-0001E7-C2; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:11:19 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:11:17 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551171C.5070609@hemmecke.de> <9qmz72qs54.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:11:17 +0100 -Cc: list I pressed C-c C-c in gnus, not in the pamphlet... Sorry, continuation below @@ -28214,40 +17190,11 @@ I fail to see a reason why simply adding the tex is a bad idea. But very often in this Makefile business I only know half of the story, so please don't be angry with me. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjPO-0000pT-Kp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjPN-0000pM-Or - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjPM-0000p1-Q1 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhjPM-0000or-Kp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:44 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhjPM-0001sR-2H - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:44 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA897dTC031012 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:07:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:07:50 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: On 11/08/2006 03:39 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -28307,39 +17254,11 @@ are organised so that the build process gets simple. Also note that all newer dvi viewers allow to search inside .dvi files. You can forget about grep. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjc1-0005wm-OG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjc0-0005vU-PH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjbz-0005uV-Iy - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghjbz-0005uD-Bc - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:47 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghjby-0003Bc-06 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:46 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA89KaTC031284 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:20:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:20:48 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list >> | > The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet @@ -28360,42 +17279,11 @@ database of references on the internet and one only has to know a unique key into that database to extract all relevant information needed for a printed version. But up to then .bib files are of some use. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjmi-00044k-74 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjmg-00042q-Uo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjmf-0003zD-4q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghjme-0003z3-CV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:48 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghjme-0005vM-5r - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:48 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ghjmc-0003ui-NP; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:31:46 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ghjmc-0006I8-L2; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:31:46 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 10:31:44 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551A170.9000206@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 10:31:44 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -28416,40 +17304,11 @@ In fact, in my community this is standard now. But I guess you know that? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjpN-0007ll-Hs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjpL-0007lW-LC - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjpI-0007l6-Nm - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhjpI-0007l3-KK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:32 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.65] (helo=elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhjpI-00066i-M9 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:32 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=be4mkzikzWbrxmf5fHIbR2M3006uZPmRR1OjYYFFnsH3fFFnCsvFaW2hOwLhZrFx; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.159.23] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GhjpH-0001cE-L3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:31 -0500 +Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:45:29 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:45:29 -0800 - charset="utf-8" -Subject: Re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom source - code distribution +Subject: Re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom source code distribution On Tue November 7 2006 23:05, billpage wrote: > Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDeveloperFAQ/diff @@ -28467,37 +17326,11 @@ On Tue November 7 2006 23:05, billpage wrote: > On my ia64 debian-linux workstation, apt-get refuses to install xlibs-dev. I think I have gotten around this by installing libxt-dev -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjvm-0000nU-Q4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjvk-0000mn-Oo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjvj-0000mO-N3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghjvj-0000mF-F6 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.70] (helo=elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghjvj-0006l1-AF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:11 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=L72FuuoCT4v2TMYPCO+kO7k417GiL12nYpBlO9Ylx8txSVyVHmQQTdN2oXupRo6a; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.159.23] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GhjvT-0006Au-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:40:55 -0500 + +\start +Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:51:48 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:51:48 -0800 - charset="us-ascii" Subject: GCL loader option I'm attempting to build the build-improvements branch on linux-ia64 @@ -28510,38 +17343,11 @@ choice into the build process. This seems to be coming from configure for gcl-2.6.8pre -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghk7y-0002zA-R6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghk7v-0002vb-Mu - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghk7t-0002ul-JY - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghk7s-0002uU-Qm - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:44 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghk7s-0008K6-MR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:45 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA89rZTC032143 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:35 +0100 +\start Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:47 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > I think perhaps the pamplet files should interact with hyperdoc. Or > rather hyperdoc should be replaced with a web browser interface that @@ -28612,49 +17418,11 @@ one unit, it also has influence on another "view" where this unit is used. So my current position is a bit hesitant although I like this "multiple-views" thing. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkNx-0003nK-DJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkNu-0003kh-BI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkNp-0003g4-Fa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhkNo-0003fZ-0n - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:12 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhkNn-0002u6-4Z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:11 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30492 invoked by uid 7797); 8 Nov 2006 10:07:04 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.132209 secs); 08 Nov 2006 10:07:04 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 8 Nov 2006 10:07:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:09:42 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -28664,57 +17432,17 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > not using it for an evolving system -- which by definition is buggy. > By the minutes you have to deal also with the generated and > intermediate files, it becomes very very messy. ->=20 +> > Fire! I've used the "-L" notangle option to great effect when writing C code with noweb. Even gdb can find the proper source lines. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFUaztO8aX8Tqx8vgRAr7VAJ9pqCQEPc8Ya7fC/B8bpkAlWKQdEACgqwZV -iBsE7JO2C2gVCZdYLWplXIY= -=jh7C ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkOR-000484-Po - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkON-00046O-TO - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkOL-00044W-Iq - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhkOK-00043z-AL - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:44 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhkOI-0003BC-G2 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:44 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhkNC-0004dh-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:09:34 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:09:34 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -28835,42 +17563,11 @@ of those files would require adding logical markup. OTOH I am not sure if we want to maintain NAG manuals at all -- if we switch to a different numerical library we need different manuals. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkb9-0002yC-9j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkb7-0002vq-Ds - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkb5-0002u0-HG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghkb5-0002ta-8Y - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghkb4-0005mo-RI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:55 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8ANdTC000509 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:39 +0100 +\start Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:23:50 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - - <4551ACE6.7040508@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list On 11/08/2006 11:09 AM, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -28897,34 +17594,11 @@ according to filetypes is probably ok, there are not too many types around. But I would like to see no exceptions to general rules on a per-file basis. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkeH-0007Da-Vx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkeF-0007Bl-OA - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkeC-00077r-Tx - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhkeC-00077a-OO - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:08 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhkeC-0006iy-LC - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:08 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ghkd6-0006TT-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:26:00 +0100 -Subject: Re: PRECIOUS and Rosetta -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:25:59 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: PRECIOUS and Rosetta > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -28954,60 +17628,24 @@ ATM most Makfiles (and 'config/setup-dep.mk) contain rules of the sort: I think that blank .PRECIOUS is may be justified _only_ for self-modifying Makefiles. All other files need strong justification. - - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkf8-0008F4-9u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkf6-0008Bs-9w - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkf5-0008AS-CU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghkf4-0008A8-UX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:02 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghkf4-0006qL-Qp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:03 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 22F6868ED5; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:28:02 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 42D0D68E61; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:28:01 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: GCL loader option +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:28:00 -0500 -Thread-Topic: GCL loader option -Thread-Index: AccDGg1B4QAXUz/WSByxvcm6+A/EngAACMGg From: Bill Page -To: "Richard Harke" Richard Harke -Cc: list +To: Richard Harke +Subject: RE: GCL loader option On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:52 AM Richard Harke wrote: ->=20 +> > I'm attempting to build the build-improvements branch on linux-ia64 > build stops with message -> Exactly one loader option must be chosen: dlopen=3Dyes statsysbfd=3Dno -> dynsysbfd=3Dno locbfd=3Dyes custreloc=3Dno ->=20 -> I have only a vague idea of what these mean and no idea how=20 +> Exactly one loader option must be chosen: dlopen=yes statsysbfd=no +> dynsysbfd=no locbfd=yes custreloc=no +> +> I have only a vague idea of what these mean and no idea how > to make the choice into the build process. ->=20 +> > This seems to be coming from configure for gcl-2.6.8pre ->=20 +> Apparently the build-improvments ./configure script does not find bfd.h and libbfd on your system so it chooses to try to build gcl @@ -29020,10 +17658,10 @@ options to use with gcl. I suggest: $ tar xzf ~/build-improvements/zips/gcl-2.6.8pre.tgz $ cd gcl-2.6.8pre -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --disable-dlopen = +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-dlopen = --disable-statsysbfd \ ---enable-locbfd --enable-vssize=3D65536*2 --enable-maxpage=3D256*1024 \ +--enable-locbfd --enable-vssize=65536*2 --enable-maxpage=256*1024 \ --disable-x --disable-xgcl --disable-tkconfig $ make $ make install @@ -29031,78 +17669,46 @@ $ make install If that succeeds, then continue with build-improvements using $ cd ~/build-improvments -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --with-gcl +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-gcl $ make -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlDB-0004vq-7H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlD9-0004u6-HK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlD8-0004tn-Of - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhlD8-0004tk-Ky - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:14 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhlD8-0004YD-42 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:14 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AC10B68F71; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:03:13 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 7E52668F06; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:03:12 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:03:10 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDDX6pz68m4TpVSPubSi4uQQo7CAAAMcvQ From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:11 AM Martin Rubey wrote: ->=20 -> I pressed C-c C-c in gnus, not in the pamphlet... Sorry,=20 +> +> I pressed C-c C-c in gnus, not in the pamphlet... Sorry, > continuation below > What is 'gnus'? -=20 + > Martin Rubey writes: ->=20 -> >=20 +> +> > > > Ralf Hemmecke writes: -> >=20 +> > > > > What speaks so much against just adding .tex? -> >=20 -> > I'd also speak in *favour* of simply adding .tex. It makes=20 -> > life easier also in other places:=20 -> >=20 -> > ### The following is only for those who use auctex in emacs=20 +> > +> > I'd also speak in *favour* of simply adding .tex. It makes +> > life easier also in other places: +> > +> > ### The following is only for those who use auctex in emacs > > for latexing!) ### -> >=20 -> > I use auctex and added a dead simple "document" command.=20 +> > +> > I use auctex and added a dead simple "document" command. > > Thus I can visit a pamphlet file (for example, by clicking in > > HyperDoc on INT.spad) -> >=20 +> > > > make some changes -> >=20 +> > > > press -> >=20 +> > > > C-c C-c ->=20 +> > enter document What does your 'document' command do? @@ -29110,16 +17716,16 @@ What does your 'document' command do? I presume that it runs noweave and latex to create the dvi file? ->=20 +> > press C-c C-c again ->=20 +> > auctex proposes "View". But of course, the parameter is wrong, > it is ->=20 +> > name.pamphlet.dvi ->=20 +> > instead of ->=20 +> > name.dvi > @@ -29136,14 +17742,14 @@ Perhaps you can somehow configure emacs so that .pamphlet is similar to .tex as an extension and should be ignored when proposing the parameter for tex-view? -=20 + > -------------------------------------------------------------- ->=20 +> > I fail to see a reason why simply adding the tex is a bad idea. ->=20 -> But very often in this Makefile business I only know half of=20 +> +> But very often in this Makefile business I only know half of > the story, so please don't be angry with me. ->=20 +> I do not think "anger" would be appropriate here... :-) @@ -29176,42 +17782,11 @@ I would give the following reasons why it is bad: Ok I admit that reasons 2) and 3) are not very strong reasons... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlPB-00087W-4f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlP9-000873-Qj - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlP8-00086Q-Bp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhlP8-00086D-9A - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:38 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhlP6-0006TS-UY - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:37 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhlOz-00087p-WA; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:15:30 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhlOz-0001X5-RQ; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:15:29 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 12:15:25 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 12:15:25 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -29227,39 +17802,11 @@ the mailer/newsreader I use... Thanks for your explanations, I think I understand now. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlhX-0004W5-Ra - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlhV-0004UD-PV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlhT-0004Rb-6O - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhlhS-0004R1-PX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:34 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhlhP-0000Db-IM - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:32 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8BTITC002166 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:29:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:29:29 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > 1) All other programs that I can think of that process an > input file with a given extension, generate output files @@ -29324,33 +17871,11 @@ to axiom-sty.pamphlet. So the only reason I see not to just add ".tex" would be portability. But which are systems we want to build Axiom on that cannot handle two dots? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghm0A-000298-EU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghm08-00028E-A5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghm06-00026V-Pr - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghm06-00026M-N0 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:50 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghm06-0004zu-Ng - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:50 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ghlz2-0003ya-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:52:44 +0100 -Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:52:44 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex > Bill Page writes: > @@ -29380,69 +17905,36 @@ modification time would stay the same. But I do not know of a make like tool which offers such model (possibly because normal filesystems do not provide a way to store update time). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhmAA-00020D-B6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhmA7-0001yp-Om - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhmA5-0001xy-HR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhmA5-0001xl-8A - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:09 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhmA4-000776-J5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 22FEE68FE4; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:04:08 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9BF4B69015; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:04:03 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:04:00 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDKeIee3teLkABQKqsWNZfdqfzEAAAVcKQ From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Oh, so much email over such a simple thing ... :-( On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:29 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> Bill Page wrote: > > It would be very strange to see -> >=20 +> > > > latex name.tex --> name.tex.dvi > > dvipdfm name.tex.dvi --> name.tex.dvi.pdf -> >=20 +> > > > wouldn't it? ->=20 +> > Of course. ->=20 +> > > 2) File names with more than one . are may not be portable to > > non-linux file systems - although the only ones I can think of > > are old and unlikely candidates for Axiom. ->=20 -> That is an argument. But perhaps for all those of us who are not so=20 +> +> That is an argument. But perhaps for all those of us who are not so > familiar with non-Linux, it would be more helpful to say which systems -> these are. The only system I know would be DOS. But then forget about=20 +> these are. The only system I know would be DOS. But then forget about > the .pamphlet extension. You only have 3 characters. ;-) ->=20 +> > Anything else that cannot handle 2 dots or long filenames? > @@ -29453,19 +17945,19 @@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 and still cause some trouble in rare cases with very long file names. -=20 + > > 3) Files with unnecessarily long names are more awkward to use. ->=20 +> > > Ok I admit that reasons 2) and 3) are not very strong reasons... ->=20 +> > Not even 1) is a reason. Why do you believe one can say ->=20 +> > make dvi ->=20 +> > in ALLPROSE and then say ->=20 +> > xdvi myalps.dvi ->=20 +> > to get the whole documentation although I have the convention > notangle removes .nw > noweave adds .tex (result is .nw.tex) @@ -29486,7 +17978,7 @@ No? > There will never be generated anything else than one dvi file. > And I don't understand, why people care so much about the names -> of intermediate files. You can remove .nw.tex files and no harm=20 +> of intermediate files. You can remove .nw.tex files and no harm > is done. If make would already remove them, one would not even > see what strange things are done under the hat. @@ -29496,7 +17988,7 @@ more obvious, so we do care what goes on under the hat, right? Using a file name for dvi files that retains the original .pamphlet extension is not so obvious to me. -> But that naming scheme simplifies the understanding of the=20 +> But that naming scheme simplifies the understanding of the > system (only in my opinion, of course). One doesn't have to > rename axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet. @@ -29504,48 +17996,19 @@ In my opinion it is only an accident that axiom.sty.pamphlet has this name and contains only one root chunk. In general this is not the case. ->=20 -> So the only reason I see not to just add ".tex" would be portability.=20 -> But which are systems we want to build Axiom on that cannot=20 +> +> So the only reason I see not to just add ".tex" would be portability. +> But which are systems we want to build Axiom on that cannot > handle two dots? ->=20 +> I would guess: none. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0p-0003i3-0O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0n-0003hs-To - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0m-0003hU-JX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn0m-0003hQ-9f - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from [68.230.240.34] (helo=eastrmmtao05.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn0m-0006YT-B2 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao05.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061108125839.CTFE18065.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:58:39 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp - id kCxz1V00421H6rq0000000; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:57:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551A92B.7030109@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke wrote: >> I think perhaps the pamplet files should interact with hyperdoc. Or @@ -29648,46 +18111,11 @@ the whole source code pretty much at the outset, and then fit in the pieces - correct? That's a mean job even without adding documentation, but I suppose it would be a benefit in any case. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0q-0003ik-9A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0o-0003hy-NR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0m-0003ha-IR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn0m-0003hP-99 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn0m-0006YU-BU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BEE4F3EB; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:58:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8CroNX013217; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:53:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8CroRD013216; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:53:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:53:50 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <9qmz725px8.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:53:50 +0100 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -29701,45 +18129,11 @@ Martin Rubey writes: I don't have Axiom support on the machine I usually work with. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn4N-0005OQ-HU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn4M-0005NK-0K - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn4H-0005Js-MP - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn4G-0005JA-UG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn4G-0007Bl-FL - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:12 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA82410C3; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8CvR0k013222; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:57:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8CvRwc013221; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:57:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:57:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <45519E66.4030902@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:57:27 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -29762,42 +18156,11 @@ It does; thanks! OK, thanks. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn83-0008LP-ER - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:06:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn7z-0008Hx-In - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:06:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn7r-00088o-7E - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:05:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn7p-00088L-QY - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:05:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn7p-0008OD-5h - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:05:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCAA4F44D; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:05:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8D18aC013360; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:01:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8D18lR013359; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:01:08 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:01:08 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:01:08 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -29809,42 +18172,11 @@ Bill Page writes: That makes sense. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnBl-0003rY-AF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnBi-0003no-Lm - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnBf-0003jY-RN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnBf-0003j7-Lo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnBe-0000hd-Rl - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384F4110F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:09:49 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8D55uc013364; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:05:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8D558b013363; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:05:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:05:05 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:05:05 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -29859,39 +18191,11 @@ Bill Page writes: News and mail reader: That is what I've been for ages now, to read bpth newsgroups and mails, and therefore write codes too :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnC9-0004T3-Hk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnC7-0004RY-Ui - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnC6-0004Op-Be - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnC6-0004OR-7c - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:18 -0500 -Received: from [68.230.240.33] (helo=eastrmmtao06.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnC5-0000mC-U4 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:18 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao06.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061108131021.ONWM4133.eastrmmtao06.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:10:21 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp - id kD9h1V00W21H6rq0000000; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:20 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551A170.9000206@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke wrote: >>> | > The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet @@ -29936,44 +18240,11 @@ explain our conventions, plus the bib file itself. I doubt any purpose would be served by adding in the bib entries as "source code" in a document, but of course I may be wrong. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIY-0005iz-6T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIW-0005fW-CR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIU-0005bX-OM - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnIU-0005bP-I7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnIU-0001xm-Dt - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A814F3A4; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:16:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8DC9mi013527; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:12:11 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8DC92h013526; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:12:09 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:12:09 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551BF99.7060100@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:12:09 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -30009,45 +18280,11 @@ latexs it. The problem can be papered over in many different way: (3) extract to a different directory (4) find a btter solution. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnJ3-0006G5-08 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnJ1-0006Ff-N8 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIz-0006FH-8x - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnIy-0006F7-V5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnIy-00022x-MF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:24 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhnIx-00062y-Eb; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:17:23 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhnIx-0005k9-Ax; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:17:23 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:17:20 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <9qmz725px8.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:17:20 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -30076,45 +18313,11 @@ Although I guess that you know that anyway. BTW, is it planned to have a debian package with support for Aldor built-in? - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnPL-0000T3-QP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnPK-0000RR-6U - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnPI-0000P0-7b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnPH-0000On-Rr - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnPH-000422-MZ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170C9410B6; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:23:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8DJAx0013728; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:19:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8DJAg8013727; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:19:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:19:10 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:19:10 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -30142,33 +18345,11 @@ The axiom.sty.pamphlet is inded very special. Its purpose and its functionality are not the same like any others. We should not forget that. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghnn7-0006De-PH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghnn6-0006CM-BP - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghnn4-0006Bb-3N - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghnn3-0006BY-VU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:30 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghnn3-0007sN-Ut - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:30 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ghnlm-0002wz-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:47:10 +0100 -Subject: Re: GCL loader option -To: Richard Harke Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:47:10 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: GCL loader option Richard Harke wrote: > I'm attempting to build the build-improvements branch on linux-ia64 @@ -30186,36 +18367,11 @@ It seems that gcl on ia64 can only use dlopen. Axiom tries to force gcl to use bdf library (which is better solution when it works). So you should probably build gcl separately with default settings. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnpL-0007WW-2V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnpI-0007VD-4l - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnpG-0007UJ-Ek - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnpG-0007UD-6b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:46 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnpE-00089W-QQ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:45 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhnoF-0002yq-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:49:43 +0100 -Subject: re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom - source code distribution -To: Richard Harke +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:49:43 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Richard Harke +Subject: re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom source code distribution Richard Harke wrote: > On Tue November 7 2006 23:05, billpage wrote: @@ -30237,44 +18393,11 @@ Richard Harke wrote: debian testing has Xlib.h in libx11-dev. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoia-0002NO-1h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhoiX-0002Lx-T3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhoiV-0002KF-VK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhoiV-0002K4-Q7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:51 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhoiV-0000H2-18 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id ED6AC64F76; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:47:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 19CC2683BB; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:47:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:47:47 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDOSieBfiko3+XTZO4MfUx0H+qDQACRtog From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:19 AM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -30282,11 +18405,11 @@ On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:19 AM Gaby wrote: > | In my opinion it is only an accident that axiom.sty.pamphlet > | has this name and contains only one root chunk. In general this > | is not the case. ->=20 +> > The axiom.sty.pamphlet is inded very special. Its purpose and > its functionality are not the same like any others. We should -> not forget that.=20 ->=20 +> not forget that. +> I don't understand. In what way is it special? To me it looks just like any other "header" file and could easily be a chunk @@ -30315,53 +18438,16 @@ strange and unexpected. I cannot find this behaviour documented anywhere on the web. So it looks like a bug in tex to me. Changing axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet and added a -chunk named <>=3D still seems like the right thing to +chunk named <>= still seems like the right thing to do to avoid this "bug". I one sentence explanation in the pamphlet file should be enough documentation for such a simple change that is otherwise consistent with the rest of the Axiom source code. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GholV-0003XK-L6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GholU-0003Wk-At - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GholT-0003VO-5m - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GholS-0003VA-G3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GholR-000160-W7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16A04F3D1; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:50:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8Ek721015629; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:46:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8Ek77A015628; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:46:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:46:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <9qmz725px8.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qwt6613j3.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:46:06 +0100 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -30399,42 +18485,11 @@ Yes. I don't know. I've decided not to spend too much time on Aldor as far as it is free only in promises. I'm concentratig on Axiom and SPAD. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghosq-0000uz-Jm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoso-0000qp-RG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoso-0000pi-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghoso-0000pV-2T - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghoso-0003Gz-3c - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF75C4F3E2; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8Eriw1015970; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:53:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8EriKM015969; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:53:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:53:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: GCL loader option -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:53:44 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -30462,42 +18517,11 @@ about. It was put there a very long time ago. But since then GCL's configure's gotten smarter and needs not be told about that. Those are bugs that should be corrected. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoz7-0006YD-HR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:05:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoz5-0006WA-QI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoz4-0006UA-8I - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghoz3-0006Ts-VH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:58 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghoz3-0004mC-1a - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:57 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFF440E31; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:04:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8F0BIo016008; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:00:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8F0Bs8016007; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:00:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 16:00:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 16:00:11 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -30559,48 +18583,17 @@ I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm explaning, *why* from my perspective, that exception to the general rule is acceptable -- even when I don't find it perfect or don't like it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpjm-0003cr-Mj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpjk-0003ZP-HP - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpji-0003WA-LJ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghpji-0003Vh-9p - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghpji-00077u-Cb - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:10 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4E777694C5; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1882C69384; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:07 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:07 -0500 -Thread-Topic: porting axiom -Thread-Index: AccDRoJQ8dXjg3QHSfSJFbZqeqxDAQABt5bg From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: +To: list Subject: porting axiom Axiom Developers, Well, here's our next target for Axiom build-improvements: -http://www.flypentop.com/view/page.home/home?s=3Dalgebra +http://www.flypentop.com/view/page.home/home?s=algebra Maybe we will have to seriously consider cross-compilation afterall. :-) @@ -30610,40 +18603,11 @@ Bill Page. PS. I want one for Christmas! - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhpwC-0005tV-Vj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhpwA-0005si-OE - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpw9-0005sN-Od - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghpw9-0005sF-Jj - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghpw9-0001tA-4B - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69848410F1; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:05:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8G1FmN017804; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:01:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8G1FSq017803; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:01:15 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 17:01:15 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: porting axiom -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 17:01:15 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -30655,42 +18619,11 @@ Bill Page writes: He? You went into great details explaining to skeptical Gaby that was not a good idea ;-/ --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhsCu-0003zr-Lq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhsCs-0003x5-LQ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhsCo-0003ox-8Q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhsCo-0003oj-2Q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:22 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhrdD-0001TD-1f - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: (qmail 22008 invoked by uid 7797); 8 Nov 2006 17:51:22 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.055485 secs); 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Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:58:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 56AF769674; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:50 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DB1D16987F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:48 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: [ alexandria-SupportRequests-1551244 ] Latex on - Compile Farm +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:47 -0500 -Thread-Topic: [ alexandria-SupportRequests-1551244 ] Latex - on Compile Farm -Thread-Index: AccDdhaZ/GcCqJ94QCOgGfMnUAz4DQAAbS7w From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: [ alexandria-SupportRequests-1551244 ] Latex on Compile Farm On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:30 PM Tim Daly wrote: ->=20 +> > Latex should now be on the compile farm machines --t ->=20 +> > ... > > Comment By: Robert Liesenfeld (xunil) > Date: 2006-11-08 20:26 > > Message: -> Logged In: YES=20 -> user_id=3D1054 ->=20 +> Logged In: YES +> user_id=1054 +> > This should be installed on most of the compile farm > machines (having trouble getting it installed on a couple). > Please let me know if there's a specific machine you need @@ -30945,44 +18798,13 @@ bash: latex: command not found ppc-osx3:~/osx $ ls /usr/local ppc-osx3:~/osx $ echo $PATH /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin -ppc-osx3:~/osx $ exit=20 - ----------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - +ppc-osx3:~/osx $ exit \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghv8E-00068F-WF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghv8C-00066f-SX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghv8C-00065r-4k - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghv8C-00065a-0X - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghv8B-0004PP-RN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8LccwU022753 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 22:38:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:38:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/08/2006 04:00 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -31115,38 +18937,11 @@ are actually out anyway if we stick to .pamphlet. Why would you accept even a single exception if you can have something without it? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhvkS-00081j-L4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhvkQ-00080o-AN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhvkO-0007zR-U2 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhvkO-0007zO-P3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:16 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhvkO-0004BT-DK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:16 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8MIEwU023722 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 23:18:14 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:18:23 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list >>> 3) Files with unnecessarily long names are more awkward to use. >>> Ok I admit that reasons 2) and 3) are not very strong reasons... @@ -31273,39 +19068,11 @@ I hope, this time my English is understandable. I agree. Other opinions concerning filename portability? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghvnv-0002GP-E4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghvnt-0002Fo-Iq - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghvnr-0002DQ-0Q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghvnq-0002DG-Q1 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:50 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghvnq-0004pe-JU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:50 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8MLbwU023832 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 23:21:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:21:46 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > Yes. This problem has many roots. Part of it is that > build-improvements extracts the TeX file in the same directory as it @@ -31319,52 +19086,21 @@ Cc: list axiom.sty.dvi then it does not matter whether axiom.sty is visible or not. \usepackage will choose the wrong file. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwMa-0007Zh-Qy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwMY-0007Yo-Nu - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwMX-0007Xy-KB - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwMX-0007Xt-EI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwMX-0004BI-F5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:41 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 30768681B2; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:57:38 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AC72067B1B; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:57:36 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:57:32 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDfkm7qIf4jG0dQnO4xd3glG3XtAAAaEaw From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:39 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->...=20 +>... > Most of you opt now for renaming axiom.sty.pamphlet to something > else (like axiom-sty.pamphlet). I rather like to see the general > rule that the generation should go (Rule 2) : ->=20 +> > noweave file.pamphlet > file.pamphlet.tex ->=20 +> > no matter how many dots are in "file". You should not forget to mention how the .tex name (which is only @@ -31381,19 +19117,19 @@ The rule used in the current Axiom make files is also simple noweave file.pamphlet > file.tex latex file.tex --> file.dvi - =20 + no matter how many dots are in "file". ->=20 -> > Bill Page wrote:=20 +> +> > Bill Page wrote: > > | Changing axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet and added a -> > | chunk named <>=3D still seems like the right thing +> > | chunk named <>= still seems like the right thing > > | to do to avoid this "bug". I one sentence explanation in the > > | pamphlet file should be enough documentation for such a simple > > | change that is otherwise consistent with the rest of the Axiom > > | source code. > > -> Gsby wrote:=20 +> Gsby wrote: > > I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm explaining, *why* from my > > perspective, that exception to the general rule is acceptable > > -- even when I don't find it perfect or don't like it. @@ -31415,17 +19151,17 @@ to try to make these names the same or at least similar. But the application of Rule 3 is not always straightforward. If there is more than one program or style file in the pamphlet file there will be multiple code chunk names. -=20 -> Why would you accept even a single exception if you can have=20 + +> Why would you accept even a single exception if you can have > something without it? ->=20 +> There is *no* exception to the rule whether we choose Rule 1 or Rule 2. If we try to apply *both* Rule 1 and Rule 3, without renaming axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet, then in this single -case of a file continuing a code chunk named <>=3D the +case of a file continuing a code chunk named <>= the result is a conflict with the behavior of latex. If we apply *both* Rule 2 and Rule 3, then yes this single @@ -31448,45 +19184,11 @@ the end I will agree to either of these choices. I just think that Rule 1 with a small compromise to Rule 3 is the most simple and easy approach. Obviously both methods will solve the problem. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwkY-0008Ps-NX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwkX-0008OY-Sp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwkX-0008My-5z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwkW-0008Md-TN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwkW-0002Fr-QI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB3E4F3D4; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:22:13 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8NHg4E027575; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:17:44 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8NHg82027574; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:17:42 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:17:41 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - - <45524E62.20601@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:17:41 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31499,39 +19201,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: Sorry, I don't follow. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwp3-0005fs-5R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwp2-0005er-36 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwp0-0005dA-FD - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghwp0-0005d0-7z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:06 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghwp0-0003Mk-0p - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:06 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8NQtwU025619 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:26:56 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:05 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/09/2006 12:17 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31548,57 +19222,26 @@ On 11/09/2006 12:17 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Can I quote a sentence of yours? "Be more specific." ;-) What was unclear in the TeX example I gave? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwuH-0001X1-I3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwuF-0001Wm-NA - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwuB-0001W9-Ol - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwuB-0001W6-HX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:27 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwuB-00047B-6A - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 56CC06A33F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:32:26 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C7E796965B; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:32:24 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:32:19 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDg9TwF90b0W0uSEWoHYwsryD1HwAB6yng From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:18 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > Wow. I must be doing something wrong. I already question whether -> I should use German to get my idea through. English doesn't=20 +> I should use German to get my idea through. English doesn't > seem to work. ;-) -> ...=20 +> ... > There is only *one* dvi file that will be produced and *not* one > for every .nw file. So "xdvi axiom.sty.pamphlet.dvi" is absolutely -> no argument. One should not even look at something like=20 -> axiom.sty.pamphlet.tex, because that is generated and could=20 +> no argument. One should not even look at something like +> axiom.sty.pamphlet.tex, because that is generated and could > look like a big mess --- if you have really looked at files that > come out of noweave you will know that theses files are not for > humans even if they are .tex files. ->=20 +> Ok, thank you! I finally understand what you are saying. :-) @@ -31617,11 +19260,11 @@ to make it clear that we will not be directly apply latex to this file? > So now the trick why I don't have myalps.nw.dvi. ->=20 +> > The top-level project file is called myalps.tex.nw. Applying my > rules gives myalps.tex and myalps.tex.nw.tex. The first one is > just a wrapper that in shortened form looks like ->=20 +> > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{allprose} > \begin{document} @@ -31634,7 +19277,7 @@ file? > \hypertarget{sec:Contents}{}\tableofcontents > \input{\projectname.tex.nw} > \end{document} ->=20 +> > and that will be latex'ed. Ok, so this is a file that we do not currently have in any of the @@ -31647,10 +19290,10 @@ each src directory. > Ok. -=20 ->=20 + +> > There is another point that speaks against the current practice -> of translating each .pamphlet file into one .dvi, namely "literate=20 +> of translating each .pamphlet file into one .dvi, namely "literate > programming". Ideas don't just live in one file. That completely > misses the point that there are relations from one part of the > system to another. For example, there should not be 5 Makefile.dvi @@ -31659,8 +19302,8 @@ Ok. I agree. ->=20 -> It would better to describe the interpreter as a whole rather than=20 +> +> It would better to describe the interpreter as a whole rather than > producing a .dvi file for each of the 187 files in src/interp. > Tim's approach (if I understood that correctly) is to make *one* > huge .pamphlet file. My approach is to have as many pamphlet file @@ -31670,27 +19313,27 @@ I agree. Yes, I like your approach much more than Tim's book volumes even though the end result for the user is nearly the same. Nice. ->=20 +> > Eventually, we perhaps want just one document (a web-site, for > example) that describe all of axiom (including the source code). > For a web site the size doesn't matter. But still, there should > be some backlinks from the human-readable format (.dvi) to the > actual .pamphlets. ->=20 +> Ok. -> ...=20 +> ... > > Using a file name for dvi files that retains the original > > .pamphlet extension is not so obvious to me. ->=20 +> > I hope, this time my English is understandable. > Yes certainly. I don't think the problem is your English. It just takes time to say the critical things so that someone else can appreciate a beautiful idea. -=20 + > ... But now I understand, I do feel like I have to take a step back @@ -31703,43 +19346,12 @@ worth it. Thanks again for your patience. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwwO-00021L-4v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwwL-00021D-Uw - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwwK-000211-IJ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwwK-00020y-BV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwwK-0004UT-7v - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05B4F3D7; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:34:24 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8NTr5Z027920; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:29:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8NTrwq027919; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:29:53 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:29:53 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:29:53 +0100 -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Bill Page writes: @@ -31801,80 +19413,21 @@ logical unit, that also cleanly translates to automation. For the record, I think that the renaming is my favoured option. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwyn-0002S9-Ko - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwyl-0002Rh-Ci - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwyj-0002RV-RG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghwyj-0002RS-LH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:09 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghwyj-0004sj-Ge - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:09 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8Nb6wU025869 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:37:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:37:15 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > Thanks again for your patience. Thank you for listening. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx3I-00042f-VC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx3G-00042O-Oj - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx3G-00041x-2D - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghx3F-00041s-Qo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghx3F-0005b4-QU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:49 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32A84F3C6; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:41:34 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8Nb3fL028217; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:37:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8Nb3Dd028216; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:37:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:37:02 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <455257AF.8080702@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:37:02 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31930,45 +19483,11 @@ systematically appending .tex. Yes. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx4o-0004jd-Th - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx4m-0004iu-Np - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx4l-0004iC-9b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghx4k-0004ht-Cc - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghx4k-0005n3-Bc - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D8240E31; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:43:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8NcaWt028532; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:38:38 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8NcaJj028531; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:38:36 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:38:35 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551BF99.7060100@hemmecke.de> - - <4552587A.708@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:38:35 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31990,38 +19509,11 @@ but that is what silver does. No. It depends on where you call LaTeX from and the value of TEXINPUTS. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxC1-00063p-IQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxBz-0005zp-Fy - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxBy-0005xg-E4 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhxBy-0005xK-6y - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:50 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhxBy-0006ur-3x - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:50 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8NolwU026257 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:50:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:50:57 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list Ah, one last remark. I don't yet have a complete understanding of LEO, but, in fact, what I am suggesting now should not prevent us from @@ -32037,39 +19529,11 @@ And thank you, Bill. I really should change "appending .tex" to what implications that has to my srcltx setup, but with a little TeX-hacking that should work. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxRI-0004pS-TF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxRH-0004nJ-1P - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxRF-0004ln-2b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhxRE-0004la-TD - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:36 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhxRE-0000pF-5R - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:36 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA906QwU026690 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:06:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:06:35 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/09/2006 12:37 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -32089,60 +19553,29 @@ Of course. Are you so sure? Where should I branch from for that experiment? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxiC-0008W8-GS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxiA-0008VY-KM - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghxi7-0008U5-8c - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghxi6-0008Te-S8 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:02 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghxi5-0003vG-Ga - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id CA3F66976F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:24:00 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 54501694AF; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDjW+e/YKiysMHRIWvtMjIh8gzlwAAOabg From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:27 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->=20 +> > On 11/09/2006 12:17 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > Ralf Hemmecke writes: -> >=20 +> > > > [...] -> >=20 +> > > > | Since when you compile axiom.sty.tex also axiom.sty must be in -> > | the path \usepackage will always take axiom.sty.tex instead.=20 +> > | the path \usepackage will always take axiom.sty.tex instead. > > | So the option of moving the files to another place does not > > | help since they must be visible at the same time. -> >=20 +> > > > Sorry, I don't follow. ->=20 +> > Can I quote a sentence of yours? "Be more specific." ;-) > What was unclear in the TeX example I gave? ->=20 +> Ralf, @@ -32181,21 +19614,21 @@ test Now create 'axiom.sty.tex' file in the current directory %%%BEGIN axiom.sty.tex -\message{=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am axiom.sty.tex =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D} +\message{======= I am axiom.sty.tex =======} %%%END axiom.sty.tex Plus two 'axiom.sty' files - one in the current directory %%%BEGIN axiom.sty -\message{=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am just axiom.sty = -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D} +\message{======= I am just axiom.sty = +=======} %%%END axiom.sty and one in the intermediate directory %%%BEGIN intermediate/axiom.sty -\message{=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am intermediate/axiom.sty = -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D} +\message{======= I am intermediate/axiom.sty = +=======} %%%END intermediate/axiom.sty Remember also that we still have the axiom.sty file in the share @@ -32224,7 +19657,7 @@ kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. Document Class: book 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo)) (./axiom.sty.tex -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am axiom.sty.tex =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D) = +======= I am axiom.sty.tex =======) = (./axiom.sty.aux) [1] (./axiom.sty.aux) ) Output written on axiom.sty.dvi (1 page, 216 bytes). @@ -32257,7 +19690,7 @@ kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. Document Class: book 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo)) (./axiom.sty -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am just axiom.sty =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D) = +======= I am just axiom.sty =======) = (./axiom.sty.aux) [1] (./axiom.sty.aux) ) Output written on axiom.sty.dvi (1 page, 216 bytes). @@ -32303,64 +19736,31 @@ Summary: One way to solve this stupid problem is to extract the .tex file to an intermediate directory different from the current directory when we run latex. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxpJ-0003i4-PB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxpH-0003dZ-Fv - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxpG-0003bk-PG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhxpG-0003bV-Jd - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:26 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhxpG-0005rO-8X - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 805F86A3E7; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:31:25 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 50BD46A3CB; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:31:24 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:31:24 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDlS0kL/CQI/w+TU+2Lwdeqza3fQAAGHqw From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 7:07 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > On 11/09/2006 12:37 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > Ralf Hemmecke writes: ->=20 -> > | There is only *one* dvi file that will be produced and=20 +> +> > | There is only *one* dvi file that will be produced and > > | *not* one for every .nw file. -> >=20 +> > > > Ah, but that is a fundamental distinction between the respective > > states of Axiom and your peoject. ->=20 +> > Of course. ->=20 +> > > | So "xdvi axiom.sty.pamphlet.dvi" is absolutely no argument. ->=20 +> > > Unfortunately, for Axiom, that is going to be an argument for > > the short and mi-term. ->=20 +> > Are you so sure? Where should I branch from for that experiment? ->=20 +> Yes a new branch! I strongly encourage you to do that. :-) @@ -32373,44 +19773,11 @@ really does make things simpler and easier to understand. Gaby, what do you think about branching from build-improvements? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy6m-0007BL-1x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy6j-0007BA-Ug - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy6i-0007Ay-A9 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghy6i-0007Av-51 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghy6i-0008Jh-5d - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4324A4F3C3; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:49:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA90ifCQ029534; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:44:43 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA90ifZM029533; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:44:41 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:44:41 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:44:41 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32439,43 +19806,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Yes, exactly. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy9N-0008Sz-Jo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy9L-0008Rr-DX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy9I-0008Qs-P8 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghy9I-0008Qg-15 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghy9I-0000Hz-47 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:08 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DF34F399; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:52:06 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA90lL7m029557; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:47:23 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA90lLqg029556; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:47:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:47:21 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45526D61.8030904@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:47:21 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -32488,42 +19823,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: We should appoint Bill as Axiom Speaker :-) I'm semi serious :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyF6-0006pu-78 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyF5-0006om-8Z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyF3-0006lg-6G - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhyF2-0006l4-Ni - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:04 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhyF2-0001Rp-Ks - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:04 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9E84F3B8; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:58:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA90rIgq029723; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:53:20 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA90rIYK029722; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:53:18 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:53:17 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:53:17 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32553,76 +19857,21 @@ at any time. Given recent discussions, I would very much appreciate Tim shime in. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyTB-0000ms-Mf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyTA-0000lt-RH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyT9-0000kN-Ae - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhyT9-0000kE-7z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:39 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhyT7-0003zy-PG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:39 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA91CTtv026883 - for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:12:31 -0500 -Received: (qmail 26514 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2006 01:12:29 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 9 Nov 2006 01:12:29 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA912WC23908; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:02:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:02:32 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 09 Nov 2006 01:53:17 +0100) Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > Given recent discussions, I would very much appreciate Tim shime in. I have no opinion. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzCz-0000xO-4o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:00:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzCw-0000vS-BT - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzCu-0000t0-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhzCu-0000sm-32 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhzCu-000315-4Y - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:56 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhzBt-0005T0-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 02:58:53 +0100 -Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... -To: Francois Maltey Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:58:53 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... > Hi Waldek, > @@ -32648,43 +19897,10 @@ which handles arbitrary many variables). I think you need your own package -- rischNormalize may help you write it. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzTp-0005UW-RQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzTo-0005ST-Dg - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzTm-0005Q4-Py - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhzTm-0005Pp-Ll - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhzTm-0005QA-FO - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id CF2B768156; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:17:21 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AD42E65AE6; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:17:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:17:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Thread-Topic: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph -Thread-Index: AccDRoJQ8dXjg3QHSfSJFbZqeqxDAQABt5bgABUkdaA= From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: +To: list Subject: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph Axiom Developers; @@ -32752,34 +19968,11 @@ If anyone else is interested in discussing the development and use of a graph theory package for Axiom, I would be very glad to hear from you. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzVd-0007h2-S4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzVc-0007gS-BF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzVa-0007gG-VV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhzVa-0007gC-Mw - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:14 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhzVa-0005aZ-JV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:14 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhzUb-0008WH-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:18:13 +0100 -Subject: Re: Bug? -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:18:13 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: Bug? > Does somebody know what happens here? > @@ -32811,44 +20004,11 @@ Type: Record(coef: List Integer,poly: List SparseUnivariatePolynomial Fraction I (I did not check if this is correct, but looks sensible). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi02J-0005h9-7Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi02I-0005gf-0V - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi02G-0005gN-JD - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi02G-0005gE-DT - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi02G-0001Eb-G3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:00 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8D840E22; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:52:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA92mDg9031259; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:48:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA92mDTb031258; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:48:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 09 Nov 2006 03:48:12 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 03:48:12 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32881,39 +20041,11 @@ Discrete Mathematics", by Sriram Pemmaraju and Steven Skiena, to get an idea of existing work in the area of symbolic computations. I'm not done with it yet. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2Re-0004DB-GF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2Rd-0004C3-Dn - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2Rb-0004Am-II - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi2Rb-0004Ai-FB - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:19 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi2Rb-0007sH-8L - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:19 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA95RBwU005983 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 06:27:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:27:22 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > | I think what Gaby is suggesting is that aaa.tex would be extracted > | to some directory other than the current directory, e.g. @@ -32926,39 +20058,11 @@ avoid to rename axiom.sty.pamphlet no matter what naming scheme we agree upon. The only problem that remains is srcltx. It works as I have it now and I have to investigate how to twist that. But I already have an idea. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2kG-0001Dd-MH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2kE-0001AZ-6z - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2kB-00018y-JL - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi2kB-00018v-Am - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:31 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi2kB-0001uZ-6D - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:31 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA95kRwU006581 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 06:46:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:46:39 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/09/2006 01:53 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -33002,42 +20106,11 @@ something about autoconf if I branch from build-improvements. It seems that I am going to have some sleepless nights coming. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi9u8-0001KP-5w - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi9u5-0001I8-Kt - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi9u2-0001F3-DE - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi9u2-0001Em-2y - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi9u1-00028H-Ui - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:10 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gi9tr-0006En-Ec; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:24:59 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gi9tr-0008WQ-CB; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:24:59 +0100 +Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:24:52 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:24:52 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -33053,37 +20126,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: I did some thinking about a graph theory package. If anybody is interested, I can write up what I believe after November 19. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiAkw-0006M3-Ml - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiAku-0006LF-VZ - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiAko-0006I8-U8 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiAko-0006Hq-BE - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiAko-0005yz-70 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:42 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA9EJIZC031013; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:19:33 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:19:05 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph On November 9, 2006 8:25 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -33116,41 +20163,11 @@ graph theory before November 19. :-) Is humour based on English ambiguity too obvious? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBK4-0007in-T2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBK3-0007gt-Bf - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBK1-0007eI-Ht - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiBK1-0007dd-7G - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiBK0-00045z-N1 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA9EtrwU021359 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:56:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:56:10 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph -Cc: list >> I did some thinking about a graph theory package. If anybody >> is interested, I can write up what I believe after November @@ -33164,41 +20181,11 @@ Cc: list No. I think that Martin meant that he will write something up today if someone is interested. I am interested. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBkT-0001KS-UL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBkS-0001Io-Ih - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBkR-0001Ic-3g - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiBkQ-0001IZ-Sx - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiBkQ-0001FP-I6 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:22 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GiBkK-0004Uq-Q3; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:23:16 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GiBkK-0004LQ-LE; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:23:16 +0100 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Graph theory -From: Martin Rubey Date: 09 Nov 2006 16:23:13 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Graph theory I'll write something up as soon as possible. But this won't be before November~19, since I'm under pressure until then. @@ -33212,38 +20199,10 @@ have thought only about Categories, not implementations. But I didn't get very far anyway. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiG80-0005Hv-KV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:04:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiG7y-0005HU-Ih - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiG7w-0005HH-7e - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiG7w-0005HE-2o - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:56 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.66] (helo=elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiG7v-0003hk-KM - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:55 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=QjuTz9Eww3L8U1NRvkFHqhmZHRG4R8b0vQftA+sFKTFLIyjBIvGMTWCO4tlZQfle; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.159.23] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GiG7u-00035N-QS - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:55 -0500 +Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:14:55 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:14:55 -0800 - charset="us-ascii" Subject: build-improvements on ia64 I built gcl manually per suggestion. Based on suggestions @@ -33292,36 +20251,11 @@ I have been doing a make clean between attempts but I think some file times don't reflect this. I tried make dist-clean but didn't work. What is the best way to reset? -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiGoY-0000r0-08 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiGoV-0000qZ-T5 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiGoU-0000qF-GC - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiGoU-0000q7-9A - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.62] (helo=mail242.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiGoT-0001rI-NA - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:54 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail242.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA9KlGs8031909; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:47:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Richard Harke'" Richard Harke -Subject: RE: build-improvements on ia64 +\start Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:47:00 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Richard Harke +Subject: RE: build-improvements on ia64 On November 9, 2006 3:15 PM Richard Harke wrote: > @@ -33438,41 +20372,11 @@ configure command again: $ rm -rf * $ ../axiom.improvements/configure --with-gcl -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHBg-0007Bc-6v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHBf-0007BX-0g - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHBd-0007BA-IW - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiHBd-0007B7-DR - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:49 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiHBd-0004Uq-2y - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:49 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA9LBjwU031648 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:11:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:12:04 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 -Cc: list > I recommend that you do an "out of source" build. This means > that Axiom is built in a different directory then where the @@ -33505,43 +20409,11 @@ Cc: list Maybe that should go to the wiki. BuildAxiom perhaps? (That page seems to be out of date somehow.) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHRS-0007uX-PQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHRQ-0007qd-77 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHRO-0007nr-7g - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiHRN-0007nU-Vo - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiHRN-0006Q6-T2 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2763A4F3D1; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:27:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA9LNG7t021981; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:23:19 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA9LNG6C021980; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:23:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 22:23:16 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 - <455399A4.8000801@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 22:23:16 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -33579,42 +20451,11 @@ should be very few). I very much appreciate the number of testings, interest and feddback going into the build-improvements. That pressure helps keep me up :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiKcR-0001LO-Q9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiKcQ-0001LD-TX - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiKcP-0001Kz-8D - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiKcP-0001Kw-42 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiKcP-0003Z5-6j - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:41 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5FF40F3D; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:51:37 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAA0ko6w027213; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:46:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAA0koFG027212; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:46:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 10 Nov 2006 01:46:50 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 01:46:50 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -33639,49 +20480,12 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: hthits already includes . Is there any reason why you would include it a second time? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLKe-0006ZJ-5L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLKc-0006Z0-BQ - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLKa-0006Yg-St - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLKa-0006Yd-Ma - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:20 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLKa-0001w5-Jv - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF051C5621; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:18 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 09859-01; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:15 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC96DC5630; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:15 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548DB46DE05; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:11 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -33741,7 +20545,7 @@ src/hyper/ (searchPage): Update. src/graph/viewman/ -2006-11-09 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +2006-11-09 Humberto Zuazaga * viewman.c.pamphlet (main): Use SIGHLD on MAC OS X too. @@ -33966,43 +20770,12 @@ src/graph/viewman/ squirt(pgname, strlen(pgname)); - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLUM-0002Ws-QV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLUK-0002Ud-UX - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLUJ-0002SZ-LQ - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLUJ-0002SJ-GL - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:23 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLUJ-0003Z2-EK - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA47CD9D - for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:33 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF9C3C4; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:31 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594746DE05; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:17 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -34015,34 +20788,11 @@ Camm -- Did you had a chance to look into this? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLm8-0006PJ-1f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLm5-0006Nq-NM - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLm4-0006MQ-2q - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLm3-0006MJ-Qc - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:43 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLm3-0005W3-CV - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:43 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GiLkr-0001Ce-00; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:04:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:04:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list - +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -34071,50 +20821,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Just overlooked that is already included... --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLpq-0000VR-Ae - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLpo-0000Qv-5z - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLpm-0000Lc-2E - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLpl-0000LM-UC - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:33 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLpl-00069k-HC - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:33 -0500 -Received: (qmail 3484 invoked by uid 7797); 10 Nov 2006 02:06:28 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.465841 secs); 10 Nov 2006 02:06:28 -0000 - Camm Maguire, list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 10 Nov 2006 02:06:27 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:09:12 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -34139,37 +20851,10 @@ fails with the permission problem on /bin/gcl (I think a GCLDIR configuration variable is being blown away). I'm sorry I haven't had the time to fix this yet. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiZkT-0000RD-8G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:01:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiZkO-0000OY-PK - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiZkM-0000MO-No - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiZkM-0000MF-7y - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:54 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiZkL-0000q3-HQ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:53 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.167]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5EACA1C000B1 - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:00:51 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:01:26 +0100 +From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: presea and htsearch Hello, @@ -34191,40 +20876,11 @@ Greg PS : I will report these issues on IssueTracker. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiaMu-0004G8-Gi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiaMq-0004DK-2E - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiaMl-00049q-GS - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiaMk-00049S-OY - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:35 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiaMk-000806-LR - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:34 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.167]) - by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DC471C0008E - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:40:33 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:41:09 +0100 -Subject: Experimental support of the mouse wheel in - Hyperdoc - - ---=-vu++/Vl0doFYLVSdjLuK +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: Experimental support of the mouse wheel in Hyperdoc Hello, @@ -34267,50 +20923,17 @@ diff -Naur /home/greg/TDevel/cvs/axiom/src/hyper/event.pamphlet ./event.pamphlet link = get_hyper_link(event); - ---=-vu++/Vl0doFYLVSdjLuK-- - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiasH-0001RA-0k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiasF-0001QU-K5 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiasD-0001OZ-7Q - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiasD-0001OK-1s - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:05 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiasC-00063j-Ue - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:05 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D61F41085; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:13:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAAI8DVw020884; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:08:16 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAAI8DMG020883; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:08:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 10 Nov 2006 19:08:13 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: presea and htsearch Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: | Hello, -|=20 -|=20 +| +| | The chunk/file presea (in src/hyper/search.pamphlet) contains | '#!/bin/awk -f' which does not work on my Debian system (awk is | under /usr/bin). I know that there is a variable for awk, so maybe this @@ -34324,32 +20947,10 @@ Yes, we can ask Autoconf to give use the full path to the AWK executable. OK. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gib9U-0006HA-L8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gib9T-0006F7-Ah - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gib9R-0006Ck-R1 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gib9R-0006CS-LQ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:53 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gib9R-0000KJ-Bp - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:53 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gib8Q-0006kf-00 - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:29:50 +0100 -To: list Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:29:50 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: build un-portability Looking at document script I noticed that it normally uses unquoted @@ -34357,36 +20958,11 @@ values, which may cause trouble with embedded spaces. So I decided to try building axiom in a directory which contained space in its name. Configure worked nice, but build failed immediatly... - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibE1-00022e-1a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibDz-00020x-75 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibDy-00020F-AJ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GibDx-0001zy-QN - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:34 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GibDx-00017Y-NI - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:33 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GibCw-00070Z-00; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:34:30 +0100 -Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +\start Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:34:30 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Axiom-Developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: presea and htsearch > Always in src/hyper/search.pamphlet, the chunk/file htsearch uses > 'sort ... +number ...' which issues a warning on my system : @@ -34409,41 +20985,11 @@ diff -u build-improvements.bb/src/hyper/search.pamphlet build-improvements/src/h @ <>= - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibK0-0007e4-OL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibJy-0007cB-TX - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibJt-0007Vi-EX - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GibJt-0007VS-8E - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:41 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.69] (helo=elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GibJt-0002D9-7I - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:41 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=jy0cLnaKm1z8hkn6BVzGbFqaGSA6M3UuIjRzKtbC0imZh5br/Tsp/3aHDcDT41Gs; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.153.204] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GibJs-0003TO-6b - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:40 -0500 +\start +Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:52:41 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 -Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:52:41 -0800 - charset="iso-8859-1" On Thu November 9 2006 12:47, Bill Page wrote: > If this problem persists after re-building with a fresh copy of @@ -34558,42 +21104,11 @@ I also tried to do (si:use-fast-links nil) but that gets segfault Alos, if I just try gdb stage0/bootsys when I give run, it crashes (sgfault) -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibmr-0001ak-4M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibmp-0001ZP-PH - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibmk-0001S2-Al - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gibmj-0001RX-QQ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:29 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gibmj-0006nW-Lm - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:29 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98454107B; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAAJ6cTf022530; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:06:40 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAAJ6cIJ022529; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:06:38 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:06:38 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build un-portability -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:06:38 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -34607,38 +21122,11 @@ problems for Unix-based tools. I'm not worried about them at the moment, e.g. they are very low priority on my list of things to do in build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giby3-0004z1-Tm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giby1-0004x6-Vd - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibxw-0004sF-Ix - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gibxw-0004rc-2w - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:04 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gibxu-0000ym-Iq - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:03 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAAJMTwU017702 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:22:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:22:51 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -Cc: Axiom-Developer On 11/10/2006 07:34 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > The following removes the warning. OTOH I am not sure if all our @@ -34651,43 +21139,11 @@ actually like to see two lists. 1) Where does Axiom currently compile and/or run? 2) Where should Axiom compile and/or run? (Future plans) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GicP3-00034Y-Ck - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GicP1-00030o-As - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GicOz-0002y2-KR - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GicOz-0002xu-Eu - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GicOz-0005YD-HW - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7892C4F3C2; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:50:48 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAAJkAtm023592; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:46:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAAJkAtf023591; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:46:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:46:09 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:46:09 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34702,39 +21158,11 @@ I would like to see Axiom run (ideally) wherever GCC runs, e.g. desktops, laptops, etc. I do not insist on 16K memory machines though :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gidu3-0003CQ-H7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gidu0-00038z-VC - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gidtx-00035l-NS - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gidtx-00035e-Jl - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gidtx-0004Db-BG - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAALQuwU025617 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:26:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:27:22 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - -Cc: Axiom-Developer > | Interesting, somebody knows about our potential targets. Where are > | they listed? Isn't that relevant of how portable Axiom should become? @@ -34758,45 +21186,11 @@ but rather be happy with .input files. That all says something about how powerful the machine must be to do certain things. Clearly, "running on some system" and "compiling on some system" is not the same thing. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gieqw-000792-6A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:28:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giequ-00077I-2i - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:28:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gieqp-00074j-BI - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gieqp-00074d-7P - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:27:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GieKt-0008Dt-J8 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:54:57 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D13F4F3E6; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:54:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAALo37m026595; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:50:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAALo3i4026594; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:50:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 10 Nov 2006 22:50:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> - - <4554EEBA.3070504@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 22:50:03 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34828,42 +21222,11 @@ machines in use. I would hate to build a system that second-guess what users want to do with it. I've come to be very suspcious of the distinction "user" and "developer". --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GifjE-00054F-EP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GifjC-00052y-Qu - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GifjB-00050w-DR - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GifjB-00050o-Av - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:05 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.191] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GifjB-0005zl-3w - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:05 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so30110nfb - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=UChnqH+5NqUohuD6aZ3ardOybea2h5W53wq/kuZQkAK3RaABV4Hu/ApSghLkbVba1LYzz6IKYxtH8LhYUUYlQnYc+Wr5Iv3sCovwLJXmyhcp3QQfBwvH5lSlBXzcib1Fzh8akJ+S/+vMnySQWF3Peo/JPDe70lLYOSzlrFefl2s= -Received: by 10.78.201.2 with SMTP id y2mr3173096huf.1163201043098; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:24:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:02 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> - - <4554EEBA.3070504@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Axiom-Developer Ralf, @@ -34880,46 +21243,16 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomBinaries page. If anybody wants to add a platform or a binary, please free to do so. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gig0Z-0007oT-76 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gig0X-0007jS-52 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gig0S-0007ao-Fi - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gig0S-0007aR-Av - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:41:56 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gig0S-00087k-AX - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:41:56 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.167]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C69A11C0008A; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:41:36 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> - - <4554EEBA.3070504@hemmecke.de> - +\start Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:38:57 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: presea and htsearch Le vendredi 10 novembre 2006 =E0 22:50 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit = : > Ralf Hemmecke writes: ->=20 +> > | > | Interesting, somebody knows about our potential targets. Where ar= e > | > | they listed? Isn't that relevant of how portable Axiom should bec= @@ -34928,18 +21261,18 @@ ome? > | > e.g. desktops, laptops, etc. I do not insist on 16K memory machine= s > | > though :-) -> |=20 +> | > | Do you have a link to a list of systems for GCC? ->=20 +> > The list of *known reports* (which is not the same as supported) is her= e: -> =20 +> > http://gcc.gnu.org/buildstat.html ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > | OK. But there were actually two questions (if not more). Or do you > | mean by "run" also "compile" on these machines? ->=20 +> > I mean run, then compile. I extend this to object code (architecture dependant binary format (to @@ -34947,36 +21280,7 @@ be opposed to what is called bytecode)). Just my thought. -Greg - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiiPh-0001E2-Le - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiiPf-0001BZ-43 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiiPb-00017z-Ew - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiiPa-00017j-Bm - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:02 -0500 -Received: from [66.196.97.60] (helo=web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiiPa-0003I3-6B - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:02 -0500 -Received: (qmail 99148 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2006 02:16:01 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=obM9z9vTTGHiWYyKPNb1nJPHayfeo9osC8foiFSSWKy1XYI3Ue2nvxUt1msdtdAo8F+IgADuCACEhnySvp7XQBPmbSXBhi76+9c39r8ipVVsjwzPZO7z3EEIkdTSVh3W13tIC5AJE572qKA6g24LgQH7UrFTeagM9IWG6Ab5VWE= - ; -Received: from [70.161.176.93] by web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:16:01 PST Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -34989,46 +21293,11 @@ is targeting beta availability of the fonts in December. Very good news. I find the license a bit confusing at first glance but at least it is progress! -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Do you Yahoo!? -Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. -http://new.mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giibf-0001cJ-EC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giibe-0001c9-2r - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giibc-0001bO-Ar - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Giibc-0001bL-7O - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:28 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.80] (helo=mail260.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Giibc-0005IU-4a - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:28 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail260.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAB2RuNn029681; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:15 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: build un-portability +\start Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:27:32 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Gaby, +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: build un-portability On November 10, 2006 2:07 PM you wrote: > @@ -35063,39 +21332,11 @@ close or how far away completion of this branch is. It might also help other people who are working on build-improvements to more efficiently contribute to the progress. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gij7X-0006Gc-KY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gij7X-0006GW-0R - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gij7V-0006FC-Fx - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gij7V-0006F6-Du - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:25 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.109] (helo=mail289.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gij7U-0000UF-Uz - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:25 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail289.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAB30uE3004259; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:18 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: Graph theory Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:00:37 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: Graph theory On November 9, 2006 10:23 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -35130,44 +21371,13 @@ has equality and inequality. I think a Graph in Axiom has to be something nearly as fundamental as a Set. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GijXY-0006FT-On - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GijXW-0006Dk-Vg - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GijXV-0006Bl-F6 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GijXV-0006BY-9M - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:17 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GijXV-0007qM-3u - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:17 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FBF4F3C1; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:28:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAB3NNdh001853; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:23:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAB3NNWl001852; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:23:23 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build un-portability -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Nov 2006 04:23:23 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build un-portability -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | Gaby, | @@ -35214,36 +21424,11 @@ keeps poping when I try different ideas in different local trees. I'll upate README.build-improvements. Some of them are not really related to build machinery. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gijs6-0001a4-Ie - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gijs5-0001Zy-Vd - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gijs4-0001Zk-HC - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gijs4-0001Zh-BG - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:32 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gijs4-0001xq-CM - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:32 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAB3n3ZV012335; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:22 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:48:23 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: build un-portability -Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:48:23 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 10, 2006 10:23 PM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -35308,47 +21493,13 @@ composed. After you update README.build-improvements, I would like to publish it on the Axiom Wiki. Ok? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GistO-0006cP-Qn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GistM-0006aX-Od - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GistJ-0006Xg-F5 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GistJ-0006XN-3C - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GistI-0002ds-Qu - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:25 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9CB4F3CB; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:27:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kABDMRb0007035; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:22:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kABDMQ8w007034; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:22:26 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build un-portability -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Nov 2006 14:22:26 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build un-portability -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 10, 2006 10:23 PM Gaby wrote: | > ... @@ -35420,39 +21571,11 @@ That is not the case. It fell out of the basic tools used. Sure, as long as you keep the published and the repo versions in sync. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GivSy-0007Wl-7X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GivSv-0007Tz-O9 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GivSt-0007Q9-Ok - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GivSt-0007Py-L2 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:19 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GivSt-0004XK-8I - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:19 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kABGBB6c020282 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:11:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:10:52 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) -Cc: list +Subject: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) > I think one of the neat things about Axiom is that it is usually > not necessary or even desirable to make a distinction between @@ -35495,44 +21618,11 @@ first is (as an abstract data type) clearly a mathematical object. What I care about is stating complexity properties and providing a rich set of basic data structures for Axiom/Aldor. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giybm-00040U-MF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giybl-00040P-Pq - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giybj-00040A-Ax - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Giybj-000407-6n - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:39 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Giybj-0002j1-5L - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:39 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACE34F3CB; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:33:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kABJSiDk010955; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:28:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kABJSi08010954; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:28:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) - <4555F60C.9050202@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Nov 2006 20:28:43 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -35544,32 +21634,10 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: This is what we do in the Generic Programming community under the heading of "Musser--Stepanov style Generic Programming". --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj0Lx-0003BC-UO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj0Lw-0003AC-Kt - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj0Lu-000394-LS - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gj0Lu-00038z-I8 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gj0Lt-0001bg-T9 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gj0Kp-0002oA-00 - for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:24:19 +0100 -To: list Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:24:19 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: build problem Version 257 of build-improvements does not build due to missing @@ -35587,44 +21655,11 @@ quotes. The following fixes the problem: LSP=$(abs_builddir)/lsp SRC=${SPD}/src --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj5DV-0002iG-QM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj5DU-0002hw-22 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj5DS-0002hi-4S - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gj5DR-0002hf-Vm - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gj5DR-0000Qr-VU - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D424F3C1; - Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:36:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAC2W6TR016869; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:32:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAC2W6Tw016868; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:32:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 12 Nov 2006 03:32:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build problem -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Nov 2006 03:32:06 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -35636,43 +21671,11 @@ This was caused by a thinko and duplicate local tree problems. I fixed in one tree and commit the other one :-( It should be fixed by now. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjG0e-0006pE-8P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjG0c-0006oW-Ky - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjG0Z-0006mi-Vz - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjG0Z-0006me-Qo - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:27 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjG0Z-0007bs-Cx - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:27 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B91941086; - Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:08:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kACE38Y0022539; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:03:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kACE38ce022538; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:03:08 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 12 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Richard Harke Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 - <200611101052.41810.Richard Harke> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 -Cc: list Richard Harke writes: @@ -35688,38 +21691,11 @@ Could you send the config.log and the build log? I'm able to build Axiom (--without-gcl) on a x86_64-suse-linux and use it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjGDq-0008M4-W4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjGDp-0008K6-Gn - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjGDl-0008Ie-OM - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjGDl-0008IZ-Jk - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjGDl-0001zz-CW - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kACEM2t4007217 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:22:02 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:22:45 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Graph theory -Cc: list > For example, is an Axiom set, i.e. a member of the domain Set, a > data structure or a mathematical structure? Should we call the @@ -35742,45 +21718,19 @@ That is OK, I think. As a category, I agree, but there is not *the* graph domain. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjIGs-00065X-18 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjIGq-00062s-9z - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjIGo-00060Y-L0 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjIGo-00060V-EC - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:22 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjIGo-0000wk-Ci - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:22 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.133.118]) - by mwinf1911.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8B6661C000E2 - for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:33:20 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph - theory) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer - <45572E35.7060805@hemmecke.de> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:34:03 +0100 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph theory) -Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 15:22 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit :=20 +Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 15:22 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > > For example, is an Axiom set, i.e. a member of the domain Set, a > > data structure or a mathematical structure? Should we call the > > domain Set a mathematical structure or only the category SetCategory > > to which it belongs? And of course not everything that we would > > like to call a set in Axiom is finite. ->=20 +> > Actually, "Set" is a bad choice for the domain of finite sets that all > have the same type of elements. It should at least be called > "FiniteSet". But then, would make "Set" as a _domain_ in the sense of @@ -35803,35 +21753,11 @@ maybe this bug ("Unknown page: MultisetXmpPage") is specific to me. I wanted to use the Debian version but encountered another bug ("string something"). -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjJC7-0008Ox-JU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjJC6-0008Or-Ov - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjJC4-0008Mp-6C - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjJC4-0008Md-2s - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:32 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjJC3-0008LT-V3 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:32 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GjJAz-0003d1-00; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:31:25 +0100 -Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph - theory) -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:31:25 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Axiom-Developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph theory) Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > I played a little with this and reread aggcat which contains the @@ -35843,52 +21769,25 @@ Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different capitalization -does not match MultisetXmpPage. =20 -=20 +does not match MultisetXmpPage. + > Any idea why this page is not found ? Some other questions, is ph.awk > available somewhere, same thing for the sources of theses files, are > they available somewhere ? What is the difference between a .ht file and > a .pht file ? ->=20 +> .pht was generated form .ht file. It contains Axiom output, so that Hypertex can show the output without recomputiong it. I affraid that we need to re-create ph.awk (maybe using another language). ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjPCy-0004ue-QX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjPCx-0004su-K5 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjPCv-0004pa-J6 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjPCv-0004pM-EZ - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:49 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjPCv-0006uY-Er - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:49 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.133.118]) - by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 354BC1C0008D; - Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:57:25 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:57:34 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph theory) -Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 18:31 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit :=20 +Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 18:31 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : > Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > I played a little with this and reread aggcat which contains the > > aggregate categories used in src/algebra. I displayed in Hyperdoc @@ -35898,67 +21797,34 @@ Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 18:31 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit :=20 > > returned "Unknown page: MultisetXmpPage". This page seems to exist, > > MSET.[p]ht contain some of what I think are examples. > > ->=20 +> > MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different capitalization > does not match MultisetXmpPage. I'll look further at it. -> =20 +> > > Any idea why this page is not found ? Some other questions, is ph.awk > > available somewhere, same thing for the sources of theses files, are > > they available somewhere ? What is the difference between a .ht file = and > > a .pht file ? -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > .pht was generated form .ht file. It contains Axiom output, so that > Hypertex can show the output without recomputiong it. I affraid that > we need to re-create ph.awk (maybe using another language). ->=20 +> Thanks for these explanations. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjXHt-0007uU-Ss - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjXHq-0007s7-Q2 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjXHm-0007pN-QR - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjXHm-0007pK-Na - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjXHm-0006Py-5g - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F5E4F3D2; - Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:35:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAD8TfEG005016; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:29:48 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAD8TfMv005015; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:29:41 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 13 Nov 2006 09:29:40 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 11, 2006 2:29 PM Gaby wrote: | > @@ -36032,36 +21898,10 @@ terms of those. We are working on connecting both views. Chase the citations to the datatype generic programming. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjaPk-0004jL-Gq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjaPi-0004gn-Fd - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjaPe-0004dP-E3 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjaPd-0004cy-UB - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjaPd-0005IF-G2 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:41 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD39E4F3B8; - Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:55:31 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1GjaPa-0001a1-Eg; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:55:38 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 13 Nov 2006 12:55:38 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: import and map in *.spad files. Hello, @@ -36094,41 +21934,11 @@ What are theses import command ? Thanks a lot and have a good day ! -Francois, in France. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjcA8-0000vi-ED - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjcA6-0000tM-KX - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjcA4-0000ps-1Y - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjcA3-0000pk-UL - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:43 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjcA3-0000Ga-Rc - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:44 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gjc9x-0001gc-Co; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:47:37 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gjc9x-0007Hx-Bf; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:47:37 +0100 +\start +Date: 13 Nov 2006 14:47:36 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: import and map in *.spad files. -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 13 Nov 2006 14:47:36 +0100 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -36170,35 +21980,10 @@ tells axiom to bring PolynomialCategoryLifting(IndexedExponents K, K, R, P, F) into scope, so that you don't have to package call (using $) these functions all the time. - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjdl5-0005uz-4H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjdl3-0005uQ-Ko - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjdkz-0005sd-Sr - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjdkz-0005sa-O5 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:29:57 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjdkz-00019w-F6 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:29:57 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GjdkO-00072P-00; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:29:20 -0500 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -From: Camm Maguire Date: 13 Nov 2006 10:29:20 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Axiom ia64 Greetings! Please excuse -- I am no longer receiving axiom developer @@ -36378,37 +22163,10 @@ If anyone would like to help getting bfd support for ia64 and friends, please look at sfaslbfd_alpha.c and sfaslbfd_mips.c from the HEAD cvs tree. This should serve as an example for the needed sfaslbfd_ia64.c - -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyE-0006sJ-NP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyC-0006q1-OI - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyC-0006pE-64 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyC-0006ox-1L; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GjdyC-0003LV-4f; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gjdxh-00075l-00; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:05 -0500 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 13 Nov 2006 10:43:05 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: gcl and readline Greetings! 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I am having some issue with the eval function, any ideas ?
I have reduced my problem to the simplest form.
It is making me crazy !!!

Because UP, which is a PolynomialCat, has InnerEvalable

-PolynomialCategory(R:Ring, E:OrderedAbelianMonoidSup, VarSet:OrderedSet):
        Category ==
  Join(PartialDifferentialRing VarSet, FiniteAbelianMonoidRing(R, E),
       Evalable %, InnerEvalable(VarSet, R),
-       InnerEvalable(VarSet, %), RetractableTo VarSet,
       FullyLinearlyExplicitRingOver R)

What am I missing ?

Prog :

#include "axiom.as"

TestEval( x:Symbol , F:Field): with {} -
== add {


    import from UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) ;
    import from Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) ;

    test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == {
-        eval(a, x, 1)
    }

And here his the error message :

 aldor -M no-abbrev -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra eval.as
#1 (Warning) Deprecated message prefix: use `ALDOR_' instead of `_AXL' -
"eval.as", line 11:                 eval(a, x, 1)
                    ................^
[L11 C17] #2 (Error) No one possible return type satisfies the context type.
  These possible return types were rejected: -
          -- Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F))
  The context requires an expression of type Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)).
The following could be suitable if imported:
  eval: (Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)), Symbol pretend SetCategory, UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) pretend Type) -> Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) from Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)), if UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) has InnerEvalable(Symbol, UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) -

Thanks

Antoine Hersen
}
- -------=_Part_15699_21592738.1163457866184-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjlBi-0007tz-Rb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjlBh-0007rc-KQ - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjlBg-0007qb-Js - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjlBg-0007qL-7f - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:00 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjlBg-0001rz-3V - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:00 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kADNPvt4021317 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:25:58 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:26:50 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Cc: axiom-developer Hi Antoine, @@ -37272,45 +22567,13 @@ On 11/13/2006 11:44 PM, Antoine Hersen wrote: > Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) from > Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)), if UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) has > InnerEvalable(Symbol, UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) -> -> Thanks -> -> Antoine Hersen -> } -> -> -> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjnFe-0003m1-U2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjnFd-0003lg-24 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjnFb-0003kf-6M - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjnFa-0003kc-UD - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:10 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjnFa-000767-PC - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:11 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GjnDq-0004wZ-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:36:22 +0100 -Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -To: Camm Maguire Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:36:22 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Camm Maguire wrote: > At present, there are 5 platforms in gcl-2.6.x (hppa, ia64, alpha, @@ -37342,50 +22605,13 @@ the same database and speed is also quite similar. BTW. To load domain files in interpreted mode I just removed .o files (there is probably a better way). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoD5-0006MO-Ad - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoD3-0006Lh-Oq - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoD2-0006LJ-10 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjoD1-0006L8-Ru - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:35 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjoD1-0007aC-O8 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:35 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE2d9Aq008453 - for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:24 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: -Subject: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) +\start Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:00 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" - - - ------Original Message----- -From: Bill Page [mailto:Bill Page]=20 -Sent: November 13, 2006 1:13 AM +From: Bill Page To: list -Cc: 'Martin Rubey'; 'Ralf Hemmecke'; 'Bill Page' -Subject: RE: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: -Graph theory) +Subject: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) +-----Original Message----- On November 11, 2006 11:11 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... @@ -37394,7 +22620,7 @@ On November 11, 2006 11:11 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > usually not necessary or even desirable to make a distinction > > between data structures and mathematical structures. Data > > structures are just another kind of "mathematical" object. ->=20 +> > Oh, don't believe that I don't see data structures as > mathematical structures. They are. But I rather have the feeling > that for efficiency reasons it is desirable to have some basic @@ -37442,7 +22668,7 @@ Ultimately in computer algebra systems I think all mathematics must be constructive. In a sense, that is what we mean by "algebra". An existence proof or a proof by contradiction is not of much use in such a system. -=20 + > Example. You want to implement quicksort. Would someone choose > lists to do that instead of arrays? @@ -37461,7 +22687,7 @@ the necessary methods on which sort may operate. Agreed. -> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials.=20 +> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. > Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? This may not be such a good example since I think the difference @@ -37469,7 +22695,7 @@ here is primarily related to how these domains coerce to OutputForm. It is not clear to me how or when we can say that something is "mathematically the same thing". ->=20 +> > I hope you get somehow the feeling what I meant when I said > that I care for data structures of graphs. We all know that > some representation is better than the other for certain @@ -37477,8 +22703,8 @@ It is not clear to me how or when we can say that something is > Yes that is true and I agree that it is an important issue. -=20 -> Drawing the line between "data structures" and "mathematical=20 + +> Drawing the line between "data structures" and "mathematical > structures" is hard if not impossible. But for data structures > I somehow feel that their documentation should clearly say > something about the complexity of operations. @@ -37489,26 +22715,26 @@ conceptually. See for example the Algebra and Data structure hierachies in the end covers of the Axiom book. However note that at least SetCategory, Finite, and OrderedSet appear in both diagrams. -=20 + > > For example, is an Axiom set, i.e. a member of the domain Set, > > a data structure or a mathematical structure? ->=20 +> > How expensive is it to add a new element to an existing set of > type Set(T) where T has no ordering function? How expensive is > it to add a new element to Set(T) if T provides an ordering > function? ->=20 +> All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a hash into SmallInteger. I suppose that this means that the cost of adding new elements is independent of Type T. -> I actually don't care about much about whether to call it "data=20 +> I actually don't care about much about whether to call it "data > structure" or "mathematical structure" since in a general sense > the first is (as an abstract data type) clearly a mathematical > object. What I care about is stating complexity properties and > providing a rich set of basic data structures for Axiom/Aldor. ->=20 +> On November 12, 2006 9:23 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... @@ -37516,7 +22742,7 @@ On November 12, 2006 9:23 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Should we call the domain Set a mathematical structure or only > > the category SetCategory to which it belongs? And of course not > > everything that we would like to call a set in Axiom is finite. ->=20 +> > Actually, "Set" is a bad choice for the domain of finite sets > that all have the same type of elements. It should at least be > called "FiniteSet". @@ -37558,15 +22784,15 @@ then #:%->NNI, or cardinality of the size of a given set. It is true that all members of Set have a finite cardinality. But not all domains in SetCategory are Finite. ->=20 +> > > Essentially the only requirement of SetCategory is that the > > domain has equality and inequality. ->=20 +> > That is OK, I think. ->=20 +> > > I think a Graph in Axiom has to be something nearly as > > fundamental as a Set. ->=20 +> > As a category, I agree, but there is not *the* graph domain. Similar to Set, I think we need to admit the possibility of an @@ -37593,55 +22819,16 @@ On November 12, 2006 11:34 AM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: I think it is interesting that multisets only have cardinality if the domain has finiteAggregate since count is unbounded. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoEf-0006vk-Cb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoEd-0006vf-LZ - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoEb-0006vQ-5a - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjoEb-0006vN-0R - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjoEa-0007l5-SU - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:13 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE2eqc8005491 - for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:40:41 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: FW: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page - - -----Original Message----- -From: Bill Page [mailto:Bill Page]=20 -Sent: November 13, 2006 12:12 AM -To: 'Waldek Hebisch' -Cc: 'Axiom-Developer'; 'Kai Kaminski'; 'Vanuxem Gr=E9gory' -Subject: RE: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page - On November 12, 2006 12:31 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > I played a little with this and reread aggcat which contains > > the aggregate categories used in src/algebra. I displayed in @@ -37652,26 +22839,26 @@ On November 12, 2006 12:31 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > This page seems to exist, MSET.[p]ht contain some of what I > > think are examples. > > ->=20 -> MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different=20 -> capitalization does not match MultisetXmpPage. =20 +> +> MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different +> capitalization does not match MultisetXmpPage. > It seems that there is a realistic prospect of making hyperdoc more useful and more reliable. Is there enough interest to warrant establishing a new branch focusing on hyperdoc-improvements? - =20 + > > Any idea why this page is not found ? Some other questions, > > is ph.awk available somewhere, same thing for the sources of > > theses files, are they available somewhere ? What is the > > difference between a .ht file and a .pht file ? -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > .pht was generated form .ht file. It contains Axiom output, > so that Hypertex can show the output without recomputiong it. > I am afraid that we need to re-create ph.awk (maybe using > another language). ->=20 +> There are awk scripts like ht.awk that sound similar to this in the htex directory that is part of the original Axiom source @@ -37687,54 +22874,16 @@ it is not difficult. Some parts of this would be similar to what is done on the Axiom wiki to product wiki pages with embedded Axiom output (using Python). - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjosq-0005Yd-Ig - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjosp-0005Y1-9M - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjosm-0005XM-Fs - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjosm-0005XD-BW - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjosl-0001T6-RB - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DC040E35; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:21:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAE3GtcT028276; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:16:58 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAE3Gtxr028275; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:16:55 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Nov 2006 04:16:55 +0100 -Cc: list - +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) [ Is it normal that I don't see Ralf's messages? ] -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -37797,45 +22946,22 @@ That is not a mathematical requirement. Why? - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjp6t-0007RC-4a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjp6q-0007Q3-K1 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjp6m-0007OC-61 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjp6m-0007O9-1Z - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:12 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjp6l-0001kS-VU - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:12 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE3apB9000657; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: mercurial source code control system Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:36:22 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: mercurial source code control system Cliff, On November 13, 2006 4:57 PM you wrote: ->=20 +> > Just thought you might like to know I'm installing mercurial > to try out working with build-improvements, after seeing this > interview about the Java open sourcing: > -=20 + http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Interviews/gosling_os1_qa= .ht ml @@ -37848,45 +22974,16 @@ You might be interested in the draft of a book on Mercurial: http://www.red-bean.com/~bos/hgbook.pdf -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjq1m-0004dU-St - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjq1l-0004c6-Rl - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjq1k-0004Zx-4c - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjq1j-0004Zl-Vn - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:04 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjq1j-0004q5-UW - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:04 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE4ZVb8021816; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:35:46 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:35:24 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) Gaby, On November 13, 2006 10:17 PM you wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > [ Is it normal that I don't see Ralf's messages? ] > @@ -37900,10 +22997,10 @@ been forwarded to you. Are you missing some? > Bill Page writes: > ... -> |=20 +> | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a hash > | into SmallInteger. ->=20 +> > That is not a mathematical requirement. > @@ -37913,9 +23010,9 @@ I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... ;-) > | I suppose that this means that the cost of adding > | new elements is independent of Type T. ->=20 +> > Why? ->=20 +> hash makes testing equality O(1). @@ -37930,66 +23027,31 @@ Set(S:SetCategory): FiniteSetAggregate S ... ++ \spad{insert(x,t)} and \spad{remove(x,t)} is \spad{O(n)} ... - insert_!(x, s) =3D=3D + insert_!(x, s) == for k in minIndex s .. maxIndex s repeat - s.k =3D x =3D> return s + s.k = x => return s insert_!(x, s, inc maxIndex s) ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjqXE-000815-Vv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjqXD-00080k-H7 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjqXC-00080I-QA - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjqXC-00080F-K4 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:34 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjqXC-0001E0-Cs - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8717E4F3BC; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:08:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAE53X5l030068; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:03:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAE53XrN030067; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:03:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Nov 2006 06:01:13 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] | > Bill Page writes: | > ... -| > |=20 +| > | | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a hash | > | into SmallInteger. -| >=20 +| > | > That is not a mathematical requirement. | > -|=20 +| | I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... ;-) >From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things that are @@ -37998,47 +23060,17 @@ required for a set are: (1) say how to build element of a set (2) equality test. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjtVV-0002KZ-JJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:19:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjtVT-0002K8-Ku - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjtVR-0002JK-Ph - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjtVR-0002JE-KM - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:57 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjtVR-0004yr-EJ - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:57 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GjtVJ-0005MJ-4Y; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:18:49 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GjtVJ-0004Jl-3Y; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:18:49 +0100 -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Martin Rubey +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Dear Antoine, great to see you here! -"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: +Antoine Hersen writes: > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { @@ -38080,35 +23112,10 @@ In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since QuotientFieldCategory has numer and denom. However, we should to check which definitions of "eval" should be provided. There are so many defaults... - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjzX6-0004AO-Kv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjzX4-00048R-Qo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjzX4-00047f-2j - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjzX3-00047T-Pm - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:01 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjzX4-00046s-BQ - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:02 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GjzVy-00017m-00 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:43:54 +0100 -To: list Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:43:54 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: New branch? I consider starting a new branch. I feel that Axiom needs a period @@ -38130,38 +23137,11 @@ makes changes and understanding harder, so I think that cleanups and removals should be done quickly -- accepting risks of temporary breakage. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk07X-0007Kf-6D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk07V-0007Ji-On - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk07T-0007HT-4W - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk07S-0007HL-UB - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk07T-0008CD-FD - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAEFMGjr006569; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:31 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: RE: New branch? +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:04 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: New branch? On November 14, 2006 9:44 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -38200,45 +23180,11 @@ However for each such branch I think we need someone to take primary responsibility. Is there anyone sufficiently strongly motivated to take on the task of hyperdoc improvements? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0FX-0007Mu-1X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0FV-0007KP-G9 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0FT-0007Go-Qq - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk0FT-0007Gd-MW - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk0FU-0001Rc-7x - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CF8410DF; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:30:54 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAEFPrPx008583; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:25:56 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAEFPraj008582; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:25:53 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 14 Nov 2006 16:25:53 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: New branch? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Nov 2006 16:25:53 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -38269,38 +23215,11 @@ just work on compiler-improvements branch and deal with the merges? As for the databse, I have strong feeling that we should not underestimate the work done by the dynamic libraries community. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0O5-0005MF-5S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0O2-0005Kd-MA - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0Nz-0005JJ-LH - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk0Nz-0005JE-D6 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:43 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk0Nz-0003E9-Jj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:43 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAEFdeZl009286 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:39:41 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: New branch? -Cc: list > There are at least two other possible branches that we should > consider: @@ -38322,87 +23241,27 @@ becomes silver, before I start branching from one of them. Tim, Gaby, when do you expect the build-improvements branch to be merged back to silver? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk17h-00040e-Fo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk17g-00040Q-Ch - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk17e-00040D-0t - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk17d-00040A-Rq - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:53 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk17e-00045W-76 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:54 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAEGQRgA003691 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:36 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16601 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 16:26:29 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 14 Nov 2006 16:26:29 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAEGGWT05024; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:16:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:16:32 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:42 +0100) Subject: Re: New branch? - <4559E37A.2030105@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > I actually would feel better if build-improvements is finished first and > becomes silver, before I start branching from one of them. > Tim, Gaby, when do you expect the build-improvements branch to be merged > back to silver? - All responsibility for silver/gold/release is now a community effort. It's up to everyone to decide what, when, and how things should happen. I'm working on several subtasks that are not yet ready for release so I have no changes to promote. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1BK-0005aC-5L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1BH-0005Yz-Oo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1BF-0005YX-BD - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1BF-0005YU-5U - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:37 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1BF-0004uZ-Is - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:37 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAEGU84G025802; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:23 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:29:55 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) > Bill Page writes: > | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a @@ -38411,19 +23270,19 @@ Cc: list > | Gaby wrote: > | > That is not a mathematical requirement. > | -> Bill Page wrote;=20 +> Bill Page wrote; > | I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... > | ;-) ->=20 +> On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things > that are required for a set are: ->=20 +> > (1) say how to build element of a set > (2) equality test. ->=20 +> No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. It would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far from @@ -38463,36 +23322,11 @@ in Axiom but I think this is exactly the place where computer algebra meets proof theory and is therefore ripe for further development. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1Ou-0004fh-AR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1Or-0004ch-Ro - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1Oo-0004Yh-Is - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1Oo-0004YR-5X - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:38 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1Oo-0007vY-94 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:38 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gk1Nf-0007jY-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:43:27 +0100 -Subject: Re: New branch? -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:43:27 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: New branch? Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -38546,50 +23380,12 @@ Could you elaborate: I feel that I have adequate understanding of dynamic code generation and linking but maybe I am missing something? --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1s8-0005AB-DP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1s6-00057H-Ec - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1s2-00051e-5L - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1s1-00050v-Lo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:49 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1s1-0006EK-VS - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12160 invoked by uid 7797); 14 Nov 2006 17:11:31 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.06585 secs); 14 Nov 2006 17:11:31 -0000 - Camm Maguire, list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 14 Nov 2006 17:11:31 -0000 +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:14:46 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Gabriel Dos Reis - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------060705010106010306030309 +Cc: Camm Maguire, Gabriel Dos Reis Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -38648,47 +23444,12 @@ http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ esac ---------------060705010106010306030309-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1vq-0000oC-Kq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1vp-0000m3-4t - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1vm-0000jj-NM - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1vm-0000jY-E2 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:42 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1vm-0007FY-Vh - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:43 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD15BB65 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:52 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86E1CEB0; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:50 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4655846DE03; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:39 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:34 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: @@ -38721,40 +23482,13 @@ This is great! We should disable xgcl for all of the targets. Could your update your patch accordingly and commit? I can do it but not now (unfortunately). -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2mN-0000xC-2c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:13:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2mL-0000wE-U1 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:13:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2mI-0000u3-IC - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:13:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk2mI-0000tz-Cj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:12:58 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk2mI-00020X-NJ - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:12:59 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-63-54.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-63-54.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.219.54]) - by mwinf1923.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BF7201C000B9; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:12:56 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:12:56 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -Le lundi 13 novembre 2006 =E0 21:39 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit :=20 +Le lundi 13 novembre 2006 =E0 21:39 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : [...] @@ -38763,7 +23497,7 @@ Le lundi 13 novembre 2006 =E0 21:39 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit :=20 > > that for efficiency reasons it is desirable to have some basic > > data structures underlying the mathematics where one can say > > something about the complexity of the functions. ->=20 +> > Axiom actually has a very specific notion of what it means for > one mathematical structure to underly another - representation. > In Axiom domains have an associated internal representation, Rep. @@ -38796,7 +23530,7 @@ I do not like this experimentation, in the Axiom world (more below). > > Example. You want to implement quicksort. Would someone choose > > lists to do that instead of arrays? ->=20 +> > In Axiom this is not really an appropriate question. quicksort > would be implemented in a generic manner so that it can be applied > to any domain that provides the necessary methods. In fact in the @@ -38806,13 +23540,13 @@ I do not totally agree. Yes it's good to implement default algorithm in categories but each domain has the possibility to provide its own implementation and this is a good thing. Do you want, for the exponentiation of Integers, to use the repeatedSquaring algorithm coded -in Spad ? For me it's an important question.=20 +in Spad ? For me it's an important question. [...] -> > Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials.=20 +> > Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. > > Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? ->=20 +> > This may not be such a good example since I think the difference > here is primarily related to how these domains coerce to OutputForm. @@ -38834,13 +23568,13 @@ loped areas in Axiom) so I can not argue about this, but some algorithms depends intimately on the internal representation used. -=20 + > > I hope you get somehow the feeling what I meant when I said > > that I care for data structures of graphs. We all know that > > some representation is better than the other for certain > > algorithms. > > ->=20 +> > Yes that is true and I agree that it is an important issue. Yes :-) But even for the question of implementing generic things. You hav= @@ -38893,44 +23627,13 @@ hat I think !!! PS2: I love how Axiom and Mupad (it's no longer free :-() are, conceptual= ly, implemented. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2xb-0004Hg-JQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2xZ-0004FF-Gl - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2xX-0004Cr-SO - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk2xX-0004Cd-Jr - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:35 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk2xY-0004Bb-4L - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A8B41085; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:24:33 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAEIJXn8013999; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:19:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAEIJXbs013998; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:19:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Nov 2006 19:19:32 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | > Bill Page writes: | > | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a @@ -38939,20 +23642,20 @@ Cc: list | > | Gaby wrote: | > | > That is not a mathematical requirement. | > | -| > Bill Page wrote;=20 +| > Bill Page wrote; | > | I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... | > | ;-) -| >=20 -|=20 +| > +| | On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: -|=20 +| | > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things | > that are required for a set are: -| >=20 +| > | > (1) say how to build element of a set | > (2) equality test. -| >=20 -|=20 +| > +| | No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. It | would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far from | the case. @@ -38960,7 +23663,7 @@ Cc: list How do you arrive to that conclusion? | Rather, sets should be strongly related to types. -|=20 +| | I think the "constructive mathematics" that is most suitable | to Axiom is probably is probably Intuitionist type theory | (Martin-L=F6f). See: @@ -38968,7 +23671,7 @@ How do you arrive to that conclusion? In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See chapters 1 and 2 "his" book - "Constructive Analysis",=20 + "Constructive Analysis", Erret Bishop Douglas Bridges @@ -38976,32 +23679,10 @@ and 2 "his" book >From my perspective, it shows a much deeper impact. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk4nF-00086V-2l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk4nD-00085y-Hx - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk4nC-000858-45 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk4nB-000852-Ph - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:01 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk4nC-0006dh-4S - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:02 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gk4m6-0004bQ-00 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:20:54 +0100 -To: list Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:20:54 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: src/hyper/Makefile.in Gaby, @@ -39009,44 +23690,11 @@ Gaby, You applied change in version 259 only to Makefile.in (Makefile.pamphlet stayed unchanged). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5J9-00042u-LS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5J8-00040m-7r - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5J6-00040C-Kl - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5J6-000401-DE - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5J7-0003VJ-22 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4440F45; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:54:58 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAEKnwkt017777; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:00 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAEKnwRG017776; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:49:58 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:49:57 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:49:57 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -39066,39 +23714,12 @@ the interpreter being a kind of Spad algebra over the compiler. Maybe that would also give a good way to bnatural, and better surpport for generic programming (good for Axiom!). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5Zb-0003zM-G8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:12:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5ZY-0003yN-Sy - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:12:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5ZU-0003w0-0H - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:12:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5ZT-0003vo-Qs - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:11:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5ZT-0005pJ-F7 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:11:56 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAELBkZl018478 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:11:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:12:51 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: compiler-improvements (was: src/hyper/Makefile.in) - -Cc: Stephen Watt, list +Cc: Stephen Watt Hi Gaby, @@ -39127,60 +23748,27 @@ That is what I wished for so long... It seems that with the speed of Axiom, SPAD is soon becoming the better Aldor. AFAIK, there is no move in opening Aldor. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5eq-0006aK-Bq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5en-0006X8-2O - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5ej-0006VU-Ml - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5ej-0006VN-85 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5ej-0006bY-Kj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:21 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9634F68780; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 909D86B51F; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:16 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:08 -0500 -Thread-Topic: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -Thread-Index: AccIGj3mXaVXaaT/T5aV1G5RiMrwvgAD86kg From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: -> |=20 +> | > | > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things > | > that are required for a set are: -> | >=20 +> | > > | > (1) say how to build element of a set > | > (2) equality test. -> | >=20 -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> | > +> Bill Page wrote: > | No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. > | It would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far > | from the case. On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:20 PM Gaby wrote: ->=20 +> > How do you arrive to that conclusion? > @@ -39202,21 +23790,21 @@ possible if we wish to define the set of exact real numbers such as suggested by your reference below? > | Rather, sets should be strongly related to types. -> |=20 +> | > | I think the "constructive mathematics" that is most suitable > | to Axiom is probably is probably Intuitionist type theory > | (Martin-L=F6f). See: ->=20 -> In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See=20 +> +> In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See > chapters 1 and 2 "his" book ->=20 -> "Constructive Analysis",=20 ->=20 +> +> "Constructive Analysis", +> > Erret Bishop > Douglas Bridges ->=20 +> > From my perspective, it shows a much deeper impact. ->=20 +> When it comes to the concept of exact real numbers I think you are absolutely right but is not clear to me why you would prefer @@ -39233,41 +23821,11 @@ http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman/PUBS/exactreals.pdf by Herman Geuvers et al. http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5zR-0003kL-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5zQ-0003j5-0j - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5zO-0003g9-5A - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5zN-0003fn-PH - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:41 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5zO-0001kf-78 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:42 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAELcdZl019249 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:38:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:39:45 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure - (was: Graph theory) - <1163527976.3259.111.camel@ellipse> -Cc: list +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure(was: Graph theory) >>> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. >>> Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? @@ -39292,49 +23850,18 @@ sorted LT(p) would be a O(1) operation. I cannot think of something of that complexity for recursive polynomials if the term order is chosen to be "degree reverse lexicographical". -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk61E-0005TV-U9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk61D-0005Pz-2h - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk618-0005KV-65 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk617-0005KI-RA - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:29 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk617-0001xw-40 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 203E46C395; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:26 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 37DEC6C359; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:23 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: src/hyper/Makefile.in Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0500 -Thread-Topic: src/hyper/Makefile.in -Thread-Index: AccILzCNwBy4o47gRWaK6XRXlx4eIwAA6W0g From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: src/hyper/Makefile.in On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:50 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... Ill also create a branch for trying to improve the compiler. > One of my goals is to remove the requirement for ')abbrev' > commands, "extend", and better dependent types. ->=20 +> > If we have post facto extensions, I believe we can significantly > reduce the complexity of the bootstrapping process. @@ -39353,7 +23880,7 @@ supported dependent types and extend. > over the compiler. Maybe that would also give a good way to > bnatural, and better support for generic programming (good for > Axiom!). ->=20 +> If by "Spad algebra over the compiler" you mean: implementing the interpreter in SPAD rather than Boot and Lisp, then I think this @@ -39364,38 +23891,10 @@ Finally "better support for generic programming" sounds a little frightening to me, but I can't think of anyone better suited to do this than you, Gaby. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6MQ-0002pq-GA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6MO-0002pa-Lo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6ML-0002pB-O4 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk6ML-0002p4-IR - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:25 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk6ML-000543-ET - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:25 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAEM2LZl019808 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:02:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:03:26 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure On 11/14/2006 10:17 PM, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -39445,52 +23944,18 @@ And in Axiom it is an approximation anyway, since it is Set(T), ie a collection of things of a common type T. The name "Set" is probably an exception one could accept. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6XY-0001wO-2S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:14:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6XV-0001um-Fv - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6XU-0001tV-Gj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk6XT-0001t9-Ou - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk6XT-000754-Rj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:56 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 518746E897; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:55 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6FB336E8DC; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure - (was: Graph theory) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:34 -0500 -Thread-Topic: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure - (was: Graph theory) -Thread-Index: AccINUg22cYbvq1ARQm0fTi1P7PgZQAAbSmw From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke, - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:40 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Cc: Bill Page; list -> Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure=20 +> Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure > (was: Graph theory) ->=20 -> >>> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials.=20 +> +> >>> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. > >>> Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? > > > > Bill Page wrote: @@ -39500,7 +23965,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:40 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > I totally disagree :-) This is a good example. I forgot where -> > and if this is the example used in the Axiom book but the=20 +> > and if this is the example used in the Axiom book but the > > authors insisted on this point. I do not think this is related > > only to the coercion to OutputForm. @@ -39511,9 +23976,9 @@ My statement about recursive polynomials in Axiom was incorrect. > > Axiom (which are, I think, the most developed areas in Axiom) > > so I can not argue about this, but some algorithms depends > > intimately on the internal representation used. ->=20 -> Think of implementing Buchberger's algorithm for multivariate=20 -> commutative polynomial rings. In order to test whether one=20 +> +> Think of implementing Buchberger's algorithm for multivariate +> commutative polynomial rings. In order to test whether one > polynomial is reducible with respect to another, one has to > access the exponent vector of the leading term. In a distributed > format with keeping the terms sorted LT(p) would be a O(1) @@ -39546,26 +24011,26 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/GdpolySpad arbitrary user ++ function to define a term ordering. -GeneralDistributedMultivariatePolynomial(vl,R,E): public =3D=3D private = +GeneralDistributedMultivariatePolynomial(vl,R,E): public == private = where vl: List Symbol R: Ring E: DirectProductCategory(#vl,NonNegativeInteger) - OV =3D=3D> OrderedVariableList(vl) - SUP =3D=3D> SparseUnivariatePolynomial - NNI =3D=3D> NonNegativeInteger + OV ==> OrderedVariableList(vl) + SUP ==> SparseUnivariatePolynomial + NNI ==> NonNegativeInteger - public =3D=3D PolynomialCategory(R,E,OV) with + public == PolynomialCategory(R,E,OV) with reorder: (%,List Integer) -> % ++ reorder(p, perm) applies the permutation perm to the = variables ++ in a polynomial and returns the new correctly ordered = polynomial - private =3D=3D PolynomialRing(R,E) add + private == PolynomialRing(R,E) add --representations - Term :=3D Record(k:E,c:R) - Rep :=3D List Term + Term := Record(k:E,c:R) + Rep := List Term ... and @@ -39586,56 +24051,26 @@ determined non-commutative, ++ but the variables are assumed to commute. -SparseMultivariatePolynomial(R: Ring,VarSet: OrderedSet): C =3D=3D T = +SparseMultivariatePolynomial(R: Ring,VarSet: OrderedSet): C == T = where - pgcd =3D=3D> PolynomialGcdPackage(IndexedExponents VarSet,VarSet,R,%) - C =3D=3D PolynomialCategory(R,IndexedExponents(VarSet),VarSet) - SUP =3D=3D> SparseUnivariatePolynomial - T =3D=3D add + pgcd ==> PolynomialGcdPackage(IndexedExponents VarSet,VarSet,R,%) + C == PolynomialCategory(R,IndexedExponents(VarSet),VarSet) + SUP ==> SparseUnivariatePolynomial + T == add --constants - --D :=3D F(%) replaced by next line until compiler support completed + --D := F(%) replaced by next line until compiler support completed --representations - D :=3D SparseUnivariatePolynomial(%) - VPoly:=3D Record(v:VarSet,ts:D) - Rep:=3D Union(R,VPoly) + D := SparseUnivariatePolynomial(%) + VPoly:= Record(v:VarSet,ts:D) + Rep:= Union(R,VPoly) ... ---------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7II-0002jB-Sw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7IG-0002hz-Te - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7IC-0002fp-4l - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk7IB-0002fT-Sk - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.66] (helo=elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk7IC-0005to-0H - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:12 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=eX6ccGgiy8RRC9IL6ImZiLCa7nYh2pcebvytz7mWCw6KwApbaxd9VyEoKiwrYLmF; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.152.228] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Gk7IA-0005xr-27; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:10 -0500 +Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:13:11 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:13:11 -0800 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On Mon November 13 2006 07:29, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -39649,40 +24084,11 @@ Do the versions for mips and alpha work? Tested? What is the relation of HEAD to 2.6.8pre? I have taken a brief look at this and am considering taking it on. -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7Z6-000845-0t - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7Z4-000834-FO - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7Yz-0007yf-KC - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk7Yz-0007yR-Cs - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:33 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.235] (helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk7Yz-0000G2-1M - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:33 -0500 -Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so2498151wxd - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:32 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=dlOd/Tpt21PxkZLCew0tBuSpWyqyFjmHxdRCwJ+NZxmtQ4cro8+cjJt6iZKthUHyzRXgWHSSEz7W1AzRYVI8sVlRCb58K5B4hmSjHeSogtbK2216FP/p6mUOfG9fudDucj+2uMvdysJLLREq+3is2Dyen4GgcoFokdTIrXJhBpg= -Received: by 10.70.74.7 with SMTP id w7mr1795610wxa.1163546372029; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:32 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.131.7 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:31 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:31 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor - <9q4pt2785z.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-developer Hello, @@ -39692,15 +24098,12 @@ more involved context) And I cant compile Martin one, maybe I should not assume that a Field is an INTDOM ... - - - On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > Dear Antoine, > > great to see you here! > -> "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: +> Antoine Hersen writes: > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { @@ -39741,104 +24144,69 @@ On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since QuotientFieldCategory has > numer and denom. However, we should to check which definitions of "eval" should > be provided. There are so many defaults... -> -> -> -> Martin -> -> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7x1-00028X-7W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7wy-00027i-F9 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7wx-00027V-VP - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk7wx-00027S-T0 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:19 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk7wy-0005NB-DN - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 79AC06BCD8; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:19 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5DB3E6BD6B; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:16 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:16 -0500 -Thread-Topic: [TeXmacs] WinTeXmacs - Axiom problems -Thread-Index: AccEwnSj/rL9NySsQ7CXCc8O3yxYpADfFb2A From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: list, texmacs-users@texmacs.org +To: Franz Huber Subject: RE: [TeXmacs] WinTeXmacs - Axiom problems On Friday, November 10, 2006 7:19 AM Franz wrote: ->=20 -> I=B4m a WinTeXmacs user since a few days, and I=B4m using (and=20 -> needing) it only as a frontend for Axiom (latest versions:=20 +> +> I=B4m a WinTeXmacs user since a few days, and I=B4m using (and +> needing) it only as a frontend for Axiom (latest versions: > Axiom 0.1.4 and WinTeXmacs 1.0.5). ->=20 -> First I had big problems to start an Axiom session at all (I=20 -> always got the error message "Could not create pipe" in=20 -> WinTeXmacs), until I found the reason for this problem after=20 +> +> First I had big problems to start an Axiom session at all (I +> always got the error message "Could not create pipe" in +> WinTeXmacs), until I found the reason for this problem after > quite a lot of trials: -> The line =B4(:launch "tm_axiom")=B4 of the file =B4init-axiom.scm=B4=20 +> The line =B4(:launch "tm_axiom")=B4 of the file =B4init-axiom.scm=B4 > in the folder -> =B4...\WinTeXmacs\TeXmacs\plugins\axiom\progs\init-axiom.scm=B4=20 +> =B4...\WinTeXmacs\TeXmacs\plugins\axiom\progs\init-axiom.scm=B4 > doesn=B4t work! -> When I insert a space after =B4tm_axiom=B4, then it works - so=20 +> When I insert a space after =B4tm_axiom=B4, then it works - so > this line shoud be: > (:launch "tm_axiom ") ->=20 -> Ok, at least Axiom is now =B4running=B4 under WinTeXmacs as a=20 +> +> Ok, at least Axiom is now =B4running=B4 under WinTeXmacs as a > session, but it is not =B4working=B4, at least not correctly! > There are 2 main problems I=B4ve found yet: ->=20 -> 1) Since Axiom uses a space (=B4 =B4) instead of a multiplication=20 -> character (=B4*=B4) in the output, such expressions are displayed=20 +> +> 1) Since Axiom uses a space (=B4 =B4) instead of a multiplication +> character (=B4*=B4) in the output, such expressions are displayed > terribly in WinTexmacs. -> Trying e.g. "factor(15)" displays "35" in WinTeXmacs, where=20 -> of course there actually IS a space between 3 and 5, but you=20 +> Trying e.g. "factor(15)" displays "35" in WinTeXmacs, where +> of course there actually IS a space between 3 and 5, but you > can=B4t see it (since this space is too small)! > This problem is even more dramatically for variables: > Entering e.g. "x*y-xy" gives the result "xy-xy" ... ->=20 -> 2) Even correctly formatted results from Axiom are displayed=20 +> +> 2) Even correctly formatted results from Axiom are displayed > wrong in WinTeXmacs - here=B4s only one example: > Entering "xy/y" gives the following output: > y > x- > y ->=20 -> (If that=B4s not correctly displayed here, it=B4s a "x"=20 +> +> (If that=B4s not correctly displayed here, it=B4s a "x" > immediately followed by a fraction "y/y") -> Here WinTeXmacs seem to interpret "xy" as if it would be "x=20 -> y", although Axiom is correctly returning a TeX expression=20 +> Here WinTeXmacs seem to interpret "xy" as if it would be "x +> y", although Axiom is correctly returning a TeX expression > =B4xy \over y=B4! ->=20 -> So only these 2 problems are absolutely enough, to not trust=20 -> any WinTeXmacs output of Axiom results at all - maybe you can=20 -> imagine, what terribly wrong =B4results=B4 would happen for more=20 +> +> So only these 2 problems are absolutely enough, to not trust +> any WinTeXmacs output of Axiom results at all - maybe you can +> imagine, what terribly wrong =B4results=B4 would happen for more > complicated expressions ... ->=20 +> > Is there any way to solve these problems? -> Or is there a newer version of the Axiom-WinTeXmacs interface=20 +> Or is there a newer version of the Axiom-WinTeXmacs interface > (tm_axiom) available, where these bugs have been fixed? ->=20 -> Well, I hope so - otherwise we can simply forget using Axiom=20 +> +> Well, I hope so - otherwise we can simply forget using Axiom > as a WinTeXmacs session ... :-( ->=20 +> I presume that you are aware of the following page on the Axiom Wiki? @@ -39857,7 +24225,7 @@ at the top of your TeXmacs document might help: You can also set these are default by creating an environment variable - TM_AXIOM=3D'over no, space yes' + TM_AXIOM='over no, space yes' If you have problems with the Axiom verison of tm_axiom then you can also report them here: @@ -39871,65 +24239,32 @@ or on the Axiomm Developer list BTW: Welcome to Axiom. :-) We are actively looking for people to do Axiom development on Windows. Please drop in if you are interested. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9cl-00023L-2P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9cj-00022T-PR - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9ci-00022D-KK - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk9ci-00022A-H3 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:32 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk9cj-0003g2-17 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:33 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073A84F3C3; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:31:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF1QTXo022823; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:26:31 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF1QTcJ022822; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:26:29 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 02:26:28 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) Bill Page writes: | On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: -| > |=20 +| > | | > | > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things | > | > that are required for a set are: -| > | >=20 +| > | > | > | > (1) say how to build element of a set | > | > (2) equality test. -| > | >=20 -| > Bill Page wrote:=20 +| > | > +| > Bill Page wrote: | > | No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. | > | It would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far | > | from the case. -|=20 +| | On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:20 PM Gaby wrote: -| >=20 +| > | > How do you arrive to that conclusion? | > -|=20 +| | I thought I was stating something obvious. Are you asking why I | think all sets would be finite if the only operation you require | to form sets is the ability to "build an element"? @@ -39945,29 +24280,29 @@ Why all sets would be finite. I hoenestly don't see how it is obvious. | in constructing these numbers we would be better off with at least | one more element forming operation - doubling - leading to binary | representation. -|=20 +| | However it is not clear to me that there always exists the | possibility to define a set by it's elements. For example is this | possible if we wish to define the set of exact real numbers such | as suggested by your reference below? -|=20 +| | > | Rather, sets should be strongly related to types. -| > |=20 +| > | | > | I think the "constructive mathematics" that is most suitable | > | to Axiom is probably is probably Intuitionist type theory | > | (Martin-L=F6f). See: -| >=20 -| > In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See=20 +| > +| > In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See | > chapters 1 and 2 "his" book -| >=20 -| > "Constructive Analysis",=20 -| >=20 +| > +| > "Constructive Analysis", +| > | > Erret Bishop | > Douglas Bridges -| >=20 +| > | > From my perspective, it shows a much deeper impact. -| >=20 -|=20 +| > +| | When it comes to the concept of exact real numbers I think you | are absolutely right but is not clear to me why you would prefer | this text in the context of set theory and Axiom. Can you explain? @@ -39980,53 +24315,21 @@ Reflecting my view that the requirement of "hash" is non-mathematical. | Exact reals for Axiom is a subject that we have previously | discussed on this list. See: -|=20 +| | http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/RealNumbers -|=20 +| | Here is a recent article on this subject. -|=20 +| | http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman/PUBS/exactreals.pdf -|=20 +| | by Herman Geuvers et al. http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman Thanks, I'll have a deeper look. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9fp-0005zH-DE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9fo-0005x4-6g - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9fm-0005uy-Gt - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk9fm-0005uj-C9 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:42 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk9fn-0004WG-02 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA7F40FBD; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:34:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF1TdPB022828; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:29:42 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF1Tdsj022827; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:29:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <455A3D2E.7020901@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 02:29:39 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -40059,32 +24362,10 @@ in CPO. However, the existence of 1.. in Axiom would suggest that actually some people think of List as the greatest fixed point. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkADf-0005Q6-BA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkADd-0005Ps-Fn - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkADb-0005Ow-3N - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkADa-0005Ob-TL - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:38 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkADK-0007rC-NC - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:22 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkABG-0007r4-00 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:07:14 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:07:14 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Typo in shoe description Index: src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet @@ -40101,36 +24382,11 @@ Index: src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet := BEC == DEF --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAlk-0006XE-8K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAli-0006We-99 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAle-0006Tc-FD - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAle-0006TI-7f; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:50 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GkAlG-0003Lo-EK; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:26 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GkAkS-0004NR-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:43:36 -0500 +\start +Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:43:36 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Richard Harke Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 - <200611141513.11996.Richard Harke> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:43:36 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Richard Harke writes: @@ -40170,43 +24426,12 @@ The basic idea is that each section of the .o file has a got table appended to handle the relocs that refer to the special gp register value. -Take care, - -> Richard -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAr7-0001AA-PP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAr6-00017p-2f - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAr5-00016p-4o - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkAr4-00016d-Tu - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:26 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkAqp-0003xS-8M - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:11 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GkApd-0004Oj-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:48:57 -0500 +\start +Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:48:57 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:48:57 -0500 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Greetings! @@ -40248,55 +24473,11 @@ the native relocs working, but this has taken longer than expected. It might be possible to rebind si::*load-types* at the right moment. -Thanks again! - -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkD5J-0008Br-3k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkD5I-0008Bi-1w - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkD5G-0008BO-Nh - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkD5G-0008BL-FE - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:14 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkD4z-0002iV-MR - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:12:57 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D0E4F445; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:12:07 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF577xs026865; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:07:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF577lA026864; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:07:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 15 Nov 2006 06:07:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Typo in shoe description -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Nov 2006 06:07:07 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -40317,45 +24498,14 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: yes, please commit. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEVs-0006mp-NH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEVp-0006m3-UK - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEVp-0006lf-Gq - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkEVp-0006lc-4L - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:45 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkEVo-0008UC-7V - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:44 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DD9056BAE7; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:40 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 8FC236BADE; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:39 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:24 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Thread-Index: AccIQ2DhQbmU4x+lRnmHuZiomAZgywAFxvTQ From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:20 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: ->=20 +> > I get nasty FOAM run time error with Ralf solution (I used it > in a more involved context) @@ -40363,7 +24513,7 @@ Ralf wrote: > Replace "eval(a, x, 1)" by > -> z: SingletonAsOrderedSet :=3D create(); +> z: SingletonAsOrderedSet := create(); > eval(numer a, z, 1)/eval(denom a, z, 1); I don't understand why Ralf introduces a new variable z. But @@ -40384,7 +24534,7 @@ Thus if Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) has InnerEvalable(Symbol, Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)) then { test3(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { eval(a, x, 1) } } @@ -40404,16 +24554,16 @@ is true so one way that does work is: import from NonNegativeInteger; test1(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { eval(numer a, monomial(1$F,1),1)/eval(denom a, monomial(1$F,1),1) }; -- equivalently - test(n:UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D + test(n:UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == eval(n,monomial(1$F,1),1); test2(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { map(test, a) }; @@ -40425,7 +24575,7 @@ See for example: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBox7#msg20061114232755-0600@wiki.axi om-developer.org ->=20 +> > And I cant compile Martin one, maybe I should not assume that > a Field is an INTDOM ... > @@ -40439,28 +24589,28 @@ However I agree with him that QuotientFieldCategory should probably provide a default implementation of eval such as I show above and as it does now for map. ->=20 -> On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey=20 +> +> On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey > Martin Rubey wrote: > > Dear Antoine, > > > > great to see you here! > > -> > "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: +> > Antoine Hersen writes: > > > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -> > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +> > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { > > > eval(a, x, 1) > > > } > > > > -> > I also had problems with that. In general, I think it is=20 +> > I also had problems with that. In general, I think it is > > better to avoid UP whenever possible and use SUP instead. > > > > For your problem, one workaround is to use elt instead: > > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -> > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D elt(a, 1) +> > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == elt(a, 1) > > > > (Note that 1 refers to a Fraction UP here...) > > @@ -40475,63 +24625,31 @@ This gives the error: > > > > eval : (%,Symbol,UnivariatePolynomial(x,Integer)) -> % > > -> > does not work: it seems that it is not implemented.=20 +> > does not work: it seems that it is not implemented. > > "Fraction" takes it from "QuotientFieldCategory", which > > exports it unconditionally: > > -> > QuotientFieldCategory(S: IntegralDomain): Category =3D=3D +> > QuotientFieldCategory(S: IntegralDomain): Category == > > Join(Field, Algebra S, RetractableTo S, FullyEvalableOver S, > > DifferentialExtension S, FullyLinearlyExplicitRingOver S, > > Patternable S, FullyPatternMatchable S) > > -> > However, "QuotientFieldCategory" doesn't provide a default=20 +> > However, "QuotientFieldCategory" doesn't provide a default > > definition... I guess this should be reported on issueTracker. > > Currently I don't have the time to check this more thoroughly, > > it would be interesting to see whether the compiler issues a > > warning when compiling "Fraction". > > -> > In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since=20 +> > In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since > > QuotientFieldCategory has numer and denom. However, we > > should check which definitions of "eval" should be provided. > > There are so many defaults... > > -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEmo-00023e-0T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEmm-00022K-4d - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEmj-00020g-DL - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkEmj-00020Z-AW - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkEmh-0000j0-RN - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 801A66BC34; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:11 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 603AD6BA9C; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:02 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Thread-Index: AccCsyeuDwMgrFHXT0mSJweuVuYJngF0Bbug From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Gaby, @@ -40546,13 +24664,13 @@ Regards, Bill Page. On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I propose: rename capital Greek letters according to > Bill Page proposal. Adjust 'util.ht' to match (all other > hypertex pages should access Greek letters only via macros -> defined in 'util.ht'). =20 -> Next, remove 'ATX=3DB.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. ->=20 +> defined in 'util.ht'). +> Next, remove 'ATX=B.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. +> > Those changes should solve problems with duplicate filenames on > case insensitive filesystems. > @@ -40587,7 +24705,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: +\newcommand{\Lambda}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/Lambda-cap.bitmap}} \newcommand{\large}{} \newcommand{\ldots}{...} - \newcommand{\le}{<=3D} + \newcommand{\le}{<=} @@ -282,41 +282,41 @@ \newcommand{\nabla}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nabla.bitmap}} \newcommand{\nu}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nu.bitmap}} @@ -40638,45 +24756,10 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: \newcommand{\zeta}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/zeta.bitmap}} \newcommand{\bs}{\\} ---=20 -> -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch=20 ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFec-0001qA-7M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFea-0001nr-3U - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFeY-0001m0-BB - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkFeY-0001lm-0d - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:50 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkFeH-0002I5-Rv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473E14110F; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:57:08 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF7q5XB028955; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:52:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF7q530028954; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:52:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 08:52:04 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page writes: @@ -40690,42 +24773,11 @@ Yes. During the conversion, I thought I agreed with this renaming you proposed. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFkm-0000yT-84 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFkk-0000xf-F6 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFki-0000xE-T8 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkFki-0000xB-OV - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:12 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkFkS-0003ZV-2A - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:03:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9724F467; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:03:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF7wS7c029031; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:58:30 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF7wSZw029030; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:58:28 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 15 Nov 2006 08:58:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Nov 2006 08:58:27 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -40742,44 +24794,12 @@ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=30927504&forum_id=48483 Is it possible you're at a wrong local tree? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkG4y-0004GM-C7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkG4v-0004Cu-Mc - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkG4s-00049T-Q8 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkG4s-00048R-0d - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkG4r-0007HT-PU - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DB84F3DE - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:24:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF8JvZS029473 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:19:59 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF8JviY029472; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:19:57 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 09:19:57 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: [build-improvements] fix boottoclc description - boottoclc translates .boot files to .clisp files (and not .oclisp). -- Gaby @@ -40829,68 +24849,39 @@ boottoclc translates .boot files to .clisp files (and not .oclisp). BOOTTOCLC fn==BOOTTOCLCLINES(nil,fn) - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkI8R-0000fK-92 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkI8O-0000ed-EH - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkI8M-0000d1-3O - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkI8L-0000cu-Mr - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:45 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkI8L-0006M8-Q7 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3853C6BA55; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:45 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 418326BA1F; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:43 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:41 -0500 -Thread-Topic: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure -Thread-Index: AccIVj08prQmxLwLQQmqHiAt4cIzIwAMrKaQ From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: +To: list Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: ->=20 +> > [...] ->=20 +> > | ++ A set over a domain D models the usual mathematical notion of > | ++ a finite set of elements from D. -> |=20 +> | > | Although -> |=20 +> | > | i: Integer -> |=20 +> | > | and -> |=20 +> | > | s: FinitePowerSet T -> |=20 +> | > | would be in perfect analogy if one read ":" as "element of", then > | to go on "l: List T" would mean "List" is the container of all > | finite sequences (with some information about their representation > | (linked list)). On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:30 PM Gaby wrote: -> =20 +> > And that would match the usual definition of List as the least fixed > point of the functor ->=20 +> > X |-> 1 + X ->=20 +> > in CPO. In case anyone is wondering what Gaby is talking about, I think the @@ -40910,8 +24901,8 @@ Hopefully a future paper will deal more specifically with Axiom. :-) In Axiom List could be defined something like this - List(T:Type):ListAggregate =3D=3D add - Rep =3D=3D Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) + List(T:Type):ListAggregate == add + Rep == Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) ... (perhaps it is in Aldor?) but in fact the actual definition refers @@ -40932,10 +24923,10 @@ See also http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~pni/Papers/index.html ->=20 +> > However, the existence of 1.. in Axiom would suggest that actually > some people think of List as the greatest fixed point. ->=20 +> I don't think so. @@ -40959,39 +24950,10 @@ streams. E.g. (2) [0,1,- 1,2,- 2,3,- 3,4,- 4,5,...] Type: Stream Integer - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIbb-0002uk-L4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIba-0002tc-G7 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIbY-0002ro-Oz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkIbY-0002rX-DD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:56 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkIbY-0003Xi-80 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:56 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAFB6lZl010846 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:06:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:07:57 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure >> And that would match the usual definition of List as the least fixed @@ -41070,43 +25032,11 @@ available for Axiom, but for the underlying compilation we still need the Aldor compiler. So, Gaby, I consider Aldor-combinat a testcase for the compiler-improvements branch. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIg4-0005fk-Ly - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIg3-0005fW-Pz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIfy-0005Zw-Ts - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkIfy-0005Zp-QD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:30 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkIfy-0004Z6-Tv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:31 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIfu-0005Zb-Qa; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:11:26 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIfu-0005Wr-OL; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:11:26 +0100 -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical - structure -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Nov 2006 12:11:26 +0100 -Cc: list - +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Bill Page writes: > [...] It defines a List as the least fixed @@ -41133,44 +25063,11 @@ you'll have to read the docs. It's Ralf who made this possible, I'd like to add. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIlf-0001P8-R1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIld-0001LV-4Y - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIlY-0001CD-1P - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkIlX-0001C2-Sq - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:15 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkIlX-0005SJ-QG - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:16 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIlW-00068t-HK; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:17:14 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIlW-0005j1-EZ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:17:14 +0100 -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical - structure - <455AF50D.3010307@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Nov 2006 12:17:14 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -41187,34 +25084,11 @@ gives those recursively generated domains more structure. For example, one would maybe like to construct a specific binary tree, or take two and add them together and so on. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJ9n-0002pc-Gw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJ9m-0002pH-E2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJ9k-0002mf-Ln - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkJ9k-0002mW-H2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkJ9k-0000h0-57 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:16 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkJ5Y-0007TN-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:37:56 +0100 -Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:37:56 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -41236,34 +25110,10 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Yes, that was a local problem (probably due to NFS) -- I see correct file now. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJVf-00036B-PT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:04:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJVc-00032M-WF - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:04:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJVa-0002yD-3e - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:04:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkJVZ-0002xj-RQ - for list; 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Two different "eval"s, where yours is probably a bit more general. I don't believe that they end up in the same implementation. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJs4-0005p0-Ow - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:28:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJs1-0005n3-Tf - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:28:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJrz-0005lG-Pw - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:28:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkJrz-0005l8-Ft - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkJrz-0002bp-HY - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:27:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25754 invoked by uid 7797); 15 Nov 2006 12:24:55 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.057591 secs); 15 Nov 2006 12:24:55 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.96?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 15 Nov 2006 12:24:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:27:53 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: @@ -41557,55 +25312,13 @@ passed on to make in the lsp directory A make distclean in the toplevel leaves the broken gcl in the lsp directory, so I'm deleting the whole source tree between every build. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKBr-0004mS-Lb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:43:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - <455B07C9.3080506@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:43:22 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: [...] @@ -41616,85 +25329,54 @@ Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: I'm looking into it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKIh-0001yi-O0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKIf-0001wv-Jd - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKIe-0001vo-IP - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKIe-0001vi-Ad - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKIc-0001Uz-SZ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 15CCE741A2; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:30 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9D9727406B; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:12 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Thread-Index: AccIr399pqmD6ZawS1ikgWlyQbxgvgAAWclA From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Ralf,=20 +Ralf, On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:14 AM you wrote: ->=20 +> > >> And I cant compile Martin one, maybe I should not assume that > >> a Field is an INTDOM ... ->=20 +> > > No it not necessary to assume that a Field is an INTDOM. ->=20 +> > But it is true. ->=20 -> Field(): Category =3D=3D = +> +> Field(): Category == = Join(EuclideanDomain,UniqueFactorizationDomain, > DivisionRing) with ... -> EuclideanDomain(): Category =3D=3D PrincipalIdealDomain with ... -> PrincipalIdealDomain(): Category =3D=3D GcdDomain with ... -> GcdDomain(): Category =3D=3D IntegralDomain with ... +> EuclideanDomain(): Category == PrincipalIdealDomain with ... +> PrincipalIdealDomain(): Category == GcdDomain with ... +> GcdDomain(): Category == IntegralDomain with ... > You are right. I was not clear. I meant it is not necessary to assume it *as an additional assumption* since it is true by Axiom's definition of Field. But it is irrelevant to this problem. -=20 + > > I also don't understand Martin's workaround since Fraction does > > not export elt with this signature. ->=20 +> > But ... ->=20 +> > UnivariatePolynomial(x:Symbol, R:Ring): > UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R) with ... ->=20 -> UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R:Ring): Category =3D=3D +> +> UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R:Ring): Category == > ... > if R has IntegralDomain then > Eltable(Fraction %, Fraction %) > elt : (Fraction %, Fraction %) -> Fraction % -> ++ elt(a,b) evaluates the fraction of univariate=20 +> ++ elt(a,b) evaluates the fraction of univariate > polynomials \spad{a} > ++ with the distinguished variable replaced by b. ->=20 +> > So Martin's suggestion does not sound so wrong to me. ->=20 +> Yes. However as I said, Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) does not export elt so the workaround cannot work as it was written. @@ -41702,7 +25384,7 @@ not export elt so the workaround cannot work as it was written. I tried writing: test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) =3D=3D +UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) == elt(a,1$Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)))$UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) @@ -41721,7 +25403,7 @@ Integer),UnivariatePolynomial(x,Fraction Integer)) -> % in the example below. This is the eval that I used in my version. -(1) -> F:=3DFRAC INT +(1) -> F:=FRAC INT (1) Fraction Integer Type: Domain @@ -41770,44 +25452,10 @@ Integer),UnivariatePolynomial(x,Fraction Integer)) -> % ... wholePart : % -> UnivariatePolynomial(x,Fraction Integer) ------------ - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKKl-0002ra-HG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKKk-0002r4-JA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKKj-0002qQ-J1 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKKj-0002qF-Ci - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKKj-0002Cu-GA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:41 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5914F3DE; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:57:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFCqamn001269; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:52:38 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFCqaOt001268; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:52:36 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:52:36 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -41848,42 +25496,10 @@ Please let separate the patches: (2) one for deletiing the redundant file -- also must contain explanation of why. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKRM-0007fe-K4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKRJ-0007dn-4E - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKRF-0007bj-Vv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKRF-0007bP-LM - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKRD-0004QZ-Tg - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:24 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF3C411D8; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:04:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFCxJ55001389; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:59:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFCxJYB001388; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:59:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <455AF50D.3010307@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:59:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -41904,12 +25520,12 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: | > X |-> 1 + T x X | > Hopefully a future paper will deal more specifically with Axiom. :-) | > In Axiom List could be defined something like this -| > List(T:Type):ListAggregate =3D=3D add -| > Rep =3D=3D Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) +| > List(T:Type):ListAggregate == add +| > Rep == Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) | > ... | > (perhaps it is in Aldor?) but in fact the actual definition refers | > directly to the underlying Lisp architecture. -|=20 +| | I had no need to define List this way, but what about binary trees? The definition you gave is it: least fixed point of @@ -41921,21 +25537,21 @@ The interesting bit about those inductive definition is that they come with "fold" (reduce in Axiom-speak) for free. | The following code snipped is from Aldor-Combinat and it is running code. -|=20 +| | ---BEGIN test/species.as.nw | [snip] -|=20 -| testRecursive1(): () =3D=3D { +| +| testRecursive1(): () == { | macro { -| I =3D=3D EmptySetSpecies; -| X =3D=3D SingletonSpecies; -| + =3D=3D Plus; -| * =3D=3D Times; +| I == EmptySetSpecies; +| X == SingletonSpecies; +| + == Plus; +| * == Times; | } -|=20 -| A(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L =3D=3D (I + X*A*A)(L) ad= +| +| A(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L == (I + X*A*A)(L) ad= d; -|=20 +| | import from Integer, Array Integer; | checkExpOrd( | A, @@ -41943,18 +25559,18 @@ d; | [1, 1, 2, 5, 14, 42] | ); | } -|=20 +| | [snap] | ---END test/species.as.nw -|=20 +| | If you want List the line should be simply ... -|=20 -| MyList(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L =3D=3D (I + X*MyList)(L) = +| +| MyList(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L == (I + X*MyList)(L) = add; -|=20 +| | Well, but in LibAldor List is not defined as a real Union. It rather | relies on the fact that an actual record can never be the nil pointer. -|=20 +| | Oh, by the way, the above recursive definition of binary trees not | only defines the data structure but also the exponential and ordinary | generating series. So one could ask how many trees are there with 7 @@ -41963,7 +25579,7 @@ add; Yes! -|=20 +| | Recently, Martin Rubey has done some work to make Aldor-combinat | available for Axiom, but for the underlying compilation we still need | the Aldor compiler. So, Gaby, I consider Aldor-combinat a testcase for @@ -41971,32 +25587,10 @@ Yes! OK, I don't feel it like a pressure :-) :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKx2-0003in-Ue - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKx0-0003ga-4G - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKwx-0003f9-Re - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKwx-0003et-F2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:11 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKwx-00006R-Gn - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:11 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkKvk-0006hA-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:35:56 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:35:56 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42058,34 +25652,10 @@ I find such "explanation" silly: we have version control and change logs to keep history. And does not explain anything about the system _after_ the fix is applied. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkL89-0001Ua-70 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkL88-0001U5-9R - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkL87-0001TZ-FQ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkL87-0001TG-14 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:43 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkL87-0003CY-AW - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:43 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkL6w-000743-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:47:30 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:47:30 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: compiler-improvements Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -42101,43 +25671,10 @@ to avoid fuss about trivial details. For experimental work that would be deadly. And even on "release" branch I think you go too far. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM7o-000453-CV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM7n-000442-Gv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM7k-00042E-U0 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkM7k-000425-Ox - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkM7k-0001vE-Tn - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:25 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FFA40ED9; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:52:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFElJQf004091; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:47:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFElJII004090; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:47:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 15:47:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42204,41 +25741,10 @@ they are no substitute for documentation files (which are the pamphlets). You're making invaluable contributions to Axiom; let's make sure we don't end up in the same trap as current system. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM92-0005Qw-B4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM90-0005Pl-Rb - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM8y-0005NQ-Sz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkM8y-0005NA-N7 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkM8y-0002Hy-KZ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB174F433; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:53:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFEmZn3004098; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:48:37 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFEmZrG004097; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:48:35 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 15:48:35 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: compiler-improvements Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42256,47 +25762,16 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Please, consider that you're free to make branches at any time. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkMuf-00064u-AL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkMud-00064L-HB - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkMuc-000648-Vd - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkMuc-000645-Px - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:54 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkMud-000507-3K - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 64B236BA97; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 8AC096BC35; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:51 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:48 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Thread-Index: AccIxbF8NhNVLp89SMmdORbfsxkyaAAA2bgg From: Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch Subject: RE: Ping: case insensitive filesystems On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:47 AM Gaby wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > Not because you can come up with a silly explanation means that -> any explanation should be silly. Please, let's keep things in=20 +> any explanation should be silly. Please, let's keep things in > perspective. > @@ -42313,7 +25788,7 @@ explanation. That is why it is so easy to write such explanation in the form of email. But we can also assign the responsibility of writing documentation based on the explanations to the 2nd person. Also they can ask important questions when the explanation -is not clear. It can be their main contribution to the work.=20 +is not clear. It can be their main contribution to the work. My suggestiong is that when we start to work on a patch, we first ask on the axiom-developer list for someone to play the role of @@ -42322,12 +25797,12 @@ bold enough to work on Axiom themselves yet to get started. Yes, I would agree to act as the 2nd person and write such documentation from time to time. :-) -=20 + > What about: ->=20 +> > There are two files for each (special) character glyph, one > for the upper case form, and one for the lower case form. -> Historically, the names for these files used to differ only in the=20 +> Historically, the names for these files used to differ only in the > first character (which is upper case for the upper case form). > That was non-portable and caused griefs on brain damaged file > systems that identify themselves as ``case preserving, case @@ -42335,16 +25810,16 @@ documentation from time to time. :-) > the same file. Consequently, the files for the upper case form > have been renamed to xxx-cap.ps, where "xxx" used to be the > historic name. ->=20 +> > ? ->=20 +> > Please feel free to elaborate/improve it. ->=20 +> Here Gaby has done a excellent job as 2nd person. If I were Waldek I would just take this and add it to the pamphlet file. :-) ->=20 +> > I'm of the opinion that you get should in the habit of including > explanation in the pamphlets when you submit them for consideration. > I would like to see the changes explained. One reason, in this @@ -42352,54 +25827,22 @@ I would just take this and add it to the pamphlet file. :-) > back to trunk (whatever it is called) there will be differences and > conflicts, and I would hate to have to spend hours in front of a > browser digging in the archive. Yes, we have ChangeLog files, but -> they are no substitute for documentation files (which are the=20 +> they are no substitute for documentation files (which are the > pamphlets). I agree. ->=20 +> > You're making invaluable contributions to Axiom; let's make sure > we don't end up in the same trap as current system. Thanks! ->=20 +> I think we can work together to make sure that does not happen. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN4z-0002A6-Vy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN4x-000274-0J - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN4t-00021g-Le - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkN4t-00021O-81 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkN4t-0006pB-JL - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFC740E27; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:53:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFFmPIB005599; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:48:28 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFFmPXK005598; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:48:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 16:48:25 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page writes: @@ -42418,32 +25861,10 @@ That would definitely increase the among of shared knowledge. OK, you're officially appointed as that second person :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN7p-0004zI-8V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN7m-0004xE-B6 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN7k-0004vq-V0 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkN7k-0004vJ-Ft - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:28 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkN7k-0007X7-BD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:28 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkN6K-0006Ka-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:55:00 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:55:00 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems > Not because you can come up with a silly explanation means that any @@ -42502,43 +25923,10 @@ has place in documentation only if it explains _significant_ aspect of current system. In case of current filename change past status really tells you nothing about new system. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNf6-00042I-Di - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNf4-00041N-KG - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNf3-00040O-0C - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkNf2-00040H-TO - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:52 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkNf2-00078m-TA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB81D4F4B0; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:30:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFGPlwC006942; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:25:49 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFGPlMJ006941; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:25:47 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:25:47 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42656,48 +26044,12 @@ too. I tend to agree. Except that this is a *branch* we are going to merge back to trunk. We need to know why we did a change. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpt-0007xs-TI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpq-0007uH-RC - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpn-0007pf-CT - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkNpm-0007p8-UC - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:41:59 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkMn6-0003HX-5b - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:35:09 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE22B0AC - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:35:02 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D79AEFC; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:34:53 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5770846DE03; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:34:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:34:47 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - BOUNDARY="-559023410-758783491-1163604887=:20095" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. @@ -42903,44 +26255,12 @@ bV9nY2xfbW1fb3B0aW9uICRheGlvbV9nY2xfeF9vcHRpb24iDQorIA0KICBB Q19TVUJTVChQTEYpDQogIEFDX1NVQlNUKENDRikNCiAgQUNfU1VCU1QoTERG KQ0K ----559023410-758783491-1163604887=:20095-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNq2-00088M-Fz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNq0-00085L-JA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpw-00081A-8w - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkNpv-00080P-HW - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:07 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkNI6-0001cU-VZ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:07:11 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A8E410C4 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:07:09 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFG26p2006421 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:02:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFG26Yb006420; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:02:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:02:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: boottocl and boottoclc - The main difference between boottran::boottocl and boottran::boottoclc is that the latter includes the Boot codes (as comment) in translation. @@ -42962,35 +26282,10 @@ fixing boottocllines instead. If you know more about this, please let me know. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkO3Q-0003Fj-Gb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:56:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkO3N-0003CE-CI - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:56:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkO3K-00039w-Pb - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:56:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkO3J-000397-IM - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:55:57 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkO3J-0005OJ-PD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:55:58 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9980A4F3E0 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:55:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1GkO3G-0001Xz-TH - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:55:54 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:55:54 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: )set expose add constructor doesn't expose Hello, @@ -43032,63 +26327,30 @@ There are some *.input files for testing axiom in the main axiom Makefile. How can I rerun them and compare the results between the native expand command and mine ? -Have a good day ! - -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOLp-0003ao-Fg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:15:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOLn-0003YS-L5 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:15:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOLk-0003Uk-PR - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:15:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkOLk-0003Tu-Cf - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:15:00 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkOLk-00022W-8O - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:15:00 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AE2B36C70C; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:14:59 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id B4A846C6D3; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:14:58 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:14:57 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Thread-Index: AccIzjgbtVH2eUOPTMqH1njOJ25cAgACvqwg From: Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch Subject: RE: Ping: case insensitive filesystems On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:48 AM Gaby wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page writes: ->=20 +> > [...] ->=20 +> > | My suggestiong is that when we start to work on a patch, we first > | ask on the axiom-developer list for someone to play the role of > | 2nd person. Perhaps this is a way for people who do not yet feel > | bold enough to work on Axiom themselves yet to get started. ->=20 +> > That would definitely increase the among of shared knowledge. ->=20 +> > | Yes, I would agree to act as the 2nd person and write such > | documentation from time to time. :-) ->=20 +> > OK, you're officially appointed as that second person :-) ->=20 +> Here is my proposed documentation patch to src/hyper/Makefile: @@ -43105,9 +26367,9 @@ $ diff -au Makefile.pamphlet_orig Makefile.pamphlet +For more information about hese bitmaps see 'util.ht' in the +section 'pages', below. + - <>=3D + <>= mouse11.bitmap: $(srcdir)/bitmaps.pamphlet - $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3Dmouse11.bitmap --output=3D$@ = + $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=mouse11.bitmap --output=$@ = $< @@ -236,6 +241,17 @@ @ @@ -43153,44 +26415,10 @@ During We need to make sure that [[ht.db]], the hypertex database file is up to date. The file contains absolute offsets into the various ----------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOvX-00052P-FG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:51:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOvW-00050v-DH - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:51:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOvU-0004xs-Sv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:51:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkOvU-0004xc-BD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:51:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkOvU-00026i-Kz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:51:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19B4F4CB; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:51:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFHkoOV009776; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:46:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFHko0c009775; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:46:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 18:46:50 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page writes: @@ -43218,70 +26446,18 @@ Bill Page writes: That is excellent! Go! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOxO-0000VB-Se - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:53:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOxN-0000T9-Sm - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:53:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOxM-0000QI-Mk - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:53:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkOxM-0000Ps-Hl - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:53:52 -0500 -Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GkOxM-0002QI-P2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:53:53 -0500 -Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOwt-0005yW-6u - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:53:24 +0100 -Received: from pool-71-104-91-123.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.104.91.123]) - by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) - id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:53:23 +0100 -Received: from simon by pool-71-104-91-123.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net with local - (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:53:23 +0100 -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:50 -0800 - <200611061852.kA6IqYn21067@localhost.localdomain> +From: Simon Michael +To: list Subject: Re: The 30 Year Horizon Bravo! Thank you Tim. Your work and writings are inspiring. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQfz-0001w0-3f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:44:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQfw-0001sz-Oj - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:44:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQfu-0001oN-Er - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:43:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkQfu-0001o1-00 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:43:58 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkQfu-00038t-2h - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:43:58 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkQen-0003vQ-00 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:42:49 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:42:49 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Loading of databases The following patch makes caching of databases effective and @@ -43427,126 +26603,20 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/s <> <> - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQlp-0003fH-OL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:50:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQlm-0003bz-T6 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:50:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQlk-0003ZM-NY - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:50:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkQlk-0003YY-BQ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:50:00 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkQlk-0004ty-MB - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:50:00 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkQke-00046R-00 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:48:52 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:48:52 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: wh-sandbox I created now a new branch named wh-sandbox. ATM there only new file id README.wh, but in few days there will be more changes. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQol-0007U9-TM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:53:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQol-0007Tu-5z - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:53:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQoj-0007Sn-L3 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:53:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkQoj-0007SQ-C6 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:53:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.20] (helo=mail.synthesis.anikast.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkQob-0005Vv-0f - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:53:05 -0500 -From: Bill Page -Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:53:06 -0500 -Subject: test - -test - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQsC-0001QV-E1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:56:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQsB-0001Ph-1y - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:56:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkQs7-0001Nm-By - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:56:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkQs7-0001Ni-6w - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:56:35 -0500 -Received: from [217.77.209.38] (helo=mail.synthesis.anikast.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkQs2-00068t-3n - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:56:35 -0500 -From: Bill Page -Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:56:38 -0500 -Subject: (no subject) - -quit - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkR1S-00078h-Ip - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:06:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkR1R-000785-23 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:06:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkR1O-00076X-5V - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:06:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkR1O-00076S-0E - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:06:10 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkR1N-0000eR-Nl - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:06:09 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3A240ED6; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:06:07 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFK14vk013713; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:01:06 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFK14GA013712; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:01:04 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Loading of databases From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Date: 15 Nov 2006 21:01:04 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -43562,54 +26632,26 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: OK; thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkTxI-0001uI-RW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:14:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkTxH-0001u7-Fz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:14:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkTxF-0001tV-1l - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:14:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkTxE-0001tR-Uf - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:14:04 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkTxC-0000kP-UL - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:14:04 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAFNDtMq003060 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:13:56 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:15:13 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure > The definition you gave is it: least fixed point of ->=20 +> > X |-> 1 + T =D7 X =D7 X -Hmmm, good question. In Aldor-combinat (AC) we deal with combinatorial=20 -species. They encode actual structures. The corresponding generating=20 -series G(x) for binary trees given by your X above has to fulfil the=20 +Hmmm, good question. In Aldor-combinat (AC) we deal with combinatorial +species. They encode actual structures. The corresponding generating +series G(x) for binary trees given by your X above has to fulfil the equation -G(x) =3D 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) +G(x) = 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) As a quadratic formula it has at most 2 solutions. And only one of those = -solution is a power series with only non-negative coefficients. Since I=20 +solution is a power series with only non-negative coefficients. Since I don't know what it should mean to say "there are -5 trees with 3 nodes", = it is clear which solution I choose for the generating series. @@ -43618,7 +26660,7 @@ Assuming that I understand a bit of the theory of species, then there is = only *one* solution to - X =3D 1 + T * X * X. + X = 1 + T * X * X. We are not yet dealing with "virtual species" which would allow negative = @@ -43627,11 +26669,11 @@ coefficients in the generating series. > The interesting bit about those inductive definition is that they come > with "fold" (reduce in Axiom-speak) for free. -Hmmm, lazyness is important here. Unfortunately the internal definition=20 -of formal power series in AC does not allow to write equation (+) as=20 +Hmmm, lazyness is important here. Unfortunately the internal definition +of formal power series in AC does not allow to write equation (+) as such. One first has to say (something like) -g: FormalPowerSeries Integer :=3D new(); +g: FormalPowerSeries Integer := new(); set!(g, 1+x*g*g); where x corresponds to the inteterminate of "FormalPowerSeries Integer". @@ -43647,51 +26689,19 @@ r No. No pressure intended. It's just something to motivate you. ;-) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUVf-0005hm-DU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUVd-0005hg-E9 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUVb-0005hU-CB - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkUVb-0005hR-8l - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:35 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkUVb-00005g-Bv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1CEE867142; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:34 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 442A667029; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:33 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:49:32 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Thread-Index: AccI3sPxy4nGJWJASauWiOfaP4xY6wAL0cqw From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list Subject: RE: Ping: case insensitive filesystems On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:47 PM Gaby wrote: > ... -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> Bill Page wrote: > | Here is my proposed documentation patch to src/hyper/Makefile: ->=20 +> > That is excellent! Go! ->=20 +> Ok, done. I compiled Axiom with the two patches - one for file renames and one for file cleanup @@ -43728,33 +26738,10 @@ Notice how it appears as if the *.NRLIB directory is deleted before the order of the echo statements. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUnt-0007wW-7j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:08:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUns-0007wF-AH - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:08:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUno-0007vh-Ot - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:08:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkUno-0007ve-Lc - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:08:24 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkUno-0004ES-8N - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:08:24 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkUmd-0001nX-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:07:11 +0100 -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:07:11 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page wrote: @@ -43804,44 +26791,10 @@ compilation and "| cat" if we want all messages. Note that once we remove '@' char the first echo command is useless, since the second line contains requested information. - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUzF-0001Bs-1S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:20:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUzD-00019w-Gm - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:20:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkUzB-00016O-My - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:20:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkUzB-00015v-F0 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:20:09 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkUzB-0005y6-Fh - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:20:09 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C985B4106D; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:20:06 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAG0F20H020567; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:15:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAG0F27M020566; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:15:02 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 16 Nov 2006 01:15:02 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page writes: @@ -43856,41 +26809,11 @@ Bill Page writes: No, that is fine. Waldek explained why it is better they are committed jointly. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkV0F-0002oW-No - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:21:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkV0D-0002je-GG - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:21:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkV0B-0002ea-4k - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:21:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkV0A-0002eC-UY - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:21:10 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkV0B-00068b-0S - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:21:11 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAG0L9Mq005621 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:21:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:22:26 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Cc: axiom-developer On 11/15/2006 01:55 PM, Page, Bill wrote: > I tried writing: @@ -43975,69 +26898,35 @@ actually holds. I am certainly missing something. That compiling test2 fails is certainly in connection with elt=apply. Who knows... -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkV4N-0001QF-87 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:25:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkV4M-0001Oj-4K - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:25:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkV4K-0001Mz-QN - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:25:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkV4K-0001Mw-Ak - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:25:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkV4K-0006jT-IV - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:25:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9DB40E35; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:25:25 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAG0KMu7020972; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:20:24 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAG0KMBZ020971; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:20:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <455AF50D.3010307@hemmecke.de> - - <455B9F81.3070601@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Nov 2006 01:20:22 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: | > The definition you gave is it: least fixed point of | > X |-> 1 + T =D7 X =D7 X -|=20 +| | Hmmm, good question. In Aldor-combinat (AC) we deal with combinatorial | species. They encode actual structures. The corresponding generating | series G(x) for binary trees given by your X above has to fulfil the | equation -|=20 -| G(x) =3D 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) -|=20 +| +| G(x) = 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) +| | As a quadratic formula it has at most 2 solutions. And only one of | those solution is a power series with only non-negative | coefficients. Since I don't know what it should mean to say "there are | -5 trees with 3 nodes", it is clear which solution I choose for the | generating series. -|=20 +| | Assuming that I understand a bit of the theory of species, then there | is only *one* solution to -|=20 -| X =3D 1 + T * X * X. -|=20 +| +| X = 1 + T * X * X. +| | We are not yet dealing with "virtual species" which would allow | negative coefficients in the generating series. @@ -44048,87 +26937,59 @@ terms of numerical coefficient. | > The interesting bit about those inductive definition is that they come | > with "fold" (reduce in Axiom-speak) for free. -|=20 +| | Hmmm, lazyness is important here. Unfortunately the internal | definition of formal power series in AC does not allow to write | equation (+) as such. One first has to say (something like) -|=20 -| g: FormalPowerSeries Integer :=3D new(); +| +| g: FormalPowerSeries Integer := new(); | set!(g, 1+x*g*g); -|=20 +| | where x corresponds to the inteterminate of "FormalPowerSeries Integer". Aha! Good point. Now, I just need you to point me to a good introductory point on species. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkVGZ-0008VN-Iq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:38:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkVGV-0008P2-Lw - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:38:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkVGS-0008MN-AH - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:38:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkVGR-0008Lv-Ug - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:38:00 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkVGR-0000v0-Jl - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:37:59 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAG0boMq006191 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:37:51 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:39:08 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis - -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure On 11/16/2006 01:20 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: ->=20 +> > | > The definition you gave is it: least fixed point of > | > X |-> 1 + T =D7 X =D7 X -> |=20 +> | > | Hmmm, good question. In Aldor-combinat (AC) we deal with combinatoria= l > | species. They encode actual structures. The corresponding generating > | series G(x) for binary trees given by your X above has to fulfil the > | equation -> |=20 -> | G(x) =3D 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) -> |=20 +> | +> | G(x) = 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) +> | > | As a quadratic formula it has at most 2 solutions. And only one of > | those solution is a power series with only non-negative > | coefficients. Since I don't know what it should mean to say "there ar= e > | -5 trees with 3 nodes", it is clear which solution I choose for the > | generating series. -> |=20 +> | > | Assuming that I understand a bit of the theory of species, then there= > | is only *one* solution to -> |=20 -> | X =3D 1 + T * X * X. -> |=20 +> | +> | X = 1 + T * X * X. +> | > | We are not yet dealing with "virtual species" which would allow > | negative coefficients in the generating series. ->=20 +> > I realize my sentence could be ambiguous: I meant "least fixed point > in the category of continuous partial orders (CPO)." -Well, it seems you have to be even more precise. I still cannot=20 +Well, it seems you have to be even more precise. I still cannot understand that. You mean X, 1, T are continuous partial orders? And what does then + and =D7 stand for? @@ -44139,53 +27000,20 @@ The short one you find at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_species -and the book I currently like best is given as the second reference on=20 +and the book I currently like best is given as the second reference on the above page: Fran=E7ois Bergeron, Gilbert Labelle, Pierre Leroux, Th=E9orie des esp=E8= -ces=20 -et combinatoire des structures arborescentes, LaCIM, Montr=E9al (1994).=20 -English version: Combinatorial Species and Tree-like Structures,=20 +ces +et combinatoire des structures arborescentes, LaCIM, Montr=E9al (1994). +English version: Combinatorial Species and Tree-like Structures, Cambridge University Press (1998). -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkVoT-0003pe-Ko - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:13:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkVoR-0003nE-Tm - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:13:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkVoQ-0003n2-BM - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:13:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkVoQ-0003mz-7w - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:13:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkVoA-0000vC-Ag - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:12:50 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDF4411D6; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:12:47 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAG17iCl021747; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:07:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAG17i4n021746; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:07:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 16 Nov 2006 02:07:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor - <455BAF42.4060506@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Nov 2006 02:07:44 +0100 -Cc: axiom-developer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -44209,46 +27037,10 @@ I don't if it is of any help, see ax.boot: opOf name = 'One => '_1 error "bad op name" --- gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWLC-0005A4-36 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:46:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWLB-00058e-0q - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:46:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWL9-000558-5G - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:46:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkWL8-00054o-Uj - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:46:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkWL9-0001qv-6m - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:46:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE7F4F45F; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:46:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAG1fmGM022503; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:41:51 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAG1fm5P022502; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:41:48 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <455AF50D.3010307@hemmecke.de> - - <455B9F81.3070601@hemmecke.de> - - <455BB32C.1020402@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Nov 2006 02:41:44 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -44262,7 +27054,7 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: | > | species. They encode actual structures. The corresponding generating | > | series G(x) for binary trees given by your X above has to fulfil the | > | equation -| > | | G(x) =3D 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) +| > | | G(x) = 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) | > | | As a quadratic formula it has at most 2 solutions. And only one | > of | > | those solution is a power series with only non-negative @@ -44272,29 +27064,29 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: | > | | Assuming that I understand a bit of the theory of species, then | > there | > | is only *one* solution to -| > | | X =3D 1 + T * X * X. +| > | | X = 1 + T * X * X. | > | | We are not yet dealing with "virtual species" which would allow | > | negative coefficients in the generating series. | > I realize my sentence could be ambiguous: I meant "least fixed point | > in the category of continuous partial orders (CPO)." -|=20 +| | Well, it seems you have to be even more precise. I still cannot | understand that. You mean X, 1, T are continuous partial orders? | And what does then + and =D7 stand for? First consider CPO, the category of complete partial partial orders, -where the morphisms are continuous functions. Here=20 +where the morphisms are continuous functions. Here - * 1 denotes "the" least object=20 + * 1 denotes "the" least object * + is the discriminated union -=20=20 + * =D7 is the Cartesian product Both "+" and "=D7" are (bi)functors of CPO. More generally any "polynomial" expression is a functor in CPO. For example, if T is a -fixed object of CPO,=20 +fixed object of CPO, X +-> 1 + T =D7 X, where X ranges over CPO @@ -44304,14 +27096,14 @@ is a functor, so is There is a general theorem that says that any polynomial (endo)functor F of CPO has a least fixed point. Notice that, in reality, this fixed -point is understood as "F(X) is isomorphic to X", but one usually writes=20 -F(X) =3D X. The set of finite lists of element of type T can be thought -of as the least fixed point of=20 +point is understood as "F(X) is isomorphic to X", but one usually writes +F(X) = X. The set of finite lists of element of type T can be thought +of as the least fixed point of X +-> 1 + T =D7 X Similarly, the set of finite binary trees can be thought of as the -least fixed point of=20 +least fixed point of X +-> 1 + T =D7 X =D7 X @@ -44320,9 +27112,9 @@ the reduce operator (over lists) to more general inductive types. | > Aha! Good point. Now, I just need you to point me to a good | > introductory point on species. -|=20 +| | The short one you find at -|=20 +| | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_species @@ -44331,7 +27123,7 @@ Thanks! It looks like we are actually using the same terminology | and the book I currently like best is given as the second reference on | the above page: -|=20 +| | Fran=E7ois Bergeron, Gilbert Labelle, Pierre Leroux, Th=E9orie des esp=E8= ces | et combinatoire des structures arborescentes, LaCIM, Montr=E9al @@ -44340,72 +27132,41 @@ ces Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWYs-0000NA-Ie - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:01:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWYq-0000MF-R3 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:01:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWYm-0000I8-7B - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:01:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkWYl-0000I3-R8 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:00:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkWYl-00049c-K1 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:00:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id F2C5C678B6; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:00:58 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1424967842; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:00:58 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:00:56 -0500 -Thread-Topic: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure -Thread-Index: AccJF3tRuCvc45orT8+T67QrJFb3CQAA+N8g From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:39 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->=20 +> > On 11/16/2006 01:20 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > | > The definition you gave is it: least fixed point of > > | > X |-> 1 + T =D7 X =D7 X -> > |=20 -> > | Hmmm, good question. In Aldor-combinat (AC) we deal with=20 +> > | +> > | Hmmm, good question. In Aldor-combinat (AC) we deal with > > | combinatorial species. They encode actual structures. The > > | corresponding generating series G(x) for binary trees given > > | by your X above has to fulfil the equation -> > |=20 -> > | G(x) =3D 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) -> > ...=20 +> > | +> > | G(x) = 1 + x * G(x) * G(x) (+) +> > ... > > | Assuming that I understand a bit of the theory of species, > > | then there is only *one* solution to -> > |=20 -> > | X =3D 1 + T * X * X. -> > |=20 +> > | +> > | X = 1 + T * X * X. +> > | > > | We are not yet dealing with "virtual species" which would > > | allow negative coefficients in the generating series. -> >=20 -> > I realize my sentence could be ambiguous: I meant "least=20 +> > +> > I realize my sentence could be ambiguous: I meant "least > > fixed point in the category of continuous partial orders > > (CPO)." ->=20 +> > Well, it seems you have to be even more precise. I still > cannot understand that. You mean X, 1, T are continuous > partial orders? And what does then + and =D7 stand for? ->=20 +> It is indeed a remarkable achievement of the level of abstraction that these formulas are (nearly) identical but refer to seemingly @@ -44449,7 +27210,7 @@ define abstractly the essential characteristics of the + and points is to also try to understand greatest fixed points at the same time. As I mentioned in a previous message the Stream type in Axiom (and some other languages) is related to the -same defining equation as the List functor X =3D 1 + T * X +same defining equation as the List functor X = 1 + T * X except that it is greatest fixed point solution rather than the least fixed point. It is seems easy (trivial?) to understand the action of the List type constructor but it is a little more @@ -44472,10 +27233,10 @@ a convenient finite representation as a circular list (denoted by a bar over the list of repeated elements). Now having thought about Stream as a type constructor solution -of the equation X =3D 1 + T * X, I would like to ask you what you +of the equation X = 1 + T * X, I would like to ask you what you think might be the equivalent greatest fixed point solution of - X =3D 1 + T * X * X + X = 1 + T * X * X Recall first that the least fixed point solution corresponds to the BinaryTree type constructor. @@ -44483,46 +27244,14 @@ the BinaryTree type constructor. I think I know the answer although I have not seen this written anyware else, so I want to see if you come to the same conclusion. :-) Ultimately it is the connection to Azcel and Jon Barwise's -notions of non-wellfounded sets that intrigues me most.=20 +notions of non-wellfounded sets that intrigues me most. Please forgive me for going on about this ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWu9-0002ue-8y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:23:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWu7-0002u7-Iv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:23:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWu6-0002tb-3u - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:23:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkWu5-0002tW-Tc - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:23:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkWu6-000084-6F - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:23:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A02140F82; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:22:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAG2Htno023284; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:17:58 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAG2Htqe023283; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:17:55 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Nov 2006 03:17:55 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Bill Page writes: @@ -44549,32 +27278,10 @@ traversal. Does Axiom have a domain for that? co-induction. --- gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWyg-0004qr-H8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:27:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWye-0004qN-R6 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:27:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkWyd-0004q3-C4 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:27:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkWyd-0004q0-8a - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:27:43 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkWyd-00016U-FP - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:27:43 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkWxQ-00019F-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:26:28 +0100 -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:26:28 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page wrote: @@ -44592,89 +27299,27 @@ Bill Page wrote: You forgot to remove the second copy of util.ht (so I did that). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkXAM-0000wr-HM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkXAK-0000tn-Gy - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkXAI-0000ql-Hz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkXAI-0000qa-DG - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:46 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkXAI-00038o-Qy - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0AFB9674FB; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:46 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 481F6673DB; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:45 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:39:46 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Thread-Index: AccJJsqK68m8kenSTXqasgxx7WiAKgAAVXYg From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: RE: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Waldek,=20 +Waldek, On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:26 PM you wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > You forgot to remove the second copy of util.ht (so I did that). ->=20 +> Thanks. It's been a long day but your night must be even longer... :-) -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkY2h-0002eh-42 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:35:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkY2e-0002cP-Uj - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:35:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkY2e-0002bT-6F - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:35:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkY2d-0002bE-VM - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:35:56 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkY2e-0004IJ-8P - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:35:56 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-60.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.60]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kAG3ZpKW002984 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:35:51 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 6EB321A9F6; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:35:58 -0600 (CST) -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 21:35:58 -0600 -Subject: [build-improvements] Pretty-print when boottocl - and boottoclc - - -Hi, +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list +Subject: [build-improvements] Pretty-print when boottocl and boottoclc This patchlet makes the functions boottocl and boottoclc translators pretty print their results -- instead of producing long lines of @@ -44729,35 +27374,12 @@ Built and tested on an i686-pc-linux-gnu. (DEFUN |shoePPtoFile| (|x| |stream|) - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkYSB-0002Qr-Ew - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:02:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkYSA-0002O3-3x - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:02:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkYS9-0002Mk-A0 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:02:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkYS9-0002Mb-3H - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:02:17 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkYS8-0000GF-R2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:02:17 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-60.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.60]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kAG42GKW003923 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:02:16 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 40B561A9F6; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:02:23 -0600 (CST) -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 22:02:23 -0600 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: [build-improvements] boottocl - With this patchlet we return whather shoeNotFound returns when the input file is invalid. This behaviour now matches that of other translation functions. @@ -44809,35 +27431,11 @@ translation functions. (PROGN - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkZzu-0002I6-SC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkZzs-0002HH-B6 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkZzr-0002Gm-FW - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkZzr-0002Gh-CW - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:11 -0500 -Received: from [68.230.240.35] (helo=eastrmmtao04.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkZzr-0003vE-LT - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:11 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao04.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061116054115.VTQI20226.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:15 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp - id nHgU1V00P21H6rq0000000; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:40:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:21 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -44903,40 +27501,11 @@ automate that as part of the SCMs. Anyway, my 2c. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkdB9-0003Iu-0Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:05:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkdB6-0003IW-2x - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:05:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkdB5-0003IB-E7 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:04:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkdB5-0003I8-7o - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:04:59 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkdB4-00012L-RM - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:04:59 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAG94lMq023817 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:04:51 +0100 +\start Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:05:53 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor - -Cc: axiom-developer Aha! Thanks. So whenever I write a spad function "elt" internally it is translated to "apply" and thus the interpreter never sees "elt". @@ -44976,44 +27545,12 @@ On 11/16/2006 02:07 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > opOf name = 'Zero => '_0 > opOf name = 'One => '_1 > error "bad op name" -> -> -- gaby - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkhFU-0001VC-DY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:25:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkhFS-0001Tw-8L - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:25:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkhFR-0001T7-AS - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:25:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkhFQ-0001SU-OE - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:25:45 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkhFM-0004lg-Gq - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:25:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0B84F3DA; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:25:31 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAGDKWe8031874; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:20:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAGDKWLl031873; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:20:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 16 Nov 2006 14:20:31 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Nov 2006 14:20:31 +0100 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -45056,45 +27593,11 @@ Explainingg why the new code is right implies one needs to understand what the old code is doing and why it is wrong. In that respect, it is just as important as the why of new code. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkhI4-0003OK-Bq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:28:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkhI1-0003Lk-Tz - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:28:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkhI1-0003Kb-2J - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:28:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkhI0-0003KL-SK - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:28:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkhHy-0005g0-VP - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:28:23 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74D74F41A; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:28:13 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAGDNFo0031881; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:23:17 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAGDNFis031880; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:23:15 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 16 Nov 2006 14:23:15 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor - <455BAF42.4060506@hemmecke.de> - - <455C29F1.1050109@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 16 Nov 2006 14:23:15 +0100 -Cc: axiom-developer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -45122,73 +27625,47 @@ interp/Makefile around it. Too late :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkjYx-0002iI-HZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:54:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkjYv-0002ep-UV - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:54:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkjYv-0002cj-BT - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:54:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkjYv-0002cX-1v; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:54:01 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GkjYv-0007uF-7i; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:54:01 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1924.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 309651C000EC; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:53:59 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= - <871wo3ydm1.fsf@laas.fr> <200611161122.17782.Themos Tsikas> - <8764dfsgj5.fsf@laas.fr> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:54:12 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer , axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ludovic Courtes Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: `)read' and large inputs Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 13:49 +0100, Ludovic Court=E8s a =E9crit : > Hi, ->=20 +> > Themos Tsikas Themos Tsikas writes: ->=20 +> > > The Library domain is for putting AXIOM values from different domains= - into one=20 + into one > > Keyed-Acess-File. It's a useful way for transmitting values from one = -AXIOM=20 +AXIOM > > session to another. Your first session should have created a director= -y called=20 +y called > > data.KAF containing a file called index.KAF and in this file would be= - a=20 + a > > Lisp-readable representation of the values you put in it. Do you get = -these=20 +these > > files at the end of the first session? > > The second session must be started at the same working directory as t= -he first.=20 +he first. > > Is there a directory called data.KAF when you start the second sessio= n? ->=20 +> > Yes, but it only contains a 23-octet long `index.KAF' containing the > following line: ->=20 +> > 20 NIL ->=20 +> > The issue is that the first session (where `axiom-large.input' is passe= d > on axiom's standard input) _does_ create the `data.KAF' directory and > the `index.KAF' above but it outputs the following error message: ->=20 +> > >> Error detected within library code: > File is not readable > "data.KAF" ->=20 +> > This message does not correspond to any actual read/open error from wha= t > I can see from the output of `strace'. @@ -45217,49 +27694,12 @@ PS: I think too (I can not test, my version of Axiom has the same bug) that some objects can not be saved and retrieved, for example continuedFraction(0). Themos, am I correct? - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkjzy-0006IS-2M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:21:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkjzv-0006G6-Mt - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:21:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkjzq-0006Cx-UZ - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:21:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gkjzq-0006Cf-Mg - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:21:50 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gkjzq-0006nE-Se - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:21:51 -0500 -Received: (qmail 29782 invoked by uid 7797); 16 Nov 2006 16:18:40 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.053158 secs); 16 Nov 2006 16:18:40 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 16 Nov 2006 16:18:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:22:01 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -45289,52 +27729,12 @@ The current build is working with the following configure flags: --enable-machine=powerpc-macosx '--enable-vssize=65536*2' --disable-tkconfig --disable-x --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkkHL-0007xy-Tf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:39:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkkHK-0007xN-4n - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:39:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkkHG-0007w8-9n - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:39:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkkHG-0007w5-4N - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:39:50 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkkHG-0002UQ-Gp - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:39:50 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567F11DF32 - for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:39:49 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932391CE48; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:39:47 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F1646DE0C; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:39:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:39:41 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - <455C9029.4020102@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: @@ -45379,42 +27779,12 @@ OK. OK, maybe we should just leave out --enable-maxpage. Camm? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkm2A-0002ko-I9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:32:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkm28-0002hw-Rx - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:32:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkm27-0002gJ-Tt - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:32:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkm27-0002g1-Jg; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:32:19 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gkm27-0004NB-Vs; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:32:20 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gkm1n-0003tT-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:31:59 -0500 +Date: 16 Nov 2006 13:31:59 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <455C9029.4020102@hpcf.upr.edu> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 16 Nov 2006 13:31:59 -0500 -Cc: Aurelien Chanudet , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Aurelien Chanudet Greetings! @@ -45545,46 +27915,10 @@ I'd like not to spend too much personal time on Windows and Mac, as my main concern here is the advanecment of free software. That said I will make it easy for anyone else so inclined to step in. -Take care, - -> -- Gaby -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GknfY-00012D-Iz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:17:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GknfW-0000zq-KH - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:17:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GknfU-0000z5-Vv - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:17:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GknfU-0000yx-Qb; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:17:04 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GknfV-0007DD-3X; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:17:05 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1912.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6494C1C000C4; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:16:32 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Themos Tsikas - <1163692452.3259.29.camel@ellipse> - <200611161618.10877.Themos Tsikas> +\start Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:16:12 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer , axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Themos Tsikas Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: `)read' and large inputs Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 16:18 +0000, Themos Tsikas a =E9crit : @@ -45595,21 +27929,21 @@ Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 16:18 +0000, Themos Tsikas a =E9crit : > > that some objects can not be saved and retrieved, for example > > continuedFraction(0). Themos, am I correct? > > ->=20 +> > trying to put that value in the library goes through without error, I g= -et a=20 +et a > line in index.KAF like this ->=20 +> > ((|ContinuedFraction| (|Integer|)) (0 "NullStream") . T) ->=20 +> > but retrieving the value, I get ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- ->=20 +> > >> System error: > Caught fatal error [memory may be damaged] ->=20 +> > protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) Thanks!! @@ -45619,36 +27953,10 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/323HandlingOfTheHistoryInAFile) I reported the Library file problem too on IssueTracker. - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkoAS-0000QY-Kj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:49:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkoAR-0000P6-Oz - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:49:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkoAP-0000Lj-Vv - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:49:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkoAP-0000LV-PE - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:49:01 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkoAQ-0004rT-79 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:49:02 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1924.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F3F1E1C000E2; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:48:36 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:47:30 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page Subject: Link and spam on MathAction Hello Bill, @@ -45657,34 +27965,10 @@ Just wanted to say that I'm very happy with MathAction. There are no spam actually and it's possible to add link on MathAction without any problems. Thanks!!! -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkox1-0003lg-VT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:39:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkox0-0003kZ-5p - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:39:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkowx-0003iW-AX - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:39:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gkowx-0003iP-5f - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:39:11 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gkowx-0007ai-F7 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:39:11 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 85F371C000AC - for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:38:55 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:38:21 +0100 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: map instead of map! in src/doc/book.pamphlet Hello, @@ -45705,67 +27989,38 @@ A small typo in the Axiom book: Beware I don't know what \spadfunFrom does. - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkpK9-0005Vd-Hm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:03:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkpK6-0005SC-O1 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:03:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkpK2-0005No-Mi - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:03:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkpK2-0005Nc-Jh - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:03:02 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkpK2-0004bK-AK - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:03:02 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAGM30Ls018995 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:03:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:04:30 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: map instead of map! in src/doc/book.pamphlet -Cc: Axiom-Developer On 11/16/2006 10:38 PM, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Hello, ->=20 +> > A small typo in the Axiom book: ->=20 +> > --- /home/greg/TDevel/cvs/axiom/src/doc/book.pamphlet > +++ src/doc/book.pamphlet > @@ -48550,7 +48548,7 @@ > \returnType{Type: TwoDimensionalArray Integer} -> =20 +> > To change the array destructively, use > -\spadfunFrom{map}{TwoDimensionalArray} instead of > +\spadfunFrom{map!}{TwoDimensionalArray} instead of > \spadfunFrom{map}{TwoDimensionalArray}. If you need to make a copy of= > any array, use \spadfunFrom{copy}{TwoDimensionalArray}. ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Beware I don't know what \spadfunFrom does. I don't know either, but src/hyper/pages/util.ht says the stuff below... Obviously, there are a lot of commands that look pretty much like LaTeX. = -But I guess, hypertex code is not really processed by THE TeX so what=20 -language is that actually? And any chance that there is a bit more=20 +But I guess, hypertex code is not really processed by THE TeX so what +language is that actually? And any chance that there is a bit more documentation than that given in util.ht? Ralf @@ -45779,16 +28034,16 @@ Ralf % % Example: \spadfunFromX{reverse}{List} prints as reverse! % -% In the "From" versions, the first arg is function name, second is=20 +% In the "From" versions, the first arg is function name, second is constructor % where exported. % % Use the "op" flavors of "-", "+", "*" etc, otherwise the "fun" flavors -\newcommand{\userfun} [1]{{\bf #1}} % example, non-library=20 +\newcommand{\userfun} [1]{{\bf #1}} % example, non-library function names -\newcommand{\fakeAxiomFun}[1]{{\bf #1}} % not really a library=20 +\newcommand{\fakeAxiomFun}[1]{{\bf #1}} % not really a library function \newcommand{\pspadfun} [1]{\fakeAxiomFun{#1}} @@ -45797,35 +28052,10 @@ function \newcommand{\axiomFunX}[1]{\axiomFun{#1!}} \newcommand{\spadfunX}[1]{\axiomFun{#1!}} - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkpSR-0000lP-5O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:11:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkpSP-0000jH-QJ - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:11:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkpSN-0000g2-Vm - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:11:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkpSN-0000fP-5T - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:11:39 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkpSN-0006I9-9E - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:11:39 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAGMBbLs019296 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:11:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:13:08 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: ht.awk Does somebody know where the file ht.awk is? @@ -45839,64 +28069,40 @@ under source code control? And, Waldek, didn't you say that also the .pht files are generated? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkq1i-0004vW-3r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:48:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkq1g-0004vR-UE - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:48:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkq1g-0004vF-7f - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:48:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gkq1g-0004vC-3y - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:48:08 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gkq1g-0004Qh-G0 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:48:08 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 14BAA1C000BC; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:47:49 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: map instead of map! in src/doc/book.pamphlet -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:47:16 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: map instead of map! in src/doc/book.pamphlet Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 23:04 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > On 11/16/2006 10:38 PM, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > Hello, -> >=20 +> > > > A small typo in the Axiom book: -> >=20 +> > > > --- /home/greg/TDevel/cvs/axiom/src/doc/book.pamphlet > > +++ src/doc/book.pamphlet > > @@ -48550,7 +48548,7 @@ > > \returnType{Type: TwoDimensionalArray Integer} -> > =20 +> > > > To change the array destructively, use > > -\spadfunFrom{map}{TwoDimensionalArray} instead of > > +\spadfunFrom{map!}{TwoDimensionalArray} instead of > > \spadfunFrom{map}{TwoDimensionalArray}. If you need to make a copy = of > > any array, use \spadfunFrom{copy}{TwoDimensionalArray}. -> >=20 -> >=20 +> > +> > > > Beware I don't know what \spadfunFrom does. ->=20 +> > I don't know either, but src/hyper/pages/util.ht says the stuff below..= . ->=20 +> > Obviously, there are a lot of commands that look pretty much like LaTeX= -.=20 -> But I guess, hypertex code is not really processed by THE TeX so what=20 -> language is that actually? And any chance that there is a bit more=20 +. +> But I guess, hypertex code is not really processed by THE TeX so what +> language is that actually? And any chance that there is a bit more > documentation than that given in util.ht? It seems that you didn't see that book.pamphlet is a LaTeX book (THE @@ -45904,46 +28110,21 @@ Axiom book :-) (\spadfunFrom is a LaTeX macro here). I use \spadfunFrom for Hyperdoc and I like it though it processes incorrectly function ending with a number (no link are generated). -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkqI5-0002o2-KW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:05:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkqI3-0002md-Jc - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:05:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkqI1-0002lA-Sk - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:05:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkqI1-0002ku-Ls - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:05:01 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkqI1-0007Oh-PD - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:05:01 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 81D9A1C000B6; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:04:39 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: ht.awk -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:04:07 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: ht.awk Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 23:13 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > Does somebody know where the file ht.awk is? ->=20 +> > All the .ht files say... ->=20 +> > % !! DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE BY HAND !! Created by ht.awk. ->=20 +> > So if there is/were a script that generates the .ht files, why keep the= -m=20 +m > under source code control? I asked the same question some days ago (forget the typos) @@ -45953,60 +28134,13 @@ No other response so I'm assuming it is no longer available. Greg > And, Waldek, didn't you say that also the .pht files are generated? ->=20 -> Ralf ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkrjd-0004wm-CR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:37:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkrjc-0004wM-4u - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:37:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkrjb-0004vr-Fx - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:37:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gkrjb-0004vf-A5 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:37:35 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gkrjb-0008BA-Gu - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:37:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5411DC3D - for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:37:34 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77A81DDD7; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:37:26 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A7846DE28; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:37:26 -0600 (CST) + +\start Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:37:20 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - <455C9029.4020102@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6w35jkw.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: Aurelien Chanudet , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Aurelien Chanudet On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -46033,51 +28167,24 @@ Hello Camm, Thanks for the extensive explanation -- I liked it. I'll implement you suggestion. --- Gaby - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GksoS-0006JV-IC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:46:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GksoR-0006Gs-Cx - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:46:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GksoQ-0006EP-K6 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:46:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GksoQ-0006E7-ED - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:46:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GksoQ-0004ES-U4 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:46:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAH1kCf4005082; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:46:28 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem, - "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: ht.awk Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:45:50 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem, Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: ht.awk On November 16, 2006 6:04 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: ->=20 +> > Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 23:13 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > > Does somebody know where the file ht.awk is? -> >=20 +> > > > All the .ht files say... -> >=20 +> > > > % !! DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE BY HAND !! Created by ht.awk. -> >=20 -> > So if there is/were a script that generates the .ht files,=20 +> > +> > So if there is/were a script that generates the .ht files, > > why keep them under source code control? ->=20 +> > I asked the same question some days ago (forget the typos) > = http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00436.html @@ -46109,44 +28216,18 @@ Tim, is there any legal reason why you did not include the htex directory in the open source version of Axiom? > And, Waldek, didn't you say that also the .pht files are generated? ->=20 +> Perhaps there is something here also to produce .pht files but I did not find it right away. Also included in the htex directory is the original tex linebreak program that is used on MathAction and in the TeXmacs tm_axiom interface on Windows. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GktWv-0003lZ-6Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:32:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GktWt-0003jT-Qy - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:32:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GktWs-0003h5-Im - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:32:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GktWs-0003gs-65 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:32:34 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GktWs-0004uE-Ha - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:32:34 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GktVj-00070J-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 03:31:23 +0100 -Subject: Re: ht.awk -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 03:31:23 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev - +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: ht.awk > Does somebody know where the file ht.awk is? > @@ -46196,68 +28277,42 @@ This 'almost' works: some pages are nicely generated, but on other it stops and one has manually quit Axiom. It seems that Hypertex has problem detecting that AXIOMsys finished writing output file. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkubu-0002qr-UT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:41:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkubt-0002oV-KV - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:41:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkubq-0002iA-To - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:41:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gkubq-0002i4-Pi - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:41:46 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gkubr-0001FY-2o - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:41:47 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1918.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 79F381C00098; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:41:12 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: ht.awk -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page +\start Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:40:44 +0100 -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: ht.awk Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 20:45 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > On November 16, 2006 6:04 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 23:13 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > > > Does somebody know where the file ht.awk is? -> > >=20 +> > > > > > All the .ht files say... -> > >=20 +> > > > > > % !! DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE BY HAND !! Created by ht.awk. -> > >=20 -> > > So if there is/were a script that generates the .ht files,=20 +> > > +> > > So if there is/were a script that generates the .ht files, > > > why keep them under source code control? -> >=20 +> > > > I asked the same question some days ago (forget the typos) > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00436.ht= ml > > No other response so I'm assuming it is no longer available. ->=20 +> > ??? Yes, this why I say "forget the typos". I think Waldek understood. ->=20 +> > You asked about a file called 'ph.awk'. I do not know this file, but ..= . ->=20 +> > On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:40:41 -0500 I replied to you: ->=20 +> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00456.html ->=20 +> > > There are awk scripts like 'ht.awk' that sound similar to this > > in the htex directory that is part of the original Axiom source > > distribution (not currently in the Open Source version but could @@ -46280,42 +28335,17 @@ pointed out. Sorry again :-( -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkusV-0003xE-3M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:58:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkusU-0003x9-En - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:58:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkusT-0003wu-2k - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:58:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkusT-0003wr-0n - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:58:57 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkusS-0007Nn-Qu - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:58:57 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-26-202.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.132.202]) - by mwinf1918.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E8FFE1C00089; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:58:26 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: ht.awk -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:57:34 +0100 -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: ht.awk Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 20:45 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : [...] ->=20 +> > > There are awk scripts like 'ht.awk' that sound similar to this > > in the htex directory that is part of the original Axiom source > > distribution (not currently in the Open Source version but could @@ -46325,40 +28355,11 @@ Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 20:45 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : This mail was not destined to me and I thought it was a script known to Waldek (not me, I even did not know my error). -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkv2U-0004hd-Q7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkv2T-0004fY-1C - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gkv2S-0004eT-Bi - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gkv2S-0004eE-7a - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:16 -0500 -Received: from [70.168.83.79] (helo=centrmmtao05.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gkv2S-0000MA-C8 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:16 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by centrmmtao05.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061117040919.FCNH7904.centrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>; - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:19 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp - id ng8L1V00E21H6rq0000000; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:08:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:26 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems - -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -46408,52 +28409,26 @@ Unfortunately I am not an expert in this field. Hmm. I thought I knew what I was thinking when I said that, but on reflection I'm not sure. Strike it. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkvTU-0006rb-99 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:37:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkvTS-0006nN-3r - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:37:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkvTR-0006mE-9o - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:37:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkvTR-0006ly-64 - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:37:09 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkvTR-00048n-FL - for list; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:37:09 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAH4aVsA020061; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:36:53 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: RE: ht.awk +\start Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:36:11 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: ht.awk On November 16, 2006 9:31 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > Ralf asked: ->=20 +> > > Does somebody know where the file ht.awk is? -> >=20 +> > > > All the .ht files say... -> >=20 +> > > > % !! DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE BY HAND !! Created by ht.awk. -> >=20 -> > So if there is/were a script that generates the .ht files,=20 -> why keep them=20 +> > +> > So if there is/were a script that generates the .ht files, +> why keep them > > under source code control? ->=20 +> You can find the ht.awk script in the src/htex directory in this tarball @@ -46474,7 +28449,7 @@ See also the src/doc/htex files. It looks to me like the original Axiom developers had already given this some thought. Perhaps the src/doc/htex files represent this sort of process? -=20 + > There is a second problem: .ht files in general contain more > precise markup then 'book.pamphlet', but some differences may be > due to editing done by Tim. @@ -46491,15 +28466,15 @@ commerical version of Axiom that used the Texplorer browser to display these formula, hyperdoc documentation, and even live graphics. ->=20 -> >=20 +> +> > > > And, Waldek, didn't you say that also the .pht files are > > generated? -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > I put the following in 'src/hyper/Makefile.pamphlet': ->=20 -> In the long term, the [[.pht]] and viewports should be=20 +> +> In the long term, the [[.pht]] and viewports should be > generated at either > build time or installation time using commands like: > \begin{verbatim} @@ -46509,7 +28484,7 @@ graphics. > rm -f ht.db > ${HTADD} *.ht *.pht > \end{verbatim} ->=20 +> Ah, so it is 'htadd' that is supposed to create .pht files from the .ht files. I see. Is there any documentation of this process? @@ -46518,11 +28493,11 @@ Ah, so it is 'htadd' that is supposed to create .pht files from the > .input file for Axiom. Once .input is ready Hypertex tells > AXIOMsys to execute it, writing output to a file. Then Hypertex > should collect the output into .pht page. ->=20 +> > This 'almost' works: some pages are nicely generated, but on other > it stops and one has manually quit Axiom. It seems that Hypertex -> has problem detecting that AXIOMsys finished writing output file. =20 ->=20 +> has problem detecting that AXIOMsys finished writing output file. +> Wow! How did you learn/know that this functionality even existed? :-) By reading the code? I am very pleased and amazed. @@ -46601,12 +28576,12 @@ writing: cap(complete 3*complete 2*complete 1,elementary 2**2*elementary 1**2) writing: eval(cup(complete 3*complete 2*complete 1, cup(complete 2**2*complete 1**2,complete 2**3))) -writing: square:=3Ddihedral 4 +writing: square:=dihedral 4 writing: cap(complete 2**2,square) writing: cap(complete 3*complete 2**2,dihedral 7) writing: cap(graphs 5,complete 7*complete 3) -writing: s(x) =3D=3D powerSum(x) -writing: cube:=3D(1/24)*(s 1**8+9*s 2**4 + 8*s 3**2*s 1**2+6*s = +writing: s(x) == powerSum(x) +writing: cube:=(1/24)*(s 1**8+9*s 2**4 + 8*s 3**2*s 1**2+6*s = 4**2) Compiling function s with type PositiveInteger -> SymmetricPolynomial Fraction Integer @@ -46622,15 +28597,15 @@ writing: cap(complete 2**3*complete 1**2,wreath(complete = writing: cap(complete 2**3*complete 1**2,wreath(complete = 4,complete 2)) -writing: x: ULS(FRAC INT,'x,0) :=3D 'x +writing: x: ULS(FRAC INT,'x,0) := 'x writing: ZeroOrOne: INT -> ULS(FRAC INT, 'x, 0) writing: Integers: INT -> ULS(FRAC INT, 'x, 0) -writing: ZeroOrOne n =3D=3D 1+x**n +writing: ZeroOrOne n == 1+x**n writing: ZeroOrOne 5 Compiling function ZeroOrOne with type Integer -> UnivariateLaurentSeries(Fraction Integer,x,0) -writing: Integers n =3D=3D 1/(1-x**n) +writing: Integers n == 1/(1-x**n) writing: Integers 5 Compiling function Integers with type Integer -> UnivariateLaurentSeries(Fraction @@ -46646,7 +28621,7 @@ writing: eval(ZeroOrOne ,graphs 15) writing: cap(dihedral 30,complete 7*complete 8*complete = 5*complete 10) -writing: sf3221:=3D SFunction [3,2,2,1] +writing: sf3221:= SFunction [3,2,2,1] writing: cap(sf3221,complete 2**4) writing: cap(sf3221, powerSum 1**8) writing: eval(Integers, sf3221) @@ -46686,23 +28661,23 @@ cap(elementary 3*elementary 2*elementary 1,complete 2**2*complete 1**2) cap(complete 3*complete 2*complete 1,elementary 2**2*elementary 1**2) eval(cup(complete 3*complete 2*complete 1, cup(complete 2**2*complete 1**2,complete 2**3))) -square:=3Ddihedral 4 +square:=dihedral 4 cap(complete 2**2,square) cap(complete 3*complete 2**2,dihedral 7) cap(graphs 5,complete 7*complete 3) -s(x) =3D=3D powerSum(x) -cube:=3D(1/24)*(s 1**8+9*s 2**4 + 8*s 3**2*s 1**2+6*s 4**2) +s(x) == powerSum(x) +cube:=(1/24)*(s 1**8+9*s 2**4 + 8*s 3**2*s 1**2+6*s 4**2) cap(complete 4**2,cube) cap(complete 2**3*complete 1**2,wreath(elementary 4,elementary 2)) cap(complete 2**3*complete 1**2,wreath(elementary 4,complete 2)) cap(complete 2**3*complete 1**2,wreath(complete 4,elementary 2)) cap(complete 2**3*complete 1**2,wreath(complete 4,complete 2)) -x: ULS(FRAC INT,'x,0) :=3D 'x +x: ULS(FRAC INT,'x,0) := 'x ZeroOrOne: INT -> ULS(FRAC INT, 'x, 0) Integers: INT -> ULS(FRAC INT, 'x, 0) -ZeroOrOne n =3D=3D 1+x**n +ZeroOrOne n == 1+x**n ZeroOrOne 5 -Integers n =3D=3D 1/(1-x**n) +Integers n == 1/(1-x**n) Integers 5 eval(ZeroOrOne, graphs 5) eval(ZeroOrOne,dihedral 8) @@ -46713,7 +28688,7 @@ eval(Integers,cube) eval(Integers,graphs 5) eval(ZeroOrOne ,graphs 15) cap(dihedral 30,complete 7*complete 8*complete 5*complete 10) -sf3221:=3D SFunction [3,2,2,1] +sf3221:= SFunction [3,2,2,1] cap(sf3221,complete 2**4) cap(sf3221, powerSum 1**8) eval(Integers, sf3221) @@ -46729,46 +28704,10 @@ And a new CYCLES.pht file seems to have been generated. [page@axiom-developer pages]$ -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkyNr-0002fM-O0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:43:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkyNp-0002ap-FH - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:43:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkyNo-0002YO-DK - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:43:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkyNo-0002Y6-8U - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:43:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkyNo-0000nX-3u - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:43:32 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkyNd-0005B7-TN; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:43:21 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkyNd-000305-SS; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:43:21 +0100 -To: Cliff Yapp - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 17 Nov 2006 08:43:19 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: SPAD and Aldor again Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -46797,43 +28736,11 @@ I guess it's Peter. Laurentiu says he doesn't know about the axiom side, but I know he knows foam. Tim, do you know about that stuff? Gaby, Waldek, did you dig into this connection yet? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl0oq-000813-Up - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:19:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl0op-00080A-J2 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:19:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl0on-0007yi-HJ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:19:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl0on-0007y9-5W - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:19:33 -0500 -Received: from [81.103.221.49] (helo=mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl0om-0001Iy-Rx - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:19:33 -0500 -Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) - by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061117101950.SEGE1865.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:19:50 +0000 -Received: from cpc2-hers1-0-0-cust94.hers.cable.ntl.com ([86.3.80.95]) - by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061117101928.OQIC15733.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc2-hers1-0-0-cust94.hers.cable.ntl.com>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:19:28 +0000 -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again +Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:19:40 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Martin Rubey - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:19:40 +0000 -Cc: list +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 08:43 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -46875,42 +28782,11 @@ the other side interpret asy files as defining axiom types (daase.lisp). Unfortunately this doesn't add any aldor semantics into axiom, or the other way round. -Peter - - -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl0uZ-0005IL-Id - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:25:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl0uW-0005Ec-J6 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:25:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl0uU-0005Bj-SE - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:25:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl0uU-0005BQ-LS - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:25:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl0uU-0002UX-EW - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:25:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gl0t9-00022o-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:03 +0100 -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -To: Peter Broadbery Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:03 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Peter Broadbery +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again Peter Broadbery wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 08:43 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -46926,42 +28802,11 @@ Peter Broadbery wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^ You mean 'as.boot'? - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl13m-0003D2-3y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:35:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl13i-0003B5-8p - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:34:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl13e-00037z-Vp - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:34:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl13e-00037p-NA - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:34:54 -0500 -Received: from [81.103.221.47] (helo=mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl13e-0003zw-Cm - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:34:54 -0500 -Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) - by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061117103507.GSRK15018.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:35:07 +0000 -Received: from cpc2-hers1-0-0-cust94.hers.cable.ntl.com ([86.3.80.95]) - by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061117103527.LBKI11710.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc2-hers1-0-0-cust94.hers.cable.ntl.com>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:35:27 +0000 -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again +\start +Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:35:04 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Waldek Hebisch -Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:35:04 +0000 -Cc: list +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 11:24 +0100, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Peter Broadbery wrote: @@ -46983,48 +28828,11 @@ On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 11:24 +0100, Waldek Hebisch wrote: That one as well (my mistake). daase does the reading and setting up imports, as.boot does the mapping to axiom types. -Peter - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl14s-0003lq-Jf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:36:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl14p-0003kY-TW - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:36:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl14n-0003iJ-5d - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:36:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl14n-0003iB-0Y - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:36:05 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl14m-0004F5-3m - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 05:36:04 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl14k-00035u-Jj; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:36:02 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl14k-0005qK-GO; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:36:02 +0100 +\start +Date: 17 Nov 2006 11:36:01 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Peter Broadbery Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> - <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <1163758780.4352.14.camel@speedy.home> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 11:36:01 +0100 -Cc: list Peter Broadbery writes: @@ -47049,38 +28857,11 @@ need access to the sources? So, is there any way to make this happen? Money? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl22M-0000aJ-Jb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:37:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl22I-0000WA-Ms - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:37:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl22D-0000Rd-UX - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:37:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl22D-0000RO-Fm - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:37:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl22C-0005P6-CA - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:37:28 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl1uP-0000L9-MJ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:29:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gl1se-0006Xe-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:27:36 +0100 -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -To: Martin Rubey Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:27:36 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again Martin Rubey wrote: > Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -47153,39 +28934,11 @@ My impression is that Aldor uses single indirection and lazyness, which should work nicely for loading at startup but may have problem if you load new extensions in the middle of the run. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl2Gx-0007Fa-QF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:52:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl2Gw-0007DI-KU - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:52:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl2Gv-0007BR-Ne - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:52:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl2Gv-0007B9-Gq - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:52:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl2Gv-0003LH-G9 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:52:41 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl2Gu-0002bf-1W - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:52:40 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gl2Ff-0007rx-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:51:23 +0100 -Subject: Re: ht.awk -To: Bill Page +\start Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:51:23 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: ht.awk Bill Page wrote: > On November 16, 2006 9:31 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -47230,44 +28983,20 @@ for embedded paths (I wanted to fix a different problem). It is possible that I have read HTXAdvPage5.ht earlier, but since a lot of browser functionality did not work I would probably ignore it (and forget later). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3TH-00033M-GW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:09:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3TD-0002zq-OB - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:09:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3T7-0002ta-6E - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:09:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3T6-0002tE-Vu; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:09:21 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gl3T6-0008Qm-FF; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:09:20 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gl3Rt-0005DB-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:08:05 +0100 -Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Re: `)read' and large inputs -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +\start Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:08:05 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Themos Tsikas, Axiom-Developer , - axiom-mail@nongnu.org +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: re: [Axiom-mail] Re: `)read' and large inputs +Cc: Themos Tsikas Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > I encountered the same issue with the history of Axiom in a file which > is buggy (see > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/323HandlingOfTheHistoryInAFile) ->=20 +> > I reported the Library file problem too on IssueTracker. ->=20 +> I applied the patch below to wh-sandbox -- so library and history handling should now work in wh-sandbox. The last part (adding slash) @@ -47286,39 +29015,39 @@ ra/files.spad.pamphlet +++ wh-sandbox/src/algebra/files.spad.pamphlet 2006-11-17 01:54:38.00000000= 0 +0100 @@ -389,10 +389,8 @@ - =20 - defstream(fn: Name, mode: IOMode): FileState =3D=3D - mode =3D "input" =3D> -- not readable? fn =3D> error ["File is not readable", fn] + + defstream(fn: Name, mode: IOMode): FileState == + mode = "input" => +- not readable? fn => error ["File is not readable", fn] RDEFINSTREAM(fn::String)$Lisp - mode =3D "output" =3D> -- not writable? fn =3D> error ["File is not writable", fn] + mode = "output" => +- not writable? fn => error ["File is not writable", fn] RDEFOUTSTREAM(fn::String)$Lisp error ["IO mode must be input or output", mode] - =20 + @@ -409,9 +407,7 @@ - mode =3D "either" =3D> - exists? fname =3D> + mode = "either" => + exists? fname => open(fname, "input") -- writable? fname =3D> +- writable? fname => - reopen_!(open(fname, "output"), "input") - error "File does not exist and cannot be created" + reopen_!(open(fname, "output"), "input") [fname, defstream(fname, mode), mode] - reopen_!(f, mode) =3D=3D + reopen_!(f, mode) == close_! f @@ -506,6 +502,10 @@ - ++ \spad{lib.k :=3D v} saves the value \spad{v} in the library + ++ \spad{lib.k := v} saves the value \spad{v} in the library ++ \spad{lib}. It can later be extracted using the key \spad= {k}. -=20 + + close_!: % -> % + ++ close!(f) returns the library f closed to input and output. + + - =3D=3D KeyedAccessFile(Any) add - Rep :=3D KeyedAccessFile(Any) - library f =3D=3D open f + == KeyedAccessFile(Any) add + Rep := KeyedAccessFile(Any) + library f == open f diff -ru wh-sandbox.bb/src/interp/fname.lisp.pamphlet wh-sandbox/src/interp= /fname.lisp.pamphlet --- wh-sandbox.bb/src/interp/fname.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-15 23:01:44.000000= @@ -47327,11 +29056,11 @@ diff -ru wh-sandbox.bb/src/interp/fname.lisp.pamphlet wh-sandbox/src/interp= +0100 @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ (if s s "") )) - =20 + (defun |fnameExists?| (f) - (if (probe-file f) 't nil)) + (if (vmlisp::axiom-probe-file (namestring f)) 't nil)) -=20 + (defun |fnameReadable?| (f) #+:CCL (file-readablep f) @@ -112,7 +112,8 @@ @@ -47353,12 +29082,12 @@ nlib.lisp.pamphlet @@ -435,9 +435,6 @@ (defun make-full-namestring (filearg &optional (filetype nil)) (namestring (merge-pathnames (make-filename filearg filetype)))) -=20 + -(defun probe-name (file) - (if (probe-file file) (namestring file) nil)) - (defun get-directory-list (ft &aux (cd (namestring $current-directory))) - (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=3D) + (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=) (if (eq BOOT::|$UserLevel| 'BOOT::|development|) @@ -451,8 +448,10 @@ (defun axiom-probe-file (file) @@ -47370,54 +29099,23 @@ nlib.lisp.pamphlet + +(defun probe-name (file) + (if (axiom-probe-file file) (namestring file) nil)) -=20 + (defun make-input-filename (filearg &optional (filetype nil)) (let* @@ -465,7 +464,7 @@ (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) - (when=20 - (axiom-probe-file=20 + (when + (axiom-probe-file - (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) + (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir "/" filename))) (return newfn))) (probe-name filename)))) -=20 - - ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3lA-00056v-R4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:28:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3l9-00056E-UV - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3l9-00055N-7r - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl3l9-00055D-5P - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [70.168.83.80] (helo=centrmmtao04.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl3l8-00058i-V0 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:59 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by centrmmtao04.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061117132802.JFHV1440.centrmmtao04.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:28:02 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp - id npT21V00M21H6rq0000000; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:02 -0500 + +\start Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:28:09 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -47480,46 +29178,11 @@ those libraries directly that SPAD doesn't supply. I think that will be an important discussion to be had as a project - just how compatible with Aldor we want to stay. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3r3-0002TA-Iv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:34:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3r1-0002RG-40 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:34:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3qz-0002Pr-G6 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:34:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl3qz-0002Ph-8Y - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:34:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl3qz-0006cj-7e - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:34:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3320C4F3D0; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:33:51 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHDSn5e023762; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:28:52 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHDSn4S023761; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:28:49 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 17 Nov 2006 14:28:49 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 14:28:49 +0100 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -47553,45 +29216,10 @@ I don't know for you, but I'm not waiting for Aldor. I've decided a long time ago to go with SPAD and improve it. I think I've sid that many times. But, yes, the project has to decide. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3sq-0004vy-Jd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:35:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3so-0004t3-Gz - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:35:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl3sm-0004q7-C1 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:35:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl3sm-0004pw-7h - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:35:52 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl3sm-0006w2-4x - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:35:52 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3844F43A; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:35:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHDUfk9023785; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:30:43 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHDUfuB023784; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:30:41 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Martin Rubey - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> - <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 17 Nov 2006 14:30:41 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: SPAD and Aldor again Martin Rubey writes: @@ -47606,42 +29234,11 @@ I've looked into FOAM, yes. But, from my perspective improved SPAD should not be a clone of Aldor. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl416-0005Di-Gk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:44:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl414-0005Bh-Jf - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:44:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl411-00059D-Vb - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:44:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl411-000592-Nh - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:44:23 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl411-00083S-Nk - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:44:23 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D993641284; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:44:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHDdCse023970; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:39:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHDdCaj023969; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:39:12 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 17 Nov 2006 14:39:12 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 14:39:12 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -47690,41 +29287,11 @@ have identified a large subset where it is decidable. We must also look at how to convince the compiler to do delta conversion without getting in a blackhole. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl4sy-0007E8-6o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:40:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl4sv-0007Cc-3g - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:40:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl4sm-00072o-B9 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:40:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl4sm-00072W-1a - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:39:56 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl4sl-00060q-Of - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:39:56 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl4sj-0005Hn-SS; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:39:53 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl4sj-0006wP-QJ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:39:53 +0100 +Date: 17 Nov 2006 15:39:51 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: KUDOS -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 15:39:51 +0100 -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Dear Waldek, @@ -47741,36 +29308,11 @@ I'd just like to send you a BIG for your wonderful work on HyperDoc. Being able to use users, uses, dependents is just wonderful! - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl4to-0008Fl-Fc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:41:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl4tn-0008DU-3k - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:40:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl4tl-0008B1-7w - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:40:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl4tl-0008Au-30 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:40:57 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl4tl-00068l-2l - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:40:57 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gl4sV-0002Hq-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:39:39 +0100 -Subject: re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:39:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Explainingg why the new code is right implies one needs to understand @@ -47790,45 +29332,11 @@ So, I belive that if we understand what Spad compiler is doing with algebra and we implement equivalent functionality in new compiler we can reasonably scrap the old one. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl59G-0008HF-VL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:56:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl59E-0008Es-T3 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:56:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl59C-0008BW-3W - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:56:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl59B-0008BO-V5 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:56:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl59B-0001Ir-Vg - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:56:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B844F41A; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:56:43 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHEpgs2025221; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:51:45 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHEpgqi025220; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:51:42 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 17 Nov 2006 15:51:42 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 15:51:42 +0100 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -47880,42 +29388,11 @@ Probably. I would like to see a discussion about what is necessary to support computational mathematics in Axiom, rather than how closely SPAD should ressemble another language. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5Lw-0000we-CV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:10:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5Lt-0000sI-2n - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:10:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5Lr-0000q2-Ed - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:10:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl5Lr-0000pY-6r - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:09:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl5Lq-0004Hr-Ux - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:09:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5108A40FF4; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:09:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHF4m3N025438; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:04:50 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHF4mOp025437; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:04:48 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 17 Nov 2006 16:04:48 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 16:04:48 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -47965,44 +29442,11 @@ be said to *have been* important -- even it *is not* as important anymore. Software live, breath until they die. And when they die we can't rewrite history. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5qn-0007r4-VJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:41:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5qm-0007pL-HQ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:41:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5qd-0007mA-Mf - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:41:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl5qd-0007lv-F7 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:41:47 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl5qc-0001PO-3u - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:41:46 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl5qE-0005Ra-Dh; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:41:22 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl5qE-0000Vi-CV; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:41:22 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, - Christian Aistleitner, Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 17 Nov 2006 16:41:21 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Christian Aistleitner, Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again Dear Christian, Gaby, Waldek, @@ -48068,40 +29512,11 @@ and, in SPAD, types. (Aren't types just a special kind of functions?) Should we copy this discussion to Stephen Watt? :-) -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5wt-0004NI-CU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:48:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5wr-0004MV-ST - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:48:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl5wf-0004Dq-RE - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:48:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl5wf-0004Dg-N0 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:48:01 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl5wV-000253-Ll - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:47:52 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAHFl1Ls008103 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:47:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:48:45 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - -Cc: list > I've looked into FOAM, yes. > @@ -48110,46 +29525,11 @@ Cc: list Do you also consider to forget about FOAM? I guess, it is not below SPAD anyway. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6EA-0005Pu-9W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:06:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6E8-0005PD-O2 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:06:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6E6-0005Mt-IY - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:06:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6E6-0005Md-C8 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:06:02 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6E3-0004mr-HR - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:06:01 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAHG5JFQ023603 - for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:05:23 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32520 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2006 16:05:21 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 17 Nov 2006 16:05:21 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAHFtKv07890; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:55:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:55:20 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:13:08 +0100) Subject: Re: ht.awk - J_CHICKENPOX_23, J_CHICKENPOX_44, J_CHICKENPOX_53, - J_CHICKENPOX_54, J_CHICKENPOX_62, J_CHICKENPOX_63, - J_CHICKENPOX_64 -Cc: list # Copyright The Numerical Algorithms Group Limited 1992-94. # @@ -48711,37 +30091,11 @@ function extractArg(line,num, p,arg) { return arg } - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6GI-00084N-3T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6GG-00082b-9w - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6GC-0007xd-Bl - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6GC-0007xL-4S - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:12 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6GA-00059h-IT - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:11 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAHG7SLs008813 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:07:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:09:07 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - -Cc: list > | I think that will be an important discussion to be had as a project - > | just how compatible with Aldor we want to stay. @@ -48781,43 +30135,11 @@ language. Yes that is a big dream, but we still have 27 years. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Gp-0000KX-IN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Gn-0000HX-Ka - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Gl-0000Ec-SW - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6Gl-0000ED-My - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:47 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6GP-0005IA-Rt - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:08:32 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAHG7wAB025838 - for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:07:58 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5502 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2006 16:07:51 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Ralf Hemmecke; 17 Nov 2006 16:07:51 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAHFvoR07894; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:57:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:57:50 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem - on Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:04:07 +0100) Subject: Re: ht.awk -Cc: list > I asked the same question some days ago (forget the typos) > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00436.html @@ -48829,43 +30151,11 @@ There are still some files from the NAG release that are not part of the axiom distribution. If anyone is interested I can put the NAG released file tree under source code control. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Jr-0004oE-A6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:11:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Jo-0004k6-LU - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:11:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Jm-0004hY-VM - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:11:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6Jm-0004hE-Pi - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:11:54 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6Jm-0006Dx-I8 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:11:54 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAHGBScp016902 - for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:11:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 19938 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2006 16:11:31 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gregory Vanuxem; 17 Nov 2006 16:11:31 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAHG1Tt07916; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:01:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:01:29 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: ht.awk -Cc: list > Tim, is there any legal reason why you did not include the htex > directory in the open source version of Axiom? @@ -48874,45 +30164,12 @@ Nope. The axiom conversion to open source took a couple years and I never got around to handling the hypertex portions. Along with several other tasks it is still on the todo list. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Kr-0006CG-H5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:13:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Kp-0006AN-Rz - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:12:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Km-00065o-1g - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:12:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6Kl-00065F-GC - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:12:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6Kl-0006R1-7I - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:12:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB194F3DE; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:12:43 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHG7ha1027190; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:07:45 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHG7hc2027189; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:07:43 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:07:43 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <9qodr6w066.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:07:43 +0100 -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner Martin Rubey writes: @@ -48974,48 +30231,11 @@ of )abbrev), dependent types, algebraic types. depending on the perspective, yes. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6ML-0000GV-Rk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:14:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6MJ-0000Cz-T4 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:14:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6MH-000087-BS - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:14:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6MG-00007j-UR - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:14:29 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6MG-0006jz-E1 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:14:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6354F43D; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:14:16 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHG9G76027194; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:09:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHG9Gir027193; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:09:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:09:16 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> - <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <455DD9DD.5060906@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:09:16 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -49029,44 +30249,11 @@ I don't propose to forget it. But, it is not on _my_ list of things to focuse on. Someone else has to do it :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6PG-0004gv-Od - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:17:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6PF-0004gC-QL - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:17:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6PF-0004f6-3o - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:17:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6PE-0004eq-Rx - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:17:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6PE-0007Tq-JY - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:17:32 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl6P9-00014P-LZ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:17:27 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl6P9-0002d0-Ka; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:17:27 +0100 +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:17:27 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <455DDEA3.2090306@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:17:27 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -49097,46 +30284,13 @@ However, I'm afraid, I don't have 27 years left. And, top issue on my priority list are dependent types. As everybody knows meanwhile. I want to get rid of that stupid ANY workaround in the series domains. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Vx-0006dJ-4Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Vu-0006c6-UV - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Vs-0006bD-Rd - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6Vs-0006bA-JI - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6Vs-00013l-ES - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:24:24 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C11B40F93; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:24:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHGJDpE027610; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:19:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHGJD8F027609; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:19:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:19:13 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ht.awk - <200611171557.kAHFvoR07894@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:19:13 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > I asked the same question some days ago (forget the typos) | > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00436.html @@ -49150,46 +30304,11 @@ root Tim Daly writes: I'm interested :-) --- Gaby, usual troublemaker - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Xo-0007g4-KP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:26:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Xn-0007fq-AP - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:26:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6Xl-0007fe-Nz - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:26:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6Xl-0007fb-Lk - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:26:21 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6Xl-0001Ug-8L - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:26:21 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAHGQ8Ih029171 - for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:26:08 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20394 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2006 16:26:10 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Cliff Yapp; 17 Nov 2006 16:26:10 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAHGG9Z07945; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:16:09 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:16:09 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Martin Rubey - Rubey on 17 Nov 2006 08:43:19 +0100) Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list > I guess it's Peter. Laurentiu says he doesn't know about the axiom > side, but I know he knows foam. Tim, do you know about that stuff? @@ -49206,51 +30325,15 @@ contribution to the Aldor effort involved making Aldor work inside Axiom and writing a tutorial for the Aldor final product. Despite my objections I did use the compiler to implement my PhD thesis work. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6d4-0003cE-UZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:31:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6d2-0003ZP-FV - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:31:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6d1-0003X7-8o - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:31:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6d1-0003Wj-2F - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:31:47 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6d0-0002og-RZ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:31:47 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl6cz-0003ji-5c; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:31:45 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl6cz-0003VQ-2Q; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:31:45 +0100 +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:31:44 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Tim Daly Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> - <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <200611171616.kAHGG9Z07945@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:31:44 +0100 -Cc: list Dear Tim, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > I'm afraid that I'm more inclined to deeply document the existing compiler > before trying to tackle the problem of language modification. [...] @@ -49267,40 +30350,11 @@ Is the interface between Aldor and Axiom documented somewhere? I would be very happy to pay the price :-) -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6iy-0004Es-Cx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:37:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6iw-0004EQ-NZ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:37:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6iv-0004Bs-6d - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:37:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6iv-0004Bp-3p - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:37:53 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6iu-0003rZ-SY - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:37:53 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAHGbmLs009960 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:37:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:39:32 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <9qwt5um4iw.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list On 11/17/2006 05:17 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -49319,33 +30373,10 @@ that 128 character restriction. Come on... *dream*! I don't know how much is left for me, but I still have some dreams... ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6t0-0003oM-3f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:48:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6sx-0003kn-Iy - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:48:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl6sw-0003hr-DL - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl6sw-0003hV-3I - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6sv-0004IR-4O - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:48:13 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-103-168.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-103-168.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.116.168]) - by mwinf1903.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 519B01C00042 - for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:48:11 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:48:29 +0100 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: PATCH : retrieval of Stream from a KAF file Hello, @@ -49371,47 +30402,11 @@ my work on Stream). --% signatures of local functions - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl70n-0001YY-4Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:56:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl70d-0001QS-DY - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:56:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl70T-0001Bu-B3 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:56:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl70T-0001BU-3j - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:56:01 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl70S-0007KS-PU - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:56:01 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl70Q-0007mk-O8; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:58 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl70Q-0002oL-Kt; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:58 +0100 +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:55:55 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <455DDEA3.2090306@hemmecke.de> <9qwt5um4iw.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <455DE5C4.2000004@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:55:55 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -49437,48 +30432,12 @@ functions... Just have a look at the WishList for some others. Oh, I think we should drop Mupad-combinat from the wishlist. That's done. :-) -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl77L-0006m8-Ky - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:03:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl77F-0006iT-7U - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:03:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl77C-0006fm-6E - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:02:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl77A-0006e0-G2 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:02:57 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl779-00015c-JF - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:02:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E7F4F3D5; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:02:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHGvick028528; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:57:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHGvicB028527; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:57:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:57:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <9qodr6w066.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qirhef3gq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:57:44 +0100 -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner Martin Rubey writes: @@ -49531,47 +30490,12 @@ are deconstructed through pattern matching. Boot has a very limited support for algebraic types, but from what I understand so far it does not have pattern matching yet. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7H4-00052v-9j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:13:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7H2-00051s-H2 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:13:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7H1-00050r-0h - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:13:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl7H0-00050n-JU - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:13:06 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl7H0-0003G6-4a - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:13:06 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl7Gy-0001K0-SA; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:13:04 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl7Gy-0005Hv-Oo; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:13:04 +0100 +Date: 17 Nov 2006 18:13:03 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <9qodr6w066.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qirhef3gq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 18:13:03 +0100 -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -49604,46 +30528,12 @@ l.2 := g(l) add; But I guess, you know that. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7Kc-0008H2-71 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:16:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7KZ-0008EN-Cl - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:16:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7KX-0008CH-83 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:16:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl7KW-0008By-PB - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:16:44 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl6Tp-0000hy-J9 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:22:18 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl6To-0001gP-5k; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:22:16 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl6To-0002nn-2S; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:22:16 +0100 +Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:22:13 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <9qodr6w066.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:22:13 +0100 -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -49682,38 +30572,11 @@ we want to have types being first class, we will very likely need constants. What are "algebraic types"? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7M0-0001P9-Ky - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:18:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7Ly-0001Mw-Pq - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:18:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7Lt-0001Eo-9C - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:18:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl7Lt-0001Ea-2c - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:18:09 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl7Ls-0004lW-R5 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:18:09 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAHHHl2a010486; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:18:02 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey, - "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Re: SPAD and Aldor again Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:17:28 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey, Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: SPAD and Aldor again On November 17, 2006 11:56 AM Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -49732,52 +30595,12 @@ license issue? Are you planning to put anything on the Axiom Wiki about the Axiom/Aldor-combinat work? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7Ti-0002bz-AP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:26:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7Tg-0002aC-NO - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:26:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7Tf-0002Yo-FQ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:26:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl7Tf-0002YR-7o - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:26:11 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl7Tf-00070G-2h - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:26:11 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6664F3D7; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:25:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAHHL0kQ029012; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:21:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAHHKx3A029011; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:21:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 17 Nov 2006 18:20:59 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <9qodr6w066.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qirhef3gq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9q64def140.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 18:20:59 +0100 -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner Martin Rubey writes: @@ -49805,42 +30628,11 @@ Recursive algebraic types is a redundancy :-) goes without saying. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7fm-0007hb-Nh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:38:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7fl-0007fl-QF - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:38:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl7fi-0007YW-E8 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:38:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl7fi-0007Y9-6l - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:38:38 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl7fi-0001oO-04 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:38:38 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAHHcZLs011960 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:38:36 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:40:18 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem, - axiom-dev +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: map instead of map! in src/doc/book.pamphlet - <1163717236.11129.7.camel@ellipse> -Cc: - - On 11/16/2006 11:47 PM, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 =E0 23:04 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : @@ -49853,7 +30645,7 @@ On 11/16/2006 11:47 PM, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: >>> +++ src/doc/book.pamphlet >>> @@ -48550,7 +48548,7 @@ >>> \returnType{Type: TwoDimensionalArray Integer} ->>> =20 +>>> >>> To change the array destructively, use >>> -\spadfunFrom{map}{TwoDimensionalArray} instead of >>> +\spadfunFrom{map!}{TwoDimensionalArray} instead of @@ -49867,12 +30659,12 @@ of =2E. >> >> Obviously, there are a lot of commands that look pretty much like LaTe= -X.=20 +X. >> But I guess, hypertex code is not really processed by THE TeX so what = ->> language is that actually? And any chance that there is a bit more=20 +>> language is that actually? And any chance that there is a bit more >> documentation than that given in util.ht? ->=20 +> > It seems that you didn't see that book.pamphlet is a LaTeX book (THE > Axiom book :-) (\spadfunFrom is a LaTeX macro here). I use \spadfunFrom= @@ -49894,28 +30686,28 @@ OK, then let's look at it. \spadfunFrom{name}{Type} -prints "name" in the text and also puts two entries into the index.=20 +prints "name" in the text and also puts two entries into the index. Namely "name" and "Type". -Now when I saw that you replaced "map" by "map!" I thought that must be=20 -wrong... But no, there are already other things in book.pamphlet that=20 -look like \spadfunFrom{concat!}{List}$(u,v)$. Oh, but then clearly the=20 -definition of \spadfunFrom is wrong. It does not consider the case that=20 -the exclamation mark is a special character for makeindex.=20 -Unfortunately, LaTeX, makeindex, bibtex are not totally compatible. The=20 -exclamation mark is used by makeindex to introduce subindices. So it=20 +Now when I saw that you replaced "map" by "map!" I thought that must be +wrong... But no, there are already other things in book.pamphlet that +look like \spadfunFrom{concat!}{List}$(u,v)$. Oh, but then clearly the +definition of \spadfunFrom is wrong. It does not consider the case that +the exclamation mark is a special character for makeindex. +Unfortunately, LaTeX, makeindex, bibtex are not totally compatible. The +exclamation mark is used by makeindex to introduce subindices. So it must be escaped by " if it is part of the actual text. -Given that error, you will realize that the index in the Axiom-Book (at=20 -least in bookvol1.dvi) is wrong (or if you don't consider it wrong, it=20 +Given that error, you will realize that the index in the Axiom-Book (at +least in bookvol1.dvi) is wrong (or if you don't consider it wrong, it is at least ugly). -In order to show that at a small example and also to give a remedy for=20 -it I have created the file below where I check for ! (but only at the=20 -end of the word) and replace it by "!. In particular look what I did=20 +In order to show that at a small example and also to give a remedy for +it I have created the file below where I check for ! (but only at the +end of the word) and replace it by "!. In particular look what I did with the second \index entry and how that appears in the index. -Replace \iffalse by \iftrue and investigate the differences in the .dvi=20 +Replace \iffalse by \iftrue and investigate the differences in the .dvi file. Have fun! @@ -50008,37 +30800,11 @@ any array, use \spadfunFrom{copy}{TwoDimensionalArray}. \end{document} %%%END spadfunFrum.tex - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl821-0006t5-7i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:01:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl81y-0006pt-Mv - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:01:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl81v-0006lU-T2 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:01:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl81v-0006l8-JW - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:01:35 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl81u-0006HR-UG - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:01:35 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAHI1WLs012800 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:01:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:03:16 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -Cc: list On 11/17/2006 06:17 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On November 17, 2006 11:56 AM Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -50069,38 +30835,11 @@ consider that so important, since it is generatable from the sources by a simple "make html". Once, we have setup a website, we'll let the world know. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl849-0002Vr-GN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:03:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl846-0002Ov-7s - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:03:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl844-0002K7-0k - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:03:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl843-0002JS-Ru - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:03:47 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl843-0006mq-7l - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:03:47 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-103-168.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-103-168.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.116.168]) - by mwinf1902.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3E18B1C00099; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:03:18 +0100 (CET) -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Martin Rubey - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <455DDEA3.2090306@hemmecke.de> <9qwt5um4iw.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:02:41 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 17:17 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : @@ -50111,37 +30850,11 @@ Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 17:17 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : Get rid of ANY almost everywhere. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8Dx-0007RX-Pj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:14:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8Dw-0007RI-JG - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:14:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8Dv-0007R2-4c - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:14:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8Du-0007Qz-RJ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:13:58 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl8Du-0008UA-Ld - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:13:58 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAHIDZ2a024311; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:13:51 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Re: SPAD and Aldor again Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:13:10 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: SPAD and Aldor again On November 17, 2006 1:03 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -50192,104 +30905,35 @@ they can attract interest in the work and maybe more volunteers. Why not put the output of "make hmtl" on the web now? I think it is very important. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8Fg-00083w-Qp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:15:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8Ff-00083p-3c - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:15:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8Fc-00083a-KK - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:15:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8Fc-00083X-G5 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:15:44 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.132] (helo=mail12c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl8Fc-0000NW-BP - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:15:44 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail12c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAHIFOq2027616; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:15:39 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem, - "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: Re: SPAD and Aldor again Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:15:04 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem, Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: Re: SPAD and Aldor again On November 17, 2006 1:03 PM Vanuxem Gregory ->=20 +> > Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 17:17 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : ->=20 +> > [...] ->=20 +> > > I want to get rid of > > that stupid ANY workaround in the series domains. ->=20 +> > Get rid of ANY almost everywhere. ->=20 +> Why get rid of ANY? What is wrong with this idea? A very similar idea is used in Java that is often called "type ducking". This is a way to have dynamic types in an otherwise statically typed language. What is wrong with that? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8QY-0000E5-Qp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:27:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8QV-00009r-3b - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:26:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8QT-00006x-GJ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:26:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8QT-00006e-4W - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:26:57 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl8QS-0002b8-U1 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:26:57 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl8QR-00043O-9r; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:26:55 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl8QR-0005bI-6R; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:26:55 +0100 +Date: 17 Nov 2006 19:26:52 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <9qodr6w066.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qirhef3gq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9q64def140.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 19:26:52 +0100 -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -50323,58 +30967,27 @@ But I didn't say "algebraic"! I want it for any functions F, G: So, in what sense is "algebraic" not covered by the above? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8dV-00067V-VJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:40:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8dU-00065y-84 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:40:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8dS-00063l-CF - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:40:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8dR-00063R-W4 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:40:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl8dR-0005Jm-KY - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:40:22 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl8dP-0006VD-Fe; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:40:19 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl8dP-0005wm-CP; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:40:19 +0100 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -From: Martin Rubey Date: 17 Nov 2006 19:40:16 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > On November 17, 2006 1:03 PM Vanuxem Gregory -> >=20 +> > > > Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =C3=A0 17:17 +0100, Martin Rubey a =C3=A9c= rit : -> >=20 +> > > > [...] -> >=20 +> > > > > I want to get rid of > > > that stupid ANY workaround in the series domains. -> >=20 +> > > > Get rid of ANY almost everywhere. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > Why get rid of ANY? What is wrong with this idea? A very similar > idea is used in Java that is often called "type ducking". This > is a way to have dynamic types in an otherwise statically typed @@ -50390,10 +31003,10 @@ UPXS(INT, x, 0) has a parameter "expansion point", (in the example equal to zero), which is given as argument to "series": -series(sin x, x=3D1783) returns an element of domain ANY, although it really +series(sin x, x=1783) returns an element of domain ANY, although it really should be an element of UPXS(FRAC INT, x, 1783). There is some code hidden = in -the interpreter that makes the user believe that it is an element of=20 +the interpreter that makes the user believe that it is an element of UPXS(FRAC INT, x, 1783), but if you want to use series in SPAD code, you ar= e in trouble. @@ -50421,47 +31034,11 @@ Then you could use it also in SPAD. No problem at all for Aldor. -Martin - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8i1-00083U-W8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:45:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8hz-00082d-QO - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:45:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl8hx-00081m-UX - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:45:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl8hx-00081Z-LH - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:45:01 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl8hx-0005xV-Ly - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:45:01 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAHIinXi021031 - for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:44:53 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30509 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2006 18:44:49 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 17 Nov 2006 18:44:49 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAHIYbf08089; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:34:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:34:37 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 17 Nov 2006 17:19:13 +0100) Subject: Re: ht.awk - <200611171557.kAHFvoR07894@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > I asked the same question some days ago (forget the typos) > | > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00436.html @@ -50484,44 +31061,11 @@ so I can remove it. http://daly.axiom-developer.org/Axiom.NAG.tgz -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl9CX-0006XK-IT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:16:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl9CV-0006V4-9W - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:16:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl9CU-0006Sy-0R - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:16:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl9CT-0006Sn-K9 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:16:33 -0500 -Received: from [81.103.221.48] (helo=mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl9CS-0004Cy-Hq - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:16:33 -0500 -Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) - by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061117191648.WIZC27023.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:16:48 +0000 -Received: from cpc2-hers1-0-0-cust94.hers.cable.ntl.com ([86.3.80.95]) - by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061117191653.NHZ644.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc2-hers1-0-0-cust94.hers.cable.ntl.com>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:16:53 +0000 -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again +Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:16:44 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Martin Rubey - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <1163758780.4352.14.camel@speedy.home> - <9qd57mweb2.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:16:44 +0000 -Cc: list +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 11:36 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > Peter Broadbery writes: @@ -50543,106 +31087,44 @@ On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 11:36 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: Yup. Reverse engineering the .ao is possible, but not a serious proposition. -Peter - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl9vI-0001hH-Pi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:02:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl9vH-0001en-HG - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:02:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gl9vF-0001bO-Ou - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:02:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gl9vF-0001bA-LE - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:02:49 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gl9vF-0005cd-1Q - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:02:49 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl9vD-0001ph-Vi; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:02:47 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gl9vD-00087W-SI; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:02:47 +0100 +\start +Date: 17 Nov 2006 21:02:40 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Peter Broadbery Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455BFA01.8080806@yahoo.com> - - <455D35F6.8080501@yahoo.com> - <9qac2q34dk.fsf_-_@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <1163758780.4352.14.camel@speedy.home> - <9qd57mweb2.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <1163791004.4352.38.camel@speedy.home> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 17 Nov 2006 21:02:40 +0100 -Cc: list Peter Broadbery writes: > On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 11:36 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > > Peter Broadbery writes: -> > + > > > On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 08:43 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: -> > -> > > > And, as you know, in my opinion the first step in making this happen is to -> > > > make the Axiom interpreter (!) understand Aldor generated code, i.e., -> > > > dependent types. -> > > -> > > This is currently stymied by the aldor compiler not being able to generate -> > > .asy files where there are dependent types in signatures -> > > (try 'foo: (R: Ring, t: R)'). The .asy generation code enters a loop, which -> > > is a bit poor. -> > -> > Does this mean that one would need to modify the Aldor compiler? I.e., we would -> > need access to the sources? -> + +> > > > And, as you know, in my opinion the first step in making this +> > > > happen is to make the Axiom interpreter (!) understand Aldor +> > > > generated code, i.e., dependent types. + +> > > This is currently stymied by the aldor compiler not being able +> > > to generate .asy files where there are dependent types in +> > > signatures (try 'foo: (R: Ring, t: R)'). The .asy generation +> > > code enters a loop, which is a bit poor. + +> > Does this mean that one would need to modify the Aldor compiler? +> > I.e., we would need access to the sources? + > Yup. Reverse engineering the .ao is possible, but not a serious > proposition. -> + > Peter Oops. That's the worst news I heard for a long time. It's time to send email to Stephen Watt again. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlACu-0002So-T7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:21:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlACt-0002R2-12 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:21:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlACn-0002Ii-1J - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:21:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlACm-0002IY-VE - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:20:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlACc-0008HK-Lz - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:20:48 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GlAB3-0007u9-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:19:09 +0100 -Subject: Re: ht.awk -To: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:19:09 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: ht.awk root wrote: > @@ -50651,52 +31133,26 @@ root wrote: I have fetched the file. Thanks. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAbQ-0001My-NZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:46:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAbO-0001MZ-Kn - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:46:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAbM-0001M0-S1 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:46:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlAbM-0001Lw-OW - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:46:20 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlAbM-0005Dn-Kl - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:46:20 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.55.102]) - by mwinf1923.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D6F41C000BC; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:46:18 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Re: SPAD and Aldor again -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page +\start Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:46:37 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Re: SPAD and Aldor again Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 13:15 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > On November 17, 2006 1:03 PM Vanuxem Gregory -> >=20 +> > > > Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 17:17 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit = : -> >=20 +> > > > [...] -> >=20 +> > > > > I want to get rid of > > > that stupid ANY workaround in the series domains. -> >=20 +> > > > Get rid of ANY almost everywhere. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > Why get rid of ANY? What is wrong with this idea? A very similar > idea is used in Java that is often called "type ducking". This > is a way to have dynamic types in an otherwise statically typed @@ -50707,32 +31163,32 @@ interpreter there is no problem, it coerces it for you (not sure though). For example imagine that you want to emulate dependent type in Spad: -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +=============== )abbrev package TEST Test ++ test package -Test(): Exports =3D=3D Implementation where - I =3D=3D> integer - Exports =3D=3D> with +Test(): Exports == Implementation where + I ==> integer + Exports ==> with test: (n:Integer,p:Integer) -> Any ++ just a test withtest: (a:Integer,p:Integer) -> Any ++ just anaother test - Implementation =3D=3D> add - test(n,p) =3D=3D - z :=3D coerce(n::PrimeField(p))$AnyFunctions1(PrimeField(p)) + Implementation ==> add + test(n,p) == + z := coerce(n::PrimeField(p))$AnyFunctions1(PrimeField(p)) z - withtest(a,p) =3D=3D - --b :=3D retract(test(a,p))-- + 9::PrimeField(p) - t :=3D test(a,p) - b :=3D retract(t)$AnyFunctions1(PrimeField(p)) - b :=3D b + 8::PrimeField(p) + withtest(a,p) == + --b := retract(test(a,p))-- + 9::PrimeField(p) + t := test(a,p) + b := retract(t)$AnyFunctions1(PrimeField(p)) + b := b + 8::PrimeField(p) coerce(b)$AnyFunctions1(PrimeField(p)) --coerce(b)$AnyFunction1(PrimeField(p)) -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +=============== Here, in function test, you create a type that depends on one of the parameter passed to this function. In the second function (withtest) you @@ -50743,38 +31199,15 @@ prime number is known at compile time (p, a function parameter (again)). Another example: -(4) -> ((1/4)=3D(1/4)::ANY)@Boolean +(4) -> ((1/4)=(1/4)::ANY)@Boolean (4) false -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAgB-0004g8-Cp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:51:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAg9-0004dz-CX - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:51:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAg7-0004aJ-P5 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:51:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlAg7-0004a9-Er - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:51:15 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlAg7-00062o-Er - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:51:15 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GlAex-00026y-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:50:03 +0100 -Subject: Re: PATCH : retrieval of Stream from a KAF file -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:50:03 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Axiom-Developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: PATCH : retrieval of Stream from a KAF file > Hello, > @@ -50809,53 +31242,12 @@ change would make a one element list: into invalid stream (I think such list is a valid stream od strings). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlApw-0001Vx-Kz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:56:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 17 Nov 2006 21:56:04 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <9qodr6w066.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qirhef3gq.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9q64def140.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qk61uoro3.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 17 Nov 2006 21:56:04 +0100 -Cc: Christian Aistleitner, list +Cc: Christian Aistleitner Martin Rubey writes: @@ -50869,47 +31261,13 @@ The point I'm trying to make -- I suspect it must be too indirect -- is that if we have algebraic types, recursive types (whether algebraic or not) comes with the framework. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAtd-00069k-8U - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:05:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAtb-00066w-6S - for list; 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Thanks! Just to make sure. Yes, I would like to have it undr SVN. I have a question: Do I legally have the right to do that? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAzg-0001ph-Il - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:11:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAzf-0001pB-GU - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:11:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlAzd-0001oi-OC - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:11:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlAzd-0001oZ-E3 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:11:25 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlAzc-0001mK-Ud - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:11:25 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.55.102]) - by mwinf1911.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 42AF91C0009E; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:11:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: RE: Re: SPAD and Aldor again -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem +From: Gregory Vanuxem To: Bill Page - <1163796397.3235.17.camel@ellipse> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:11:41 +0100 -Cc: list I forgot, @@ -50974,50 +31307,25 @@ Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 21:46 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : [...] -> (4) -> ((1/4)=3D(1/4)::ANY)@Boolean ->=20 +> (4) -> ((1/4)=(1/4)::ANY)@Boolean +> > (4) false But - (8) -> (3=3D(3::ANY))@Boolean + (8) -> (3=(3::ANY))@Boolean (8) true -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlBGm-0005FG-Qu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:29:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlBGl-0005Bc-3e - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:29:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlBGk-00059I-E3 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlBGj-00058n-UA - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:29:05 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlBGj-0004Dv-P2 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:29:06 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.55.102]) - by mwinf1908.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7F2A81C00098; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:29:04 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: PATCH : retrieval of Stream from a KAF file -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:29:24 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: PATCH : retrieval of Stream from a KAF file Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 21:50 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : > > Hello, -> >=20 +> > > > Here is a small patch that fixes the incorrect retrieval of some Stre= ams > > from a KAF file. It replaces 'EQ' by 'EQUAL' for comparisons of strin= @@ -51027,31 +31335,31 @@ gs. > > consider a big issue : equality with object of type 'Any' (I postpone= d > > my work on Stream). -> >=20 +> > > > --- src/algebra/stream.spad.pamphlet.old 2006-11-17 16:59:13.00000000= 0 > > +0100 > > +++ src/algebra/stream.spad.pamphlet 2006-11-17 17:24:39.000000000 +0= 100 > > @@ -647,8 +647,8 @@ -> > =20 -> > Rep :=3D Record(firstElt: S, restOfStream: %) -> > =20 -> > - explicitlyEmpty? x =3D=3D EQ(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp -> > - lazy? x =3D=3D EQ(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp -> > + explicitlyEmpty? x =3D=3D EQUAL(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp -> > + lazy? x =3D=3D EQUAL(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp -> > =20 +> > +> > Rep := Record(firstElt: S, restOfStream: %) +> > +> > - explicitlyEmpty? x == EQ(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp +> > - lazy? x == EQ(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp +> > + explicitlyEmpty? x == EQUAL(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp +> > + lazy? x == EQUAL(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp +> > > > --% signatures of local functions -> > =20 -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > +> > That looks strange for me. NullStream and NonNullStream should be > unique objects, so I would probably turn them into symbols. Your > change would make a one element list: This is because NullStream and NonNullStream are globales variables -(NullStream is a macro (NullStream =3D=3D> $NullStream$Lisp)) but when yo= +(NullStream is a macro (NullStream ==> $NullStream$Lisp)) but when yo= u store a Stream and retrieve it a new string is created and therefore these strings do not share their memory locations. I do not understand @@ -51068,43 +31376,17 @@ If you want )trace STREAM and restore a '[]::Stream(PI)', you'll see: This is because they do not share the same memory location. The output of Stream.explicitlyEmpty? has to be T. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlBJu-0000Qq-SY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:32:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlBJs-0000Mj-99 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:32:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlBJq-0000Ke-Ki - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:32:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlBJq-0000KN-Eg - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:32:18 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlBJq-00053X-8G - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:32:18 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-102-102.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.55.102]) - by mwinf1908.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2EBB01C00088; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:32:17 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: PATCH : retrieval of Stream from a KAF file -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch - <1163798964.3235.35.camel@ellipse> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:32:36 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: PATCH : retrieval of Stream from a KAF file Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 22:29 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : > Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 =E0 21:50 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit = : > > > Hello, -> > >=20 +> > > > > > Here is a small patch that fixes the incorrect retrieval of some St= reams > > > from a KAF file. It replaces 'EQ' by 'EQUAL' for comparisons of str= @@ -51114,31 +31396,31 @@ ings. > > > consider a big issue : equality with object of type 'Any' (I postpo= ned > > > my work on Stream). -> > >=20 +> > > > > > --- src/algebra/stream.spad.pamphlet.old 2006-11-17 16:59:13.000000= 000 > > > +0100 > > > +++ src/algebra/stream.spad.pamphlet 2006-11-17 17:24:39.000000000 = +0100 > > > @@ -647,8 +647,8 @@ -> > > =20 -> > > Rep :=3D Record(firstElt: S, restOfStream: %) -> > > =20 -> > > - explicitlyEmpty? x =3D=3D EQ(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp -> > > - lazy? x =3D=3D EQ(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp -> > > + explicitlyEmpty? x =3D=3D EQUAL(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp -> > > + lazy? x =3D=3D EQUAL(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp -> > > =20 +> > > +> > > Rep := Record(firstElt: S, restOfStream: %) +> > > +> > > - explicitlyEmpty? x == EQ(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp +> > > - lazy? x == EQ(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp +> > > + explicitlyEmpty? x == EQUAL(frst x,NullStream)$Lisp +> > > + lazy? x == EQUAL(frst x,NonNullStream)$Lisp +> > > > > > --% signatures of local functions -> > > =20 -> > >=20 -> >=20 +> > > +> > > +> > > > That looks strange for me. NullStream and NonNullStream should be > > unique objects, so I would probably turn them into symbols. Your > > change would make a one element list: ->=20 +> > This is because NullStream and NonNullStream are globales variables -> (NullStream is a macro (NullStream =3D=3D> $NullStream$Lisp)) but when = +> (NullStream is a macro (NullStream ==> $NullStream$Lisp)) but when = you > store a Stream and retrieve it a new string is created and therefore > these strings do not share their memory locations. I do not understand @@ -51150,40 +31432,11 @@ I forgot (not the first time) that equal return t or nil so there is no Sorry, -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEOm-0000kz-Bo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEOk-0000kI-9k - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEOi-0000jQ-7i - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlEOh-0000jM-TA - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:32 -0500 -Received: from [68.230.240.38] (helo=eastrmmtao01.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlEOh-0007Kt-UN - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:32 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao01.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061118004935.YNAA18146.eastrmmtao01.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:35 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp - id o0ob1V00E21H6rq0000000; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:48:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:43 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -51251,40 +31504,9 @@ Data Input/Output APIs? Agreed. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEUi-00028z-Qx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:55:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEUh-00028T-MQ - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:55:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEUe-00026l-Jc - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:55:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlEUe-00026i-Ga - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:55:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlEUe-0007xM-Hr - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:55:40 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAI0tWSA031298 - for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:55:36 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12860 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2006 00:55:32 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 18 Nov 2006 00:55:32 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAI0jNw08325; - Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:45:24 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:45:24 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: Axiom download @@ -51294,45 +31516,11 @@ Having just returned from a business trip and being overtired I made a mistake and copied the wrong directory for upload. Please delete that copy and I'll upload a corrected version shortly. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEdi-0005Jx-OL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:05:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEdg-0005Jc-AS - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:05:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEdb-0005JO-QN - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:04:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlEdb-0005JL-LS - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:04:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlEdb-0000sK-74 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:04:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A3740E31; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:04:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAI0xhjF006247; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:59:45 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAI0xhXQ006246; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:59:43 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 18 Nov 2006 01:59:43 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <455DB8E9.6030309@yahoo.com> - - <455E58A7.5070208@yahoo.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Nov 2006 01:59:43 +0100 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -51385,44 +31573,13 @@ All of that, including interfacing with nay reasonable language used in the computational science community -- that list goes beyond Fortran and C. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEfP-0005aU-AZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:06:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEfN-0005Zn-MG - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:06:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlEfL-0005YO-BO - for list; 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Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:26:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 02:26:26 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, list -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [266] - branches/build-improvements/src +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: branches/build-improvements/src -whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +Waldek Hebisch writes: | Revision: 266 | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=266&view=rev @@ -51500,50 +31625,19 @@ not longer run. I spent the whole day tracking down the breakage. I'll revert this patch, so that you can fletch it out in greater details, and the branch remains still operational. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlGU7-0000bv-G5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:03:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlGU5-0000bR-Gs - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:03:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlGU3-0000bF-Pv - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:03:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlGU3-0000bC-LH - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:03:11 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlGU3-0004x5-3f - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:03:11 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6766240E85; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:03:08 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAI2vx6F008048; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:58:01 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAI2vwqS008047; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:57:58 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 03:57:58 +0100 -Cc: list, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: + +Bill Page writes: | On November 17, 2006 8:26 PM Gabriel Dos Reis | > -| > whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +| > Waldek Hebisch writes: | > | > | Revision: 266 | > | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=266&view=rev @@ -51600,53 +31694,20 @@ That should not matter. I don't know yet -- if I knew I would just fix it :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlHB3-00037c-RQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlHB0-00036T-Ni - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlHAx-00033I-0M - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlHAw-000332-QN - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlHAw-0001wJ-OR - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FD540E38; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:47:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAI3gIPw008531; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:42:20 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAI3gIY1008530; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:42:18 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 04:42:18 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, list, - whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Gabriel Dos Reis writes: -| "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +| Bill Page writes: | | | On November 17, 2006 8:26 PM Gabriel Dos Reis | | > -| | > whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +| | > Waldek Hebisch writes: | | > | | > | Revision: 266 | | > | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=266&view=rev @@ -51717,48 +31778,14 @@ xpressionSpace((odd? ((Boolean) %))): Unexpected HT command: \spad These may actually be not related to the patch. Sorry for that. --- Gaby - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlHH3-0005gg-K7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:53:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlHH1-0005e6-O3 - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:53:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlHH1-0005dG-1m - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:53:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlHH0-0005cn-Pt - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:53:46 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlHH0-0002Pp-Px - for list; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:53:47 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EC440F05; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:53:43 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAI3mYcP008567; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:48:36 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAI3mYwf008566; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:48:34 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 04:48:34 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, list, - whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 17, 2006 9:58 PM Gaby wrote: | > ... @@ -51813,46 +31840,14 @@ Th reason why I thought the branch is broken is that I have a script that "watches" the output of the build log and it got confused by the new behaviour. Then I spend the whole day on it :-/ --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlKmw-0005UA-70 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:38:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlKmu-0005Tg-D9 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:38:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlKms-0005TM-WA - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:38:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlKms-0005TJ-R8 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:38:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlKms-00025q-Jv - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:38:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0594F3C7; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:38:48 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAI7XfCQ010585; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:33:43 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAI7Xf3w010584; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:33:41 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 08:33:40 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -51963,48 +31958,12 @@ be planned ahead. Given that, I would like to temporarilly revert the patch and work it out in fuller details. Opinions? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlLVH-0004fs-7P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:24:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlLVE-0004ed-SJ - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:24:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlLVC-0004dT-BV - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:24:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlLVC-0004dP-5J - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:24:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlLVC-0008Eb-3W - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:24:42 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAI8OPje010200 - for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:24:33 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32221 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2006 08:24:26 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 18 Nov 2006 08:24:26 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAI8EKw08576; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:14:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 03:14:20 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 18 Nov 2006 08:33:40 +0100) -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src - -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - list - -Gaby, +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch > yes, it deletes the existing NRLIBs. > However, I'm not sure where whole SPAD needs to be recompiled, or only @@ -52064,52 +32023,16 @@ bugs in that process. The end result is that builds are much faster because two-pass processing can be eliminated and the generated code is faster even though the build is shorter. - - - As you guys dive into the code you're beginning to overrun areas where I've been working. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlMBU-0007kJ-OJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:08:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlMBT-0007k7-M8 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:08:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlMBS-0007ju-JR - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:08:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlMBS-0007jp-Fu - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:08:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlMBS-0005ss-8J - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:08:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26E44F3EC; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:08:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAI9397M011665; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:03:11 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAI939vs011664; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:03:09 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 18 Nov 2006 10:03:09 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Boot - <200610020142.k921ga532045@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Nov 2006 10:03:09 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -52129,48 +32052,14 @@ Very interestingly, it has much ressemblance with core Haskell. However, the "new boot" still needs some tuning, but I prefer it over the "old boot". --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlMMu-0007OL-8F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:20:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlMMs-0007Lk-Lv - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:20:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlMMr-0007Jl-JO - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:20:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlMMr-0007JY-FR - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:20:09 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlMMr-0007I9-7Y - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:20:09 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E424F3EF; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:20:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAI9EtOS011732; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:14:58 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAI9Et0F011731; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:14:55 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: - axiom: [266]branches/build-improvements/src - - <200611180814.kAI8EKw08576@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 10:14:55 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | Gaby, | @@ -52254,37 +32143,12 @@ I think the database part is what Waldek originally wanted to fix. Hey, that is why it is opens source, right? ;-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlNMA-0006WW-5e - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:23:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlNM6-0006Th-UP - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:23:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlNM5-0006SW-Cy - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:23:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlNM5-0006SH-2R - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:23:25 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlNM4-0006Sq-Io - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:23:25 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-30.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.30]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kAIANLKW014013 - for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:23:22 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id D7A0F1A9F6; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:23:33 -0600 (CST) -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 04:23:33 -0600 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: [build-improvements] src/boot package hell - Hi, The basic idea of this patch is to push into package boottran when @@ -53487,32 +33351,11 @@ Build and tested on an i686-pc-linux-gnu. @ \eject - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlO7L-000446-MF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:12:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlO7J-00043j-Nx - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:12:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlO7I-00043O-LU - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:12:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlO7I-00043K-FZ - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:12:12 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlO7I-0007lm-1t - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:12:12 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GlO5t-0005qb-00; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:10:45 +0100 -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:10:45 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list, axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > False alarm -- they are built "early". @@ -53615,45 +33458,11 @@ we do out of tree build 'util.ht' is unavailable during algebra build (it is installed later). Also, the path is now wrong and I am not sure if AXIOM is set during build. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlSMn-0006oD-0a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:44:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlSMj-0006md-9b - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:44:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlSMh-0006kj-IW - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:44:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlSMg-0006kZ-RN - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:44:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlSMg-0000vC-K0 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:44:23 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65E84F3BC; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:44:10 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAIFd6Lo016229; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:39:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAIFd63t016228; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:39:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:39:06 +0100 -Cc: list, axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -53812,38 +33621,11 @@ I'll see. Interpsys is not installed, I'll see whether its removal is OK. Then, you have identifier (yet) another bug. Thanks. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlTNM-0005bc-GG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:49:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlTNJ-0005ag-TT - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:49:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlTNI-0005aQ-Mz - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:49:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlTNI-0005aN-Jc - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:49:04 -0500 -Received: from [66.196.97.68] (helo=web56709.mail.re3.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlTNI-0001iD-IE - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:49:04 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14953 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2006 16:49:03 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; - b=OLr3B+BSLcxZHqacnPFIraS7ShdGcpIh7gU2VHarUZoVs260eTxJUd/d8henc74lkxXeLlIHUHSPZuY3FLEOzcXsPjl7REybEERdvQ+ZiiFC+3Bhzn/DENSQYk3tMt4+ZtaVVW8/z5nbnIQYqCNpcV+lHK5vji56tQvCT6/pNoI=; -Received: from [70.161.176.93] by web56709.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:49:03 PST Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:49:03 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again --- Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -53915,60 +33697,11 @@ I wish I knew more about such things. I suppose at some level any Turing complete language can express ideas expressed in other languages, so perhaps there are techniques I'm not aware of. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Sponsored Link - -Online degrees - find the right program to advance your career. -Www.nextag.com - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Sponsored Link - -Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. -$310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! -www.LowerMyBills.com/lre - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlTxL-00023d-9w - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:26:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlTxJ-00021G-Te - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:26:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlTxH-0001wm-Ar - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:26:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlTxH-0001wd-1P - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:26:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlTxG-0006sT-Us - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:26:15 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60E741094; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:26:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAIHL1kl017739; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:21:03 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAIHL1hF017738; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:21:01 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:21:00 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:21:00 +0100 -Cc: list Cliff Yapp writes: @@ -54006,38 +33739,12 @@ ambitious and approximate the ideals. Lisp interface may be a proof-of-concept, but my belief is that it should not be the final answer. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlUGw-0006Wv-FC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:46:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlUGv-0006U7-02 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:46:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlUGs-0006NU-1K - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:46:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlUGr-0006N5-Sb - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:46:29 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlUGr-0001ZD-R3 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:46:30 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAIHjhss026118; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:45:53 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:45:38 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch On November 18, 2006 2:34 AM Gaby wrote: > @@ -54152,38 +33859,10 @@ possible proclaim optimization and that it does achieve the goal of database optimization (which is a separate issue). Personally I don't see anything to gain by reverting it. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlUki-0000zc-M9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:17:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlUkg-0000z6-UA - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:17:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlUke-0000yD-1B - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:17:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlUkd-0000xy-Le - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:17:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlUkd-0005wC-Jx - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:17:15 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FF340F6C - for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:17:13 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1GlUkc-0001hY-02 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:17:14 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 18 Nov 2006 19:17:13 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: overwriting only few funtions in a package. Hello, @@ -54218,40 +33897,11 @@ then axiom calls the usual expand of TranscendentalManipulations. Is it a bug ? - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlW0I-0000UN-Ss - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:37:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlW0H-0000Rn-Ey - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:37:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlW0D-0000J6-Mc - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:37:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlW0D-0000IQ-Ee - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:37:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlW0D-00055Y-BK - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:37:25 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GlW07-0001i2-CZ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:37:19 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GlW07-0005Rl-AH; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:37:19 +0100 +Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:37:18 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: overwriting only few funtions in a package. -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:37:18 +0100 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -54274,49 +33924,14 @@ UsualExpand(R, F) == TranscendentalManipulations(R, F) add but I didn't try. - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlW84-0002fN-Ea - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:45:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlW83-0002eZ-0c - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:45:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlW82-0002eA-FS - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:45:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlW82-0002e4-9Q - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:45:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlW82-0006LF-5L - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:45:30 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17BB40E38; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:45:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAIJeF3d019530; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:40:17 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAIJeFAx019529; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:40:15 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:40:15 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 18, 2006 2:34 AM Gaby wrote: | > @@ -54395,60 +34010,36 @@ testsuite. I have far more extensive experience with DejaGnu than with QMTest. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure people would object to DejaGnu for various reasons. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlX6m-0008Om-2q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlX6k-0008OB-BD - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlX6j-0008Nv-1x - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlX6i-0008Ns-Qg - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:12 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlX6i-00073u-P8 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:12 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-11-249.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-11-249.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.153.249]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2E111C000A9; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:47:46 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: overwriting only few funtions in a package. -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Francois Maltey Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:47:24 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: overwriting only few funtions in a package. Le samedi 18 novembre 2006 =E0 19:17 +0100, Francois Maltey a =E9crit : -> Hello,=20 ->=20 +> Hello, +> > 1/ Can I overwrite only few functions in a package ? ->=20 -> I want to keep exposed the built-in function=20 +> +> I want to keep exposed the built-in function > removeSinSq $ TranscendentalManipulations (Integer, Expression Interg= er) > and use my own function in my own package : > expand $ UsualExpand (Integer, Expression Interger) ->=20 +> > Is it possible ? ->=20 +> > 2/ I put this in my .axiom.input file, but it isn't perfect : ->=20 +> > )cd > )cd Axiom > )library USEXPAND > )set expose add constructor UsualExpand > )set expose drop constructor TranscendentalManipulations ->=20 +> > In this cas axiom uses the built-in expand. I can't do expand (cos (2*x= )). ->=20 +> > Then I reread the init file : )re ../.axiom.input > And then expand (cos (2*x)) uses the new package. @@ -54465,7 +34056,7 @@ package but already called in the first frame for example). > If I add a first line expand (cos (a+b)) in the init file, at the first= line. > then it seems that axiom use the new expand. ->=20 +> > But if I add expand (cos (a+b)) at the end of the init file, > then axiom calls the usual expand of TranscendentalManipulations. @@ -54475,44 +34066,12 @@ Gni? This is strange, thanks for this information. There are a lot... -Hope that helps, - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlX7O-00006J-6c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlX7N-00006A-DR - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlX7L-00005q-Sj - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlX7L-00005m-Nw - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:51 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlX7L-00076j-LK - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:51 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAIKmTLs002609 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:48:30 +0100 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:50:22 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: - axiom: [266]branches/build-improvements/src - -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - list +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch > This ultimately raised the issue of how to enforce testsuite and the > whole build process. I don't have much time left this afternoon. I @@ -54529,38 +34088,12 @@ http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/software/aldor/ I could imagine that the rewrite should not be terribly hard. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlXDY-0001uH-1c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:55:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlXDV-0001ra-0A - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:55:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlXDS-0001po-Cq - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:55:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlXDS-0001ph-88 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:55:10 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.190] (helo=mail70c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlXDS-0007ks-6n - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:55:10 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail70c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAIKsdil019227; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:54:54 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:54:38 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch On November 18, 2006 2:40 PM Gaby wrote: @@ -54658,48 +34191,12 @@ http://www.gnu.org/software/dejagnu I did not see anything to which I would immediately object. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlY8M-0001De-Kb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:53:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlY8K-000196-Kw - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:53:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlY8J-00016Y-5x - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:53:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlY8J-00016M-14 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:53:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlY8I-0001Dp-TT - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:53:55 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GlY8E-0002oG-NP; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:53:50 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GlY8E-0000EY-MP; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:53:50 +0100 -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: - axiom: [266]branches/build-improvements/src - - <455F720E.5050507@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 18 Nov 2006 22:53:50 +0100 -Cc: list, axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, - whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: branches/build-improvements/src +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -54724,88 +34221,16 @@ anyway. Although I must say that I like OutputForm. Unfortunately, the compiler segfaults over my modifications currently. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlYQr-0006KC-S0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:13:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlYQq-0006Jb-Gs - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:13:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlYQo-0006J1-7A - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:13:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlYQo-0006Iy-47 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:13:02 -0500 -Received: from [69.49.111.215] (helo=pmail25c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlYQn-00045m-Qv - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:13:02 -0500 -Received: from pmail25c2.megamailservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by pmail25c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAIMCxLg017023 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) - for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:13:00 -0500 -Received: (from Unknown UID 600@localhost) - by pmail25c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id - kAIMCxsY017022 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:12:59 -0500 - sender to Bill Page using -f -Received: from 192.168.1.165 (192.168.1.165 [192.168.1.165]) by - webmail.anikast.ca (Webmail 2.0) with HTTP for - ; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 17:12:58 -0500 -Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:12:58 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: list - charset=UTF-8 -Subject: test - -test - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlYwO-00007g-1s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:45:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlYwM-00006m-6q - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:45:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlYwK-0008Vs-SF - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:45:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlYwK-0008Vo-L1 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:45:36 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlYwK-0007ji-Ku - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:45:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1164F3E4; - Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:45:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAIMeLLV021776; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:40:24 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAIMeL5m021775; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:40:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: [266]branches/build-improvements/src From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Nov 2006 23:40:21 +0100 Cc: list, axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, - whebisch@users.sourceforge.net + Waldek Hebisch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -54860,42 +34285,12 @@ I don't know -- this is Axiom ;-) I'll give news on this front, later -- definitely, not today. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlbD2-000782-9Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:11:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlbCz-000734-TG - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:10:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlbCx-0006xv-N2 - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:10:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlbCx-0006xh-Kb - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:10:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlbCx-0000vW-6x - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:10:55 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAJ1AgLs016791 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:10:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:12:39 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey - <9q3b8g4e1d.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: list, axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, - whebisch@users.sourceforge.net Subject: AxiomUnit - - +Cc: Waldek Hebisch On 11/18/2006 10:53 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -54930,44 +34325,12 @@ How would you see the big picture anyway? (How should AldorUnit/AxiomUnit work? How would input files look like? What would be generated? What would be compiled? What is a testsuite?) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gleiu-0002aX-E5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:56:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gleit-0002YN-1m - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:56:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gleis-0002XC-9h - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:56:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gleis-0002X0-4n - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:56:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gleis-0003Te-6C - for list; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:56:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9C44F3B8; - Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:56:01 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAJ4ooRh029166; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:50:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAJ4oogm029165; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:50:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 19 Nov 2006 05:50:50 +0100 -Cc: gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Axiom on solaris 10 - Hi Camm, I'm looking at the GCL bits of Bill's message @@ -55012,120 +34375,30 @@ Hi Camm, What would be your take on this? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GliFE-00031A-Ja - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:41:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GliFC-0002yn-7D - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:41:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GliFA-0002wE-K0 - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:41:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GliFA-0002w1-F1 - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:41:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GliFA-0000Gl-Ff - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:41:40 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAJ8fJpu029121 - for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:41:27 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1669 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2006 08:41:20 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 19 Nov 2006 08:41:20 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAJ8VDo09517; - Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:31:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:31:13 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: bonn Is there anyone on this list near Bonn, Germany? --t - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GljVN-000829-5o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:02:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GljVK-0007zd-EY - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:02:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GljVH-0007yM-S0 - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:02:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GljVH-0007y7-GA - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:02:23 -0500 -Received: from [193.124.167.24] (helo=inpbox.inp.nsk.su) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GljVG-0004xB-Uh - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:02:23 -0500 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su ([193.124.167.6]) - by inpbox.inp.nsk.su with esmtp (Exim 4.50) - id 1GljV8-0001xl-Qy; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:02:14 +0600 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su (star.inp.nsk.su [127.0.0.1]) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAJA2E4i026444; - Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:02:14 +0600 -Received: from localhost (grozin@localhost) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id kAJA2Em0026441; - Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:02:14 +0600 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:02:14 +0600 (NOVT) From: Andrey G. Grozin -To: root Tim Daly +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: bonn -Cc: list On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, root wrote: > Is there anyone on this list near Bonn, Germany? --t I am in Karlsruhe, not quite near Bonn, but at least in Germany -Andrey - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gljlf-0003LH-Rv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:19:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gljlc-0003JM-87 - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:19:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gljlb-0003Ht-8E - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:19:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gljlb-0003Hb-2q - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:19:15 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gljla-0008FS-GD - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:19:14 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GljlU-0001no-Ne; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:19:08 +0100 -Received: from kratt3.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.49] - helo=kratt3.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GljlU-0005jB-KQ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:19:08 +0100 -To: Ralf Hemmecke - - <455F720E.5050507@hemmecke.de> <9q3b8g4e1d.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <455FAF87.9050105@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 19 Nov 2006 11:19:05 +0100 -Cc: list, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net, - axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: AxiomUnit +Cc: Waldek Hebisch Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -55149,77 +34422,10 @@ aldor 1.0.3. Yes. But this is governed by lack of time. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Glqxa-0006jE-JB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:00:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlqxY-0006gV-8p - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:00:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GlqxR-0006b6-B1 - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:59:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GlqxQ-0006au-Sr - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:59:56 -0500 -Received: from [69.49.111.219] (helo=pmail29c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlqxQ-00072z-S2 - for list; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:59:57 -0500 -Received: from pmail29c2.megamailservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by pmail29c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAJHxq3E012291 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) - for ; 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Either they must be properly indented, or th end-of-line character must be @@ -55518,40 +34664,13 @@ escaped. as.boot wasn't compliant. Fixed. sayBrightly ['"----------------- ",y,'" --------------------"] - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm5Br-0007qk-Ks - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:11:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm5Bq-0007pe-5l - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:11:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm5Bp-0007pQ-Df - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:11:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gm5Bp-0007pK-AX - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:11:45 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gm5Bp-0003LU-5a - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:11:45 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gm5Bb-0003xC-5V; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:11:31 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gm5Bb-0001PF-0f; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:11:31 +0100 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -From: Martin Rubey Date: 20 Nov 2006 10:11:28 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: AxiomUnit, DejaGnu, and QMTest -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > Ralf and Martin mentioned AldorUnit as possibly relevant and suggest that > AldorUnit could be re-implemented in SPAD for Axiom (AxiomUnit). @@ -55563,43 +34682,11 @@ Just an idea: maybe we could offer Vladimir Bondarenko a bounty for porting AldorUnit to libaxiom? I could explain him what is needed, and it shouldn't be difficult at all. Maybe he can use some money? (I'd suggest 100$). -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm5oF-0001lX-3k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:51:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm5nu-0001cv-KH - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:51:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm5ne-0001XJ-Il - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:51:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gm5nb-0001Wl-L9 - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:50:48 -0500 -Received: from [193.124.167.24] (helo=inpbox.inp.nsk.su) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gm5nb-0006xP-Hh - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:50:47 -0500 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su ([193.124.167.6]) - by inpbox.inp.nsk.su with esmtp (Exim 4.50) - id 1Gm5nD-0005tc-TI; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:50:23 +0600 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su (star.inp.nsk.su [127.0.0.1]) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAK9oNkj026050; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:50:23 +0600 -Received: from localhost (grozin@localhost) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id kAK9oNKT026047; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:50:23 +0600 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:50:23 +0600 (NOVT) From: Andrey G. Grozin -To: Gernot Hueber Gernot Hueber +To: Gernot Hueber Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - - <20061120084943.62832.qmail@mail.xmt.at> -Cc: list On Mon, 20 Nov 2006, Gernot Hueber wrote: > With great help from Gregory, I have started to implement a wrapper library to @@ -55614,44 +34701,11 @@ library in the free Axiom. Just one important moment. GSL is GPL-licensed. So, Axiom wich can be linked with GSL (even dynamically) can only be distributed under GPL. -Andrey - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm611-0007cR-Fm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:04:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm60z-0007c6-6K - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:04:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm60v-0007bM-G1 - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:04:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gm60v-0007bF-5v - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:04:33 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gm60t-0001Xy-RN - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:04:32 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAKA4992007716 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:04:17 -0500 -Received: (qmail 23977 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gabriel Dos Reis; 20 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAK9s3N18142; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:54:03 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:54:03 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gernot Hueber Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - - <20061120084943.62832.qmail@mail.xmt.at> -Cc: list Gernot, @@ -55666,35 +34720,10 @@ Could you post the patches necessary to make this work? I have a thread of work similar to this and I'd like to see how you are doing your version. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm64S-0001JX-4U - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:08:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm64Q-0001HU-JY - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:08:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm64M-0001DE-Dj - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:08:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gm64M-0001Cu-2t - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:08:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.218.130.236] (helo=mail.xmt.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gm64K-0002E8-8P - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:08:05 -0500 -Received: (qmail 66390 invoked by uid 89); 20 Nov 2006 10:07:59 -0000 - - <20061120084943.62832.qmail@mail.xmt.at> - +\start +Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:07:59 +0100 From: Gernot Hueber To: Andrey G. Grozin -Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:07:59 +0100 -Cc: list Subject: Re: SPAD and Aldor again Hi, @@ -55727,51 +34756,11 @@ library C functions from Aldor/Axiom - for sure not a circumvent solution for any external library written in any language, but at least for some cases it works. -Gernot - -> -> Andrey - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm6lo-0000YZ-Ie - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:53:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm6lm-0000Xv-7M - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:52:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gm6ll-0000XQ-1n - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:52:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gm6lk-0000XI-Rn - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:52:56 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gm6lk-0002iT-Ij - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:52:56 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAKAqhMx016274 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:52:43 -0500 -Received: (qmail 31285 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2006 10:52:45 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Andrey G. Grozin; 20 Nov 2006 10:52:45 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAKAgcZ18192; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:42:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:42:38 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gernot Hueber Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - - <20061120084943.62832.qmail@mail.xmt.at> - - <20061120100759.66389.qmail@mail.xmt.at> -Cc: list Gernot, Andrey, @@ -55786,35 +34775,10 @@ Please post any followup license-related discussion ONLY on the axiom-legal mailing list. That list was established to remove any discussion of licensing from the axiom-developer mailing list. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmDIY-0000am-3D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:51:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmDIV-0000YP-Kg - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:51:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmDIT-0000WP-KO - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:51:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmDIT-0000W2-5p - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:51:09 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmDIT-0000vI-0u - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:51:09 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C3E411CF - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:51:05 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1GmCw2-0001mA-Gd - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:27:58 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey +\start Date: 20 Nov 2006 18:27:38 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: Can I define a function inside a function ? Hello, @@ -55927,42 +34891,11 @@ EssaiMapRec (R, F): Exports == Implementation where -- fct2 (y:K):F == x * fct (y::F) map (fct2, #1::F, numer x) / map (fct2, #1::F, numer x) - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmEA1-0006Nv-PV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:46:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmEA0-0006M6-2U - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:46:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmE9w-0006HB-U1 - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:46:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmE9w-0006Gx-CD - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:46:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmE9w-0001fx-6t - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:46:24 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564304F3F6; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:46:09 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAKIf26B001794; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:41:04 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAKIf1K4001793; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:41:01 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 20 Nov 2006 19:41:01 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: Can I define a function inside a function ? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Nov 2006 19:41:01 +0100 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -55995,49 +34928,12 @@ Did you try expandONElevel(recursiveMap, x, ftc1) where fct1 y == expandONElevel(y, FromMainParameters) -? - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmEqe-0001UG-Am - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:30:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmEqc-0001Se-Q3 - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:30:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmEqZ-0001PT-Ln - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:30:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmEqZ-0001P5-1g - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:30:27 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmEqY-0007Kc-Sb - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:30:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BCFC0548 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:30:25 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 15465-19-2 for ; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:30:20 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EA1BE6C3 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:30:20 -0600 (CST) -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (soliton.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.146.33]) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF2446DE03 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:30:19 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 72FD41A9F6; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:30:38 -0600 (CST) -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 20 Nov 2006 13:30:38 -0600 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: [build-improvements] extend scripts/document - Hi, bootsys has the property that when the input file is malformed, @@ -56330,41 +35226,11 @@ basic functionality and refine later as needs arise. if [ "$#" = "3" ]; then REDIRECT=$2 - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmFBl-0007If-La - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmFBi-0007GB-Sw - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmFBd-0007CR-Q3 - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmFBc-0007Bh-VG - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:13 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmFBc-000728-VF - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:13 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAKJpwU9017766 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:07 -0500 -Received: (qmail 13528 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2006 19:51:58 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 20 Nov 2006 19:51:58 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAKJfcl18713; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:41:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:41:38 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on 20 Nov 2006 13:30:38 -0600) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] extend scripts/document -Cc: list > bootsys has the property that when the input file is malformed, > it will print out an diagnostic message, partially translate the @@ -56377,37 +35243,11 @@ comment in the output file. The build process checks used to check each generated file for that comment line and fail if it was not found. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmFen-0000Xi-6x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:22:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmFek-0000W7-Gp - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:22:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmFef-0000Ta-OQ - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:22:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmFef-0000TO-EB - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:22:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmFee-0008Go-QA - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:22:13 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8161C41334 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:22:10 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1GmFec-00024D-SI - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:22:10 +0100 +Date: 20 Nov 2006 21:22:10 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey To: list Subject: Re: Can I define a function inside a function ? - -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 20 Nov 2006 21:22:10 +0100 Hello, again and thanks a lot for this good advice ! @@ -56451,43 +35291,13 @@ I must type op (map (fct1, argument y)) And I don't understand this last difference... - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmHUG-00080X-W4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:19:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmHUF-00080S-PK - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:19:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmHUD-0007yR-2y - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:19:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmHUC-0007y8-Qu - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:19:32 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmHUC-00041R-Nx - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:19:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678B74F3B8; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:19:18 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAKMECtw007111; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:14:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAKMECZf007110; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:14:12 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:14:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [build-improvements] extend scripts/document - <200611201941.kAKJfcl18713@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:14:11 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > bootsys has the property that when the input file is malformed, | > it will print out an diagnostic message, partially translate the @@ -56506,45 +35316,11 @@ do the right thing. I can testify it was quite effective. The other thing I'm not testing yet is when it says that a file is not found. I left that for later refinement. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmHiK-0004ot-Dd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:34:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmHiI-0004og-Im - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:34:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmHiG-0004nF-Fb - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:34:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmHiG-0004nA-8e - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:34:04 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmHiF-0006m1-Pu - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:34:03 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAKMXqGQ022785 - for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:33:57 -0500 -Received: (qmail 18753 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2006 22:33:52 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 20 Nov 2006 22:33:52 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAKMNK119024; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:23:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:23:20 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 20 Nov 2006 23:14:11 +0100) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] extend scripts/document - <200611201941.kAKJfcl18713@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list in src/interp/bootlex.lisp you'll see the comment output ;;;Boot translation finished for ~a @@ -56553,47 +35329,13 @@ this is written out if the file is successfully translated. if the translation fails this line will not exist. if a grep for this line fails then the translation failed. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmI5i-0003Pf-ER - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:58:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmI5g-0003Pa-Sq - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:58:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmI5d-0003PO-HG - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:58:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmI5d-0003PL-AI - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:58:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmI5d-0001Ti-Bz - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:58:13 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9927B40F53; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:58:10 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAKMqr32008071; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:52:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAKMqrQk008070; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:52:53 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:52:52 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [build-improvements] extend scripts/document - <200611201941.kAKJfcl18713@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611202223.kAKMNK119024@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:52:52 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | in src/interp/bootlex.lisp you'll see the comment output | ;;;Boot translation finished for ~a @@ -56602,34 +35344,11 @@ Aha, I was working with src/boot ! :-) So, there effectively is no way to return a meaningful exit status? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmJoX-00085d-OT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:48:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmJoV-00080a-Ng - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:48:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmJoU-0007yQ-DB - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:48:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmJoU-0007yG-8X - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:48:38 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmJoU-00006l-2c - for list; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:48:38 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmJn9-0000zB-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:47:15 +0100 -Subject: Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: - [266]branches/build-improvements/src -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:47:15 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: SF.net SVN: axiom: Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -56735,45 +35454,12 @@ prefer to use plain 'make' as a developement target (plus for 'make && make dvi && make check', but other arrangements are also acceptable. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmQ5N-0002fL-JX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:30:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmQ5L-0002aL-BO - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:30:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmQ5J-0002VW-LE - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:30:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmQ5J-0002VJ-A4 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:30:25 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmQ5J-0004BT-9M - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:30:25 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAL7U4Yl026348 - for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:30:12 -0500 -Received: (qmail 31926 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2006 07:30:05 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 21 Nov 2006 07:30:05 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAL7Jmo19201; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:19:48 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:19:48 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: Original distribution - http://daly.axiom-developer.org/NAGcdrom.tgz This is a copy of the original CD from NAG marked "Open Axiom Sources". @@ -56782,40 +35468,11 @@ It might also have some utilities for Waldek's hypertex work. Gaby, you might want to put this in SVN. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmSw5-0000Gt-41 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:33:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmSw2-0000GR-N5 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:33:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmSvx-0000Dk-FH - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:33:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmSvx-0000DQ-4C - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:32:57 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.187] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmSvw-0005aX-Sa - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:32:57 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so198451nfb - for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:32:55 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=MwtXcohoL0saIxyQ1b7ajc3RUwuaU5UXGDIXpGD8XdMkppwMisnRkLC1S7pSwuqq8M5NhNMKzI/TsRz2PCyLUvERZPk9rL8UZySjkSprxSjU/dP92Cni0Z0yK6vNBLbv0Gy9sZhKTDazi4tDzmK0eGAj9Ev+BAcAkEl6316+Sa8= -Received: by 10.82.106.14 with SMTP id e14mr345354buc.1164105175108; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:32:55 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.181.2 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:32:54 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:32:54 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Antoine Hersen +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - -Cc: list Hello, @@ -56965,50 +35622,11 @@ elegant implementation in SPAD' to those problems. I am motivated, who want a PhD student ? -Regards, -Antoine Hersen - -(PS - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmUCH-0006rP-DV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:53:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmUCF-0006oO-Rw - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:53:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmUCE-0006m1-QJ - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:53:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmUCE-0006li-MC - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:53:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmUCE-0007dt-NS - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:53:50 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kALBrKnB021269 - for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:53:28 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14434 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2006 04:46:41 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 21 Nov 2006 04:46:41 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAL4aMh19118; - Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:36:22 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:36:22 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 20 Nov 2006 23:52:52 +0100) Subject: Re: [build-improvements] extend scripts/document - <200611201941.kAKJfcl18713@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611202223.kAKMNK119024@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | in src/interp/bootlex.lisp you'll see the comment output > | ;;;Boot translation finished for ~a @@ -57029,39 +35647,11 @@ the lesson is painful to put into practice on a daily basis, looking like some horrible form of overkill and time-wasting but glaringly obvious from a distance of years. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmUXZ-0001q1-NX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:15:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmUXY-0001mc-1L - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:15:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmUXV-0001gr-EJ - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:15:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmUXV-0001ga-5K - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:15:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmUXU-0004D1-I9 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:15:48 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9EC4FBB6; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:15:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1GmUXM-0001bu-D7; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:15:40 +0100 +Date: 21 Nov 2006 13:15:40 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: Am I buggy ? Internal error... -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 21 Nov 2006 13:15:40 +0100 -Cc: list - -Hello, Here is a minimal package which recursively maps an expression. I can compile it on the silver branch, but I can't use it. @@ -57098,46 +35688,13 @@ EssaiMapRec (R, F): Exports == Implementation where nullary? (op := operator y) => y::F op (map (fct3, argument y)) - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmW5z-00045X-7z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:55:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmW5v-000433-SV - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:55:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmW5t-00040K-2i - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:55:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmW5s-000405-Mw - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:55:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmW5s-0000kF-IM - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:55:24 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8293A4172D; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:55:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kALDo1QV022991; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:50:04 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kALDo1Ds022990; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:50:01 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 21 Nov 2006 14:50:01 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again -"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: +Antoine Hersen writes: [...] @@ -57249,45 +35806,10 @@ improved, how they can be expressed better, what kind of things cannot be expressed adequately in current SPAD. I'm not convinced by feature accretion from other languages. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmWeX-0003bg-GU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:31:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmWeW-0003ZA-0w - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:31:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmWeU-0003Vs-6N - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:31:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmWeT-0003VT-Sy - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:31:09 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmWeS-0007wD-8a - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:31:09 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kALEUkiJ004147 - for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:30:56 -0500 -Received: (qmail 15053 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2006 14:30:48 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 21 Nov 2006 14:30:48 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kALEKXv19692; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:20:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:20:33 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gernot Hueber - - <20061120084943.62832.qmail@mail.xmt.at> - <200611200954.kAK9s3N18142@localhost.localdomain> - <20061121085821.27739.qmail@mail.xmt.at> -Cc: list Subject: GCL and elf-loader Gernot, @@ -57301,37 +35823,10 @@ library interfaces and expose them as algebra packages. The key issue for me is figuring out the low level details of bolting elf-loader to GCL. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmWqX-000852-6p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:43:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmWqW-00084x-Dc - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:43:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmWqU-00084l-K5 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:43:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmWqU-00084i-Gt - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:43:34 -0500 -Received: from [62.218.130.236] (helo=mail.xmt.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GmWqU-0001qt-7f - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:43:34 -0500 -Received: (qmail 43913 invoked by uid 89); 21 Nov 2006 14:43:31 -0000 - - <20061120084943.62832.qmail@mail.xmt.at> - <200611200954.kAK9s3N18142@localhost.localdomain> - <20061121085821.27739.qmail@mail.xmt.at> - <200611211420.kALEKXv19692@localhost.localdomain> +\start +Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:43:31 +0100 From: Gernot Hueber To: Tim Daly -Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:43:31 +0100 -Cc: list Subject: Re: GCL and elf-loader In the meantime I had a look to www.swig.org, which has been mention on the @@ -57340,9 +35835,6 @@ axiom-* lists recently. IMHO it should be possible to generate wrappers especially the way to extend swig. Swig supports AllegroCL using FFI which is not included with GCL (at the moment) -Gernot - - root writes: > Gernot, @@ -57355,50 +35847,11 @@ root writes: > library interfaces and expose them as algebra packages. The key > issue for me is figuring out the low level details of bolting elf-loader > to GCL. -> -> Tim - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmXBc-0007VS-2a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:05:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmXBZ-0007Ss-JO - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:05:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmXBY-0007Rp-RI - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:05:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmXBY-0007Ra-Nt - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:05:20 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmXBY-0006nn-2V - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:05:20 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BB04FBC7; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:05:10 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kALExq7H025067; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:00:00 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kALExqL6025066; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:59:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Gernot Hueber - - <20061120084943.62832.qmail@mail.xmt.at> - <200611200954.kAK9s3N18142@localhost.localdomain> - <20061121085821.27739.qmail@mail.xmt.at> - <200611211420.kALEKXv19692@localhost.localdomain> - <20061121144331.43912.qmail@mail.xmt.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 21 Nov 2006 15:59:52 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gernot Hueber Subject: Re: GCL and elf-loader Gernot Hueber writes: @@ -57412,43 +35865,12 @@ Gernot Hueber writes: I was thinking that the elf-loader approach would be very fruitful for Axiom as a long term solution. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmXRk-0005yr-03 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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- Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:45:55 +0000 -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again +Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:46:14 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Antoine Hersen - - -Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:46:14 +0000 -Cc: list - +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again I was going to write a fairly long flame as a reply. I'll just state that the aldor compiler is actually better structured than most 200K+ @@ -57568,43 +35951,11 @@ as an instance variable - it's a mapping between your type and an underlying one. That said, a default representation of Rep + Record might be an interesting idea. - -Peter - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmcxI-00068K-M5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:15:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmcxF-00063K-55 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:14:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmcxC-0005yg-19 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:14:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmcxB-0005y7-Iq - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:14:53 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GmcxB-0008Ep-5i - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:14:53 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kALLEmHn021010 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:14:48 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:14:39 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Peter Broadbery Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again - <1164141974.4432.73.camel@speedy.home> -Cc: list > Rep and Per are good for many things, but it might be worth adding a > shorthand for 'my representation is just a record'. Don't think of Rep @@ -57641,43 +35992,11 @@ replace that (above and in everywhere.as file) by something else like I'm really curious. -Thanks in advance -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmdA5-0002cI-U7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:28:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmdA3-0002Zd-Id - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:28:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmdA2-0002XC-0c - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:28:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmdA1-0002Wp-P9 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:28:09 -0500 -Received: from [81.103.221.49] (helo=mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmdA1-00020W-I0 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:28:09 -0500 -Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) - by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061121212836.QUHQ1865.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:28:36 +0000 -Received: from cpc1-hers1-0-0-cust687.hers.cable.ntl.com ([86.2.174.176]) - by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061121212823.LYVY1848.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc1-hers1-0-0-cust687.hers.cable.ntl.com>; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:28:23 +0000 -Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again +Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:28:43 +0000 From: Peter Broadbery To: Ralf Hemmecke - - - <1164141974.4432.73.camel@speedy.home> <45636C3F.4010705@hemmecke.de> -Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:28:43 +0000 -Cc: list +Subject: re: SPAD and Aldor again On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 22:14 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Rep and Per are good for many things, but it might be worth adding a @@ -57722,46 +36041,11 @@ via convention. % is a different thing to the type being defined - this matters for add-inheritance and in categories. -Peter - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmdig-0005BL-4M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmdie-00059A-S5 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmdid-00055B-6a - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmdid-00054w-3i - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmdic-0000bc-Lb - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:54 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A78E874412; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:51 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D96FC6EABE; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:50 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Boot +\start Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:03:50 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Boot -Thread-Index: AccK8R5juRXqOazOSVytJm9OLm/fawCxqF+A From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list - -Gaby, +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Boot If you plan to go ahead with the proposed documentation of "new boot" (aka. SHOE) I would be delighted to help. Perhaps @@ -57796,65 +36080,33 @@ Bill Page. On November 18, 2006 4:03 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Tim Daly writes: ->=20 +> > [...] ->=20 +> > | first, bill burge loved puns and i remember him explaining to -> | me that the latest version of boot was much better and more=20 +> | me that the latest version of boot was much better and more > | comfortable, ->=20 +> > Indeed, the "new boot" is much more comfortable than "old boot", > in many respects. It has a preliminary support for (dynamic) -> type-checking, algebra datatype and pattern matching.=20 ->=20 +> type-checking, algebra datatype and pattern matching. +> > I don't think there is much code in Axiom that takes advantage of > the features of "new boot". ->=20 +> > I believe I understand enough of it to start documenting it > properly. Very interestingly, it has much ressemblance with core > Haskell. ->=20 +> > However, the "new boot" still needs some tuning, but I prefer it > over the "old boot". ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmdzV-00043s-9X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmdzT-00041d-Ru - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmdzT-00040i-E2 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmdzT-00040U-49 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:19 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmdzS-000453-SZ - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:19 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3041F6CC3E; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D2BC36CA14; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" + +\start Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:21:12 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: AccJ4JiK0eolX3raRZOx1ezdqERwCgD2YQng From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Camm Maguire, - Aurelien Chanudet , list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Gaby, +Cc: Camm Maguire, Aurelien Chanudet What is the current status of build-improvements and compiling Axiom on MAC OSX? Does this work out of the box, i.e. configure && make? @@ -57866,51 +36118,25 @@ Axiom on the MAC so I was just thinking about updating my Sage package 'axiom4sage-0.1.spkg' to make this easier for them to install Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - On Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:37 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: ->=20 +> > On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > | The short story is I'd recommend leaving out the maxpage at least > | on macosx. In fact, we might make it a configure error at the > | moment. ->=20 +> > Hello Camm, ->=20 +> > Thanks for the extensive explanation -- I liked it. I'll implement > your suggestion. ->=20 -> -- Gaby - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gme7u-0001bi-9Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:30:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gme7s-0001ZP-CD - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:30:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gme7o-0001Ui-8y - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:29:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gme7n-0001UF-Rl - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:29:55 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gme7n-000637-Le - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:29:55 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gme7j-0001Pq-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:29:51 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 21 Nov 2006 17:29:51 -0500 -Cc: Aurelien Chanudet , list, - Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Aurelien Chanudet, Gabriel Dos Reis Greetings! Just FYI -- some email failure appears to have completely shut off axiom traffic :-(. I notice on the web a few outstanding @@ -57956,49 +36182,11 @@ Bill Page writes: > > > > Thanks for the extensive explanation -- I liked it. I'll implement > > your suggestion. -> > -> > -- Gaby -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmeQG-0003yI-Cv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:49:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmeQD-0003v3-AR - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmeQ9-0003r0-8U - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmeQ8-0003qk-Qy - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:52 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmeQ8-0000MX-Kb - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 74E2B6C8A1; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:51 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0BABC6CB08; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:50 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:49 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: AccNvk0CAAMw0oGqT5u//9ExuZdIXAAAGUxg From: Bill Page -To: "Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga" -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Ping: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Humberto, @@ -58012,68 +36200,37 @@ Regards, Bill Page. On Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:37 PM Gaby wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page writes: ->=20 +> > | Gaby, -> |=20 +> | > | What is the current status of build-improvements and compiling Axiom > | on MAC OSX? Does this work out of the box, i.e. configure && make? ->=20 +> > I'm waiting on Humberto's report. I have checked in anything Humberto > and Camm have suggested so far. ->=20 +> > | Does hyperdoc and graphics work? ->=20 -> I would like to know what Humberto's experience is. =20 ->=20 +> +> I would like to know what Humberto's experience is. +> > | I am not able to test this at the SourceForge farm. -> |=20 +> | > | I know someone working on Sage who would very much like to run > | Axiom on the MAC so I was just thinking about updating my Sage > | package 'axiom4sage-0.1.spkg' to make this easier for them to > | install Axiom. ->=20 -> I too would like to have it running there. =20 +> +> I too would like to have it running there. > Some students here tried several time (before I got all of Humberto's > suggestions) but failed; they are now kind resistent to the idea of > trying again. And it is Thanksgiving soon so they have their minds > elsewhere. :-\ ->=20 -> -- Gaby ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmefB-0006p9-GN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:04:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmef9-0006mr-VM - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:04:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmef7-0006hT-1g - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:04:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmef6-0006hB-Ss - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:04:20 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmef6-0003DO-G6 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:04:20 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kALN46Lj025449 - for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:04:10 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32513 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2006 23:04:06 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 21 Nov 2006 23:04:06 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kALMrjG20044; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:53:45 -0500 + +\start Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:53:45 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: Axiom Video Documentation @@ -58093,62 +36250,30 @@ The FLASH format will probably work inline in most browsers. The WMV format is the Windows Media Format. -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmf3Y-00073h-0p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmf3V-0006yc-9Z - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmf3U-0006wv-7N - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmf3U-0006wh-1l - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmf3T-0007vQ-Pk - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:32 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 14C6F6CA2B; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:31 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 28E566CA55; - Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:27 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom Video Documentation +\start Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Axiom Video Documentation -Thread-Index: AccNwWdhCqJ4dRMwSMqHCkQegi8FPwAAP37Q From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Axiom Video Documentation On Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:54 PM Tim Daly wrote: ->=20 +> > I've started experimenting with documenting Axiom using video. > You can find the initial attempts, evolving rapidly, at: ->=20 +> > http://daly.axiom-developer.org/literate ->=20 +> > Please let me know which of the four video formats you prefer. ->=20 +> > The AVI format appears to be Camtasia specific and require a > Camtasia codec which can be downloaded from the webpage. ->=20 +> > The MOV format is Apple QuickTime ->=20 +> > The FLASH format will probably work inline in most browsers. ->=20 +> > The WMV format is the Windows Media Format. ->=20 +> Without installing any new codec or other software, on Windows XP using FireFox as web browser, clicking on AVI and WMV both start @@ -58172,58 +36297,16 @@ feature of cycling back to the beginning and playing again indefinitely. I expected it to just stop like the others. In spite of that I preferred the FLASH version because it was fast to load and display. -Anyway, nice job! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmfPV-0007mE-CT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:52:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmfPT-0007jq-Rr - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:52:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmfPP-0007e8-V7 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:52:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmfPP-0007dj-DZ - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:52:11 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GmfPP-00046p-3O - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:52:11 -0500 -Received: (qmail 23080 invoked by uid 7797); 21 Nov 2006 23:49:03 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.071774 secs); 21 Nov 2006 23:49:03 -0000 - Camm Maguire, aurelien.chanudet@gmail.com, - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 21 Nov 2006 23:49:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:51:26 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigC63155CBEED7270BD0DBBAAE" -Cc: Camm Maguire, - Aurelien Chanudet , - list, Gabriel Dos Reis - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigC63155CBEED7270BD0DBBAAE +Cc: Camm Maguire, Aurelien Chanudet, Gabriel Dos Reis Page, Bill wrote: > Gaby, ->=20 +> > What is the current status of build-improvements and compiling Axiom > on MAC OSX? Does this work out of the box, i.e. configure && make? > Does hyperdoc and graphics work? I am not able to test this at @@ -58246,60 +36329,11 @@ l I think that's all that's needed to build, but I want to pull a clean source tree and try again. Maybe over the holiday weekend. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigC63155CBEED7270BD0DBBAAE - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFY5EGO8aX8Tqx8vgRApn2AJsF/QrUBNIoeA+uqWcfMMB638IbJgCcDLfq -maNwI3kUWYnqzDajg1opZXU= -=i2aV ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigC63155CBEED7270BD0DBBAAE-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmghv-0002fQ-D5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:15:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmght-0002cE-C6 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:15:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmghs-0002aQ-6v - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:15:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmghr-0002a7-W0 - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:15:20 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmghr-00046v-7N - for list; Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:15:19 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4682740F5A; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:15:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAM19sm3007657; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:09:56 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAM19sRL007656; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:09:54 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 22 Nov 2006 02:09:54 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: better pty patch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 02:09:54 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -58438,33 +36472,11 @@ This should be #if AXIOM_USE_OPENPTY --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmpuz-0004fC-Lt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:05:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmpus-0004Xj-TA - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:05:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmpuo-0004R7-1v - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:05:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmpun-0004QR-HR - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:05:17 -0500 -Received: from [62.218.130.236] (helo=mail.xmt.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmpul-0004PP-Ld - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:05:16 -0500 -Received: (qmail 95370 invoked by uid 89); 22 Nov 2006 11:04:58 -0000 +Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:04:58 +0100 From: Gernot Hueber To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom Video Documentation -Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:04:58 +0100 -Cc: list Hi, @@ -58478,12 +36490,6 @@ a special codec is required: "DirectShow codec wmsdmod.dll". Thanks for the good work, pls proceed with more :-) -Gernot - - - - - Page, Bill writes: > On Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:54 PM Tim Daly wrote: @@ -58526,91 +36532,25 @@ Page, Bill writes: > feature of cycling back to the beginning and playing again indefinitely. > I expected it to just stop like the others. In spite of that I > preferred the FLASH version because it was fast to load and display. -> -> Anyway, nice job! -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmqZL-0006pT-2x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:47:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmqZI-0006nq-Fl - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:47:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmqZF-0006mH-S4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:47:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmqZF-0006mB-G0 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:47:05 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmqZE-0006U3-Vb - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:47:05 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmqXz-0004hd-00 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:45:47 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:45:47 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Testing build-improvements Recent changes broken testing build-improvements. The typical problem is that 'int/input/INTHEORY.input' contains sum of INTHEORY.spad and PNTHEORY.spad. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmqb2-0008DE-8T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmqb0-0008Bi-Nq - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmqax-00087f-Oa - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmqax-00087S-Ci - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:51 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmqax-0006zo-8S - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 881C3751D3; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:50 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 70EB874DD8; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:48:48 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Functors (was: Licensing Aldor) -Thread-Index: AccOGeQHoo0SJfsOQCS6ex5ZKs8s2QACDWXg From: Bill Page -To: "Frederic Lehobey" Frederic Lehobey -Cc: list +To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Functors (was: Licensing Aldor) On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:35 AM Frederic Lehobey wrote: ->=20 +> > I believe I am starting to be slightly off-topic for axiom-legal > with this message, so I think it will be my last contribution to > this thread. @@ -58618,7 +36558,7 @@ On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:35 AM Frederic Lehobey wrote: Ok. I want to reply to one technical point so I will shift to axiom-developer. -> ...=20 +> ... > > > What I mean is being able to create domains in compiled code with > > > variables in their parameters (not change the value of the variable @@ -58627,20 +36567,20 @@ factorisation > > > of Axiom would be much easier to write *and maintain* (currently, > > > it is a kind of hack using the integers and contradicting the > > > grounding principles of Axiom). -> >=20 +> > > > I think you could expect a lot of help on this from Ralf Hemmecke > > and Martin Rubey. I am not entirely sure what you mean by "variables > > that do not change value after instantiation". I think this is the > > definition of a constant. So what you want to do should be possible. ->=20 +> > Let's be specific: ->=20 +> > PrimeField(7) ->=20 +> > and ->=20 +> > PrimeField(p) ->=20 +> > both work in interpreted mode whereas the second one is not compiled > by the old compiler (it has already been discussed some time -- years > -- ago on axiom-dev). @@ -58649,7 +36589,7 @@ factorisation Are you referring to the discussion of dependent types in Aldor function definitions such as - g(p:PositiveInteger,k:Integer):PrimeField(p) =3D=3D k::PrimeField(p) + g(p:PositiveInteger,k:Integer):PrimeField(p) == k::PrimeField(p) This looks innocent and "natural" in Aldor, and in the Axiom interpreter but William Sit and Ralf Hemmecke showed that in fact this is not really @@ -58664,7 +36604,7 @@ ml In the Axiom/SPAD compiler you can write such a functor as g(p:PositiveInteger, k:Integer):with point:()->PrimeField(p) - =3D=3D add point()=3D=3Dk::PrimeField(p) + == add point()==k::PrimeField(p) The function 'point' is necessary because a functor returns something of type category. The parameters pick out a particular function from @@ -58677,38 +36617,12 @@ the category. E.g. >From my point of view this is technically more correct than Aldor's syntax. -Regards, -Bill Page.=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmqs6-0004QU-KD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:06:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmqs3-0004OK-Or - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:06:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmqs0-0004L7-9I - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:06:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmqrz-0004Kc-8k - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:06:27 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmqrx-00045V-KY - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:06:26 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-16.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.16]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kAMC6NKW028822 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:06:23 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 5B9F21A9FB; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:06:48 -0600 (CST) -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 22 Nov 2006 06:06:48 -0600 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: [build-improvements] Remove K&R cruft from src/lib - While, I was looking at src/lib to gather unwritten assumptions made by the C programs, my eyes were glazing over the antiquated K&R C style declaration of functions. In 2006, we have no more reasons to write C @@ -62225,35 +40139,12 @@ various "broken" C codes, more on that latter. char search_buff[100]; --- 625,631 ---- - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmr3V-0002YF-5j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmr3S-0002Vu-Iy - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmr3O-0002SZ-BG - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmr3N-0002SM-RV - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmr3N-0003ku-LL - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:13 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmr3M-0001js-IE - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:12 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gmr1Z-0007m0-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:16:21 +0100 -Subject: Re: Functors -To: Bill Page Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:16:21 +0100 (CET) +To: Bill Page From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Subject: Re: Functors +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Bill Page wrote: > On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:35 AM Frederic Lehobey wrote: @@ -62312,40 +40203,12 @@ category theory you may be forced to introduce extra functors, but I would say that whole point of dependent types is to hide the extra machinery. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmrP1-0000qF-B7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:40:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmrOz-0000oC-Nw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:40:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmrOx-0000k0-1Q - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:40:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmrOw-0000jb-Eq - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:40:30 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GmrOv-0006cz-TE - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:40:30 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAMCeQHn017453 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:40:26 +0100 +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:40:26 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Functors -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey >> In the Axiom/SPAD compiler you can write such a functor as >> @@ -62413,44 +40276,12 @@ http://www.aldor.org/docs/HTML/chap7.html#4 Could you elaborate on this? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmrct-0003wi-5V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:54:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmrcq-0003tr-LB - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:54:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmrcl-0003pa-BL - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:54:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmrck-0003pK-Q4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:54:46 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmrci-0002DR-L5 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:54:46 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMCsGVM008331 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:54:29 -0500 -Received: (qmail 6785 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 12:54:17 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 22 Nov 2006 12:54:17 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMCi0720889; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:44:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:44:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:40:26 +0100) Subject: Re: Functors - <4564453A.5070300@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Frederic Lehobey +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > In order to type check that piece of code you need compile time > evaluation of foo. That is the reason why Aldor requires parameters of @@ -62459,42 +40290,11 @@ Cc: list, Frederic Lehobey In Axiom there would be no problem doing compile-time evaluation provided the appropriate algebra is loaded. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmsNp-0008Dw-TV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:43:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmsNo-0008CQ-0r - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:43:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmsNl-0008A0-18 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:43:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmsNk-00089L-9v - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:43:20 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmsNj-00086q-Uo - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:43:20 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E958F4F45F; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:43:09 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMDbhUR017736; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:37:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMDbhEP017735; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:37:43 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 22 Nov 2006 14:37:43 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 14:37:43 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -62504,32 +40304,10 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: sorry, I don't understand. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmsS5-00036m-No - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:47:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmsQ7-0001qI-Ao - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:45:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmsPx-0001hO-6E - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:45:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmsPx-0001hH-0V - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:45:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmsPv-0000Sk-Rq - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:45:36 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmsOh-0005qF-00 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:44:19 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:44:19 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Building Axiom twice The patch below eliminates the second build of Axiom and switches @@ -62652,35 +40430,11 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/s '(user::spad-save "$@"))' | DAASE=$(axiom_targetdir) ${LISPSYS} @ echo 6a ${AXIOMSYS} created --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmscH-00022n-Gw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:58:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmscF-00021S-91 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:58:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmscD-0001zu-7X - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:58:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmscC-0001za-GR - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:58:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmscC-0004gK-En - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:58:16 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gmsax-0006W5-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:56:59 +0100 -Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:56:59 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -62713,44 +40467,11 @@ TESTFR.input, VIEW2D.input. I suspect change to the document script, but have not verified this. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmtbX-0000OO-KR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:01:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmtbT-0000Kw-TB - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:01:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmtbR-0000J0-54 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:01:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmtbP-0000IW-VJ - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:01:32 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmtbP-0001tM-1u - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:01:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4519141523; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:01:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMEu0JE021589; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:56:03 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMEu0St021588; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:56:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Date: 22 Nov 2006 15:56:00 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -62791,35 +40512,11 @@ symptoms your are describing are. investigating... --- Gaby - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmtsj-000692-A9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:19:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmtsf-00066c-Lm - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:19:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmtsd-00064o-JB - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:19:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmtsd-00064M-8S - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:19:19 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmtsc-0007mr-Mk - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:19:19 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmtrG-0003PH-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:17:54 +0100 -Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:17:54 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -62860,45 +40557,11 @@ containing spaces inside. fi # --tangle may not be combined with any other - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmu27-000548-KQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:29:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmu25-00053L-RC - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:29:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmu23-00050g-4o - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:29:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmu22-00050S-L9 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:29:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmu22-0002dX-75 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:29:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE154F465; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:51 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMFNbtp022429; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:23:39 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMFNbqZ022428; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:23:37 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 22 Nov 2006 16:23:37 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 16:23:37 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -62987,40 +40650,11 @@ instead of the one user cares about. After I saw that, I decided not to remove interpsys, but to write down what the build flow should. We need that chart. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuZ7-0006jO-7n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:03:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuZ5-0006iD-DV - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:03:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuYz-0006cP-DN - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:03:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmuYz-0006bv-23 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:03:05 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmuYy-0006Ae-FH - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:03:04 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B484B411B8; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:03:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMFvdsJ023300; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:57:42 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMFvdnD023299; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:57:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Date: 22 Nov 2006 16:57:39 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -63079,44 +40713,11 @@ least that was my experience some time ago). Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuhR-0005B1-NZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:11:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuhP-0005A5-GP - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:11:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuhM-00058k-SL - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:11:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmuhM-00058a-LM - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:11:44 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmuhM-0000LM-Bw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:11:44 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMGBJ7a003732 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:11:27 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30990 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 16:11:21 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 22 Nov 2006 16:11:21 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMG16u21038; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:01:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:01:06 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 16:23:37 +0100) Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice - -Cc: list > My understanding is this: there is an Axiom image (interpsys) used at > compile time; think of as the image the build machine needs to drive @@ -63138,74 +40739,20 @@ interpsys + (the frequent file list loaded) => AXIOMsys which cuts down on the time it takes to perform computation. It's one of the dozens of optimizations which make Axiom run reasonably. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuoE-0004PA-Ue - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:18:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuoD-0004NX-MS - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:18:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmuoC-0004Le-5r - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:18:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmuoB-0004LC-QD - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:18:47 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmuoB-0002V1-Ka - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:18:47 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0157417C2 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:18:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMGDNgW023747 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:13:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMGDNF6023746; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:13:23 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:13:18 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: ENV - The use of ENV in the Makefiles conflicts with established practice with shells (that are POSIXilly correct). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmuv1-0004a5-Dr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:25:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmuuz-0004Y4-S5 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:25:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmuux-0004Uo-V4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:25:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmuux-0004Th-Nu - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:25:47 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmuuv-0004pN-Oq - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:25:46 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gmusw-0000E3-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:23:42 +0100 -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:23:42 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -63257,46 +40804,11 @@ One make in subdriectory have run extra check on stamp is redundant want bulk dependency on another subdirectory, but not in the main Makefile). - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmv4M-0007Gu-5Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:35:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmv4K-0007Dg-CK - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:35:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmv4I-0007AO-NS - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:35:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmv4I-00079s-I1 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:35:26 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmv4G-0007TV-QF - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:35:26 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81564F3DA; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:35:13 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMGU0qg024222; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:30:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMGU0Z1024221; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:30:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:29:59 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:29:59 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -63337,44 +40849,13 @@ This patchlet works for me. Could you test it? # --tangle may not be combined with any other # options. FIXME: Check that. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmv8b-0006BN-Kf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:39:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmv8Z-0006AH-1D - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:39:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmv8X-000690-ER - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:39:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmv8X-00068o-70 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:39:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmv8X-0000H6-0a - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:39:49 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E7A41C75; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:39:47 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMGYOfn024248; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:34:26 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMGYOvE024247; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:34:24 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:34:23 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice - - <200611221601.kAMG16u21038@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:34:23 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > My understanding is this: there is an Axiom image (interpsys) used at | > compile time; think of as the image the build machine needs to drive @@ -63399,43 +40880,11 @@ root Tim Daly writes: That begs the question: why not put those warm data and files in interpsys too, so that we only have one image to care about? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvCU-0001mi-NO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:43:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvCT-0001m9-0h - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:43:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvCQ-0001lY-IS - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:43:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmvCQ-0001lN-E6 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:43:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmvCQ-0001Wc-Du - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:43:50 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMGhLYR024551 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:43:33 -0500 -Received: (qmail 8449 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 16:43:23 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gabriel Dos Reis; 22 Nov 2006 16:43:23 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMGX9Y21080; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:33:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:33:09 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:23:42 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -Cc: list Stamp files are used for two purposes in the axiom build. @@ -63444,46 +40893,11 @@ like GCL and noweb. The second purpose is to provide a timestamp for the database files. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvG9-0003mY-C2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:47:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvG7-0003kd-CK - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:47:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvG3-0003iE-6a - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:47:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmvG2-0003hl-Rr - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:47:34 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmvG2-0002cQ-HF - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:47:34 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMGlLwu027007 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:47:21 -0500 -Received: (qmail 22285 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 16:47:22 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 22 Nov 2006 16:47:22 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMGb8v21086; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:37:08 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:37:08 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 17:34:23 +0100) Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice - - <200611221601.kAMG16u21038@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > That begs the question: why not put those warm data and files in > interpsys too, so that we only have one image to care about? @@ -63502,42 +40916,11 @@ axiom currently mutters about "reloading" databases when it starts. This SHOULD be the exception but, as I said, the timestamp mechanism is broken. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvIT-0006SK-TY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:50:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvIS-0006Rt-OZ - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:50:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvIQ-0006Qa-Nr - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:50:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmvIQ-0006QG-IC - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:50:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmvIQ-0003DJ-AT - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:50:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49094F448; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:49:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMGiWV4024553; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:44:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMGiViF024552; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:44:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:44:26 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:44:26 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -63601,101 +40984,37 @@ this: (3) build a Lisp image that contains objects from src/lib (a) so, we must have built src/lib before building the Lips image. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvMo-0001af-6b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvMl-0001X3-VF - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvMk-0001Tu-G3 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmvMk-0001Tc-5P - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:30 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmvMk-0003zR-8H - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:30 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DEB6C75711; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:28 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E920074AD3; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:27 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:54:26 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Testing build-improvements -Thread-Index: AccOVD8r3aVbL4HpTEOTAW5GBZIJiAAAP2Eg From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements Gaby On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:30 AM you wrote: -> ! chunk=3D$arg +> ! chunk=$arg > ... -> ! chunk=3D`echo -n $arg` +> ! chunk=`echo -n $arg` What shell actually requires such an awkward construction? Of if you wish why not write: - chunk=3D"$arg" + chunk="$arg" or even better :-) - chunk=3D`echo -n "$arg"` + chunk=`echo -n "$arg"` But I think "quotes" are only needed on argments to external commands like 'test', not on variable assignments or echo. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvWc-0001Xi-Ia - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:04:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvWa-0001Wi-Vw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:04:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmvWX-0001Vm-VA - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:04:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmvWX-0001Vd-MK - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:04:37 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GmvWW-0006dR-Vx - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:04:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25949 invoked by uid 7797); 22 Nov 2006 17:01:31 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.047918 secs); 22 Nov 2006 17:01:31 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 22 Nov 2006 17:01:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:05:09 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: ENV -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > The use of ENV in the Makefiles conflicts with established practice @@ -63703,37 +41022,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: And we don't export ENV to submakes, so I don't know if it's doing anything. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmvmo-0003nj-7A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:21:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmvmm-0003mJ-BV - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:21:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmvmk-0003kF-3S - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:21:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmvmj-0003jt-N8 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:21:21 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmvmj-0002Dc-6j - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:21:21 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gmvjy-0002YI-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:18:30 +0100 -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:18:30 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -63807,35 +41100,11 @@ and the recursive part will build subdirectories in this strictly sequential order. So, as long as recursive logic remains sequential stamps are redundant. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwB0-0000ay-1n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:46:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwAx-0000YU-A6 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:46:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwAt-0000UG-Be - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:46:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmwAs-0000U8-C6 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:46:18 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwAr-0000vq-NZ - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:46:18 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gmw9F-0004A9-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:44:37 +0100 -Subject: Re: ENV -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:44:37 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: ENV > > The use of ENV in the Makefiles conflicts with established practice @@ -63854,46 +41123,11 @@ empty. Current usage may (I am not sure if it does) add some whitespace at the beggining of shell command -- I think that leading whitespace is legal. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwBj-0001Er-AP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:47:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwBi-0001EY-8d - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:47:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwBg-0001Dj-Ef - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:47:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmwBg-0001Df-1h - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:47:08 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwBf-0001CE-UV - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:47:08 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMHkSR6002889 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:46:29 -0500 -Received: (qmail 22938 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 17:46:09 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gabriel Dos Reis; 22 Nov 2006 17:46:09 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMHZsW21120; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:35:54 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:35:54 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Zuazaga on Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:05:09 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: ENV - <45648345.5010306@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list > > The use of ENV in the Makefiles conflicts with established practice > > with shells (that are POSIXilly correct). @@ -63914,42 +41148,11 @@ ENV variable list and then prepend it to the make calls which has the effect of making the shell variables dynamically visible in the subtree of makes. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwKA-0003aK-PC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:55:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwK9-0003Za-H5 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:55:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwK6-0003YO-2F - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:55:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmwK5-0003YI-Vl - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:55:50 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwK5-00039X-Hs - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:55:49 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140DB41596; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:55:47 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMHoO6o025831; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:50:26 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMHoO26025830; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:50:24 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 22 Nov 2006 18:50:23 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 18:50:23 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -63983,45 +41186,13 @@ this one is one needed. Well, my shell (Zsh) is unhappy with the form chunk="$arg", when cunk is used later with -R. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwQA-0003Vg-G2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:02:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwQ6-0003RG-N6 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:02:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwQ4-0003Mm-4j - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:02:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmwQ3-0003MF-RI - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:01:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwQ3-000515-Bw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:01:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A994109B; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:01:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMHuYA8026152; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:56:37 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMHuYf3026151; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:56:34 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -Subject: Re: ENV - <45648345.5010306@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 22 Nov 2006 18:56:34 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: ENV -Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > The use of ENV in the Makefiles conflicts with established practice @@ -64038,42 +41209,11 @@ which has the logical effect of exporting ENV to Make. Furthermore, if the login shell export ENV, then Make (and sub-processes) sees its changed value whether or not we export it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwXx-0003Vn-HO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:10:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwXu-0003TD-Ij - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:10:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwXr-0003Q3-Vl - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:10:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmwXr-0003Po-Li - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:10:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwXq-00073G-87 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:10:03 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503A441097; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:09:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMI4WZ6026335; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:04:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMI4W0t026334; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:04:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:04:31 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: ENV -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:04:31 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -64119,46 +41259,13 @@ above is an experiment you can reproduce with a POSIX-compliant shell. The issue is very simple: avoid ENV. Use MAKEFLAGS (which I'm working on). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwbG-0007IV-17 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:13:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwbE-0007HG-JO - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:13:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwbC-0007GS-Vo - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:13:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmwbC-0007GL-Qh - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:13:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwbC-0008Ai-MX - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:13:30 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CC74155C; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:13:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMI860k026363; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:08:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMI86W5026362; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:08:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:08:05 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - <45648345.5010306@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611221735.kAMHZsW21120@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:08:05 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > > The use of ENV in the Makefiles conflicts with established practice | > > with shells (that are POSIXilly correct). @@ -64176,42 +41283,11 @@ It matters that we do avoid using it. Otherwise, we're setting a timebomb and it will blow (and it did for me -- that is how it came to my attention). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwfs-00021S-U2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:18:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwfr-0001zw-Dr - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:18:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwfp-0001zW-RT - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:18:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmwfp-0001zQ-OL - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:18:17 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwOC-0004Uh-CP - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:00:05 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A10B415AC; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:00:01 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMHsdwF026148; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:54:41 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMHsdJd026147; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:54:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 18:54:38 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 18:54:38 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -64254,44 +41330,11 @@ If you remove the dependency, you break parallel builds. (Currently, you can do parallel builds until you hit algebra -- assumign you don't have to build GCL). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwlC-0000DR-8Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:23:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwlA-0000Aa-Mq - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:23:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwl8-00007u-UL - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:23:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmwl7-00007c-IC - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:23:46 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmwl7-0002Wd-8u - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:23:45 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMINWFQ015558 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:23:40 -0500 -Received: (qmail 11356 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 18:23:32 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 22 Nov 2006 18:23:32 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMID7u21181; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:13:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:13:07 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 19:04:31 +0100) Subject: Re: ENV - -Cc: list > No, again you're making the assumption that ENV does not mean anything > particular. ENV means something very precise is POSIXilly correct @@ -64332,46 +41375,11 @@ change by changing the definitions of ${INT}, ${OBJ}, and ${MNT} So the point is that there are a lot of variables collected into ENV and they have a lot of different uses and abuses. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwms-0002lU-Rd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:25:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwmq-0002hc-Fx - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:25:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwmp-0002fW-1P - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:25:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmwmo-0002em-Bq - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:25:30 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmwmo-00036L-A0 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:25:30 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMIPUCI005530 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:25:30 -0500 -Received: (qmail 18588 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 18:25:29 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 22 Nov 2006 18:25:29 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMIF4l21187; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:15:04 -0500 +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:15:04 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 19:08:05 +0100) Subject: Re: ENV - <45648345.5010306@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611221735.kAMHZsW21120@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | The name ENV predates POSIX. > @@ -64389,51 +41397,20 @@ ok. s/ENV/GABY/ everywhere. everything will still work. ENV is just a local name created 20 years ago. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwpc-0007Ix-Dn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmwpa-0007GU-Mx - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwpZ-0007Eu-5J - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmwpY-0007Ei-W7 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmwpY-0003ox-Qo - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:21 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 193AB75749; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D927F755E5; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:28:18 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Testing build-improvements -Thread-Index: AccOX3VpPpfRo+LiT6u9XiUkBNw9igAAEYWw From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:50 PM Gaby wrote: -> | > ! chunk=3D$arg +> | > ! chunk=$arg Why does this fail? What is the value of $chunk? > | > ... -> | > ! chunk=3D`echo -n $arg` +> | > ! chunk=`echo -n $arg` > | Is this one missing quotes or does it not matter? @@ -64441,11 +41418,11 @@ Is this one missing quotes or does it not matter? > Bill Page wrote: > | What shell actually requires such an awkward construction? > | Of if you wish why not write: -> |=20 -> | chunk=3D"$arg" -> |=20 +> | +> | chunk="$arg" +> | > | or even better :-) ->=20 +> > the trouble with this is that is does not work -- I spent a > considerable amount of time on this quote micmac. :-( @@ -64453,22 +41430,22 @@ Does not work is too vague. Why does it fail? What is the result value of $chunk? ->=20 -> |=20 -> | chunk=3D`echo -n "$arg"` ->=20 +> +> | +> | chunk=`echo -n "$arg"` +> > this one is one needed. > That is not what you wrote originally in your patchlet. -=20 -> |=20 + +> | > | But I think "quotes" are only needed on argments to external > | commands like 'test', not on variable assignments or echo. ->=20 -> Well, my shell (Zsh) is unhappy with the form chunk=3D"$arg", when +> +> Well, my shell (Zsh) is unhappy with the form chunk="$arg", when > chunk is used later with -R. ->=20 +> That's very odd. $chunk is just a variable. To use it with -R as a parameter to notangle I would recommend the following quotes: @@ -64481,7 +41458,7 @@ All of these forms behave identically in my tests using bash provided that all parameters to external commands are properly quoted. -Perhaps "3.1: Why does `$var' where `var=3D"foo bar"' not do what +Perhaps "3.1: Why does `$var' where `var="foo bar"' not do what I expect?" in http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/zsh @@ -64492,43 +41469,11 @@ I fear you are heading for "quote hell" if you do not have the exact semantics of the shell for which you are designing the scripts. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwyW-0005fp-FZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:37:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwyU-0005bw-MG - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:37:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmwyT-0005Ya-9e - for list; 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Yes. | exact semantics of the shell for which you are designing the | scripts. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxAD-0006yi-BA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:49:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxAB-0006ww-6R - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:49:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxA9-0006vW-A4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:49:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmxA8-0006ul-Kf - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:49:36 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmxA8-0008DZ-Jk - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:49:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F2D4F3D2; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:49:24 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMIiB1b027589; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:44:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMIiBgG027588; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:44:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:44:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - <45648345.5010306@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611221735.kAMHZsW21120@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611221815.kAMIF4l21187@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:44:11 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | The name ENV predates POSIX. | > @@ -64788,46 +41634,13 @@ Not just because it was created 20 years ago means that its usage is correct today. The world did not stop spining while Axiom was hibernating. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxG3-0005ML-PF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:55:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxG0-0005HE-Aw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:55:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxFz-0005GP-Nv - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:55:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmxFz-0005GC-Ky - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:55:39 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmxFz-0001VL-5T - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:55:39 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDF04F3DE; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:55:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMIoDFs027929; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:50:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMIoD0w027928; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:50:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:50:13 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 19:50:13 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > No, again you're making the assumption that ENV does not mean anything | > particular. ENV means something very precise is POSIXilly correct @@ -64863,44 +41676,11 @@ Oh, let's talk about that hack another day -- I have enough for today. You have completely missed the point. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxNf-0000N9-Pb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:03:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxNb-0000Gd-H5 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:03:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmxNX-0000AY-OO - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:03:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmxNW-000081-HT - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GmxNU-00033L-W1 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:03:25 -0500 -Received: (qmail 31103 invoked by uid 7797); 22 Nov 2006 19:00:18 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.049024 secs); 22 Nov 2006 19:00:18 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 22 Nov 2006 19:00:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:03:24 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: ENV - -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Nobody claims that is illegal. We are talking of a *specific variable* @@ -64916,37 +41696,11 @@ expanded value as the name of a file to read and execute." So I can imagine a call to "$ENV sh something" in a makefile to explode. What actually happened? --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxb0-0000Cf-Tm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:17:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxaz-00008i-5w - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:17:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxax-00004x-Gp - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:17:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmxax-0008W5-2d - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:17:19 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmxaw-0006cU-Td - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:17:19 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmxWc-0002eU-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:12:50 +0100 -Subject: Re: ENV -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:12:50 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: ENV Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -64970,50 +41724,13 @@ name. I am not sure if MAKEFLAGS is really good for us. AFAIU make assigns magic semantic to this name, which is different that current ENV use. Personally I would change ENV to something like ENV_TO_PASS. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxop-0000m0-JU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:31:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxon-0000jS-KE - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:31:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxol-0000ht-OB - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:31:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmxol-0000hR-DN - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:31:35 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmxok-0001Ta-UA - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:31:35 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4E2410DF; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:31:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMJQ9cS029988; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:26:11 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMJQ9sc029987; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:26:09 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 22 Nov 2006 20:26:09 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: ENV -Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > Nobody claims that is illegal. We are talking of a *specific variable* @@ -65062,42 +41779,11 @@ that doing is still wrong (it is only a matter of time to trip over it) because the shell will see that the variable is defined and attempt to use its value as indicating a file to read and execute. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxwh-0007rT-I8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:39:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxwf-0007pL-Vt - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:39:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmxwe-0007nO-36 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:39:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmxwe-0007nJ-0J - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:39:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmxwd-0003Dg-Vy - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:39:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE092415A2; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:39:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMJYIJv030559; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:34:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMJYI30030558; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:34:18 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 20:34:18 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: ENV -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 20:34:18 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -65138,46 +41824,13 @@ MAKEFLAGS variable. This does not work if you put the variable definition before make. But, that is not too recommended anyway (however old it is). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmy2G-0003l7-LC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:45:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmy2F-0003iV-03 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:45:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmy2E-0003hk-70 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:45:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmy2E-0003ha-3S - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:45:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmy2E-0004YV-4D - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:45:30 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381A94F3C2; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:45:17 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMJe4pq030946; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:40:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMJe4tq030945; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:40:04 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 20:40:04 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice - - <200611221833.kAMIXKo21210@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 20:40:04 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > No, that is untrue if you say "make -jN", aka parallel build, which | > build-improvements must support. @@ -65208,47 +41861,11 @@ layers level. fast algebra is not a substitute for fast builds. Meaning, we could and should have both. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmy6m-000628-AG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:50:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmy6k-00060h-Vh - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:50:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmy6k-0005zo-10 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:50:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmy6j-0005zU-Pi - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:50:09 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmy6j-0005Yb-PD - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:50:09 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E32C415AD; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:50:07 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMJiiX7030950; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:44:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMJiin3030949; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:44:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 20:44:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice - - <200611221833.kAMIXKo21210@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 20:44:44 +0100 -Cc: list - -root Tim Daly writes: - [...] @@ -65280,33 +41897,11 @@ You can chose the trade you want. I want fast alegbra *and* fast build. Fast build means I can try and iterate patches and ideas several times in a day. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmyed-000106-Or - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:25:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmyea-0000xf-K9 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:25:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmyeV-0000tH-V4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:25:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmyeV-0000tA-LV - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:25:03 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmyeU-0004Aj-W2 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:25:03 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmyaA-0007aw-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:20:34 +0100 -Subject: Re: ENV -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:20:34 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: ENV Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > But frankly, who is afraid of MAKEFLAGS? MAKEFLAGS does not just @@ -65327,70 +41922,37 @@ envioronment only when there is no explicit assignment. Of course, if you put `echo $(MAKEFLAGS)' before each recursive make invocation the second problem would go away. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmykn-0005jr-9F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmykk-0005hb-Ee - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmykj-0005gc-Gl - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmykj-0005gP-7T - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:29 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmyki-0005Rb-Pa - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 303286C8DE; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:28 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C42256C836; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:21 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:31:18 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Testing build-improvements -Thread-Index: AccOZUvee9Fke6B7TA6ssnAFn1xqfAABEHyA From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:32 PM Gaby wrote: > | On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:50 PM Gaby wrote: -> |=20 -> | > | > ! chunk=3D$arg ->=20 +> | +> | > | > ! chunk=$arg +> > Bill Page wrote: ->=20 +> > | Why does this fail? What is the value of $chunk? ->=20 +> > Most of your questions can be asnwered as follows: > Uncomment the "set -x" and "set +x" instructions from the > document script and run the script for the files TESTFR.input, -> INTHEORY.input and VIEW2D.input.=20 ->=20 +> INTHEORY.input and VIEW2D.input. +> > ${INPUT}/TESTFR.input: $(srcdir)/fr.spad.pamphlet -> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D'TEST FR' --output=3D$@ = +> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle='TEST FR' --output=$@ = $< ->=20 +> > ${INPUT}/INTHEORY.input: $(srcdir)/numtheor.spad.pamphlet -> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D'TEST INTHEORY'=20 -> --output=3D$@ $< ->=20 +> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle='TEST INTHEORY' +> --output=$@ $< +> > ${INPUT}/VIEW2D.input: $(srcdir)/view2D.spad.pamphlet -> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D'TEST VIEW2D'=20 -> --output=3D$@ $< +> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle='TEST VIEW2D' +> --output=$@ $< > Unfortunately what wasted a lot of time and did not tell me @@ -65405,7 +41967,7 @@ parameters in the document script. Perhaps that is what is causing your "quote micmac" with zsh. This sort of awkward and obscure construction is not necessary: - chunk=3D`echo -n $arg` + chunk=`echo -n $arg` I included a patch for document below. The corrected version of the document script generates the same output as but it is more @@ -65414,42 +41976,42 @@ file names that include spaces (e.g. on Windows). Attachment: -[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle=3D'TEST VIEW2D' - --output=3Dtest +[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle='TEST VIEW2D' + --output=test ~/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphlet -+ latex=3Dlatex -+ index=3D@MAKINDEX@ -+ tangle=3D/usr/local/bin/notangle -+ weave=3D/usr/local/bin/noweave ++ latex=latex ++ index=@MAKINDEX@ ++ tangle=/usr/local/bin/notangle ++ weave=/usr/local/bin/noweave + = -TEXINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +TEXINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export TEXINPUTS + = -BIBINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +BIBINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export BIBINPUTS -+ do_index=3D -+ do_latex=3D -+ do_tangle=3D -+ do_weave=3D -+ chunk=3D -+ file=3D -+ output=3D ++ do_index= ++ do_latex= ++ do_tangle= ++ do_weave= ++ chunk= ++ file= ++ output= + : -+ do_tangle=3Dyes -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST VIEW2D -++ awk -F=3D '{ print $2; }' -+ chunk=3DTEST VIEW2D ++ do_tangle=yes +++ echo --tangle=TEST VIEW2D +++ awk -F= '{ print $2; }' ++ chunk=TEST VIEW2D + shift + : -++ echo --output=3Dtest3 -++ awk -F=3D '{ print $2; }' -+ output=3Dtest3 +++ echo --output=test3 +++ awk -F= '{ print $2; }' ++ output=test3 + shift + : + break -+ test xyes =3D xyes ++ test xyes = xyes + -file=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphl= +file=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphl= e t + '[' -z test3 ']' @@ -65458,42 +42020,42 @@ t /home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphlet + exit 0 [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ rm test3 -[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle=3D'TEST VIEW2D' ---output=3Dtest +[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle='TEST VIEW2D' +--output=test 3 ~/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphlet -+ latex=3Dlatex -+ index=3D@MAKINDEX@ -+ tangle=3D/usr/local/bin/notangle -+ weave=3D/usr/local/bin/noweave ++ latex=latex ++ index=@MAKINDEX@ ++ tangle=/usr/local/bin/notangle ++ weave=/usr/local/bin/noweave + = -TEXINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +TEXINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export TEXINPUTS + = -BIBINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +BIBINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export BIBINPUTS -+ do_index=3D -+ do_latex=3D -+ do_tangle=3D -+ do_weave=3D -+ chunk=3D -+ file=3D -+ output=3D ++ do_index= ++ do_latex= ++ do_tangle= ++ do_weave= ++ chunk= ++ file= ++ output= + : -+ do_tangle=3Dyes -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST VIEW2D -++ awk -F=3D '{ print $2; }' -+ chunk=3DTEST VIEW2D ++ do_tangle=yes +++ echo --tangle=TEST VIEW2D +++ awk -F= '{ print $2; }' ++ chunk=TEST VIEW2D + shift + : -++ echo --output=3Dtest3 -++ awk -F=3D '{ print $2; }' -+ output=3Dtest3 +++ echo --output=test3 +++ awk -F= '{ print $2; }' ++ output=test3 + shift + : + break -+ test xyes =3D xyes ++ test xyes = xyes + -file=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphl= +file=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphl= e t + '[' -z test3 ']' @@ -65503,22 +42065,22 @@ t + exit 0 [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ cat test3 )clear all -a:=3D0.5 -b:=3D0.5 -y1:=3Ddraw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=3D-1..1,title=3D=3D"2.2.10 explicit") -g1:=3DgetGraph(y1,1) +a:=0.5 +b:=0.5 +y1:=draw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=-1..1,title=="2.2.10 explicit") +g1:=getGraph(y1,1) pointLists g1 -b:=3D1.0 -y2:=3Ddraw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=3D-1..1) -g2:=3DgetGraph(y2,1) +b:=1.0 +y2:=draw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=-1..1) +g2:=getGraph(y2,1) pointLists g2 putGraph(y1,g2,2) -b:=3D2.0 -y3:=3Ddraw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=3D-1..1) -g3:=3DgetGraph(y3,1) +b:=2.0 +y3:=draw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=-1..1) +g3:=getGraph(y3,1) pointLists g3 putGraph(y1,g3,3) -vp:=3DmakeViewport2D(y1) +vp:=makeViewport2D(y1) [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ -------- @@ -65535,14 +42097,14 @@ The substitution must be made inside the quoted parameter. Also the notation - if test x$do_tangle =3D xyes; then + if test x$do_tangle = xyes; then is old and silly. This looks better and works the same. - if test "$do_tangle" =3D "yes"; then + if test "$do_tangle" = "yes"; then -[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle=3D'TEST VIEW2D' ---output=3Dtest +[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle='TEST VIEW2D' +--output=test 3 ~/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphlet [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ diff -au document_old document_new --- document_old 2006-11-22 13:18:11.000000000 -0600 @@ -65551,11 +42113,11 @@ is old and silly. This looks better and works the same. esac done --if test x$do_tangle =3D xyes; then -+if test "$do_tangle" =3D "yes"; then +-if test x$do_tangle = xyes; then ++if test "$do_tangle" = "yes"; then # FIXME: Check that the input file name does indeed have # a pamphlet extension. - file=3D$1 + file=$1 @@ -89,32 +89,32 @@ # Alternatively, we could initialize chunk to '*' and # unconditionally use -R"$chunk". @@ -65571,27 +42133,27 @@ is old and silly. This looks better and works the same. fi --if test x$do_weave =3D xyes; then -+if test "$do_weave" =3D "yes"; then - file=3D`basename $1 .pamphlet` +-if test x$do_weave = xyes; then ++if test "$do_weave" = "yes"; then + file=`basename $1 .pamphlet` - $weave -delay $1 > $file.tex -- if test x$do_latex !=3D xyes; then +- if test x$do_latex != xyes; then + $weave -delay "$1" > "$file.tex" -+ if test "$do_latex" !=3D "yes"; then ++ if test "$do_latex" != "yes"; then exit 0; fi fi --if test x$do_latex =3D xyes; then -+if test "$do_latex" =3D "yes"; then +-if test x$do_latex = xyes; then ++if test "$do_latex" = "yes"; then if [ -z $file ]; then - file=3D`basename $1 .tex` + file=`basename $1 .tex` fi - $latex --interaction nonstopmode $file; -- if [ x$do_index =3D xyes ]; then +- if [ x$do_index = xyes ]; then - $makeindex $file.idx + $latex --interaction nonstopmode "$file"; -+ if [ "$do_index" =3D "yes" ]; then ++ if [ "$do_index" = "yes" ]; then + $makeindex "$file.idx" fi - $latex --interaction nonstopmode $file; @@ -65600,9 +42162,9 @@ is old and silly. This looks better and works the same. fi @@ -122,30 +122,30 @@ - if [ "$#" =3D "3" ]; then - REDIRECT=3D$2 - FILE=3D`basename $3 .pamphlet` + if [ "$#" = "3" ]; then + REDIRECT=$2 + FILE=`basename $3 .pamphlet` - $tangle -t8 $FILE.pamphlet >$FILE - $weave -delay $FILE.pamphlet >$FILE.tex - $latex --interaction nonstopmode $FILE.tex >$REDIRECT @@ -65625,8 +42187,8 @@ is old and silly. This looks better and works the same. + rm -f "$FILE.aux" exit 0 fi - if [ "$#" =3D "1" ]; then - FILE=3D`basename $1 .pamphlet` + if [ "$#" = "1" ]; then + FILE=`basename $1 .pamphlet` - $tangle -t8 $FILE.pamphlet >$FILE - $weave -delay $FILE.pamphlet >$FILE.tex - $latex $FILE.tex @@ -65653,37 +42215,11 @@ is old and silly. This looks better and works the same. [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmyuZ-00057A-1T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:41:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmyuX-00056d-Ip - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:41:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmyuV-000565-PL - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:41:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmyuV-000560-FG - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:41:35 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GmyuV-0007ms-Ao - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:41:35 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAMKfBHn007744 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:41:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:40:43 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: ENV - -Cc: list > regress: > ${ENV} ${MAKE} DAASE=$(axiom_targetdir) regression-tests @@ -65700,33 +42236,11 @@ is already set at the beginning. (Replace ENV by any other variable name if you don't like ENV.) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmyve-0005SB-Gj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:42:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmyvc-0005Ri-FD - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:42:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmyvZ-0005QT-Vb - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:42:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmyvZ-0005QQ-Qk - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:42:41 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmyvZ-0007zN-Nw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:42:41 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmytZ-0000Ru-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:40:37 +0100 -Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:40:37 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > This patchlet works for me. Could you test it? @@ -65766,44 +42280,11 @@ and it works (the problem was on test line). Zsh manual claims that word splitting is not done on assignment (and I think same is true for bash). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzOq-0003y0-Ak - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzOo-0003wt-Ac - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzOn-0003wg-Mc - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmzOn-0003wT-Fb - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:53 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmzOn-0004sW-5z - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:12:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB664146D; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:12:50 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAML7RVE032591; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:07:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAML7R51032590; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:07:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:07:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:07:27 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -65936,42 +42417,11 @@ shells and inputs. If there are risks, use `test "xSTRING" = x' or `test "xSTRING" != x' instead. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzQJ-0004a5-74 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:14:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzQH-0004ZL-D6 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:14:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzQG-0004Yd-O5 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:14:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmzQG-0004YW-GO - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:14:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmzQG-0005Di-BQ - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:14:24 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFA441177; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:14:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAML8xFa032595; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:09:01 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAML8xUj032594; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:08:59 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:08:58 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: ENV -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:08:58 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -65993,48 +42443,11 @@ Fairly, I would say. yes, and in the most common cases, that is what you want. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzYA-0001yv-Py - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:22:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzY9-0001y1-Bw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:22:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzY7-0001wq-PH - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:22:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmzY7-0001we-Gd - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:22:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmzY7-0007KX-Ao - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:22:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA234F3CC; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:22:17 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMLH6oh032708; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:17:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMLH6tL032707; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:17:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:17:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4564B5CB.6080007@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:17:06 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -66063,33 +42476,11 @@ you insist on using ENV. There must be a profond misunderstanding here :-( --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmzdw-0006G7-OV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmzdu-0006E0-Ou - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmzdr-0006Az-C8 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmzdq-0006AT-QW - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmzdq-0000DU-NB - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GmzcX-0003GS-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:27:05 +0100 -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:27:05 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -66136,50 +42527,17 @@ avoid starting two makes (in paralel) in src subdirectory -- make logic will not prevent this. So, I think that to trurly support paralel builds you need a single Makefile. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzrF-0001gm-R5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzrD-0001f4-9m - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gmzr8-0001cE-T4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gmzr8-0001bz-KD - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gmzr1-0002V0-7a - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:09 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9388A64FEC; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 486F364F5B; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:01 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:42:01 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Testing build-improvements -Thread-Index: AccOevwyOoWy3cCMShOQ2VQhAK3oXQAAVgDg From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:07 PM Gaby wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > | But I noticed that you have many incorrectly quoted or unquoted > | parameters in the document script. ->=20 +> > Please define more precisely what you mean by incorrectly quoted > and unquoted. @@ -66191,30 +42549,30 @@ program. I guess that's good enough for this purpose. :-) ->=20 +> > is more readable when written as: ->=20 +> > case $given_srcdir in -> .) top_srcdir=3D`echo "$dots" | sed 's,/$,,'` -> *) top_srcdir=3D$dots$given_srcdir ;; +> .) top_srcdir=`echo "$dots" | sed 's,/$,,'` +> *) top_srcdir=$dots$given_srcdir ;; > esac ->=20 -> and in fact it is even _more_ portable: in the first case=20 +> +> and in fact it is even _more_ portable: in the first case > of the first attempt, ... I agree. I did not suggest any changes of this kind. ->=20 +> > | This sort of awkward and obscure > | construction is not necessary: -> |=20 -> | chunk=3D`echo -n $arg` -> |=20 +> | +> | chunk=`echo -n $arg` +> | As I said and as is consistent with your quote, the above is not necessary. See the case *) above. -> ...=20 +> ... > I believe you're testing a different document script from the > one we are discussing. @@ -66222,34 +42580,34 @@ Damn. I just can't keep up the pace. :-( But I kind of suspected this because I was looking for the new: - document --tag=3Dboot --mode=3Dtranslate bootsys foo.boot + document --tag=boot --mode=translate bootsys foo.boot option and didn't find it. -> |=20 +> | > | $tangle "-R$chunk" -> |=20 +> | > | The substitution must be made inside the quoted parameter. > | I still think the above way of writing the -R parameter is imporant. -=20 + > | Also the notation -> |=20 -> | if test x$do_tangle =3D xyes; then -> |=20 +> | +> | if test x$do_tangle = xyes; then +> | > | is old and silly. This looks better and works the same. -> |=20 -> | if test "$do_tangle" =3D "yes"; then ->=20 +> | +> | if test "$do_tangle" = "yes"; then +> > However silly it appears to you (and me) I disagree with your > removal of x. The above has been coded on purpose to be > resilient to funky shells and inputs. ->=20 -> ...=20 -> If there are risks, use `test "xSTRING" =3D x' or `test=20 -> "xSTRING" !=3D x' instead. ->=20 +> +> ... +> If there are risks, use `test "xSTRING" = x' or `test +> "xSTRING" != x' instead. +> There is absolutely no risk in the above test. We control the value of $do_tangle. Anyway this is just a silly style issue. @@ -66257,43 +42615,11 @@ value of $do_tangle. Anyway this is just a silly style issue. On to more important things... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzwL-0004vW-Ig - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:47:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzwJ-0004uQ-JP - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:47:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GmzwI-0004tl-Vl - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:47:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmzwI-0004tf-M7 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:47:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GmzUL-0006Qa-Ds - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:18:37 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2753041090; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:18:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMLDCxv032685; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:13:14 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMLDCXi032684; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:13:12 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:13:12 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Testing build-improvements -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 22:13:12 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -66350,42 +42676,11 @@ That behaviour is controlled by options, so the simpler asssignment which should work is brittle. You can remove the echo, but PLEASE don't quote $arg in the assinment. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn02L-0001cR-N5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:53:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn02J-0001an-Fs - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:53:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn02H-0001YC-VI - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:53:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn02H-0001Y0-Jb - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:53:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn02H-000613-94 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:53:41 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FD34116E; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:53:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMLmFEj000985; 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I'm just curious). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0GT-0005M9-Dt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:08:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0GR-0005Lz-RD - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:08:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0GO-0005Kt-3u - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:08:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn0GN-0005Kp-Vc - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:08:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn0GM-0005tn-Sw - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:08:15 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMM7w88001268 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:08:02 -0500 -Received: (qmail 18034 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 22:07:58 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 22 Nov 2006 22:07:58 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMLvXp21379; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:57:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:57:33 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 19:44:11 +0100) Subject: Re: ENV - <45648345.5010306@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611221735.kAMHZsW21120@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611221815.kAMIF4l21187@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | ok. s/ENV/GABY/ everywhere. > @@ -66585,45 +42812,11 @@ but it appears that this is not true with MAKEFLAGS http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2004-June/007479.html -t - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0K5-0007C1-3R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:12:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0K3-00079N-DT - for list; 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22 Nov 2006 22:14:25 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMM41j21400; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:04:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:04:01 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Zuazaga on Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:03:24 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: ENV - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list > It may help to state the *specific meaning* of ENV in POSIX shells. I > looked at the man page for bash and it says: @@ -66767,48 +42930,11 @@ context can be overloaded. I can't imagine why this is even a point of discussion. There should be NO confusion between a variable in a makefile and a variable in a shell. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0UX-0008Q1-UV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:22:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0UV-0008Lh-LI - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:22:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0UV-0008JQ-2G - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:22:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn0UU-0008JD-K5 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:22:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn0UU-00012b-IS - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:22:50 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMMMmO9011234 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:22:48 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12177 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 22:22:48 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 22 Nov 2006 22:22:48 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMMCOo21404; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:12:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:12:24 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 20:26:09 +0100) Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - -Cc: list > There is this line in the Makefile for regression testing: > @@ -66844,51 +42970,11 @@ meaning? Can you claim that whatever name you choose (e.g. SRC, INT, BUILD, CVS_RSH, etc) will never be assigned a future meaning and is therefore safe to use? -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0rj-0005gH-2d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:46:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0rh-0005ee-UG - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:46:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0rg-0005c1-J4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:46:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn0rf-0005bl-Vn - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:46:48 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn0rb-00027x-UO - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:46:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMMkfJJ029141 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:46:41 -0500 -Received: (qmail 27310 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 22:46:41 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Ralf Hemmecke; 22 Nov 2006 22:46:41 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMMaHo21415; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:36:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:36:17 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 22:17:06 +0100) Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4564B5CB.6080007@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list | > regress: | > ${ENV} ${MAKE} DAASE=$(axiom_targetdir) regression-tests @@ -66911,9 +42997,6 @@ INT=/axiom/int ENV = SRC=${SRC} INT=${INT} - - - then the first expression expands to: SRC=/axiom/src INT=/axiom/int ${MAKE} DAASE=$(axiom_targetdir) regression-tests @@ -66923,9 +43006,6 @@ which means that in the newly executing Makefile the variable values of SRC and INT will NOT be overridden if they are set in the new Makfile DAASE will be overridden if the are set in the new Makefile - - - and the second expression expands to: ${MAKE} SRC=/axiom/src INT=/axiom/int DAASE=$(axiom_targetdir) regression-tests @@ -66935,8 +43015,6 @@ which means that in the newly executing Makefile the variable values of SRC and INT WILL be overridden if they are set in the new Makfile DAASE WILL be overridden if the are set in the new Makefile - - so the issue is one of overriding the value assignments in the new Makefile. prefix form sets the environment values but the new Makefile assignments @@ -66945,65 +43023,18 @@ will be used if they are set. postfix form sets the environment values but overrides the new Makefile assignments if they are set. - - - This is used in axiom now. In the top level Makefile we have a variable called NOISE. If we want to override that variable we simply type: make NOISE= -t - - - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0wI-0003gY-Ao - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:51:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0wG-0003f9-Lj - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:51:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0wF-0003eT-UC - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:51:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn0wF-0003eK-Jz - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:51:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn0wF-0003A1-KH - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:51:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9145410B7; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:51:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMMk5MU002465; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:46:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMMk5o4002464; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:46:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 23:46:05 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - <45648345.5010306@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611221735.kAMHZsW21120@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611221815.kAMIF4l21187@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611222157.kAMLvXp21379@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 23:46:05 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -67053,49 +43084,13 @@ down in MAKEFLAGS. I don't see this issue affecting build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0zO-000776-O8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:54:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0zM-00073Z-CE - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:54:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn0zK-00070G-Np - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:54:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn0zK-0006zu-HE - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:54:42 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn0zK-00041Z-EW - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:54:42 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB3E40F3D; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:54:39 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMMnG2g002469; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:49:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMMnGKl002468; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:49:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 23:49:16 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611222204.kAMM41j21400@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 23:49:16 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > It may help to state the *specific meaning* of ENV in POSIX shells. I | > looked at the man page for bash and it says: @@ -67128,50 +43123,13 @@ confusion between the two expansion happen. I did not send out the message out of theory. Get serious, man. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn11G-0001Lq-6L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:56:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn11D-0001Jl-QB - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:56:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn11C-0001IT-P2 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:56:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn11C-0001Hu-Ep - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:56:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn11C-0004Ty-Hf - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:56:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEDE40F09; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:56:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMMpD7K002489; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:51:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMMpCFW002488; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:51:12 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 22 Nov 2006 23:51:12 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <200611222212.kAMMCOo21404@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 22 Nov 2006 23:51:12 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > There is this line in the Makefile for regression testing: | > @@ -67197,66 +43155,35 @@ root Tim Daly writes: The old broken makefiles were designed that way. Yes. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn163-0004fu-GJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn161-0004cm-4S - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn15w-0004X7-4F - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn15v-0004Ws-M2 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:31 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn15v-0005N9-5U - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3A1DF65FEA; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:30 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0B97365FE4; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:29 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:28 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Testing build-improvements -Thread-Index: AccOgcuUUND4Mub6TnyEvipOFqItgQABa/rQ From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:56 PM Gaby wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page writes: > | Damn. I just can't keep up the pace. :-( ->=20 +> > hey, it is Thanksgiving soon :-) > Done that already. (I'm in Canada, eh?) Gotta work this weekend. Have fun with the family when you still can! -=20 -> ...=20 + +> ... > I'm interested in the difference between ->=20 +> > $tangle -R"$chunk" ->=20 -> and=20 ->=20 +> +> and +> > $tangle -"R$chunk" ->=20 +> > (for true, I don't know the portability issue here; I'm just > curious). ->=20 +> That should be: @@ -67267,44 +43194,11 @@ and ksh) there seems to be no difference in behaviour. And I assume also in zsh. So apparently it is just an issue of style or folklore. Write that one off... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Aa-00013w-5l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:06:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn15R-00045v-2I - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn15M-00042K-K9 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:01:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn15M-00041y-Ac - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:00:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn15J-0005FH-Hb - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:00:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8593D4F3D3 - for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:00:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMMtKsZ002768 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:55:22 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMMtKhr002767; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:55:20 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -Subject: Re: [build-improvements] Remove K&R cruft from - src/lib -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 22 Nov 2006 23:55:19 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list +Subject: Re: [build-improvements] Remove K&R cruft from src/lib Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -74396,47 +50290,12 @@ For src/hyper. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Dn-0005F0-Sj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:09:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Dm-0005En-TM - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:09:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Dl-0005Ea-Dz - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:09:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn1Dl-0005EX-AN - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:09:37 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn1Dl-00071P-2J - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:09:37 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74DD4117E; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:09:34 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMN4BRd002985; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:04:14 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMN4BfP002984; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:04:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 23 Nov 2006 00:04:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4564B5CB.6080007@hemmecke.de> - - <200611222236.kAMMaHo21415@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 23 Nov 2006 00:04:11 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -74450,50 +50309,11 @@ anything prefix. Ah, if you don't want bugs, don't create opportunity for bugs in the first place. Used to say a friend. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Gv-0006YG-M4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:12:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Gu-0006Ww-D1 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:12:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Gs-0006Vs-LX - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:12:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn1Gs-0006Vh-Dq - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:12:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn1Gs-0007MT-91 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:12:50 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAMNChww015190 - for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:12:43 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24782 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 23:12:43 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 22 Nov 2006 23:12:43 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAMN2Jd21455; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:02:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:02:19 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 22 Nov 2006 23:51:12 +0100) Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <200611222212.kAMMCOo21404@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | An excellent point. Except that none of the makefiles in the axiom > | tree are designed to be executed "standalone". @@ -74509,54 +50329,13 @@ but do not define it in the new standalone Makefile. And this is the fault of "the old broken makefiles"? -Sigh. - -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Y6-0006VB-Kq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:30:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Y5-0006T0-3n - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:30:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1Y3-0006Pt-JY - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:30:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn1Y3-0006Pd-EI - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:30:35 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn1Y3-0001Za-96 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:30:35 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FE14F3A4; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:30:20 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMNP9AA003350; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:25:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMNP9XN003349; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:25:09 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 23 Nov 2006 00:25:09 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: ENV - - <200611221813.kAMID7u21181@localhost.localdomain> - - <45649EFC.2010207@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <200611222212.kAMMCOo21404@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611222302.kAMN2Jd21455@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 23 Nov 2006 00:25:09 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | An excellent point. Except that none of the makefiles in the axiom | > | tree are designed to be executed "standalone". @@ -74578,44 +50357,12 @@ I don't know whether it is their fault, but since they are already broken, they just show another aspect of their brokenness. I don't know whether an attribute can be credited as a fault. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1e9-0001rE-0M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:36:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1e7-0001qp-LW - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:36:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn1e6-0001pG-5n - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:36:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn1e6-0001p6-1P - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:36:50 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn1e6-0002vD-0n - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:36:50 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682F940F56 - for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:36:47 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAMNVO24003374 - for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:31:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAMNVOon003373; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:31:24 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 23 Nov 2006 00:31:24 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: src/boot/boot-proclaims.lisp - Directory src/boot defines its symbols in package boottran. Why is it that the proclaim files says: @@ -74629,32 +50376,10 @@ Then swicthes to package boot before writin out the proclaims? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2VT-0008Ts-1m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:31:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2VR-0008TD-H4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:31:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2VP-0008Se-Sv - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:31:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn2VP-0008Sb-R4 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:31:55 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn2VP-0002lI-Nm - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:31:55 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gn2UB-0006iT-00 - for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:30:39 +0100 -To: list Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:30:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: sman and X libraries in version 288 I see: @@ -74680,46 +50405,13 @@ In recent build 'ldd sman' gives me: so now sman will refuse to run on a machine without X libraries. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2h8-0005ks-G5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:44:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2h7-0005k8-AN - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:44:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2h5-0005jm-Lu - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:44:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn2h5-0005ji-Ik - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:43:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn2h5-00049z-90 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:43:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 46E91677CC; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:43:58 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 947836783F; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:43:55 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements +\start Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:43:54 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Testing build-improvements -Thread-Index: AccOZUvee9Fke6B7TA6ssnAFn1xqfAABEHyAAArUM6A= From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Testing build-improvements -Gaby,=20 +Gaby, I updated by build-improvements testing repository on and rebuilt Axiom with no errors. (GCL compiled separately with maxpage option). @@ -74732,7 +50424,7 @@ compiler script: [page@axiom-developer axiom.test]$ cd src/interp -[page@axiom-developer interp]$ document --tag=3Dboot --mode=3Dtranslate +[page@axiom-developer interp]$ document --tag=boot --mode=translate bootsys msg.boot GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Nov 15 2006 13:37:33 @@ -74755,37 +50447,37 @@ Regards, Bill Page. On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:31 PM I wrote: ->=20 +> > On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:32 PM Gaby wrote: > > | On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:50 PM Gaby wrote: -> > |=20 -> > | > | > ! chunk=3D$arg -> >=20 +> > | +> > | > | > ! chunk=$arg +> > > > Bill Page wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > | Why does this fail? What is the value of $chunk? -> >=20 +> > > > Most of your questions can be asnwered as follows: > > Uncomment the "set -x" and "set +x" instructions from the > > document script and run the script for the files TESTFR.input, -> > INTHEORY.input and VIEW2D.input.=20 -> >=20 +> > INTHEORY.input and VIEW2D.input. +> > > > ${INPUT}/TESTFR.input: $(srcdir)/fr.spad.pamphlet -> > $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D'TEST FR' = ---output=3D$@ $< -> >=20 +> > $(axiom_build_document) --tangle='TEST FR' = +--output=$@ $< +> > > > ${INPUT}/INTHEORY.input: $(srcdir)/numtheor.spad.pamphlet -> > $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D'TEST INTHEORY'=20 -> > --output=3D$@ $< -> >=20 +> > $(axiom_build_document) --tangle='TEST INTHEORY' +> > --output=$@ $< +> > > > ${INPUT}/VIEW2D.input: $(srcdir)/view2D.spad.pamphlet -> > $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D'TEST VIEW2D'=20 -> > --output=3D$@ $< +> > $(axiom_build_document) --tangle='TEST VIEW2D' +> > --output=$@ $< > > ->=20 +> > Unfortunately what wasted a lot of time and did not tell me > anything. :-( ->=20 +> > All of these commands executed properly on the axiom-developer.org > server without changes to document - probably because of the default > behaviour of bash. See the output attached below. @@ -74793,62 +50485,62 @@ On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:31 PM I wrote: Test repeated with build-improvements Revision: 301 Last Changed Date: 2006-11-22 12:22:44 -0600 (Wed, 22 Nov 2006) -=20 -[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle=3D'TEST FR' ---output=3Dtest1 ${srcdir}/ + +[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle='TEST FR' +--output=test1 ${srcdir}/ fr.spad.pamphlet -+ latex=3Dlatex -+ index=3D@MAKINDEX@ -+ tangle=3D/usr/local/bin/notangle -+ weave=3D/usr/local/bin/noweave ++ latex=latex ++ index=@MAKINDEX@ ++ tangle=/usr/local/bin/notangle ++ weave=/usr/local/bin/noweave + = -TEXINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +TEXINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export TEXINPUTS + = -BIBINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +BIBINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export BIBINPUTS -+ do_index=3D -+ do_latex=3D -+ do_tangle=3D -+ do_weave=3D -+ chunk=3D -+ file=3D -+ output=3D -+ tag=3D -+ mode=3D ++ do_index= ++ do_latex= ++ do_tangle= ++ do_weave= ++ chunk= ++ file= ++ output= ++ tag= ++ mode= + test 3 -gt 0 -+ optval=3D--tangle=3DTEST FR -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST FR -++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=3D//' -+ arg=3DTEST FR -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST FR -++ sed -e 's/=3D.*$//' -+ opt=3D--tangle ++ optval=--tangle=TEST FR +++ echo --tangle=TEST FR +++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=//' ++ arg=TEST FR +++ echo --tangle=TEST FR +++ sed -e 's/=.*$//' ++ opt=--tangle + shift -+ do_tangle=3Dyes ++ do_tangle=yes + test -n 'TEST FR' ++ echo -n TEST FR -+ chunk=3DTEST FR ++ chunk=TEST FR + test 2 -gt 0 -+ optval=3D--output=3Dtest1 -++ echo --output=3Dtest1 -++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=3D//' -+ arg=3Dtest1 -++ echo --output=3Dtest1 -++ sed -e 's/=3D.*$//' -+ opt=3D--output ++ optval=--output=test1 +++ echo --output=test1 +++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=//' ++ arg=test1 +++ echo --output=test1 +++ sed -e 's/=.*$//' ++ opt=--output + shift + maybe_missing_value_for --output test1 + test -z test1 -+ output=3Dtest1 ++ output=test1 + test 1 -gt 0 + -optval=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/fr.spad.pamphlet= +optval=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/fr.spad.pamphlet= + break -+ test xyes =3D xyes ++ test xyes = xyes + = -file=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/fr.spad.pamphlet +file=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/fr.spad.pamphlet + '[' -z test1 ']' + '[' -z 'TEST FR' ']' + /usr/local/bin/notangle '-RTEST FR' @@ -74858,62 +50550,62 @@ file=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/fr.spad.pamphlet D(factor (-x), x) [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ -[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle=3D'TEST INTHEORY' ---output=3Dtest2 ${sr +[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle='TEST INTHEORY' +--output=test2 ${sr cdir}/numtheor.spad.pamphlet -+ latex=3Dlatex -+ index=3D@MAKINDEX@ -+ tangle=3D/usr/local/bin/notangle -+ weave=3D/usr/local/bin/noweave ++ latex=latex ++ index=@MAKINDEX@ ++ tangle=/usr/local/bin/notangle ++ weave=/usr/local/bin/noweave + = -TEXINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +TEXINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export TEXINPUTS + = -BIBINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +BIBINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export BIBINPUTS -+ do_index=3D -+ do_latex=3D -+ do_tangle=3D -+ do_weave=3D -+ chunk=3D -+ file=3D -+ output=3D -+ tag=3D -+ mode=3D ++ do_index= ++ do_latex= ++ do_tangle= ++ do_weave= ++ chunk= ++ file= ++ output= ++ tag= ++ mode= + test 3 -gt 0 -+ optval=3D--tangle=3DTEST INTHEORY -++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=3D//' -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST INTHEORY -+ arg=3DTEST INTHEORY -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST INTHEORY -++ sed -e 's/=3D.*$//' -+ opt=3D--tangle ++ optval=--tangle=TEST INTHEORY +++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=//' +++ echo --tangle=TEST INTHEORY ++ arg=TEST INTHEORY +++ echo --tangle=TEST INTHEORY +++ sed -e 's/=.*$//' ++ opt=--tangle + shift -+ do_tangle=3Dyes ++ do_tangle=yes + test -n 'TEST INTHEORY' ++ echo -n TEST INTHEORY -+ chunk=3DTEST INTHEORY ++ chunk=TEST INTHEORY + test 2 -gt 0 -+ optval=3D--output=3Dtest2 -++ echo --output=3Dtest2 -++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=3D//' -+ arg=3Dtest2 -++ echo --output=3Dtest2 -++ sed -e 's/=3D.*$//' -+ opt=3D--output ++ optval=--output=test2 +++ echo --output=test2 +++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=//' ++ arg=test2 +++ echo --output=test2 +++ sed -e 's/=.*$//' ++ opt=--output + shift + maybe_missing_value_for --output test2 + test -z test2 -+ output=3Dtest2 ++ output=test2 + test 1 -gt 0 + -optval=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/numtheor.spad.pa= +optval=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/numtheor.spad.pa= m phlet + break -+ test xyes =3D xyes ++ test xyes = xyes + -file=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/numtheor.spad.pamp= +file=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/numtheor.spad.pamp= h let + '[' -z test2 ']' @@ -74923,92 +50615,92 @@ let + exit 0 [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ cat test2 )clear all -x1:=3D4 -m1:=3D5 -x2:=3D2 -m2:=3D3 -result:=3DchineseRemainder(x1,m1,x2,m2) -expected:=3D14 -if (result-expected ~=3D0) then print "DALY BUG" +x1:=4 +m1:=5 +x2:=2 +m2:=3 +result:=chineseRemainder(x1,m1,x2,m2) +expected:=14 +if (result-expected ~=0) then print "DALY BUG" )clear completely inverse:(INT,INT)->INT -inverse(a,b) =3D=3D - borg:INT:=3Db - c1:INT :=3D 1 - d1:INT :=3D 0 - while b ~=3D 0 repeat - q :=3D a quo b - r :=3D a-q*b - print [a, "=3D", q, "*(", b, ")+", r] - (a,b):=3D(b,r) - (c1,d1):=3D(d1,c1-q*d1) - a ~=3D 1 =3D> error("moduli are not relatively prime") +inverse(a,b) == + borg:INT:=b + c1:INT := 1 + d1:INT := 0 + while b ~= 0 repeat + q := a quo b + r := a-q*b + print [a, "=", q, "*(", b, ")+", r] + (a,b):=(b,r) + (c1,d1):=(d1,c1-q*d1) + a ~= 1 => error("moduli are not relatively prime") positiveRemainder(c1,borg) -if ((inverse(26,15)*26)::IntegerMod(15) ~=3D 1) then print "DALY BUG" -if ((inverse(15,26)*15)::IntegerMod(26) ~=3D 1) then print "DALY BUG" +if ((inverse(26,15)*26)::IntegerMod(15) ~= 1) then print "DALY BUG" +if ((inverse(15,26)*15)::IntegerMod(26) ~= 1) then print "DALY BUG" [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ -[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle=3D'TEST VIEW2D' ---output=3Dtest3 ${srcd +[page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ./document --tangle='TEST VIEW2D' +--output=test3 ${srcd ir}/view2D.spad.pamphlet -+ latex=3Dlatex -+ index=3D@MAKINDEX@ -+ tangle=3D/usr/local/bin/notangle -+ weave=3D/usr/local/bin/noweave ++ latex=latex ++ index=@MAKINDEX@ ++ tangle=/usr/local/bin/notangle ++ weave=/usr/local/bin/noweave + = -TEXINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +TEXINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export TEXINPUTS + = -BIBINPUTS=3D.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: +BIBINPUTS=.:/home/page/axiom.test/build/i686-pc-linux/share/texmf/tex: + export BIBINPUTS -+ do_index=3D -+ do_latex=3D -+ do_tangle=3D -+ do_weave=3D -+ chunk=3D -+ file=3D -+ output=3D -+ tag=3D -+ mode=3D ++ do_index= ++ do_latex= ++ do_tangle= ++ do_weave= ++ chunk= ++ file= ++ output= ++ tag= ++ mode= + test 3 -gt 0 -+ optval=3D--tangle=3DTEST VIEW2D -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST VIEW2D -++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=3D//' -+ arg=3DTEST VIEW2D -++ echo --tangle=3DTEST VIEW2D -++ sed -e 's/=3D.*$//' -+ opt=3D--tangle ++ optval=--tangle=TEST VIEW2D +++ echo --tangle=TEST VIEW2D +++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=//' ++ arg=TEST VIEW2D +++ echo --tangle=TEST VIEW2D +++ sed -e 's/=.*$//' ++ opt=--tangle + shift -+ do_tangle=3Dyes ++ do_tangle=yes + test -n 'TEST VIEW2D' ++ echo -n TEST VIEW2D -+ chunk=3DTEST VIEW2D ++ chunk=TEST VIEW2D + test 2 -gt 0 -+ optval=3D--output=3Dtest3 -++ echo --output=3Dtest3 -++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=3D//' -+ arg=3Dtest3 -++ echo --output=3Dtest3 -++ sed -e 's/=3D.*$//' -+ opt=3D--output ++ optval=--output=test3 +++ echo --output=test3 +++ sed -e 's/^[-a-zA-Z]*=//' ++ arg=test3 +++ echo --output=test3 +++ sed -e 's/=.*$//' ++ opt=--output + shift + maybe_missing_value_for --output test3 + test -z test3 -+ output=3Dtest3 ++ output=test3 + test 1 -gt 0 + -optval=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamp= +optval=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamp= h let + break -+ test xyes =3D xyes ++ test xyes = xyes + -file=3D/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphl= +file=/home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/algebra/view2D.spad.pamphl= e t + '[' -z test3 ']' @@ -75018,51 +50710,29 @@ t + exit 0 [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ cat test3 )clear all -a:=3D0.5 -b:=3D0.5 -y1:=3Ddraw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=3D-1..1,title=3D=3D"2.2.10 explicit") -g1:=3DgetGraph(y1,1) +a:=0.5 +b:=0.5 +y1:=draw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=-1..1,title=="2.2.10 explicit") +g1:=getGraph(y1,1) pointLists g1 -b:=3D1.0 -y2:=3Ddraw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=3D-1..1) -g2:=3DgetGraph(y2,1) +b:=1.0 +y2:=draw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=-1..1) +g2:=getGraph(y2,1) pointLists g2 putGraph(y1,g2,2) -b:=3D2.0 -y3:=3Ddraw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=3D-1..1) -g3:=3DgetGraph(y3,1) +b:=2.0 +y3:=draw(x^3*(a+b*x),x=-1..1) +g3:=getGraph(y3,1) pointLists g3 putGraph(y1,g3,3) -vp:=3DmakeViewport2D(y1) +vp:=makeViewport2D(y1) [page@axiom-developer scripts]$ ----------- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2nC-0002as-Qx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:50:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2nB-0002a4-9r - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:50:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn2nA-0002ZH-Gi - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:50:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] 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Also, pages alredy contain closing parentheses in system commans so \spadsyscom sould not add the second one. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3Ip-0006Bm-Lt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:22:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3In-0006AO-Ge - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:22:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3Im-00069s-LR - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:22:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn3Im-00069o-I5 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:22:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn3Im-0000Eg-At - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:22:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C735E40F09; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:22:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAN1HT3U005244; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:17:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAN1HTsV005243; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:17:29 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 23 Nov 2006 02:17:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sman and X libraries -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 23 Nov 2006 02:17:29 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -75158,89 +50795,56 @@ Aaarg. :-( I don't remember. I'm responsible for having checked in Bill's patch. Bill, did I pervert your patch? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3Ld-0006uK-VR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3Lc-0006se-8R - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3Lb-0006sK-Sc - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn3Lb-0006sH-MN - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:51 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn3Lb-0000fS-Gn - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 013E1677C0; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:51 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3B29866CAE; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:50 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: sman and X libraries Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:25:49 -0500 -Thread-Topic: sman and X libraries -Thread-Index: AccOlsy2EvW6ZMXKR2alH1SsIdctAAABCVJQ From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list - -=20 +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: sman and X libraries > -----Original Message----- -> From:=20 -> axiom-developer-bounces+bill.page1=3Dsynthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu -=3Dsynthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of Waldek Hebisch +> From: +> axiom-developer-bounces+bill.page1=synthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu +=synthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of Waldek Hebisch > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:31 PM > To: list > Subject: sman and X libraries ->=20 +> > in version 288 I see: ->=20 +> > 2006-11-18 Bill Page Bill Page ->=20 +> > * Makefile.pamphlet (LDFLAGS): Add X11 libraries flags. > * Makefile.in: Regenerate. ->=20 +> > Why do we need this: AFAIK sman should not use any X libraries. > In recent build 'ldd sman' gives me: ->=20 -> libXpm.so.4 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXpm.so.4=20 +> +> libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXpm.so.4 > (0x0000002a9566c000) -> libSM.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libSM.so.6 = +> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libSM.so.6 = (0x0000002a95780000) -> libICE.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libICE.so.6=20 +> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libICE.so.6 > (0x0000002a9588d000) -> libX11.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libX11.so.6=20 +> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libX11.so.6 > (0x0000002a959af000) -> libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0000002a95bc4000) -> libXext.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXext.so.6=20 +> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0000002a95bc4000) +> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXext.so.6 > (0x0000002a95dea000) -> libXau.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXau.so.6=20 +> libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXau.so.6 > (0x0000002a95efe000) -> libXdmcp.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6=20 +> libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6 > (0x0000002a96001000) -> libdl.so.2 =3D> /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0000002a96104000) +> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0000002a96104000) > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000002a95556000) ->=20 +> > so now sman will refuse to run on a machine without X libraries. ->=20 -> --=20 +> +> -- I think this change: http://axiom.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/axiom/branches/build-improvement -s/src/sman/Makefile.in?view=3Ddiff&pathrev=3D288&r1=3D287&r2=3D288 +s/src/sman/Makefile.in?view=diff&pathrev=288&r1=287&r2=288 is not correct. The patch I sent to Gaby is here: @@ -75249,11 +50853,11 @@ ml includes the line: -+LDFLAGS=3D -L${LIB} -lspad ${LDF} -lspad ${AXIOM_X11_LDFLAGS} ++LDFLAGS= -L${LIB} -lspad ${LDF} -lspad ${AXIOM_X11_LDFLAGS} and - <>=3D + <>= ${OUT}/sman: ${SMANOBJS} ${MIDOBJ}/sman.o @ echo 13 linking sman - @ ${CC} -o ${OUT}/sman ${MIDOBJ}/sman.o ${SMANOBJS} @@ -75264,43 +50868,11 @@ but in fact ${AXIOM_X11_LDFLAGS} is not needed for sman. I think we need a more "delicate" approach to providing the right libraries in the right place, i.e. more autoconf variables. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3nt-0001P7-KW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:55:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3nr-0001NH-Ea - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:55:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3np-0001JE-Ht - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:55:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn3np-0001Ik-9X - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:55:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn3np-0004B9-6n - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:55:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EA54F3BC; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:54:58 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAN1nZLn005727; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:49:37 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAN1nZ4X005726; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:49:35 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 23 Nov 2006 02:49:34 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: sman and X libraries -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 23 Nov 2006 02:49:34 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -75329,105 +50901,74 @@ Bill Page writes: In this case, would not leaving ${AXIOM_X11_LDFLAGS} out from LDFLAGS solve the issue? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3rK-0003E3-6q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3rI-0003Az-4B - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn3rH-0003Ai-51 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn3rG-0003Af-VE - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:35 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn3rG-0004dr-N0 - for list; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 872DF67AE4; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:33 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9BCEE677D3; - Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:32 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: sman and X libraries Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:58:31 -0500 -Thread-Topic: sman and X libraries -Thread-Index: AccOlsy2EvW6ZMXKR2alH1SsIdctAAABCVJQAAGs8pA= From: Bill Page -To: Bill Page -Cc: list +To: list +Subject: RE: sman and X libraries On Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:26 PM I wrote: > Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > in version 288 I see: -> >=20 +> > > > 2006-11-18 Bill Page Bill Page -> >=20 +> > > > * Makefile.pamphlet (LDFLAGS): Add X11 libraries flags. > > * Makefile.in: Regenerate. -> >=20 +> > > > Why do we need this: AFAIK sman should not use any X libraries. > > In recent build 'ldd sman' gives me: -> >=20 -> > libXpm.so.4 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXpm.so.4=20 +> > +> > libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXpm.so.4 > > (0x0000002a9566c000) -> > libSM.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libSM.so.6=20 +> > libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libSM.so.6 > (0x0000002a95780000) -> > libICE.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libICE.so.6=20 +> > libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libICE.so.6 > > (0x0000002a9588d000) -> > libX11.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libX11.so.6=20 +> > libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libX11.so.6 > > (0x0000002a959af000) -> > libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0000002a95bc4000) -> > libXext.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXext.so.6=20 +> > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0000002a95bc4000) +> > libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXext.so.6 > > (0x0000002a95dea000) -> > libXau.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXau.so.6=20 +> > libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXau.so.6 > > (0x0000002a95efe000) -> > libXdmcp.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6=20 +> > libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libXdmcp.so.6 > > (0x0000002a96001000) -> > libdl.so.2 =3D> /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0000002a96104000) +> > libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0000002a96104000) > > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000002a95556000) -> >=20 +> > > > so now sman will refuse to run on a machine without X libraries. -> >=20 -> > --=20 ->=20 +> > +> > -- +> > I think this change: ->=20 +> http://axiom.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/axiom/branches/build-improvement -s/src/sman/Makefile.in?view=3Ddiff&pathrev=3D288&r1=3D287&r2=3D288 ->=20 +s/src/sman/Makefile.in?view=diff&pathrev=288&r1=287&r2=288 +> > is not correct. The patch I sent to Gaby is here: ->=20 +> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-09/msg00297.ht ml ->=20 +> > includes the line: ->=20 -> +LDFLAGS=3D -L${LIB} -lspad ${LDF} -lspad ${AXIOM_X11_LDFLAGS} ->=20 +> +> +LDFLAGS= -L${LIB} -lspad ${LDF} -lspad ${AXIOM_X11_LDFLAGS} +> > and ->=20 -> <>=3D +> +> <>= > ${OUT}/sman: ${SMANOBJS} ${MIDOBJ}/sman.o > @ echo 13 linking sman > - @ ${CC} -o ${OUT}/sman ${MIDOBJ}/sman.o ${SMANOBJS} > + @ ${CC} -o ${OUT}/sman ${MIDOBJ}/sman.o ${SMANOBJS} ${LDFLAGS} ->=20 +> > but in fact ${AXIOM_X11_LDFLAGS} is not needed for sman. ->=20 +> > I think we need a more "delicate" approach to providing the right > libraries in the right place, i.e. more autoconf variables. ->=20 +> On linux it seems to be be possible to remove LDFLAGS for sman, sesseion and spadclient and rebuild the code in this directory @@ -75447,14 +50988,14 @@ I think the best thing is to remove the LDFLAGS like this: /home/page/axiom.build-improvements/src/sman [page@axiom-developer sman]$ svn diff * Index: Makefile.pamphlet -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +================= --- Makefile.pamphlet (revision 301) +++ Makefile.pamphlet (working copy) @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ \section{session} - <>=3D + <>= ${OUTLIB}/session: $(session_objects) $(session_DEPENDENCIES) - $(CC) $(session_objects) -o $@ $(session_LDADD) $(LDFLAGS) -o $@ + $(CC) $(session_objects) -o $@ $(session_LDADD) -o $@ @@ -75463,14 +51004,14 @@ Index: Makefile.pamphlet \section{nagman} @@ -73,13 +73,13 @@ necessary code (for instance, [[callnag]]). - <>=3D + <>= ${OUT}/nagman: $(nagman_objects) $(nagman_DEPENDENCIES) - $(CC) $(nagman_objects) -o $@ $(nagman_LDADD) $(LDFLAGS) + $(CC) $(nagman_objects) -o $@ $(nagman_LDADD) @ \section{spadclient} - <>=3D + <>= ${OUTLIB}/spadclient: $(spadclient_objects) $(spadclient_DEPENDENCIES) - $(CC) $(spadclient_objects) $(spadclient_LDADD) $(LDFLAGS) -o $@ + $(CC) $(spadclient_objects) $(spadclient_LDADD) -o $@ @@ -75479,7 +51020,7 @@ Index: Makefile.pamphlet @ @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ \section{sman} - <>=3D + <>= ${OUT}/sman: $(sman_objects) $(sman_DEPENDENCIES) - $(CC) $(sman_objects) $(sman_LDADD) $(LDFLAGS) -o $@ + $(CC) $(sman_objects) $(sman_LDADD) -o $@ @@ -75493,42 +51034,11 @@ Index: Makefile.pamphlet Then when I have more time (or Gaby) we can resolve the problem with building on Sun a slightly different way. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn9YV-0007TP-SK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:03:20 +0100 +Date: 23 Nov 2006 09:03:19 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 23 Nov 2006 09:03:19 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -75581,40 +51091,10 @@ version, i.e., works just perfect. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn9ja-0007An-O4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:15:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn9jY-00079x-Gd - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:15:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gn9jW-000781-2r - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:15:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn9jU-00077p-Vb - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:14:57 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn9jU-0000ES-Bg - for list; 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Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:58:18 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly.integrable-solutions.net -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice - - <200611221601.kAMG16u21038@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611221637.kAMGb8v21086@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611241205.kAOC5mT22651@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 24 Nov 2006 16:58:17 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > So, I believe we are now back to the question: If AXIOMsys must be a | > copy of interpsys, why do we have both? @@ -75785,44 +51182,11 @@ In my local tree, I have reorganized src/Makefile so that I'm testing. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnfHd-0000ib-3S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:56:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnfHa-0000ex-BH - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:56:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnfHY-0000br-53 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:56:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnfHY-0000be-18 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:56:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GnetR-0003xc-UV - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:31:18 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnd6A-0000xP-UB - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:36:21 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gnd45-0000zq-N6; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:34:09 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gnd45-0005Kp-IQ; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:34:09 +0100 +Date: 24 Nov 2006 16:34:08 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 24 Nov 2006 16:34:08 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -75842,40 +51206,11 @@ patches! (i.e. uses, users, dependents,...) I'm quite with you! -Thanks a lot, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GngY2-00064f-9E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:17:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GngY0-000644-EP - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:17:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GngXx-00063K-AV - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:17:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GngXx-00063D-2D - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:17:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GngXs-0000D6-L6 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:17:09 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnZ9B-0006nY-Gu - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:23:10 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GnZ3p-0003NB-00; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:17:37 +0100 -Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package -To: Martin Rubey Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:17:37 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package > Dear Waldek, > @@ -75933,79 +51268,42 @@ I think that this case nicely illustrate problems with unused code -- after seemingly unrelated change the code may get used and produce wrong results. - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnhch-0001bE-WC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:26:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnhcg-0001aQ-Ff - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:26:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnhce-0001a1-TQ - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:26:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnhce-0001Zy-PH - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:26:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gngn5-0003sn-Fa - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:32:51 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnVg9-0006el-Np - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 02:40:57 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GnVfB-00057t-9f; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:39:57 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GnVfA-0002yc-V0; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:39:57 +0100 -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot - <1164306425.3366.92.camel@ellipse> <1164315398.3366.106.camel@ellipse> -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 24 Nov 2006 08:39:52 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +Gregory Vanuxem writes: > Le jeudi 23 novembre 2006 =C3=A0 19:27 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =C3=A9cri= t : > > Le jeudi 23 novembre 2006 =C3=A0 09:14 +0100, Martin Rubey a =C3=A9crit= : -> >=20 +> > > > [...] -> >=20 +> > > > > I don't know how to call putWidth from within boot, i.e., after sayin= g )fin. -> > >=20 +> > > > > > I.e., how can I access, say, an Axiom variable from boot? I'd like to= say > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- -> > > p :=3D (x**2)::OUTFORM -> > >=20 +> > > p := (x**2)::OUTFORM +> > > > > > )fin -> > >=20 +> > > > > > putWidth(p) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- > > > or so. ->=20 +> > A more simple way (without history): ->=20 +> > (cddadr (find-if #'(lambda (a) (eql (car a) 'Q)) (caar | > $InteractiveFrame|)))) ->=20 +> > Where Q (or for example |a|) is the name of the variable. Sent even if you > already have a response since the mailing list (my provider ?) has proble= ms. @@ -76016,7 +51314,7 @@ boot-syntax in boot-mode :-( For example, I'd like to interpret - putWidth u is [[.,:n],:.] =3D> n + putWidth u is [[.,:n],:.] => n but (is (|putWidth| u) [[.,:n],:.]) @@ -76024,45 +51322,11 @@ doesn't work... Well, I hope still that I can find the bug now, thanks a lot! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnhi7-0005RF-QI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:31:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnhi2-0005L2-Lw - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:31:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnhi1-0005It-82 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:31:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnhi0-0005IY-RR - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:31:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GngnN-0003zX-K9 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:33:09 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnVbh-00014u-J7 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 02:36:21 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1GnVZi-0001E1-Nx - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:34:18 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) id 1GnVZi-0005nS-Ll - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:34:18 +0100 -To: axiom-dev -From: Martin Rubey Date: 24 Nov 2006 08:34:16 +0100 -Subject: Windows: Re: [#144 Domain abbreviation is no - longer associated with filename] +From: Martin Rubey +To: list +Subject: Windows: Re: [#144 Domain abbreviation is no longer associated with filename] Dear all, @@ -76074,7 +51338,7 @@ mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org (fhub) writes: > Changes > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/144DomainAbbreviationIsNoLongerAssociated= WithFilename/diff ->=20 +> > I=C2=B4m new to Axiom (Windows version), and I=C2=B4ve also this problem = with ')edit > filename.input'. So what exactly should I do with this SPADEDIT.pamphlet @@ -76082,64 +51346,24 @@ with ')edit g as > $AXIOM/lib/SPADEDIT and make it executable". How can I make it executabl= e? ->=20 +> > Sorry for my stupid questions, but as I said I=C2=B4m still a newbie in A= xiom, and > just want to try (and use) it like other CAS. ->=20 +> > Franz. I have written my script for bash, and I don't know how to create an execut= able on windows either... -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gni2U-0000Im-RH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:52:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gni2R-0000E0-A3 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:52:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gni2M-00006M-8w - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:52:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gni2L-00005g-OO - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:52:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnh9n-0001Wq-O0 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:56:20 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnR94-0002xc-SP - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:50:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EAE40F45; - Fri, 24 Nov 2006 03:48:58 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAO2hVgk027412; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 03:43:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAO2hVGf027411; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 03:43:31 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 24 Nov 2006 03:43:31 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice - - <200611221601.kAMG16u21038@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611221637.kAMGb8v21086@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 24 Nov 2006 03:43:31 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > That begs the question: why not put those warm data and files in | > interpsys too, so that we only have one image to care about? @@ -76164,46 +51388,11 @@ Yes, and that is what is done and it is loaded in interpsys. I believe "mamouth system" might be more appropriate :-) :-) ---Gaby - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GniK6-0007MF-2S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:11:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GniK4-0007Kc-1t - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:11:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GniK1-0007I4-2j - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:10:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GniK0-0007Hk-HD - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:10:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GnhkU-0004Aw-Gi - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:34:14 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnOD9-0003RP-PO - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:42:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC340F56; - Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:40:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kANNZVai025140; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:35:33 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kANNZVst025139; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:35:31 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 24 Nov 2006 00:35:30 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 24 Nov 2006 00:35:30 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -76238,57 +51427,28 @@ The rule must be something like all: all-ax all-ax: --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GniW9-0005Ek-Fo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GniW7-0005E6-QB - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GniW6-0005Bq-1r - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GniW5-0005Bd-RX - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:23:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GniGJ-0007IF-Kx - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:07:07 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnLf3-0003jg-R1 - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:59:10 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-20-184.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-20-184.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.210.184]) - by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 15EEF1C001A9; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:57:33 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Martin Rubey - <1164306425.3366.92.camel@ellipse> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:56:38 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot Le jeudi 23 novembre 2006 =E0 19:27 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : > Le jeudi 23 novembre 2006 =E0 09:14 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : ->=20 +> > [...] ->=20 +> > > I don't know how to call putWidth from within boot, i.e., after sayin= g )fin. -> >=20 +> > > > I.e., how can I access, say, an Axiom variable from boot? I'd like to= say > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- -> > p :=3D (x**2)::OUTFORM -> >=20 +> > p := (x**2)::OUTFORM +> > > > )fin -> >=20 +> > > > putWidth(p) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------- @@ -76303,54 +51463,20 @@ Where Q (or for example |a|) is the name of the variable. Sent even if you already have a response since the mailing list (my provider ?) has problems. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gniog-0004TG-BS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:42:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gniod-0004PT-1D - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:42:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gniob-0004Mh-2Z - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:42:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnioa-0004MI-Pp - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:42:32 -0500 -Received: from [70.168.83.81] (helo=centrmmtao03.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnijf-0002dX-Vh - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:37:28 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by centrmmtao03.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061124213732.ERKM235.centrmmtao03.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> - for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:37:32 -0500 -Received: from grizzly-wired ([68.0.200.175]) - by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp - id qlcS1V00E3nZL180000000; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:36:26 -0500 -From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?Kl=F6ckner?= -To: list Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:31:40 -0500 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 +To: list +From: Andreas Kloeckner Subject: [patch] Greek letters in TeX output ---nextPart1654943.xMRQC7UyQb - boundary="Boundary-01=_NqzZFFeYxBL2GOq" - ---Boundary-01=_NqzZFFeYxBL2GOq - charset="us-ascii" - Hi all, One small thing that always irked me about Axiom's tex output is that greek= -=20 -letters when used as variables don't get translated properly. Maxima gets=20 -this right, and it makes the TeXmacs interface a lot more usable. This=20 + +letters when used as variables don't get translated properly. Maxima gets +this right, and it makes the TeXmacs interface a lot more usable. This prompted me to write the attached patch against tex.spad to fix this. I'd b= -e=20 +e happy to see this in the official version. Andreas @@ -76364,7 +51490,7 @@ Andreas 0000000 -0500 +++ mytex.spad 2006-11-24 12:52:45.000000000 -0500 @@ -158,11 +158,27 @@ - specialStrings : L S :=3D + specialStrings : L S := ["cos", "cot", "csc", "log", "sec", "sin", "tan", "cosh", "coth", "csch", "sech", "sinh", "tanh", =2D "acos","asin","atan","erf","...","$","infinity"] @@ -76377,7 +51503,7 @@ Andreas + "Zeta", "Eta", "Theta", "Iota", "Kappa", "Lambda", + "Mu", "Nu", "Xi", "Omikron", "Pi", "Rho", "Sigma", + "Tau", "Upsilon", "Phi", "Chi", "Psi", "Omega"] - specialStringsInTeX : L S :=3D + specialStringsInTeX : L S := ["\cos","\cot","\csc","\log","\sec","\sin","\tan", "\cosh","\coth","\csch","\sech","\sinh","\tanh", =2D "\arccos","\arcsin","\arctan","\erf","\ldots","\$","\infty"] @@ -76393,55 +51519,14 @@ da", Sigma", + "\Tau", "\Upsilon", "\Phi", "\Chi", "\Psi", "\Om= ega"] -=20 + -- local function signatures -=20 - ---Boundary-01=_NqzZFFeYxBL2GOq-- - ---nextPart1654943.xMRQC7UyQb - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQBFZzqPJZ7T4Hn4+FIRAk8yAKCcIz8NE3PHbr56KbpR6IpdfOSa5ACdGH7J -pbwTJWTSw+zRtWRHtNCNDnU= -=q2TF ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---nextPart1654943.xMRQC7UyQb-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gniza-0008Qh-7H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:53:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnizY-0008Mm-CZ - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:53:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnizV-0008Fz-8R - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:53:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnizU-0008FR-Rq - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:53:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GnizU-0003bb-G3 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:53:48 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnJIo-0000fg-OO - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:28:03 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-20-184.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-20-184.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.210.184]) - by mwinf1918.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D29321C000BF; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:26:50 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Martin Rubey + +\start Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:27:05 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot Le jeudi 23 novembre 2006 =E0 09:14 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : @@ -76449,15 +51534,15 @@ Le jeudi 23 novembre 2006 =E0 09:14 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : > I don't know how to call putWidth from within boot, i.e., after saying = )fin. ->=20 +> > I.e., how can I access, say, an Axiom variable from boot? I'd like to s= ay > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- -> p :=3D (x**2)::OUTFORM ->=20 +> p := (x**2)::OUTFORM +> > )fin ->=20 +> > putWidth(p) > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- @@ -76490,18 +51575,18 @@ It's a list of list (Lisp lists). Each list (entries in this mail) in this list has the form: ((step_number "string"|(list_of_"string") - (|variable-name| (|value| (Type) WRAPPED data))(+)=20 + (|variable-name| (|value| (Type) WRAPPED data))(+) where step_numer is an integer, the number displayed in - the interpreter in front of the command and=20 + the interpreter in front of the command and the result "string"|(list_of_"string") is the Axiom command and if it is a list contains all the previous system command - (')something foo') and commentaries ('--something')=20 + (')something foo') and commentaries ('--something') before it (|variable-name| (|value| (Type) WRAPPED data))(+) is what @@ -76535,19 +51620,19 @@ you can access the output value of the Axiom command at step n with : A simple defun (unwrapped output): -(defun uval (step)=20 - (|objValUnwrap| (cdadr=20 +(defun uval (step) + (|objValUnwrap| (cdadr (third (nth (- step 1) (reverse |$internalHistoryTable|))))))) And if you really want to define and access variables (quickly hacked, quickly tested): (defun var (a step) - (|objValUnwrap| (cdadr=20 - (find-if #'(lambda (b) (and (listp b) (eq (car b) a)))=20 + (|objValUnwrap| (cdadr + (find-if #'(lambda (b) (and (listp b) (eq (car b) a))) (nth (- step 1) (reverse |$internalHistoryTable|)))))) -To access interpreter variable 'a' at step 3 :=20 +To access interpreter variable 'a' at step 3 : (var '|a| 3) @@ -76561,35 +51646,11 @@ PS : The interpreter store its variables somewhere but I don't know where. If for example the history is kept in a file, accessing variables (without undo) does not the involve the history file. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnjP3-0002Gx-Su - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:20:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnjP2-0002G1-0C - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:20:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnjOz-0002Eg-8u - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:20:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnjOz-0002Ed-2Q - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:20:09 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GnjOy-00017P-5Q - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:20:08 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAOMJiSX003862; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:19:59 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: Debugging Boot Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:19:27 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: Debugging Boot On November 24, 2006 2:40 AM Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -76604,7 +51665,7 @@ On November 24, 2006 2:40 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -> Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes +> Gregory Vanuxem writes > > A more simple way (without history): > > > > (cddadr (find-if #'(lambda (a) (eql (car a) 'Q)) (caar | @@ -76645,40 +51706,11 @@ to it, re-compile it, and load the resulting lisp code - replacing the previous function definintions. Then execute some test in Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnjUu-0004zV-FR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:26:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnjUt-0004yi-3h - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:26:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnjUr-0004xH-Ax - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:26:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnjUr-0004x2-12 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:26:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GnjUp-00025q-U1 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:26:12 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnI7q-0001HK-CX - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:12:38 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GnHzV-0005vw-00; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:04:01 +0100 -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:04:01 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Let me clarify this. Assume you say "make -j 4". Make creates a @@ -76732,41 +51764,11 @@ same effect). Now, if you prefer stamps, you can use then, but then drop all-recursive part. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnkdt-0004hN-Sx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:39:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnkds-0004g2-1F - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:39:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnkdp-0004dx-JI - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:39:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnkdp-0004de-Er - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:39:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnkdp-0001Or-5l - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:39:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnEM8-0002X0-U0 - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:11:09 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GnEHm-0007nL-00; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:06:39 +0100 -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -To: Tim Daly +\start Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:06:38 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice root wrote: > axiom could be so much faster if we got the gcl_collectfn mechanism @@ -76820,40 +51822,11 @@ Do not get me wrong: it is nice to have fast algebra. But you need developers to make algebra faster, and fast build are necessary to effectively use developers time (and to get them in the first place). - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnkpj-0003dw-7d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:51:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnkph-0003dH-HA - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:51:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnkpg-0003cv-T6 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:51:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnkpg-0003co-MJ - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:51:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnkpg-0004Ho-D4 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:51:48 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnDz8-0006Iu-TH - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:47:23 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GnDxr-0006ia-00; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:46:03 +0100 -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -To: Tim Daly +\start Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:46:03 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice > > That begs the question: why not put those warm data and files in > > interpsys too, so that we only have one image to care about? @@ -76882,39 +51855,11 @@ to Makefiles to preload the new databases. If you check current build-improvements you will see that messages about databases are gone. And the whole tread started discussing this patch. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnkra-00052F-Ul - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:53:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnkrX-0004yK-0O - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:53:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnkrR-0004sN-KS - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:53:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnkrR-0004sG-Eb - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:53:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GnkrR-0004it-H9 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:53:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnDq8-0003Z5-RC - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:38:05 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GnDl9-0004qs-00; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:32:55 +0100 -Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:32:55 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -76954,49 +51899,11 @@ rule, the second one is via src stamp. Currently the second rule can only fire after the first run has finished. But if you allow both rules to run in parallel then you will get a mess in src. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnl8Y-0006yo-GB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:11:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnl8W-0006xa-Gq - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:11:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnl8U-0006v9-LB - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:11:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnl8U-0006us-B3 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:11:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnl8U-0000uj-7B - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:11:14 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnDDT-000225-88 - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:58:07 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kANBuI4w006082 - for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:56:22 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32319 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2006 11:56:19 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Martin Rubey; 23 Nov 2006 11:56:19 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kANBk1L22058; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:46:01 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:46:01 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:35:11 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package -Cc: list > Exactly. That's why I don't understand at all why Tim commented out \spadcmd > and \spadsys and added the close parenthesis. In any case, using the unmodified @@ -77017,37 +51924,11 @@ util.ht should be a pamphlet file so we can document our understanding of the macros and the changes to them but i haven't gotten around to converting it yet. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnlF1-0003cH-JB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:17:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnlEz-0003c7-D5 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:17:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnlEy-0003bl-Iz - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:17:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnlEy-0003bd-0p - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:17:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GnlEx-0001uV-TJ - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:17:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnBzf-0006DN-En - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:47 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GnBvD-0003ok-00; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:35:11 +0100 -Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package -To: Martin Rubey Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:35:11 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package Martin Rubey wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -77133,47 +52014,11 @@ and wh-sandbox, but your message suggested that you have problems with it. % Following macros should be phased out in favor of ones above: - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnldC-0007Bt-O1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:42:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnldB-0007BH-BF - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:42:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnldA-0007Am-Bu - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:42:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnldA-0007Aa-3j - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:42:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnld9-0005xw-Ij - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:42:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnCGc-0007qH-Qa - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:57:19 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GnCFZ-0007CQ-B8; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:56:13 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GnCFZ-0005o3-7o; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:56:13 +0100 +\start +Date: 23 Nov 2006 11:56:12 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 23 Nov 2006 11:56:12 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Dear Waldek, @@ -77211,47 +52056,11 @@ would probably be better to have only one util.ht :-) In any case, I think only the installed util.ht matters, since these files are interpreted, aren't they? - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnliU-0001gJ-LN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:48:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnliS-0001f9-Sx - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:48:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnliN-0001dO-Ox - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:48:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnliN-0001dI-Ma - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:48:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GnliN-0006rn-L3 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:48:19 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.186] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnC3i-0006Wg-Ku - for list; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:43:58 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so1359998nfb - for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:42:57 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=JSeHbaLJhEUiImhI4qqxY/A60HcHYrERTOKX94S8AAoLXzQKGSPc0mOsFIgJgMYR2MTmjsfbaJLtuS9yQE+zRGGNVOJb3ttNLVPaxT7HjXv6H8eTqVajZoCqzH8KmGEYUBUMg2dfrk5TbkQnTf4wRVLrso6WQlJM4J299SQ0fzA= -Received: by 10.82.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr1407905bud.1164278576978; - Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:42:56 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:42:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:42:56 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: make patch 50 work with the guessing package - <9qy7q2oaig.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev Hi Martin, Waldek @@ -77262,37 +52071,11 @@ HyperDoc in Patch 50 runs when compiled the first time. After executing the first part of adding your guessing package, then HyperDoc does not work. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnlx7-0002hL-UU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:03:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnlx6-0002gh-NE - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:03:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnlx4-0002fe-KI - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:03:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnlx4-0002fb-GL - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:03:30 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnlx4-0002HJ-1G - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:03:30 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-29-10.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-29-10.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.135.10]) - by mwinf1924.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C7FE91C000BA - for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 02:03:28 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer +\start Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 02:03:12 +0100 -Subject: PATCH : parenthesis problem in - src/interp/nocompil.lisp.pamphlet +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: PATCH : parenthesis problem in src/interp/nocompil.lisp.pamphlet --- src/interp/nocompil.lisp.pamphlet.old +++ src/interp/nocompil.lisp.pamphlet @@ -77311,35 +52094,10 @@ Subject: PATCH : parenthesis problem in ;; following code needs to run interpreted to overcome arglist length limits - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnnzh-0005J6-UK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:14:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnnzg-0005I0-Cs - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:14:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gnnze-0005G0-CO - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:14:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gnnzd-0005Fe-QK - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:14:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gnnzd-0001Xw-LE - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:14:17 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnaB7-0000T6-5i - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:29:13 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gna8s-0007yb-00 - for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:26:54 +0100 -To: list Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:26:54 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Wrong prototype Gaby, your recent prototype convertion lost return type of spad_error_handler. @@ -77358,44 +52116,11 @@ gcc-3.3.5 complained. The following adds the return type back: { /* fprintf(stderr, "got a spad error\n"); */ --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnoHD-0006g0-5v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:32:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnoHA-0006fo-Su - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:32:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnoH9-0006em-A6 - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:32:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnoH9-0006eg-3R - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:32:23 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnoH9-0004I8-0N - for list; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:32:23 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A3F4F3BC; - Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:32:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAP3Qp9R016626; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:26:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAP3Qpnn016625; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:26:51 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 25 Nov 2006 04:26:50 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Wrong prototype -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 25 Nov 2006 04:26:50 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -77407,41 +52132,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: This is OK as obvious. Please check it in. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GntMn-0003Ap-MO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:58:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GntMl-00039p-6G - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:58:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GntMg-00038p-Hh - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:58:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GntMg-00038m-7q - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:58:26 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GntMg-00004q-5l - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:58:26 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GntMd-0007dW-P0; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:58:23 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GntMd-0000gP-Np; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:58:23 +0100 +Date: 25 Nov 2006 09:58:21 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Building Axiom twice -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 25 Nov 2006 09:58:21 +0100 -Cc: list Dear Waldek, @@ -77472,46 +52167,13 @@ possible :-) to ship a new database as well... As you know, I think the solution would be to start with an almost empty database and rebuild the database after each layer.) -All the best, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GntTS-0006qS-Ln - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:05:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GntTP-0006nR-OZ - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:05:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GntTN-0006ld-Ky - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:05:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GntTN-0006lA-5n - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:05:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GntTM-0001v7-7Q - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:05:20 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GntTK-0005AC-NM; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:05:18 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GntTK-0000qT-KB; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:05:18 +0100 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Martin Rubey Date: 25 Nov 2006 10:05:16 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > I think there might be some confusion. There is no such thing as > "boot-mode" in Axiom. When you see the BOOT> prompt you are @@ -77534,40 +52196,11 @@ OK. Could you please send me instructions (if you know how to do it). * how can I display debugging information in boot, i.e., something like output("Hi, I'm here") and output(some-variable). - - -Thanks, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnvDg-00063Q-QJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnvDe-00061c-Gj - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnvDc-0005zt-A2 - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnvDc-0005zo-1v - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:12 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.23.111] (helo=smtp-msa-out17.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnvDc-0001zh-21 - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:12 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-85-43.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-85-43.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.26.43]) - by mwinf1703.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 64FF47000083 - for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:57:10 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:57:27 +0100 -Subject: PATCH : parenthesis problem in - src/interp/monitor.lisp.pamphlet +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: PATCH : parenthesis problem in src/interp/monitor.lisp.pamphlet --- src/interp/monitor.lisp.pamphlet.old +++ src/interp/monitor.lisp.pamphlet @@ -77587,40 +52220,11 @@ These parenthesis problems (nocompil.lisp (previously sent patch) and this one) prevent loading of these files in, at least, SBCL, GCL-2.7.0 (CVS HEAD) and clisp. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnvnS-00041D-47 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:34:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnvnQ-00040G-PS - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:34:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GnvnP-0003zC-06 - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:34:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnvnO-0003z3-SR - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:34:10 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.30] (helo=smtp1.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnvnK-0005Um-OA - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:34:09 -0500 -Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (mwinf0102 [172.22.132.24]) - by mwinf0105.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 76D954838B2C - for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:30:04 +0100 (CET) -Received: from ALille-251-1-85-43.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-85-43.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.26.43]) - by mwinf0102.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5B9581FFFD42; - Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:26:03 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Martin Rubey - <9qejrr522b.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:25:32 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot Le samedi 25 novembre 2006 =E0 10:05 +0100, Martin Rubey a =E9crit : @@ -77642,44 +52246,17 @@ Otherwise there are some outputting functions in boot, they generally begin with 'say' for example sayBrightly. Personally I use PRINT in your case. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Go9O9-0002Pk-75 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:05:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Go9O7-0002Nm-B3 - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:04:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Go9O5-0002NE-56 - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:04:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Go9O4-0002N3-TE - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:04:56 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp-msa-out14.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Go9O3-0006Tx-6E - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:04:55 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-98-216.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-98-216.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.95.216]) - by mwinf1404.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1A6097000086; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:04:53 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:05:18 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, - Axiom-Developer -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [317] - branches/wh-sandbox +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: branches/wh-sandbox Le samedi 25 novembre 2006 =E0 15:42 -0800, whebisch@users.sourceforge.ne= t a =E9crit : > Revision: 317 -> http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=3D317&view=3Drev +> http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=317&view=rev > Author: whebisch > Date: 2006-11-25 15:42:55 -0800 (Sat, 25 Nov 2006) @@ -77690,37 +52267,11 @@ Do you know the meaning of this variable ? It seems to me that some categories/domains/packages modify it but I have to say that I know nothing about it. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoBZt-0000ur-IO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoBZs-0000ue-IX - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoBZq-0000uR-12 - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoBZp-0000uO-S0 - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoBZp-0002Op-Oa - for list; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:13 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAQ4OiuX017833; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:24:59 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: Debugging Boot Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:24:42 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: Debugging Boot On November 25, 2006 4:05 AM Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -77770,38 +52321,10 @@ Please let me know if this example is clear. You should also feel obligated to add NEW and BETTER examples to the Axiom wiki. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoH7U-0002pm-EL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:20:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoH7S-0002oB-Qe - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:20:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoH7Q-0002mh-AX - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:20:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoH7Q-0002me-5O; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:20:16 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) - id 1GoH7P-000566-Pp; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:20:16 -0500 -Received: from [89.51.150.161] (O96a1.o.pppool.de [89.51.150.161]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAQAK5wH013155; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:20:09 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:20:29 +0100 From: Ralf Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-mail@nongnu.org, list -Cc: +To: list Subject: NNI to SingleInteger Hello, @@ -77829,38 +52352,9 @@ in Aldor. What should I do? Thank you in advance. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoINs-0000iN-Q4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 06:41:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoINq-0000hS-RN - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 06:41:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoINp-0000gf-12 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 06:41:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoINo-0000gY-QV - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 06:41:16 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.168] (helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoINo-0005aI-P6 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 06:41:16 -0500 -Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so798979ugd - for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:41:15 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; - b=NR6zXJ97ZrSblyhSUb2MAI4ZVUgoVHr8Xrd7GvmhdEO27TqD+PWbE4pRa4QfWZDjOqOwIz9CpcxZq1XcroYeX2bjHMkJbjtum7mZPl9EzNmREqzcjasoEQ0lsfleuigV91QNHTPOvTtAdQGYFlUwkZIFi6iHT6/UGHfQi05lJzQ= -Received: by 10.67.27.3 with SMTP id e3mr10399780ugj.1164541274633; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:41:14 -0800 (PST) -Received: from ?192.168.1.131? ( [217.147.33.159]) - by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u1sm13501001uge.2006.11.26.03.41.13; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:41:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:41:19 +0200 -From: Jurgis Pralgauskis +From: Jurgis Pralgauskis To: list Subject: expression parse tree API? @@ -77898,46 +52392,11 @@ http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/96686f9ff4ba371 SAGE folks referenced Maxima.. but I want python, and as I know Axiom is made with python (Maxima probably with C).. -Thanks in advance - --- -Jurgis Pralgauskis -Don't worry be happy, and make things better :) - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoInO-00013p-Ot - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:07:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoInM-00013A-Tk - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:07:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoInK-00012y-D0 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:07:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoInK-00012v-80; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:07:38 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1GoInJ-00010z-QJ; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:07:38 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GoInG-0005h8-8J; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:07:34 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GoInG-0007fa-5u; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:07:34 +0100 -To: Ralf Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: NNI to SingleInteger -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 26 Nov 2006 13:07:33 +0100 -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: NNI to SingleInteger Ralf Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -77964,105 +52423,42 @@ As soon as extend is available, this must be changed, since it makes I guess there is no "retract" in libaldor? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoKTa-0004oe-4m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:55:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoKTY-0004oZ-LP - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:55:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoKTW-0004oM-VC - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:55:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoKTW-0004oJ-Oq - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:55:18 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoKTW-0007SE-OL - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:55:19 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GoKS5-0007gX-00; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:53:49 +0100 -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:53:49 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [317] - branches/wh-sandbox +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: branches/wh-sandbox Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -> Le samedi 25 novembre 2006 ? 15:42 -0800, whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +> Le samedi 25 novembre 2006 ? 15:42 -0800, Waldek Hebisch > a =E9crit : > > Revision: 317 -> > http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=3D317&view=3Drev +> > http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=317&view=rev > > Author: whebisch > > Date: 2006-11-25 15:42:55 -0800 (Sat, 25 Nov 2006) ->=20 +> > > + * src/interp/setq.lisp.pamphlet: set |$noSubsumption| to t. ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Do you know the meaning of this variable ? It seems to me that some > categories/domains/packages modify it but I have to say that I know > nothing about it. ->=20 +> -AFAICS this variable (when set to nil) enables using members of=20 +AFAICS this variable (when set to nil) enables using members of unions in some places where union is expected. I suspect that it has only effect on function signatures. In particular, when this variable is set to nil Axiom may choose different versions of -overloaded functions.=20 +overloaded functions. Note that the change I did is a no-op: |$noSubsumption| were set to t by xrun.boot.pamphlet. ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoLM7-0006dq-9z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:51:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoLM6-0006dJ-Bn - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:51:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoLM4-0006cq-F0 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:51:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoLM4-0006cn-Cy - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:51:40 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoLM4-0005sY-Dp - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:51:40 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23248C6B3D; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:51:38 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 03461-12; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:51:37 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18B1C5B86; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:51:36 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B0546DE01; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:51:36 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:51:27 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Boot -Cc: list On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -78148,45 +52544,13 @@ website) http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/Papers/slpj-book-1987/index.htm - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoLfe-0004E5-I7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:11:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoLfc-0004DQ-SA - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:11:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoLfb-0004Cf-Om - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:11:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoLfb-0004Cc-L0 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:11:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoLfb-0008EZ-7X - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:11:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F02440FBE; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:11:49 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAQF6FkC007904; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:06:17 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAQF6Fo2007903; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:06:15 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Nov 2006 16:06:15 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 25, 2006 4:05 AM Martin Rubey wrote: | @@ -78232,31 +52596,9 @@ What happens if you just say: ? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOer-0007PD-9Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:23:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoGpH-0005Be-Cy - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:01:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoGpE-0005Ac-3K - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:01:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoGpD-0005AP-Pe - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:01:27 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoGpD-0003Lx-9W - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 05:01:27 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.1.7] (jpvial.pck.nerim.net [213.41.243.206]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2754F3CB - for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:01:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:01:25 +0100 -From: Jean-Pierre Vial +From: Jean-Pierre Vial To: list Subject: build axiom on amd64 (= x86_64) linux Suse/Novell @@ -78290,34 +52632,10 @@ in axiom.sty When they are present, latex hangs, without error message since it is run in non-interactive mode. --- -Jean-Pierre Vial - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOer-0007PH-G2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:23:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoNMg-0006pT-43 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:00:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoNMe-0006ni-58 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:00:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoNMd-0006nW-PX - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:00:23 -0500 -Received: from [217.147.32.1] (helo=mail.init.lt) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoNMd-0003fF-5O - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:00:23 -0500 -Received: from ctv-217-147-33-159.init.lt ([217.147.33.159] - helo=[192.168.1.131]) by mail.init.lt with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) - id 1GoN4J-000AnS-Sq - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:41:28 +0200 + +\start Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:41:25 +0200 -From: Jurgis Pralgauskis +From: Jurgis Pralgauskis To: list Subject: expression parse tree API? @@ -78356,42 +52674,11 @@ http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/96686f9ff4ba371 SAGE folks referenced Maxima.. but I want python, and as I know Axiom is made with python (Maxima probably with C).. -Thanks in advance - - - --- -Jurgis Pralgauskis -Don't worry, be happy :) and make things better ;) - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOoQ-0004t5-Uh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:33:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOoO-0004s1-IJ - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:33:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOoL-0004qI-OK - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:33:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoOoL-0004ps-3y - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:33:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.133] (helo=mail13c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoOoK-000864-W0 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:33:05 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail13c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAQIWkOb009943; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:33:00 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Jurgis Pralgauskis'" -Subject: RE: expression parse tree API? +\start Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:32:43 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Jurgis Pralgauskis +Subject: RE: expression parse tree API? On November 26, 2006 11:41 AM Jurgis Pralgauskis wrote: @@ -78405,39 +52692,11 @@ a3711 ??? Both Axiom and Maxima are written in Lisp. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOuX-0000B9-Vm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:39:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOuU-00008R-Nr - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:39:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOuS-00005w-V4 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:39:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoOuS-00005c-6C - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:39:24 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.133] (helo=mail13c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoOuS-0000qZ-5k - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:39:24 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail13c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAQIchdW010891; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:38:58 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:38:40 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Debugging Boot -Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:38:40 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list On November 26, 2006 10:06 AM Gaby asked: @@ -78472,51 +52731,15 @@ Hmmm... What were you expecting? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOy1-0003K9-6K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:43:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOxy-0003Id-Fx - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:43:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoOxv-0003FW-LM - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:43:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoOxu-0003FK-Us - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:42:58 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoOxu-0001hX-Qk - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:42:58 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D014F3D4; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:42:46 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAQIbMKD010685; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:37:24 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAQIbMvE010684; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:37:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Jean-Pierre Vial -Subject: Re: build axiom on amd64 (= x86_64) linux - Suse/Novell -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Nov 2006 19:37:22 +0100 -Cc: list - +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Jean-Pierre Vial +Subject: Re: build axiom on amd64 (= x86_64) linux Suse/Novell Salut Jean-Pierre, -Jean-Pierre Vial writes: +Jean-Pierre Vial writes: | since the linux binary version does not work | on my Suse/Novell 10.1 amd64 machine @@ -78536,62 +52759,37 @@ corrected. I build Axiom on an x86_64 running SUSE linux 10.1 on a daily basis. If you're adventurous you might want to test the build-improvements branch. --- Gaby - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQ9U-0007We-Ig - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:59:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQ9S-0007WU-Qr - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:58:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQ9O-0007VT-Se - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:58:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoQ9O-0007VQ-PX - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:58:54 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoQ9O-0001bu-St - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:58:55 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-171.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-171.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.171]) - by mwinf1903.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 15B051C000BB; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:58:25 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Debugging Boot -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:57:55 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Debugging Boot Le dimanche 26 novembre 2006 =E0 13:38 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > On November 26, 2006 10:06 AM Gaby asked: ->=20 +> > > ... -> > Bill Page wrote:=20 +> > Bill Page wrote: > > | See the example at: -> > |=20 +> > | > > | http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxIOutput -> > |=20 +> > | > > | The commands executed by MathAction to compile and load modified > > | BOOT code for i-ouput.boot are equivalent to the following: -> > |=20 +> > | > > | )lisp (boottran::boottocl "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -> >=20 +> > > > What happens if you just say: -> >=20 +> > > > )lisp (boottran::boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -> >=20 +> > > > ? > > ->=20 +> > Hmmm... -> =20 +> > (1) -> )lisp (boottran::boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") ->=20 +> > >> System error: > The function BOOTTRAN::BOOT is undefined. @@ -78599,37 +52797,11 @@ I think Gaby wanted to say: )lisp (boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQZM-0000yq-FL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:25:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQZK-0000xM-L0 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:25:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQZI-0000vG-0H - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:25:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoQZH-0000vA-Qq - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:25:39 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.63] (helo=mail243.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoQZH-0000XA-OU - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:25:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail243.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAQKPDED028573; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:25:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Debugging Boot Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:25:09 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Debugging Boot On November 26, 2006 2:58 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: > ... @@ -78659,47 +52831,13 @@ making me "experiment"? What contribution is this to documentation of Axiom? :-( -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQqX-0003BG-4f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:43:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQqV-0003AK-G3 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:43:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoQqS-000392-QV - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:43:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoQqS-00038u-JE - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:43:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoQqS-0003wY-LE - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:43:24 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D17B40F5B; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:43:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAQKblSA012439; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:37:50 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAQKblk1012438; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:37:47 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Nov 2006 21:37:43 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 26, 2006 2:58 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: | > ... @@ -78742,115 +52880,58 @@ For sure, when I invoke it in boostsy that way, it works for me. ??? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoR4p-0004PE-4l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:58:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoR4m-0004Ol-Rd - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:58:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoR4k-0004Ng-UL - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:58:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoR4k-0004NX-MS - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:58:10 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoR4k-0007xb-OL - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:58:10 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-171.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-171.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.171]) - by mwinf1923.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1B54C1C00088; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:57:35 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:57:01 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot Le dimanche 26 novembre 2006 =E0 21:37 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit = : -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: ->=20 +> Bill Page writes: +> > | On November 26, 2006 2:58 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: > | > ... > | > > On November 26, 2006 10:06 AM Gaby asked: -> | > > >=20 +> | > > > > | > > > What happens if you just say: -> | > > >=20 +> | > > > > | > > > )lisp (boottran::boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -> | > > >=20 +> | > > > > | > > > ? > | > > > -> | > >=20 +> | > > > | > > Hmmm... -> | > > =20 +> | > > > | > > (1) -> )lisp (boottran::boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -> | > >=20 +> | > > > | > > >> System error: > | > > The function BOOTTRAN::BOOT is undefined. -> | >=20 +> | > > | > I think Gaby wanted to say: -> | >=20 +> | > > | > )lisp (boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -> | >=20 -> |=20 +> | > +> | > | So why not just say what it is supposed to do instead of > | making me "experiment"? ->=20 +> > ??? ->=20 +> > I did mean boottran::boot, as I intended boot from package boottran > which is documented (src/boot/ptyout.boot) as ->=20 +> > -- (boot "filename") translates the file "filename.boot" to > -- the common lisp file "filename.clisp", compiles it and loads > -- the bbin/o file. Sorry. I see now. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRBG-0008H1-HR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:04:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRBF-0008Gf-2v - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:04:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRBC-0008GP-IZ - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:04:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoRBC-0008GM-GY - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:04:50 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoRBB-000175-Si - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:04:50 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5664F3D6; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:04:36 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAQKxDtS012965; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:59:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAQKxDAA012964; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:59:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 26 Nov 2006 21:59:13 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sman and X libraries -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Nov 2006 21:59:13 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -78884,40 +52965,15 @@ Fixed. As of today, 'ldd sman' gives: libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x4003c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRDh-00020H-0x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:07:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRDf-0001yN-Fg - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:07:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRDd-0001wW-91 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:07:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoRDd-0001wR-5V - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:07:21 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.28] (helo=mail208.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoRDc-0001o1-R7 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:07:21 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail208.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAQL6vUX021242; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:07:11 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:06:53 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Debugging Boot -Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:06:53 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list On November 26, 2006 3:38 PM Gaby wrote: > -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > > | On November 26, 2006 2:58 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: > | > ... @@ -78975,44 +53031,11 @@ In the mean time I still don't know what does in AXIOMsys (presumably the same thing?). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRFw-0004I4-5K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:09:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRFu-0004Ge-Ij - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:09:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRFt-0004Fh-99 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:09:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoRFs-0004FX-NM - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:09:40 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.172] (helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoRFr-0002vq-Lf - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:09:39 -0500 -Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so862811ugc - for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; - b=nkYmNt1HR22KY3jZsnLbmOKiEtFSCsUPfYgFq21uJKyA7ZyH921YiX8gRQO3RbGD8uAOuLvap8LsnWebkGzOcn5sV0WDOCOG/n3HhE3Jf+K8Y7V31Iy4055RITrtDQFFYDRIpd8Vm2XozqQppJH2Cl0lEN9ShYV57QPN35ik6Js= -Received: by 10.66.221.6 with SMTP id t6mr11196948ugg.1164575378627; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) -Received: from ?192.168.1.131? ( [217.147.33.159]) - by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j34sm16878516ugc.2006.11.26.13.09.37; - Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 23:09:44 +0200 -From: Jurgis Pralgauskis +From: Jurgis Pralgauskis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: expression parse tree API? -Cc: list ups.. probably I missunderstood sth.. a few years ago I stumbled upon Axiom, and maybe zwiki, and mentioning of python in @@ -79021,9 +53044,6 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDevelopment made me think so... anyway, could You point me where to look for expression parse API , if there is such.. -Thanks - - Bill Page wrote: > On November 26, 2006 11:41 AM Jurgis Pralgauskis wrote: > @@ -79039,96 +53059,24 @@ Bill Page wrote: >> > > ??? Both Axiom and Maxima are written in Lisp. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRPz-0000iz-Ac - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRPy-0000ik-GI - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRPw-0000iG-Po - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoRPw-0000i9-J1 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:04 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoRPw-0004hR-F3 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:04 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA3B4108C - for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:20:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAQLES4T013213 - for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:14:30 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAQLES6g013212; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:14:28 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Nov 2006 22:14:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: build-improvements on cygwin - - -Hi, - I would like to test build-improvements on cygwin, but gcl-2.6.8pre (and gcl-2.6.7) would not compile there. If you know of the status of GCL on cygwin, please tell me; otherwise, I fear Axiom on cygwin will be delayed till I have time to work on GCL for cygwin (which will be none this year). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRQl-00010J-PU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRQj-000109-RD - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRQh-0000zj-6m - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoRQh-0000zf-3c - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:51 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.62] (helo=mail242.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoRQg-0004nV-Tj - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:51 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail242.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAQLKVrA018424; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:44 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Jurgis Pralgauskis'" -Subject: RE: expression parse tree API? Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:20:27 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Jurgis Pralgauskis +Subject: RE: expression parse tree API? On November 26, 2006 4:10 PM Jurgis Pralgauskis wrote: > @@ -79179,42 +53127,12 @@ http://mail.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer >> > > ??? Both Axiom and Maxima are written in Lisp. -> - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRUw-0002cH-Ju - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:25:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRUv-0002bj-7t - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:25:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoRUs-0002Y1-KK - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:25:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoRUs-0002Xr-HN - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:25:10 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.132] (helo=mail12c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoRUs-0005O4-DK - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:25:10 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail12c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAQLOEBW021711; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:24:30 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:24:08 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin On November 26, 2006 4:14 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -79228,47 +53146,13 @@ On November 26, 2006 4:14 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: gcl-2.6.8pre compiles natively under Windows using MSYS/MinGW. cygwin is not necessary. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoTgf-00049L-4S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:45:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoTgc-00046T-O2 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:45:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoTgZ-00042H-6f - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:45:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoTgY-00041C-KE - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:45:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoTgX-0003gk-Jq - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:45:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3714B4F3D1; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:45:06 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAQNdinW015391; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:39:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAQNdi9a015390; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:39:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Nov 2006 00:39:44 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 26, 2006 4:14 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > @@ -79285,118 +53169,63 @@ Cc: list Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I tried cygwin because it is was I'm used when I'm forced to use windows. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoTkN-0006v9-Ku - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:49:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoTkL-0006th-R0 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:49:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoTkK-0006s4-1W - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:49:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoTkJ-0006rd-DG - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:49:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoTkJ-0004ax-Bx - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:49:15 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C884F3D4; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:48:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAQNhcXI015526; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:43:40 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAQNhc03015525; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:43:38 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot - - <1164574621.3233.5.camel@ellipse> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Nov 2006 00:43:38 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +Gregory Vanuxem writes: | Le dimanche 26 novembre 2006 =E0 21:37 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : -| > "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: -| >=20 +| > Bill Page writes: +| > | > | On November 26, 2006 2:58 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: | > | > ... | > | > > On November 26, 2006 10:06 AM Gaby asked: -| > | > > >=20 +| > | > > > | > | > > > What happens if you just say: -| > | > > >=20 +| > | > > > | > | > > > )lisp (boottran::boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -| > | > > >=20 +| > | > > > | > | > > > ? | > | > > > -| > | > >=20 +| > | > > | > | > > Hmmm... -| > | > >=20=20 +| > | > > | > | > > (1) -> )lisp (boottran::boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -| > | > >=20 +| > | > > | > | > > >> System error: | > | > > The function BOOTTRAN::BOOT is undefined. -| > | >=20 +| > | > | > | > I think Gaby wanted to say: -| > | >=20 +| > | > | > | > )lisp (boot "src/interp/i-output2.boot") -| > | >=20 -| > |=20 +| > | > +| > | | > | So why not just say what it is supposed to do instead of | > | making me "experiment"? -| >=20 +| > | > ??? -| >=20 +| > | > I did mean boottran::boot, as I intended boot from package boottran | > which is documented (src/boot/ptyout.boot) as -| >=20 +| > | > -- (boot "filename") translates the file "filename.boot" to | > -- the common lisp file "filename.clisp", compiles it and loads | > -- the bbin/o file. -|=20 +| | Sorry. I see now. Don't be sorry. Apparently, I made the incorrect assumption that Bill was more knowledgeable with the system than he thinks he is. That exceedingly annoyed him. Please ignore my message. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoV8N-0003Px-NP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:18:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoV8L-0003Of-R2 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:18:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoV8K-0003Mk-20 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:18:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoV8J-0003MZ-TF - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:18:07 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoV8J-0007Y6-Na - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:18:07 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GoV6u-0005Pt-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 02:16:40 +0100 -Subject: Re: sman and X libraries -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 02:16:40 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: sman and X libraries Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Fixed. As of today, 'ldd sman' gives: @@ -79415,44 +53244,11 @@ $(AXIOM_SRC_TARGETS): is doing cd to my home directory, where no Makefile is present. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoW1I-0007hL-N8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:14:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoW1H-0007hC-0h - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:14:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoW1F-0007gE-9y - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:14:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoW1F-0007fx-5p - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:14:53 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoW1E-0004vJ-Lz - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:14:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009F340E35; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 03:14:47 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAR29DDm018035; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 03:09:16 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAR29Dva018034; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 03:09:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 27 Nov 2006 03:09:13 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sman and X libraries -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 27 Nov 2006 03:09:13 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -79537,35 +53333,11 @@ again. I did a fresh check out, and I'm testing this. -rm -f stamp $(STAMP) stamp - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoWVT-0003SB-04 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:46:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoWVQ-0003QG-Sw - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:46:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoWVP-0003Oc-5f - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:46:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoWVO-0003OG-Qq - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:46:02 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.132] (helo=mail12c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoWVO-0003TZ-SS - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:46:03 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail12c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAR2jeTn028632; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:45:55 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:45:36 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Debugging Boot -Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:45:36 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list Gaby, @@ -79609,47 +53381,13 @@ which started this thread, since we still have no specific documentation to which I could point even though this is quite fundamental to Axiom debugging and development. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoX0w-0001YB-H2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:18:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoX0v-0001Ws-B0 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:18:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoX0u-0001Vm-K2 - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:18:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoX0u-0001VT-Dd - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:18:36 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoX0u-0008Or-Bn - for list; Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:18:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824DF4F3BC; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:18:33 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAR3CxjS018759; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:13:01 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAR3Cxx3018758; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:12:59 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Nov 2006 04:12:58 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Debugging Boot -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | Gaby, | @@ -79693,45 +53431,13 @@ suggested that the single command does the same thing as the two commands (I knew it was the same for bootsys, I wasn't sure for old boot). Which is why I did ask. But, apparently, I should have not. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoZAR-0006FZ-7I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:36:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoZAQ-0006EM-2o - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:36:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoZAO-0006Ct-HF - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:36:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoZAO-0006Cq-Ds - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:36:32 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoZAO-00087J-Dm - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:36:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45404F3C9; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:36:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAR5Usu8020943; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:30:56 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAR5UsKU020942; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:30:54 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Nov 2006 06:30:53 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 26, 2006 4:14 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > @@ -79750,32 +53456,7 @@ GCL-2.6.8pre failed because it could not find some of the basic standard headers. Meanwhile, I learnt what -mno-cygwin can trick GCC to do. I'm falling back to that. It's late, I'm going to bed. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoeYK-0006rn-Tn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:21:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoeYH-0006p5-Rk - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:21:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoeYE-0006mm-FA - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:21:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoeYD-0006mD-K6 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:21:29 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoeYD-0006me-5G - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:21:29 -0500 -Received: from [89.51.156.171] (O9cab.o.pppool.de [89.51.156.171]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kARBLOZB010312 - for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:21:26 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:21:58 +0100 From: Ralf Ralf Hemmecke To: list @@ -79815,38 +53496,11 @@ PS: If that is too imprecise, I could detail, but at the moment I work under Linux and only get a dialup connection with Windows, so it is a pain to switch all the time. :-( - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GogLy-0006PZ-99 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:16:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GogLv-0006O8-VR - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:16:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GogLv-0006Ne-9v - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:16:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GogLv-0006Nb-7J - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:16:55 -0500 -Received: from [81.103.221.47] (helo=mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GogLq-0004BP-P4 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:16:55 -0500 -Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) - by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061127131714.IAHD15018.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:17:14 +0000 -Received: from cpc1-hers1-0-0-cust687.hers.cable.ntl.com ([86.2.174.176]) - by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id - <20061127131747.FNOS26699.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc1-hers1-0-0-cust687.hers.cable.ntl.com>; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:17:47 +0000 -Subject: Re: Aldor extend usable in Axiom??? -From: Peter Broadbery -To: Ralf Ralf Hemmecke Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:17:02 +0000 -Cc: list +From: Peter Broadbery +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: Aldor extend usable in Axiom??? On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 12:21 +0100, Ralf wrote: > Hello, @@ -79901,41 +53555,11 @@ In either case, the 'extend' case needs to be handled seperately, because in the normal course of events, one expects 'Integer' to be the latest one loaded into the system. -Peter - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoirH-0006CT-IG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:57:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoirE-00068Z-TO - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:57:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goir8-00062t-TL - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:57:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Goir8-00062g-EH - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:57:18 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Goir7-0001yS-Dc - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:57:17 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kARFupfe015484; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:57:05 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:56:45 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin -Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:56:45 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list On November 27, 2006 10:11 AM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -80040,46 +53664,13 @@ on Windows. :-( If you can make this work, great! Please keep me informed. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goj2R-0005Ew-HA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:08:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goj2O-0005CA-Ny - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:08:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goj2I-000563-5e - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:08:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Goj2H-00055a-Sj - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:08:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Goj2H-0004hH-7T - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:08:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gohsy-0005lA-Ix - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:55:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C97F4F4DF - for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:54:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1GohsR-0001pH-8I - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:54:35 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 27 Nov 2006 15:54:29 +0100 -Subject: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric - functions. +From: Francois Maltey +To: list +Subject: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric functions. -Hello,=20 +Hello, Today I can't obtain sum as sum (1 / factorial n, n) with axiom silver. @@ -80087,51 +53678,18 @@ Is there someone who has already make a such package ? Is there someone who is working on ? This algorithm uses hypergeometric functions and a recursive relation -over polynoms as a(n)p(n+1)-b(n-1)p(n)=3Dc(n) where we are looking for +over polynoms as a(n)p(n+1)-b(n-1)p(n)=c(n) where we are looking for one polynom p(n) from a(n), b(n) et c(n). -I ask the same question :=20 +I ask the same question : Are there such packages already done ? Who is working for such packages ? -Have a good day. - -Fran=E7ois, in France. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojJC-0002kr-A0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:26:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojJ9-0002gW-Gn - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:26:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojJ1-0002X5-QP - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:26:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GojJ1-0002Wc-96 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:26:07 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GojJ0-0000S3-Ut - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:26:07 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GojIa-0002AJ-DX; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:25:40 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GojIa-0008Gm-CF; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:25:40 +0100 -To: Francois Maltey -Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric - functions. -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 27 Nov 2006 17:25:19 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric functions. Francois Maltey writes: @@ -80169,46 +53727,16 @@ Sample session: (PRec is for Polynomially RECursive) To obtain the guessing package, send me a note. The version on MathAction is OK, but contains one or two bugs (irrelevant for most things) - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojMp-0005Y3-P8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:30:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojMo-0005XT-K5 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:30:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojMj-0005Tv-KK - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:30:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GojMj-0005To-Fs - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:29:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GojMi-0001Xp-OA - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:29:57 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.63] (helo=mail243.megamailservers.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Goh46-0008N2-Iy - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:02:34 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail243.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kARE1hs0028820; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:01:57 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:01:37 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin -Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:01:37 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list On November 27, 2006 12:31 AM Gaby wrote: > > -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > > | On November 26, 2006 4:14 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | > @@ -80244,42 +53772,11 @@ Yes, I think it should be possible to cross-compile from cygwin but that seems like a lot of trouble. If you get this to work then please let me know. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojQW-0008Jj-7i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:33:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojQT-0008GE-AI - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:33:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojQL-00089c-92 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:33:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GojQL-00089T-4r - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:33:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GojQK-0002Tt-Rn - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:33:41 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.29] (helo=mail209.megamailservers.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gogvv-00072X-V6 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:54:08 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail209.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kARDr6jx018933; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:53:21 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:53:00 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Debugging Boot -Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:53:00 -0500 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: list On November 26, 2006 10:13 PM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -80306,37 +53803,11 @@ different (but I have not checked all the details). Anyway, let me just say: Thank you for the question. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojVc-0003l3-OR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:39:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojVZ-0003hZ-6k - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:39:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GojVS-0003cC-UV - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:39:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GojVS-0003c0-Nr - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:38:58 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GojVS-00040q-9T - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:38:58 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GojU5-0002TL-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:37:33 +0100 -Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric - functions. -To: Francois Maltey Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:37:33 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric functions. > Today I can't obtain sum as sum (1 / factorial n, n) with axiom silver. > @@ -80367,53 +53838,24 @@ P.S. I do not remember if there is a trick to use GospersMethod from command line -- I probably had to modify and recompile some algebra files. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gol9h-0002wD-3K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:24:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gol9c-0002si-HT - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:24:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gol9X-0002oU-MT - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:24:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gol9X-0002o1-8x - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:24:27 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gol9W-00049C-Hb - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:24:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E6B4108C; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:24:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1Gol9O-00021N-GA; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:24:18 +0100 -To: Francois Maltey -Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric - functions. -From: Francois Maltey +\start Date: 27 Nov 2006 19:24:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Francois Maltey +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric functions. Thanks a lot Martin and Waldek, In fact I'm looking for testing with axiom the sum that my students do. I hope that axiom computes right (as the two M....) the most possible ser= ies. -By example students search the series bellow.=20 +By example students search the series bellow. -Are they all hypergeometrics ?=20 +Are they all hypergeometrics ? this means that u(n+1) / u(n) is an alg=E9braic fraction as (n-...)(n-...) - - - (n-...)/(n-...) - - - (n-...) -I believe yes but the cos/cosh/sin/sinh.=20 +I believe yes but the cos/cosh/sin/sinh. In this case the standard way with complex, combine and expand is right. The very last one can be find by expand sum ... + sum ... The only real problem is about the malicious sum ((2^((-1)^n), n) @@ -80421,13 +53863,13 @@ for n even and n odd. Am I right ? -Theses exercices have a closed form so the Gosper algorithm gives the=20 +Theses exercices have a closed form so the Gosper algorithm gives the solution as a hypergeometric serie. Am I right (again) ? -How can I use the GosperPackage :=20 -I don't know how to use the signature for the command=20 +How can I use the GosperPackage : +I don't know how to use the signature for the command GosperMethod (Q, V, ()-> V) -> Union (Q, "failed") ++ GospersMethod(b, n, new) returns a rational function @@ -80435,11 +53877,11 @@ I don't know how to use the signature for the command=20 te ++ sum of \spad{a(n)} ++ with respect to upward difference on \spad{n}, i.e. - ++ \spad{a(n+1) * rf(n+1) - a(n) * rf(n) =3D a(n)}, + ++ \spad{a(n+1) * rf(n+1) - a(n) * rf(n) = a(n)}, The package is : -GosperSummationMethod(E, V, R, P, Q): Exports =3D=3D Impl where +GosperSummationMethod(E, V, R, P, Q): Exports == Impl where E: OrderedAbelianMonoidSup V: OrderedSet R: IntegralDomain @@ -80449,15 +53891,15 @@ GosperSummationMethod(E, V, R, P, Q): Exports =3D=3D Impl where Then can I recognize << with my eyes >> the hypergeometric serie ? -The easiest hypergeometric serie are 0F0 (x)=3Dexp x and 1F0 (a, x)=3D(1-= +The easiest hypergeometric serie are 0F0 (x)=exp x and 1F0 (a, x)=(1-= x)^(-a). For others functions must I cut the hypergeometric serie in order to reco= gnize -atan, exp and so. Is it possible ?=20 +atan, exp and so. Is it possible ? -The main problem is perhaps to simplify (n+1)!/n!,=20 -but an expand/rewrite function can do it, no ?=20 +The main problem is perhaps to simplify (n+1)!/n!, +but an expand/rewrite function can do it, no ? Martin, I'm sorry but I don't understand what your package do, And I don't find your package on my silver axiom. @@ -80466,88 +53908,56 @@ My aim is to force axiom to compute theses exercices about series. Thanks a lot if you accept to drive me inside theses algorithms. -sum (n^2 * x^n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES -sum (n^3 * x^n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES +sum (n^2 * x^n, n=0..%plusInfinity) -- YES +sum (n^3 * x^n, n=0..%plusInfinity) -- YES -sum (x^n / (2*n-1), n=3D1..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum (x^n / (2*n-1), n=1..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (1 / (n+1) / (n+3), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES -sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum (1 / (n+1) / (n+3), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- YES +sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (1 / (4*n^2-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES -sum ((-1)^n * x^(2*n+1) / (4*n^2-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum ((-1)^n * x^(2*n+1) / (4*n^2-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no=20 +sum (1 / (4*n^2-1), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- YES +sum ((-1)^n * x^(2*n+1) / (4*n^2-1), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum ((-1)^n * x^(2*n+1) / (4*n^2-1), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n / (4*n-1), n=3D1..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum ((n+3) * x^n / (2*n+1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum (x^n / (4*n-1), n=1..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum ((n+3) * x^n / (2*n+1), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n * exp (n*a), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES -sum (x^n * cosh (n*a), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n * exp (n*a) / n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n * cosh (n*a) / n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum (x^n * exp (n*a), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- YES +sum (x^n * cosh (n*a), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum (x^n * exp (n*a) / n, n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no +sum (x^n * cosh (n*a) / n, n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n * sin (n*a)^2 / 2^n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES with= +sum (x^n * sin (n*a)^2 / 2^n, n=0..%plusInfinity) -- YES with= exp %i -sum (x^n * (n^2+1) / (n+1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no - -sum (x^n / factorial n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n / factorial (2*n), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n * sin (n*a)^2 / factorial (n), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no=20 -sum (x^n * n^5 / factorial n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^(3*n) / factorial (3*n), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (x^n * binomial (n+1, 2*n), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum ((-1)^n * binomial (n, 2*n) / 4^n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no - -sum (1 / (n^2-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES -sum (x^n / (n^2-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (1 / (3*n+1) / (6*n+5), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no - -sum (1 / n / (n-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES -sum (x^n / n / (n-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no - -sum ((4*n+1) / (2*n^2+n-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum ((4*n+1) * x^n / (2*n^2+n-1), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no - -sum ((2^((-1)^n), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no -sum (a^n * (1+b^n) / n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gor64-0003fk-5I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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On 27 Nov 2006, Francois Maltey wrote: @@ -80561,58 +53971,13 @@ has a about 10^4 lines of code (as Schneider told me). Furthoermore, its not literate codes and the algorithms are sparcely documented in research papers only (if at all).... -Donno if that helps... -ciao -BF. - - -% PD Dr Bertfried Fauser -% Institution: Max Planck Institute for Math, Leipzig -% Privat Docent: University of Konstanz, Phys Dept -% contact|->URL : http://clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~fauser/ -% Phone : Leipzig +49 341 9959 735 Konstanz +49 7531 693491 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosLt-0002As-Um - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:05:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosLs-000291-67 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:05:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosLq-00026k-GR - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:05:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GosLq-00026X-8l - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:05:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Gorsi-00015g-3X - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:35:32 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gon0K-0004EY-Et - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:23:04 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4114FC4A; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:22:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kARKGkZw005298; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:16:48 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kARKGkNW005297; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:16:46 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 27 Nov 2006 21:16:45 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 27, 2006 1:02 PM Gaby wrote: | > ... @@ -80646,39 +54011,9 @@ that it provides some POSIX/Unix functionalities that I'm not sure I have under mingw, and on the other hand I can convince GCC to generate mingw binaries from cygwin. It was not for the X11 stuff. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosRo-0007gw-W7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:11:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosRn-0007gE-K9 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:11:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosRi-0007fD-Vc - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:11:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GosRi-0007f5-Qk - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:11:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GosRh-00014O-Nu - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:11:42 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAS2BOus013538 - for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:11:32 -0500 -Received: (qmail 9162 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2006 02:11:24 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 28 Nov 2006 02:11:24 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAS20bF32742; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:00:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:00:37 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet @@ -80702,36 +54037,11 @@ but in sandbox it reads: i don't understand this change. can someone explain it? -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosjD-0001xY-2o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GosjB-0001wY-8U - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gosj9-0001vK-Fb - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gosj9-0001vA-5D - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:43 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.135] (helo=mail15c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gosj8-0005vK-QH - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:43 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail15c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAS2TM7P003898; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:35 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:14 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet -Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:29:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 27, 2006 9:01 PM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -80758,79 +54068,22 @@ On November 27, 2006 9:01 PM Tim Daly wrote: What is "sandbox"? Where can I find this code? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goss1-0002Io-9Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:38:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gosrz-0002He-Rm - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:38:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gosrw-0002Eu-OG - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:38:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gosrw-0002EZ-Az - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gosrw-0000CV-5K - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:38:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAS2cVwG029197 - for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:38:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20155 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2006 02:38:31 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 28 Nov 2006 02:38:31 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAS2Rip00301; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:27:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:27:44 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet -Cc: list > What is "sandbox"? Where can I find this code? sorry, "sandbox" is wh-sandbox in svn on sourceforge. as near as i can determine it is a branch off build-improvements. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotC9-0002gu-5O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:59:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotC6-0002eO-R6 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:59:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotC5-0002cJ-6k - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:59:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GotC5-0002bx-1f - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:59:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GotC4-000789-IS - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:59:36 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GotAh-0000QX-00; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:58:11 +0100 -Subject: Re: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet -To: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:58:11 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet > in gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet > { @@ -80870,45 +54123,11 @@ results. Gold version reported no matches in the header. You may need other fixes to actually see search results (and notice the problem). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotWc-0003Bt-TG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:20:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotWb-00039n-7f - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:20:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotWZ-000377-46 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:20:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GotWY-00036p-S4 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:20:46 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GotWX-0005Lq-3w - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:20:45 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAS3KWSl029859 - for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:20:32 -0500 -Received: (qmail 29394 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2006 03:13:39 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 28 Nov 2006 03:13:39 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAS32oc00329; - Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:02:50 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:02:50 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:58:11 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet -Cc: list > > in gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet > > { @@ -80953,38 +54172,11 @@ documentation for the change. quite curious that this code never worked and nobody noticed. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotxY-0000O5-P9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:48:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotxT-0000Jm-S9 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:48:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GotxR-0000Hy-I7 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:48:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GotxR-0000Ho-84 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:48:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GorOy-00030o-T4 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:04:49 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gooyw-0006c1-UW - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:29:47 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GoosL-0004yA-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:22:57 +0100 -Subject: Re: sman and X libraries -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:22:57 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: sman and X libraries Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Gosh. Everything built OK for me. I must have fumble the commit @@ -80993,38 +54185,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: OK, 325 works for me. And sman uses now no X libraries. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GouBl-0004VS-DI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:03:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GouBi-0004TW-9R - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:03:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GouBg-0004Rn-M5 - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:03:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GouBg-0004Rc-1b - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:03:16 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.29] (helo=mail209.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoldH-0006Zt-5W - for list; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:55:11 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail209.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kARIsUNX004257; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:54:44 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start +Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:54:24 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin -Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:54:24 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 27, 2006 1:02 PM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -81067,45 +54232,11 @@ X11 applications under Windows because the look and feel is so different. So I think we want at least AXIOMsys to run natively without cygwin or the cygwin libraries. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goxhs-0001qC-7R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:48:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goxhd-0001gW-Kj - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:48:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goxha-0001eG-Bx - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:48:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoxhZ-0001dJ-GH - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:48:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GoxhY-0002xD-3g - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:48:24 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GoxhM-0001N6-0F; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:48:12 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GoxhL-0002Vl-VH; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:48:11 +0100 -To: Francois Maltey -Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric - functions. -From: Martin Rubey Date: 28 Nov 2006 08:48:11 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: The Gosper algorithm for sum of hypergeometric functions. Dear Francois, @@ -81114,12 +54245,12 @@ questions. I'll try to answer at least the quickies: Francois Maltey writes: -> Are they all hypergeometrics ?=20 +> Are they all hypergeometrics ? > this means that u(n+1) / u(n) is an alg=C3=A9braic fraction No. If we are talking about -sum(u(n), n =3D 1.. m), +sum(u(n), n = 1.. m), it means that u(n+1) / u(n) is rational (i.e., a fraction of two polynomial= s) @@ -81127,30 +54258,25 @@ in n. > Then can I recognize << with my eyes >> the hypergeometric series ? -You "only" need to check whether u(n+1) / u(n) is rational. As Waldek point= -ed +You "only" need to check whether u(n+1) / u(n) is rational. As Waldek pointed out, this is not always possible. You have to stay in "computable" domains, i.e., domains where you can test for zero. For example, the domain of arithmetic expressions is not computable: there cannot be an algorithm that -decides whether some expression is zero. Algebraic numbers, Polynomials ove= -r a +decides whether some expression is zero. Algebraic numbers, Polynomials over a computable domain, polynomially recursive sequences over a computable domain are examples of computable domains. -> Martin, I'm sorry but I don't understand what your package do,=20 +> Martin, I'm sorry but I don't understand what your package do, -It "guesses" an expression / recurrence for the n-th term of a sequence, gi= -ven +It "guesses" an expression / recurrence for the n-th term of a sequence, given the first few terms. For example, guess([0,1,2,3,4,5]) will answer "n". -If you happen to know that your sequence is generated by a polynomial, and = -you +If you happen to know that your sequence is generated by a polynomial, and you have a bound for the degree, you are done: just plug in the first degree+1 values and you'll get it. In principle we can mimick Zeilbergers algorithm -(although not very efficiently) this way: compute a bound for order and deg= -ree +(although not very efficiently) this way: compute a bound for order and degree of your recurrence and supply enough values to guess the sequence. > And I don't find your package on my silver axiom. @@ -81160,120 +54286,87 @@ MathAction/GuessingFormulas and compile them. You'll get documentation in HyperDoc then. > My aim is to force axiom to compute theses exercices about series. ->=20 +> > Thanks a lot if you accept to drive me inside theses algorithms. ->=20 -> sum (n^2 * x^n, n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- YES +> +> sum (n^2 * x^n, n=0..%plusInfinity) -- YES at least my Axiom doesn't know to sum to infinity. I have to say -(4) -> sum (n^2 * x^n,n=3D0..m) +(4) -> sum (n^2 * x^n,n=0..m) 2 3 2 2 2 m 2 (m x + (- 2m - 2m + 1)x + (m + 2m + 1)x)x - x - x (4) ------------------------------------------------------- 3 2 x - 3x + 3x - 1 - Type: Expression Integ= -er + Type: Expression Integer -and then I would like to say limit(%, m=3D%plusInfinity). Axiom responds wi= -th +and then I would like to say limit(%, m=%plusInfinity). Axiom responds with "failed", of course, since it doesn't know that x < 1... -> sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=3D0..%plusInfinity) -- no +> sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=0..%plusInfinity) -- no -(28) -> l :=3D [sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=3D0..m)::FRAC POLY INT for m in= - 0..15]; +(28) -> l := [sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=0..m)::FRAC POLY INT for m in 0..15]; - Type: List Fraction Polynomial Integ= -er + Type: List Fraction Polynomial Integer (29) -> guessPRec l (29) [ [ - function =3D + function = BRACKET f(n): 2 (n + 8n + 15)f(n + 2) - +=20 + + 2 2 2 - ((- n - 6n - 8)x - n - 8n - 15)f(n + 1) + (n + 6n + 8)x = -f(n) - =3D + ((- n - 6n - 8)x - n - 8n - 15)f(n + 1) + (n + 6n + 8)x f(n) + = 0 , 1 3x + 8 - f(0)=3D -,f(1)=3D ------ + f(0)= -,f(1)= ------ 3 24 , - order=3D 0] + order= 0] ] You can now, of course, "automatically" check whether this recurrence is -correct: just replacs f(n) with sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=3D0..m) and do = -the +correct: just replacs f(n) with sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=0..m) and do the calculation. However, Axiom cannot do the necessary simplifications yet: -(31) -> g m =3D=3D sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=3D0..m) - Type: Vo= -id -(32) -> (n^2+8*n+15)*g(n+2) + ((-n^2-6*n-8)*x-n^2-8*n-15)*g(n+1)+(n^2+6*n+8= -)*x*g(n) +(31) -> g m == sum (x^n / (n+1) / (n+3), n=0..m) + Type: Void +(32) -> (n^2+8*n+15)*g(n+2) + _ + ((-n^2-6*n-8)*x-n^2-8*n-15)*g(n+1)+(n^2+6*n+8)*x*g(n) (32) n n 2 --+ x (n + 6n + 8)x> ----------- --+ 2 - n=3D 0 n + 4n + 3 - +=20 + n= 0 n + 4n + 3 + + n + 1 n 2 2 --+ x ((- n - 6n - 8)x - n - 8n - 15) > ----------- --+ 2 - n=3D 0 n + 4n + 3 - +=20 + n= 0 n + 4n + 3 + + n + 2 n 2 --+ x (n + 8n + 15) > ----------- --+ 2 - n=3D 0 n + 4n + 3 - Type: Expression Integ= -er - - - -Martin - - - + n= 0 n + 4n + 3 + Type: Expression Integer \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoyqG-0007SK-JZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:01:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GoyqF-0007RN-1B - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:01:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Goyq9-0007P0-Pj - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:01:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Goyq7-0007Nf-AY - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:01:20 -0500 -Received: from [62.218.130.236] (helo=mail.xmt.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Goyq6-0004QG-Eq - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:01:18 -0500 -Received: (qmail 6528 invoked by uid 89); 28 Nov 2006 09:01:01 -0000 +Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:01:01 +0100 From: Gernot Hueber To: Ralf Ralf Hemmecke -Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:01:01 +0100 -Cc: list, axiom-mail@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] NNI to SingleInteger Hi Ralf, @@ -81340,53 +54433,12 @@ test(i: INT):INT == { > Furthermore, Tuple in Axiom has the function "select" for accessing the > n-th element of the tuple. Unfortunately, "select" is a reserved keyword > in Aldor. What should I do? -> -> Thank you in advance. -> -> Ralf -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-mail mailing list -> Axiom-mail@nongnu.org -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-mail - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gozrv-000181-UE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:07:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gozrt-000164-94 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:07:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gozrs-00014m-EL - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:07:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gozrs-00014P-3I - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:07:12 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gozrr-00053j-NR - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:07:11 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9908341271; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:07:10 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASA1JuX018188; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:01:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASA1JBp018187; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:01:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -Subject: Re: sman and X libraries -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 28 Nov 2006 11:01:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: sman and X libraries Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -81404,39 +54456,12 @@ Thanks for the update! \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp06j-0004PS-27 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:22:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp06g-0004MX-ND - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:22:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp06W-0004D4-T1 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:22:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp06V-0004CQ-9I - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:22:19 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp06T-0007uV-PM - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:22:18 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8742E4F45E; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:22:10 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASAGVTm018568; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:16:38 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASAGVCN018567; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:16:31 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 28 Nov 2006 11:16:31 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -81471,37 +54496,11 @@ I'll install a cross-compiling environment linux-x-mingw and use that for further investigation. And I'll tackle the mingw/cygwin issue much later when time permits. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp529-0000Y0-FA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:38:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp527-0000V9-ST - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:38:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp525-0000Pk-Le - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:38:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp525-0000PV-HY - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:38:05 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp525-000525-CA - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:38:05 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kASFbgi0006842; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:37:56 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:37:32 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin -Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:37:32 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 28, 2006 5:17 AM Gaby wrote: > @@ -81588,47 +54587,13 @@ but I am interested in seeing how far you get. I keep hoping that some day the Axiom project will attract a really experienced Windows Developer... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp5Yo-0006D8-JH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:11:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp5Ym-0006Bi-O6 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:11:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp5Yj-00068z-N4 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:11:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp5Yj-00068p-I6 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:11:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp5Yj-0007i3-7H - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:11:49 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A10411D8; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:11:46 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASG61bB025431; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:06:04 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASG61se025430; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:06:01 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 28 Nov 2006 17:06:01 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -81696,45 +54661,11 @@ mingw/cygwin (secondary). I too hope -- because I have no intention to become an experienced Windows developer (I don't have the time). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp5pz-0005Wp-9Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:29:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp5pw-0005Rt-9q - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:29:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp5pr-0005JB-Tw - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:29:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp5pr-0005It-O2 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:29:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp5pq-0005Us-S4 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:29:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11164107E; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:29:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASGNnBm025615; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:23:51 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASGNnNc025614; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:23:49 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 28 Nov 2006 17:23:48 +0100 -Cc: list - -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: - +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin [...] @@ -81743,44 +54674,11 @@ Cc: list That was predictable. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp618-0005Eu-MO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:41:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp618-0005Ep-0B - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:41:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp615-0005E5-Ga - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:41:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp615-0005E0-DB - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:41:07 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp615-0000LX-8d - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:41:07 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kASGekYH015759 - for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:40:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30521 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2006 16:40:47 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 28 Nov 2006 16:40:47 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kASGUPd01229; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:30:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:30:25 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 28 Nov 2006 17:23:48 +0100) Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - -Cc: list > | And I can not obtain build-improvements from Google Code because we > | long ago exceeded the maximum allowed capacity of that site @@ -81799,45 +54697,11 @@ no additional space (or time, since GIT will not rsync files that are duplicates). Surely Axiom will fit in a gig of disk space. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp678-0004fV-Gg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:47:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp677-0004dF-0c - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:47:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp671-0004PY-EZ - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:47:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp671-0004PU-BC - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:47:15 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp670-0001mv-4i - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:47:14 -0500 -Received: (qmail 8854 invoked by uid 7797); 28 Nov 2006 16:43:59 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.050349 secs); 28 Nov 2006 16:43:59 -0000 - Gabriel Dos Reis, list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 28 Nov 2006 16:43:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:47:23 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements version control on MacOS -Cc: list Bill Page wrote: @@ -81862,48 +54726,11 @@ svk sync mirrors the whole svn repository, but it's files are named after the revision numbers. I guess it will work if you don't try to check out a version with the name conflicts. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6F0-0005cU-HH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:55:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6Ey-0005at-Pq - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:55:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6Ex-0005Yy-A3 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:55:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp6Ew-0005Yh-QI - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:55:26 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp6Ew-0003vN-0I - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:55:26 -0500 -Received: (qmail 9209 invoked by uid 7797); 28 Nov 2006 16:52:15 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.054262 secs); 28 Nov 2006 16:52:15 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 28 Nov 2006 16:52:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:55:39 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - <200611281630.kASGUPd01229@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list root wrote: @@ -81926,46 +54753,11 @@ trunk/ $ du -sh ~/.svk/remote 364M /Users/humberto/.svk/remote --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6P5-00047e-B0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:05:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6P3-00045S-5z - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:05:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6P0-000431-UL - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:05:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp6P0-00042c-E5 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:05:50 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.186] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp6Oz-0006Wg-FG - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:05:49 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so3995379nfb - for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:05:44 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=M4WM4schNQpnNBb/AgUWWIKGZc5vSA9wRiWe1ec4ppWOLfFcTlOqn2Sd0Ra+/KAs6pV9NsFann+OAc/OEEv2+4hsGH2y5VaX+JePMAS/KwGlE4lDmaD4eKoTICHeTNOqcVJHEnPyD9amfJJqZrzdr6Z0FTB+PNSuFeK9RvL4BEY= -Received: by 10.82.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr211507bud.1164733544368; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:05:44 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:05:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:05:43 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - - <200611281630.kASGUPd01229@localhost.localdomain> - <456C6A0B.2030109@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list Hi Bill, @@ -81978,47 +54770,11 @@ Hi Bill, In google, what is trunk and what is silver??? Isn't one of them redundant? Sorry I lost track of the new schema for the repos. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6RU-0006HO-Qd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:08:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6RS-0006EX-40 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:08:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6RQ-0006DK-7Z - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:08:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp6RP-0006D1-UR - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:08:20 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp6RO-00079O-JN - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:08:19 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kASH84D7004299 - for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:08:04 -0500 -Received: (qmail 15579 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2006 17:08:05 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 28 Nov 2006 17:08:05 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kASGvh501262; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:57:44 -0500 +\start Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:57:44 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Zuazaga on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:55:39 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - <200611281630.kASGUPd01229@localhost.localdomain> - <456C6A0B.2030109@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list > > I thought SVN only copies files when they are changed > > so branches should not be expensive since they store @@ -82043,36 +54799,11 @@ That seems about right. Arch axiom--main--1--patch-50 reports 305M GIT for the same tree reports 135M -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6aE-00012v-Nw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:17:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6aD-00012Z-MA - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:17:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6aB-00011Y-5V - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:17:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp6aA-00011M-ST - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:17:22 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.80] (helo=mail260.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp6a9-0001bI-VT - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:17:22 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail260.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kASHGTmM015042; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:16:44 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:16:19 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin -Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:16:19 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 28, 2006 11:30 AM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -82165,39 +54896,12 @@ Bill Page. > > (Remember, do an https:// checkout if you intend to commit changes; > http:// checkouts produce read-only working copies.) -> -> - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6iW-0008GS-Vs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:26:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6iV-0008FA-GB - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:25:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6iT-0008E2-M9 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:25:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp6iT-0008Dk-Bd - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:25:57 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp6iS-0004lO-3i - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:25:56 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kASHPbP3010396; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:25:47 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Alfredo Portes'" Alfredo Portes -Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:25:28 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Alfredo Portes +Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin On November 28, 2006 12:06 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: > @@ -82236,47 +54940,11 @@ this, probably the best thing would be to contact Ben and discuss it with him. Maybe he would be willing to manually re-populate the Google repository again. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6ts-0003KH-IY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:37:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6tq-0003I9-Hs - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:37:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp6to-0003GB-R3 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:37:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp6to-0003G1-LQ - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:37:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp6to-0008NL-0Q - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:37:40 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kASHbGPp028730 - for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:37:20 -0500 -Received: (qmail 11566 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2006 17:37:17 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 28 Nov 2006 17:37:17 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kASHQu801293; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:26:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:26:56 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -Cc: list > "GIT only copies files when the checksums differ". Are you sure? > Are checksums that reliable? Can you give me a reference? But I @@ -82304,46 +54972,13 @@ if changes occur. I'm not sure what SVN does. You can see it in the numbers I just sent. Arch takes 305M, GIT takes 135M for the same copy of Axiom. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp7cc-00075a-Ov - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:23:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp7cb-00074H-SN - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:23:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp7ca-00072q-BU - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:23:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp7ca-00072m-8E - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:23:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp7ca-0005Sq-1Y - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:23:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA8C41089; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:23:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASIIDWM028881; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASIID7G028880; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:18:13 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - - <200611281630.kASGUPd01229@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:18:13 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | And I can not obtain build-improvements from Google Code because we | > | long ago exceeded the maximum allowed capacity of that site @@ -82365,45 +55000,13 @@ in common (I think they must have 3 distinct copies of Axiom in the repo), and there were lots of property changes on almost every file. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp7gh-0000bV-Cj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:28:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp7gg-0000Zz-1H - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:28:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp7ge-0000X1-3Y - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:28:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp7gd-0000Wa-Om - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:28:07 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp7gd-0006Lx-N4 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:28:07 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AC740ED6; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:28:05 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASIMKXv029132; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:22:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASIMKXa029131; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:22:20 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 28 Nov 2006 19:22:20 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -82417,33 +55020,11 @@ Cc: list Indeed. I'm of the opinion that keeping GCL as a tarball in the repo is a mistake. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp95N-0002Z7-Px - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:57:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp95M-0002Xw-I0 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:57:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gp95K-0002WK-Tt - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:57:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gp95K-0002WG-O8 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:57:42 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp95K-00029r-Hs - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:57:42 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gp93u-0005EY-00; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:56:14 +0100 -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -To: Bill Page Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:56:14 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin Bill Page wrote: > On November 28, 2006 12:06 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -82481,45 +55062,11 @@ Bill Page wrote: Google shows revision 214. It looks that we exceeded Google quota by creating 'silver'. - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpAkr-00053J-Im - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpAkp-0004zx-68 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpAkm-0004wL-QX - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpAkm-0004vZ-EA - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:36 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpAkl-0004Y4-6H - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 530206AB53; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:06 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A459A6B1A6; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:04 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin +\start Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:44:01 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements on cygwin -Thread-Index: AccTJ3r7MLSV88wYRqOXfrnvuAfKCAABXacg From: Bill Page -To: "Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman -Cc: list +To: Ben Collins-Sussman +Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin Ben, @@ -82543,17 +55090,17 @@ Regards, Bill Page. On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:56 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > > But because of the space problems on Google I am not certain > > that the Google versions of these are identical to the > > SourceForge versions. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > Google shows revision 214. It looks that we exceeded Google quota > by creating 'silver'. ->=20 +> Yes, I think that is correct. Here is my attempt at post mortem: @@ -82603,70 +55150,70 @@ Bill Page. > -----Original Message----- -> From: codesite-noreply@google.com=20 -> [mailto:codesite-noreply@google.com]=20 +> From: codesite-noreply@google.com +> [mailto:codesite-noreply@google.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:27 PM > To: Bill Page > Subject: [axiom commit] r214 - silver_old ->=20 +> > Author: synthesis.anikast.ca > Date: Wed Nov 15 10:40:08 2006 > New Revision: 214 ->=20 +> > Removed: > silver_old/ ->=20 +> > Log: > not needed ->=20 +> ... > -----Original Message----- -> From: codesite-noreply@google.com=20 -> [mailto:codesite-noreply@google.com]=20 +> From: codesite-noreply@google.com +> [mailto:codesite-noreply@google.com] > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:26 AM > To: Bill Page > Subject: [axiom commit] r200 - trunk2 ->=20 +> > Author: synthesis.anikast.ca > Date: Fri Oct 27 01:25:47 2006 > New Revision: 200 ->=20 +> > Added: > trunk2/ > Modified: > / (props changed) ->=20 +> > Log: > Create /trunk2 ->=20 +> + -=20 > -----Original Message----- -> From: codesite-noreply@google.com=20 -> [mailto:codesite-noreply@google.com]=20 +> From: codesite-noreply@google.com +> [mailto:codesite-noreply@google.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:29 AM > To: Bill Page > Subject: [axiom commit] r199 - branches/build-improvements/src/interp ->=20 +> > Author: synthesis.anikast.ca > Date: Thu Oct 26 01:28:07 2006 > New Revision: 199 ->=20 +> > Modified: > / (props changed) > branches/build-improvements/src/interp/ChangeLog.build-improvements > branches/build-improvements/src/interp/Makefile.in > branches/build-improvements/src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet > branches/build-improvements/src/interp/debugsys.lisp.pamphlet ->=20 +> > Log: ->=20 +> > * debugsys.lisp.pamphlet (build-interpsys): Adjust pathname to > files that are local to the current build directory. ->=20 +> > * Makefile.pamphlet: Remove individual rules for making object > codes out of Boot pamphlet using bootsys. > (BOOT_TO_LISP, COMPILE_LISP): New. @@ -82678,13 +55225,13 @@ Bill Page. > -----Original Message----- -> From: Ben Collins-Sussman [mailto:Ben Collins-Sussman]=20 +> From: Ben Collins-Sussman [mailto:Ben Collins-Sussman] > Sent: October 9, 2006 2:14 PM > To: Bill Page > Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis; list > Subject: re: [M#73697383] Re: Disk-quota Request ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > On 10/6/06, Bill Page > Bill Page wrote: > > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -82695,64 +55242,30 @@ Bill Page. > > .. but then how would help debug the Google, svnsync, svk, and svn > > programs? ;) > > ->=20 -> Enough is enough. You guys have been more than patient as=20 +> +> Enough is enough. You guys have been more than patient as > our guinea pigs! ->=20 +> > I just rsync'd your sourceforge svn repository down to my local box > (165MB), made a dumpfile from that, then did an 'svnadmin load' in our > datacenter. Disturbingly, it still took two hours to load the history > and used up 381MB of space. I don't know whether our size-counting > code is buggy, or if our Bigtable storage schema is just really that > bad, I'll be investigating. It's not your problem. :-) ->=20 +> > You're now live... all 176 revisions are up and happy. You're only > using 381 of 750MB of quota, so you should be fine for a good while. ->=20 +> > Let me know if you have any more problems. ->=20 +> > (Remember, do an https:// checkout if you intend to commit changes; > http:// checkouts produce read-only working copies.) ->=20 ->=20 - - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpBLR-0000Gz-3G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:22:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpBLN-0000BQ-I6 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:22:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpBLK-00005Z-Bu - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:22:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpBLJ-000056-W7 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:22:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpBLJ-0007Pe-Ty - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:22:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9F140F82; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:22:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASMGd3x001266; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:16:41 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASMGdar001265; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:16:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f + +\start +Date: 28 Nov 2006 23:16:38 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Nov 2006 23:16:38 +0100 -Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman, list Bill Page writes: @@ -82772,51 +55285,11 @@ your famous picture is correct. It effectively is a _duplicated_ as opposed to being shared. For me, that explains the sudden surge. --- Gaby - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpBSl-0006RW-7v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:30:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpBSj-0006PW-3J - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:30:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpBSg-0006MP-OB - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:30:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpBSg-0006Lq-CM - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:29:58 -0500 -Received: from [216.239.33.17] (helo=smtp-out.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GpBSf-0001C6-2q - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:29:57 -0500 -Received: from spaceape14.eur.corp.google.com (spaceape14.eur.corp.google.com - [172.28.16.148]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id kASMTmhG011144 - for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:29:48 GMT -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to: - mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: - content-disposition:references; - b=BYoevsLlP7VRLQCx6w5GgZPHeP+cFrxlr6iJJwKE+VPi3QhpkgXRVq7NYRNO1nPdz - 35kJYzEzIScHBJIGUqrRw== -Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wxdi29.prod.google.com [10.70.135.29]) - by spaceape14.eur.corp.google.com with ESMTP id kASMTl3d017916 - for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:29:47 GMT -Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1931166wxd - for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:29:46 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.90.79.6 with SMTP id c6mr1447050agb.1164752986836; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:29:46 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.90.120.2 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:29:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:29:46 -0600 -From: "Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Ben Collins-Sussman +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - -Cc: list On 28 Nov 2006 23:16:38 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -82847,44 +55320,13 @@ wasn't a normal subversion branch! I can reset the google repository to revision 0 if you'd like. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpC1Z-0007Zz-8a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:06:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpC1W-0007Xi-Mg - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:05:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpC1U-0007VT-As - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:05:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpC1U-0007VK-2q - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:05:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpC1T-0002Hh-Je - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:05:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2D34F3DD; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:05:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kASN0D01002020; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:00:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kASN0D85002019; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:00:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - - <944683b40611281429v6474a059k278c72893019a6d8@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 29 Nov 2006 00:00:13 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ben Collins-Sussman +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman writes: +Ben Collins-Sussman writes: | On 28 Nov 2006 23:16:38 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -82920,53 +55362,21 @@ That would be very much appreciated. Bill, before your mirror to the next new repo, please let me make sure that we don't store gcl and noweb as .tar.gz anymore. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCAJ-0005u4-EG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:15:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCAG-0005qx-Mj - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:15:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCAF-0005oP-9L - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:14:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpCAE-0005nl-Vi - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:14:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpCAE-0005Pk-Dw - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:14:58 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id CDB3E692A5; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:14:57 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4F1B168933; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:14:56 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:14:57 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements on cygwin -Thread-Index: AccTPMHYw5Rr2qSFT1ST2DVLtaNALAAAHheQ From: Bill Page -To: "Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman, - "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Ben Collins-Sussman, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:30 PM Ben Collins-Sussman wrote: ->=20 +> > On 28 Nov 2006 23:16:38 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > Bill Page writes: > > > > [...] > > -> > | Up to revision 199 (October 26), the 'svk smerge'=20 +> > | Up to revision 199 (October 26), the 'svk smerge' > > | transactions from the axiom-developer.org server that are > > | intended to synchronize the Google repository with the > > | SourceForge repository were properly processed by Google. @@ -82974,8 +55384,8 @@ On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:30 PM Ben Collins-Sussman wrote: > > | did not automatically create the correct branch structure > > at Google when we created 'silver' on SVN SourceForge. > > -> > I believe 'silver' was created from "scratch", so has not=20 -> > ancestry in common with any other branch in the repository --=20 +> > I believe 'silver' was created from "scratch", so has not +> > ancestry in common with any other branch in the repository -- > > if my understand of your famous picture is correct. It > > effectively is a "repository" within the repository -- > > essentially, files are _duplicated_ as opposed to being shared. @@ -82991,7 +55401,7 @@ of having two roots in the repository? For me, the mystery is why 'svk smerge' did not successfully mirror our creation of this new branch. ->=20 +> > Yep, that would explain it. Branches are supposed to be cheap > copies; they're just a hardlink within the repository, so they're > nearly instantaneous to create and take essentially zero space @@ -83048,7 +55458,7 @@ more knowledgeable than me in order to avoid yet another disk space catastrophe. > I can reset the google repository to revision 0 if you'd like. ->=20 +> You may recall that more than this was necessary since the way the svk smerge mirror synchronization process works it seems to @@ -83056,55 +55466,23 @@ result in much greater disk space ussage then just 'svnadmin load'. So just reseting it to 0 may not be enough. We went around this problem several times before until you decided to use svnadmin. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCMz-000464-Cf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:28:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCMu-00042t-Rs - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:28:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCMp-0003yt-Ja - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:28:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpCMp-0003yW-7O - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpCMp-0002FS-1l - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:27:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4A5466C59E; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:27:58 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5A15E6C58F; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:27:57 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:28:00 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements on cygwin -Thread-Index: AccTQcXinO5PZih2Q3GTlS7DMqToGwAAX9RA From: Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, "Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Ben Collins-Sussman +Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:00 PM Gaby wrote: > Ben Collins-Sussman writes: -> ...=20 +> ... > | I can reset the google repository to revision 0 if you'd like. ->=20 +> > That would be very much appreciated. ->=20 +> > Bill, before your mirror to the next new repo, please let me > make sure that we don't store gcl and noweb as .tar.gz anymore. ->=20 +> Yes, we discussed this previously and I had agreed to commit a change so that both gcl and noweb appear as source in a new 'tools' @@ -83126,43 +55504,12 @@ likely to cause excessive disk space utilization again. However I think that once populated via 'svnadmin load', using svk smerge is probably ok provided I don't decide to do something stupid again... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCiu-0006Xy-KM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:50:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCis-0006Vo-FO - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:50:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpCiq-0006Uh-Ir - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:50:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpCiq-0006Uc-Ef - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:50:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpCiq-0007U2-F1 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:50:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8671B40E8F; 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Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpFyh-0000Z3-FG - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpFyg-0000Yo-Sf - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpFyg-0000Yg-KO - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:18 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpFyg-0000HJ-F8 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:18 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E28326C163; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:17 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 247B86C0EA; - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:17 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:19:17 -0500 -Thread-Topic: the repository story (was: build-improvements on cygwin) -Thread-Index: AccTW/L3xUMrbz/PSqWIk8CJ9bASRQAAVn/w From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch, - Bill Page -Cc: list -Subject: the repository story (was: build-improvements on - cygwin) +To: Waldek Hebisch, Bill Page +Subject: the repository story (was: build-improvements on cygwin) I've changed the subject to better reflect the subject and omitted Ben from the Cc: list for now since he is probably not interested in our detailed discussions on this subject. On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:12 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page wrote: > > To understand my motivation it is important to note that the > > svn mirror of the silver repository contains the history of > > the development in arch. While the existing trunk contains > > only the snapshot history from cvs. > > ->=20 +> > AFAICS the current 'silver' was created as a big hunk in revision > 208. Revisions 209 and 210 added a few changes (there are a few > other patches, but they reflect changes after cloning form arch) @@ -83457,11 +55710,11 @@ exceptions or do other people have similar problems? How can we agree on a single host and a single repository system? -> ...=20 +> ... > I tried to check where disk space go. After looking at rsynced copy > of SF repository I see that most space is taken due to following > revisions: ->=20 +> > 201 80 Mb failed arcs clone ??? > 208 80 Mb current 'silver' > 252 @@ -83470,7 +55723,7 @@ How can we agree on a single host and a single repository system? > 115 > 102 > 31 each 20Mb -- snapshots of gcl-2.6.8 ->=20 +> 200-201 and 205-212 where both failed attempts. (I kept getting the name wrong in the Tailor configuration file.) I finally got it right @@ -83489,49 +55742,15 @@ axiom--silver--1? I believe Tim stated that he was no longer prepared to maintain this branch anyway. So I assume "yes". By 252 to 31 do you mean there are 6 copies of the gcl-2.6.8pre -tarball? I.e. 6 x 20 Mb =3D 120 Mb. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - +tarball? I.e. 6 x 20 Mb = 120 Mb. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpGK2-0000hK-Bx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:41:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpGK0-0000f5-JW - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:41:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpGJy-0000cV-RL - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:41:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpGJy-0000cO-Np - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:41:18 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpGJx-0004pJ-VO - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:41:18 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A49A4F3BC; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:40:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAT3ZDRD006347; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:35:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAT3ZDBH006346; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:35:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman -Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin - - <944683b40611281733h1adfcdfdxbd5fabdc5aa8f643@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 29 Nov 2006 04:35:12 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ben Collins-Sussman +Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -"Ben Collins-Sussman" Ben Collins-Sussman writes: +Ben Collins-Sussman writes: | On 29 Nov 2006 00:45:01 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -83548,45 +55767,11 @@ that has more SCM than active developers :-/ (But, hey, I was the one who cannot work with arch; and we needed something that can handle changeset, so CVS was no option). -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpGTk-00008x-Ku - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:51:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpGTi-000069-KE - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:51:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpGTh-00005Q-Oy - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:51:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpGTh-00005K-I6 - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:51:21 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpGTh-0007NC-Gw - for list; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:51:21 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15F04F3B0; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:51:17 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAT3jbAw006444; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:45:40 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAT3jbqn006443; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:45:37 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 29 Nov 2006 04:45:37 +0100 -Cc: list -Subject: Re: the repository story (was: build-improvements - on cygwin) +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: the repository story (was: build-improvements on cygwin) Bill Page writes: @@ -83649,39 +55834,10 @@ Do we do that before or after my changes I'm testing? My changes means we now have gcl/ and noweb/ toplevel subdirectories, and the corresponding tarballs are gone; lsp/ is renamed to src/lisp. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpMZG-0004aL-LS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:21:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpMZE-0004YN-S2 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:21:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpMZD-0004WH-FL - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:21:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpMZD-0004W1-96 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:21:27 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.184] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpMZD-0007Fh-0y - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:21:27 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so4400550nfb - for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:21:25 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=iGorYLxcdZGy1kiFfgRxs6SY1Yn1LTVmbQywLpFWXo/oQFow3s9TUGLtCqiycbxG6yrJPLQ8JGpmdswTlQlXYbj2lE+N36z9EGJALxC2w+fSgMZEyf47Hc+/r5NzLziwh2cC/oY2SgPQmUixyujGzdqv+OqxcGyS772hOV7rPes= -Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr369787buc.1164795685617; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:21:25 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:21:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:21:25 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page, - "Timothy Daly" Tim Daly -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Bill Page Subject: AxiomBinaries Hi Bill, @@ -83693,36 +55849,11 @@ created the table similar to what Tim proposed. Maybe also keep the current AxiomBinaries as AxiomBinariesOld for the user comments it contains. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpNEu-0007wy-7W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:04:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpNEs-0007wC-Ay - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:04:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpNEq-0007us-Km - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:04:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpNEq-0007uV-8J - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:04:28 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpNEp-0001PH-Kt - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:04:28 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GpNDO-0000rt-00; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:02:58 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:02:58 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list -Subject: Re: the repository story (was: build-improvements - on cygwin) +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: the repository story (was: build-improvements on cygwin) Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -83824,35 +55955,11 @@ somewhat fleaky, depending on little details it works or fails Also, I have a script that recreated many of book images. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpNes-0004GP-DD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:31:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpNeq-0004FC-G3 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:31:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpNep-0004EP-2Y - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:31:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpNeo-0004EL-Qx - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:31:18 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpNeo-00008g-Ox - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:31:18 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GpNdI-0003DS-00; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:29:44 +0100 -Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries -To: Alfredo Portes +\start Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:29:44 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Alfredo Portes +Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries > I wonder if the content of > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxDoyen is good enough to @@ -83878,53 +55985,19 @@ missess such information. settings should be part of wrapper script (automatically updated at installation time). Of course, this is really fault of given tarball... - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpOYR-0004T6-2g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpOYO-0004Rw-W6 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpOYN-0004RD-OM - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpOYN-0004R7-Iw - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:43 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpOYM-0006wX-Ve - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:43 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 72D686BC7A; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:42 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DA8446925B; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:40 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin +\start Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:28:38 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements on cygwin -Thread-Index: AccTE+n1rZb1KQLaSYW+hTd2kTotOAAJqIdQ From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements on cygwin On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:27 PM Tim Daly wrote: -> Bill Page asked:=20 +> Bill Page asked: > > "GIT only copies files when the checksums differ". Are you sure? > > Are checksums that reliable? Can you give me a reference? But I > > agree that GIT uses significantly less space than SVN (and -> > Mercurial uses even less).=20 +> > Mercurial uses even less). > Here is a reference: @@ -83936,7 +56009,7 @@ Mercurial is very similar: http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/Design except it also uses checksums to encode the object history. -=20 + > GIT computes the MD5SUM of each file and each subdirectory and of > the whole tree. Only subtrees or files which have different MD5SUMs > are every stored, copied or transmitted. Thus creating a copy and @@ -83945,11 +56018,11 @@ except it also uses checksums to encode the object history. > Actually SHA-1 hashes, not MD5, but the same principle applies. -=20 -> I know this works because I have switched to GIT for all of my=20 + +> I know this works because I have switched to GIT for all of my > personal work. Multiple copies of gcl-2.6.8pre.tgz take no additional > space or time to transmit. ->=20 +> The multiple copies of gcl-2.6.8pre that we have been talking about are nearly all slightly different pre-release versions. The @@ -83978,53 +56051,20 @@ require a centralized repository. SVN also stores a local copy of the repository. SVK uses this to allow distributed source code control. ->=20 -> You can see it in the numbers I just sent. Arch takes 305M,=20 +> +> You can see it in the numbers I just sent. Arch takes 305M, > GIT takes 135M for the same copy of Axiom. ->=20 +> You are right that GIT and Mercurial repositories take about 1/2 the space of equivalent Arch and SVN repositories. Darcs is usually intermediate between these two extremes. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpQII-0006B5-L1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:20:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpQIG-00068e-AW - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:20:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpQIC-00065C-Ll - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:20:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpQIC-00064r-6N - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:20:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpQIB-000672-Vr - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:20:08 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19F84146D; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:20:05 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kATEEGce015952; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:14:19 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kATEEGtK015951; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:14:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 29 Nov 2006 15:14:16 +0100 -Cc: list -Subject: Re: the repository story (was: build-improvements - on cygwin) +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: the repository story (was: build-improvements on cygwin) Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -84064,33 +56104,11 @@ Please sync mirrored path /axiom/branches/build-improvements first. when in fact my tree is up-to-date. I'll merge bits and pieces. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpSNc-0008Jz-Vc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:33:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpSNb-0008Ip-FX - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:33:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpSNa-0008IH-OU - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:33:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpSNa-0008I4-JY - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:33:50 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpSNZ-00046x-3S - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:33:49 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GpSMA-0002S8-00; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:32:22 +0100 -Subject: Re: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet -To: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:32:22 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet root wrote: > quite curious that this code never worked and nobody noticed. @@ -84107,42 +56125,11 @@ are not fixed for long time. I must say that IssueTracker paints a very bad picture of Axiom: numerous old unfixed bugs, many without any usefull comment. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpSon-0003UV-Vu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:01:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpSoi-0003Sa-LO - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:01:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpSog-0003RS-O0 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:01:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpSog-0003R7-33 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:01:50 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.169] (helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpSof-0003nF-En - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:01:49 -0500 -Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so1627530ugd - for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:01:48 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=LguoOqG5qfmH2Z2bTA+XEWbRS/OnY9XfXVCbiWjIt5eW2Ldy77jZjLyNsuJCCMGSgzMlRGnIV69pwLkCOhBiGDqz56iBbwlQFHr1inwmABdfNT5ATSEkn3SHhF3EC/ZEn9Refn4ZMJ6vOd4mEwbt3DlBEmzfUZB/TMbPhZoCSM8= -Received: by 10.82.190.2 with SMTP id n2mr629278buf.1164819708126; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:01:48 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:01:47 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:01:48 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries - -Cc: axiom-dev Thanks for the comments. @@ -84173,41 +56160,11 @@ Do you mean by using apt-get? Would this be corrected when the new build procedure is done? - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTA2-0002Qr-SE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:23:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTA1-0002PH-Iq - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:23:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpT9y-0002JQ-EU - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:23:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpT9y-0002J0-Ab - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:23:50 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpT9w-0001cN-Ts - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:23:49 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9157F4F462; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:23:37 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kATHI4qJ020207; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:18:06 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kATHI4vc020206; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:18:04 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Camm Maguire -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 29 Nov 2006 18:18:03 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org -Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: c stack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: c stack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) Camm Maguire writes: @@ -84251,64 +56208,28 @@ particular there is only one symbol, dsetq and it is defined. Yes, many people have suggested that it would be a good idea for Axiom to move to ANSI semantics. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTRY-0000lW-0Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:42:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTRV-0000k4-Ix - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:41:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTRU-0000in-UK - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:41:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpTRU-0000iO-DJ - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:41:56 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpTRU-0007YL-03 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:41:56 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4F5F26C529; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:41:55 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0EA606936F; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:41:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: AxiomBinaries Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:42:16 -0500 -Thread-Topic: AxiomBinaries -Thread-Index: AccT2R8rUazuwHPaSRWZQ1QwlvTTJAAAlEPg From: Bill Page -To: Alfredo Portes, - "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev - -=20 +To: Alfredo Portes, Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: AxiomBinaries > -----Original Message----- -> From:=20 -> axiom-developer-bounces+bill.page1=3Dsynthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu -=3Dsynthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of Alfredo Portes +> From: +> axiom-developer-bounces+bill.page1=synthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu +=synthesis.anikast.ca@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of Alfredo Portes > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:02 PM > To: Waldek Hebisch > Cc: axiom-dev > Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries ->=20 +> > Thanks for the comments. ->=20 +> > > Some comments: > > > > 1) The table looks really bad in Lynx (all tables look bad in Lynx, > > but this one is worse then average). ->=20 +> If you must use Lynx, then you should probably be reading the source format of the wiki pages rather than the rendered form. @@ -84324,16 +56245,16 @@ a text-only browser. No, I am sure that Lynx would just ignore the javascript, but there is nothing like that in these tables. The reStructuredText source format of the tables is rendered as common HTML. -=20 + > > 2) The page seen to equate "Linux" with "i386 Linux". I think we -> > should make clear an which architecture given tarball=20 +> > should make clear an which architecture given tarball > > works. Significant > > fraction of Linux users are on 64-bit systems and may prefer 64-bit > > binaries. ->=20 -> I forgot to add this, maybe because I did not see 64bit=20 +> +> I forgot to add this, maybe because I did not see 64bit > binaries in the old page, but I will make the distinction. ->=20 +> You need to think carefully about how to layout the information. I would suggest replacing the Gold and Silver heading with a @@ -84351,7 +56272,7 @@ I know people have built Axiom on both IA64 and amd64 (x86) platforms. We were hoping that many some of them might contribute a binary tarball for inclusion on the web site. So far, as far as I know only Tim and I have actually uploaded binaries. -=20 + > Do you mean by using apt-get? Debian has a large compile farm which can be configured to @@ -84360,12 +56281,12 @@ automatically post new binary versions from updated sources. There of course (or soon will be) also versions of Axiom for Solaris/sparc and OSX/PPC. ->=20 -> > 3) The page mention setting multiple enviroment variables. =20 +> +> > 3) The page mention setting multiple enviroment variables. > > IMHO such settings should be part of wrapper script > > (automatically updated at installation time). Of course, > > this is really fault of given tarball... ->=20 +> > Would this be corrected when the new build procedure is done? > @@ -84381,50 +56302,18 @@ with proper wrapper scripts and possibly also automatic installation programs (such as the one included now with the Axiom on Windows binary distribution. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTyI-0007Ds-I1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:15:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTyD-00079g-CV - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:15:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpTy7-00072u-Vi - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:15:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpTy7-00072V-KK - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:15:39 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpT87-0000vk-UV - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:21:56 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 630D26C598; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:21:55 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 37CB06C5B7; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:21:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:22:11 -0500 -Thread-Topic: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet -Thread-Index: AccT1CKQV11rLc+TRWCh2ZRiy6Z3qAABFDuw From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: gold/src/hyper/search.pamphlet On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:32 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > root wrote: > > quite curious that this code never worked and nobody noticed. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > Nothing strange. Axiom contains a lot of unfinished code (or even > pure junk) and this is one more such piece. I would not say that > nobody noticed -- my experience tells me that most users do not @@ -84441,8 +56330,8 @@ I agree. True. > I must say that IssueTracker paints a very bad picture of Axiom: -> numerous old unfixed bugs, many without any usefull comment.=20 ->=20 +> numerous old unfixed bugs, many without any usefull comment. +> On the contrary, I think it represents the true state of Axiom. I am sure that it even understates the case. There are many more @@ -84462,34 +56351,11 @@ as it could be. What suggestions do you have for improving the situation? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpU6E-0005yh-JP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:24:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpU6C-0005wm-Cr - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:24:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpU6A-0005ur-2l - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:23:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpU69-0005uf-Qg - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:23:57 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpTxl-0001IX-UM - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:15:19 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GpTwO-0002gd-00; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:13:52 +0100 -Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries -To: Alfredo Portes Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:13:52 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Alfredo Portes +Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries Alfredo Portes wrote: > > Also, it seems that Debian (and only Debian) has binaries for @@ -84506,44 +56372,11 @@ be considered 'unstable' (or work with different Debian version), but at the first glance it looks like "full coverage" (Camm probably can give an official statement about availability). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpUYI-000400-Dn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:53:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpUYG-0003xF-7e - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:53:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpUYD-0003sw-Fp - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpUYD-0003si-Az - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:57 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpUYD-000771-8I - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:57 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B092740FF4; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:52:54 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kATIlBdF022655; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:47:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kATIlBQe022654; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:47:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 29 Nov 2006 19:47:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 29 Nov 2006 19:47:11 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Bill Page writes: @@ -84570,40 +56403,11 @@ state where we can test on more plaforms without having to duplicate information or work. We are getting closer and closer to the goal. More the moment, I'm happing to have GCL ncluded as source code. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpV9O-0004d0-9q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:31:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpV9M-0004bx-I9 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:31:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpV9K-0004a9-N8 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:31:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpV9K-0004Zw-FB - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:31:18 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.168] (helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpV9K-0002jL-48 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:31:18 -0500 -Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so1667572ugd - for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:31:13 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=hbYJPa9YuJjFw0I6zocSRmS/gEkDEd1KviXEFyBNn9QvYZ4OGu0dnpZKE/UeOQeK2iO0Q57A1fV5qPPr1fmBgUmir+g593tsIu0k0LxNODjbY2qrVmSjReWlu1PS+1YYv8zfdVt2+SAaOkw6bTcdrAi3dg3lwnl6YcR1ETpndX4= -Received: by 10.82.141.4 with SMTP id o4mr661716bud.1164828672252; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:31:12 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:31:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:31:11 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Bill Page Subject: Re: AxiomBinaries - -Cc: axiom-dev > You need to think carefully about how to layout the information. > I would suggest replacing the Gold and Silver heading with a @@ -84618,51 +56422,23 @@ What is the release time frame for Axiom? I mean with this that if it is every assumes that the work done in Silver(gold to be) and its branches will be included in Gold. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVa4-0002OZ-J7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:58:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVa0-0002K1-Od - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:58:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVZx-0002FN-6N - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:58:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpVG8-0003NK-BB - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:38:20 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpVG7-0005DY-PY - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:38:20 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-28-149.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-28-149.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.134.149]) - by mwinf1919.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A9701C000A8; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:38:18 +0100 (CET) -Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: c - stack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - +\start Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:38:27 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: c +Cc: Camm Maguire Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 18:18 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit = : [...] ->=20 +> > Dear Camm, thank you very much for looking into this. > vmlisp.lisp has become a kind of black hole attracting all kinds of -> macros.=20 ->=20 +> macros. +> > We will make sure that that black hole stops growing, and in > particular there is only one symbol, dsetq and it is defined. @@ -84670,43 +56446,11 @@ Since you speak about this, the 'asec' function in vmlisp.lisp is defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated" this file some times ago, he probably fixed this issue. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVo5-0005nW-FZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:13:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVo2-0005kM-97 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:13:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVny-0005fT-DX - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:13:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpVny-0005f7-3B - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:13:18 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpVnx-0007hI-Nm - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:13:18 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F06041159; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:13:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kATK7Weu024588; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:07:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kATK7W0a024587; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:07:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 29 Nov 2006 21:07:32 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements on cygwin -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 29 Nov 2006 21:07:32 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -84733,123 +56477,63 @@ failures during the next update. You just have be patient ans start over again until the update is finished. I would still appreciate if you could wait more before starting the mirror to Google again. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVzY-0002Ec-9r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVzX-0002EG-J6 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpVzV-0002DN-Rx - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpVzV-0002DJ-OK - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpVzU-0003RV-NE - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3497D6BD77; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:11 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 8B76A6C842; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:03 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" -Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: cstack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:25:02 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: cstack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) -Thread-Index: AccT8MolUIYuVis1T+2t4tj8K1UZBAAAk+JQ From: Bill Page To: Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:38 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: ->=20 +> > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 18:18 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis a = =E9crit : > [...] ->=20 +> > > vmlisp.lisp has become a kind of black hole attracting all -> > kinds of macros.=20 -> >=20 +> > kinds of macros. +> > > > We will make sure that that black hole stops growing, and in > > particular there is only one symbol, dsetq and it is defined. ->=20 +> > Since you speak about this, the 'asec' function in vmlisp.lisp is -> defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated"=20 +> defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated" > this file some times ago, he probably fixed this issue. ->=20 +> You should pull the updated source from the src link here: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/VmlispLisp - -Regards, -Bill Pae. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpakE-0004bB-4K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpakB-0004Yv-KH - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpak9-0004Ve-Jv - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpak9-0004VM-BC - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:41 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpak8-0007ER-Qz - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:29:41 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-103-83.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-103-83.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.116.83]) - by mwinf1902.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CFFB61C0008E; - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 02:29:24 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: - cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page +\start Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 02:28:18 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation: cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) +Cc: Camm Maguire Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 15:25 -0500, Page, Bill a =E9crit : > On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:38 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 18:18 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9c= rit : > > [...] -> >=20 +> > > > > vmlisp.lisp has become a kind of black hole attracting all -> > > kinds of macros.=20 -> > >=20 +> > > kinds of macros. +> > > > > > We will make sure that that black hole stops growing, and in > > > particular there is only one symbol, dsetq and it is defined. -> >=20 +> > > > Since you speak about this, the 'asec' function in vmlisp.lisp is -> > defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated"=20 +> > defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated" > > this file some times ago, he probably fixed this issue. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > You should pull the updated source from the src link here: ->=20 +> > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/VmlispLisp ->=20 +> I'm going to suppress the Juergen Weiss's asec definition. @@ -84863,46 +56547,12 @@ And just for the fun, here is its definition : And no one sees the errors :-) -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbAZ-0006ws-Sc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:56:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbAX-0006uL-Up - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:56:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbAS-0006mz-HT - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:56:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpbAS-0006mZ-89 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:56:52 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpbAQ-0004kj-2y - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:56:52 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAU1uaxc013844 - for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:56:40 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12061 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2006 01:56:36 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 30 Nov 2006 01:56:36 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAU1k6f02805; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:46:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:46:06 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 02:39:17 +0100 (CET)) -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, list, - whebisch@users.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] flush - +Cc: Waldek Hebisch in fact, this is a known bug (see src/input/Makefile.pamphlet) and search for FLUSH. @@ -84945,82 +56595,50 @@ InternalPrintPackage(): Exports == Implementation where PRINC(coerce(s)@Symbol)$Lisp FLUSH()$Lisp - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbXz-0003OV-3G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:21:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbXx-0003MZ-Ph - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:21:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbXw-0003KV-U2 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:21:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpbXw-0003K3-Kb - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:21:08 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpbXw-0002ff-6R - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:21:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 703B36A373; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:20:50 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 65F876A215; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:20:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" -Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation:cstack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:20:51 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation:cstack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) -Thread-Index: AccUHvddZA6Ud5NXSDKL/PMgns4wBQABhaJA From: Bill Page To: Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation:cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:28 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: ->=20 +> > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 15:25 -0500, Page, Bill a =E9crit : > > On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:38 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -> > >=20 -> > > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 18:18 +0100, Gabriel Dos=20 +> > > +> > > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 18:18 +0100, Gabriel Dos > Reis a =E9crit : > > > [...] -> > >=20 +> > > > > > > vmlisp.lisp has become a kind of black hole attracting all -> > > > kinds of macros.=20 -> > > >=20 +> > > > kinds of macros. +> > > > > > > > We will make sure that that black hole stops growing, and in > > > > particular there is only one symbol, dsetq and it is defined. -> > >=20 +> > > > > > Since you speak about this, the 'asec' function in vmlisp.lisp is -> > > defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated"=20 +> > > defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated" > > > this file some times ago, he probably fixed this issue. -> > >=20 -> >=20 +> > > +> > > > You should pull the updated source from the src link here: -> >=20 +> > > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/VmlispLisp -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > I'm going to suppress the Juergen Weiss's asec definition. ->=20 +> > And just for the fun, here is its definition : ->=20 +> > #+:(or :cmu :akcl :gcl) > (defun asec (a) > (if (and (a > -1.0) (a < 1.0)) > 0.0 > (acos (/ 1.0 a)))) ->=20 +> > And no one sees the errors :-) ->=20 +> I think this may be "reasonable" compromize definition for a function with signature @@ -85072,35 +56690,10 @@ protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) (2) 3.1415926535 8979323846 + 0.4671453081 0326201812 8 %i Type: Complex Float ------ - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpbmj-0004KN-8L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:36:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpbmh-0004KB-Kq - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:36:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpbmf-0004Jk-Tc - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:36:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpbmf-0004Jh-QN - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:36:21 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpbmf-0005aW-Om - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:36:21 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GpblG-0001uR-00; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:34:54 +0100 -To: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:34:54 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] flush root wrote: @@ -85129,44 +56722,11 @@ while iprint clearly is used to compose bigger units from small parts. But if you insist I may add a FORCE_-OUTPUT call to iprint (there is no reason to have extra flush function). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbxC-0005LT-Ll - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:47:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpbxB-0005Hw-6P - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:47:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpbx9-0005FW-VR - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:47:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpbx9-0005FL-Q1 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:47:11 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpbx9-0007fh-OW - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:47:11 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F221A4F3D4; - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:47:08 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAU2fPew001837; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:41:28 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAU2fPSR001836; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:41:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] flush From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Date: 30 Nov 2006 03:41:25 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -85204,41 +56764,10 @@ feel like Tim on this particular topic. Could you write up this kind of insight in the pamphlets? It would be useful for some of us in the future. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpcBo-0006O2-6i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:02:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpcBm-0006NO-OY - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:02:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpcBl-0006N0-11 - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:02:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpcBk-0006Mx-RW - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:02:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpcBh-0002fX-4c - for list; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:02:16 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAU31tvT007701 - for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:02:04 -0500 -Received: (qmail 3175 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2006 03:01:55 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 30 Nov 2006 03:01:55 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAU2pPZ02858; - Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:51:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:51:25 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:34:54 +0100 (CET)) Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] flush @@ -85264,39 +56793,12 @@ Calling FORCE_-OUTPUT is a correct change. Alternatively you could call the function StreamFlush()$LISP which is already defined in interp/unlisp.lisp. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpqU5-00074J-U5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:18:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpqU3-00071z-45 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:18:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpqU0-00070E-Rx - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:18:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpqU0-000707-KF - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:18:04 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GpqU0-000312-Hq - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:18:04 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAUIHP0h002535; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:17:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:17:10 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Subject: [vmlisp.lisp] Remove the asec chunk and its - documentation +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: [vmlisp.lisp] Remove the asec chunk and its documentation +Cc: Camm Maguire Greg, @@ -85309,39 +56811,39 @@ Bill Page. On November 30, 2006 1:02 PM greg write: > To: MathAction > Subject: [vmlisp.lisp] Remove the asec chunk and its documentation ->=20 ->=20 -> Changes=20 +> +> +> Changes > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/Vmli > spLisp/diff > -- ->=20 +> > ??changed: -> =20 +> > -\subsection{The arc cotangent function} > +\subsection{The cotangent function} > Contributed by Juergen Weiss from Arthur Norman's CCL. ->=20 +> > --removed: -> =20 +> > -\subsection{The arc cotangent function} > -Contributed by Juergen Weiss from Arthur Norman's CCL. -> -<>=3D +> -<>= > -#+:(or :cmu :akcl :gcl) > -(defun asec (a) > - (if (and (a > -1.0) (a < 1.0)) > - 0.0 > - (acos (/ 1.0 a)))) > -@ -> =20 ->=20 +> +> > --removed: > <> > -<> > <> ->=20 +> > -- -> forwarded from=20 +> forwarded from > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/VmlispLisp#msg2= 006 @@ -85349,76 +56851,47 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/VmlispLisp#msg2= On November 29, 2006 8:28 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: ->=20 +> > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 15:25 -0500, Page, Bill a =E9crit : > > On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:38 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -> > >=20 -> > > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 18:18 +0100, Gabriel Dos=20 +> > > +> > > Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 18:18 +0100, Gabriel Dos > Reis a =E9crit : > > > [...] -> > >=20 +> > > > > > > vmlisp.lisp has become a kind of black hole attracting all -> > > > kinds of macros.=20 -> > > >=20 +> > > > kinds of macros. +> > > > > > > > We will make sure that that black hole stops growing, and in > > > > particular there is only one symbol, dsetq and it is defined. -> > >=20 +> > > > > > Since you speak about this, the 'asec' function in vmlisp.lisp is -> > > defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated"=20 +> > > defined two times for gcl and cmucl. Kai Kaminski "literated" > > > this file some times ago, he probably fixed this issue. -> > >=20 -> >=20 +> > > +> > > > You should pull the updated source from the src link here: -> >=20 +> > > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/interp/VmlispLisp -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > I'm going to suppress the Juergen Weiss's asec definition. ->=20 +> > And just for the fun, here is its definition : ->=20 +> > #+:(or :cmu :akcl :gcl) > (defun asec (a) > (if (and (a > -1.0) (a < 1.0)) > 0.0 > (acos (/ 1.0 a)))) ->=20 +> > And no one sees the errors :-) ->=20 -> Greg ->=20 ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpqcj-0006Ga-Mt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:27:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpqch-0006CH-A4 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:27:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpqcg-00069H-7i - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:27:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpqcf-00068x-Me - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:27:01 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpqcf-0004h5-FH - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:27:01 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-36-64.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-36-64.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.142.64]) - by mwinf1922.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BC43D1C0008C; - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:26:57 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation - violation:cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page + +\start Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:27:11 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentation violation:cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 21:20 -0500, Page, Bill a =E9crit : @@ -85426,13 +56899,13 @@ Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 21:20 -0500, Page, Bill a =E9crit : > I think this may be "reasonable" compromize definition for a > function with signature ->=20 +> > Float -> Float ->=20 +> > Juergen recognized this pecularity. ->=20 +> > On 29 Oct 2003 14:35:25 +0100 Juergen Weiss wrote: ->=20 +> > > Here the lisp version of the C versions in csl > > One problem: the formula may work for real arguments > > only. @@ -85452,7 +56925,7 @@ Le mercredi 29 novembre 2006 =E0 21:20 -0500, Page, Bill a =E9crit : > > 0.0 > > (acos (/ 1.0 a)))) > > ->=20 +> > Perhaps a better argument checking would be a good idea, but > obviously Axiom does not try to call this asec function for > real values between -1 and 1. @@ -85471,17 +56944,17 @@ and do not return 0. Of course it can be easily implemented in Spad. > (1) -> )cl all > All user variables and function definitions have been cleared. > (1) -> asec(1.9)$Float ->=20 +> > (1) 1.0165344923 4256851184 > Type: Float > (2) -> asec(0.9)$Float ->=20 +> > >> Error detected within library code: > acos: argument > 1 in magnitude ->=20 +> > protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) > (2) -> asec(0.9)$Complex(Float) ->=20 +> > (2) 3.1415926535 8979323846 + 0.4671453081 0326201812 8 %i > Type: Complex Float @@ -85490,41 +56963,16 @@ function is not used. I haven't looked at this recently but I think in these cases, the definition comes from the ArcTrigonometricFunctionCategory category. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpqph-00041y-8q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:40:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpqpb-0003tO-DI - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:40:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpqpX-0003n0-4G - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:40:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpqpW-0003mb-Pi - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:40:18 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpqpT-00072s-Vj - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:40:16 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-36-64.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-36-64.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.142.64]) - by mwinf1922.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AF54D1C00096; - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:40:14 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:40:28 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Subject: Re: [vmlisp.lisp] Remove the asec chunk and its - documentation +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [vmlisp.lisp] Remove the asec chunk and its documentation +Cc: Camm Maguire Le jeudi 30 novembre 2006 =E0 13:17 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > Greg, ->=20 +> > Did you verify that you can successfully build Axiom with this > modification to vmlisp.lisp.pamphlet? @@ -85533,46 +56981,20 @@ Axiom. If a full recompilation of Axiom is necessary I prefer to revert this change (I don't want to recompile Axiom just for this simple modification). -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpr59-0004h5-9V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:56:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpr56-0004ez-M4 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:56:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpr51-0004bD-Df - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:56:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpr51-0004b7-Ao - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:56:19 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpr51-0002k1-7e - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:56:19 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-36-64.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-36-64.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.142.64]) - by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 805E71C000AF; - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:17 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page - <1164912028.3704.38.camel@ellipse> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:31 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list -Subject: Re: [vmlisp.lisp] Remove the asec chunk and its - documentation +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [vmlisp.lisp] Remove the asec chunk and its documentation +Cc: Camm Maguire Le jeudi 30 novembre 2006 =E0 19:40 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : > Le jeudi 30 novembre 2006 =E0 13:17 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > > Greg, -> >=20 +> > > > Did you verify that you can successfully build Axiom with this > > modification to vmlisp.lisp.pamphlet? ->=20 +> > I have only tested a recompilation of this file, not a complete build o= f > Axiom. If a full recompilation of Axiom is necessary I prefer to revert @@ -85584,40 +57006,9 @@ I forgot to say that what I have removed is ununsed code since the not test my change (recompiling vmlisp.lisp). Checked after reading your mail. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GprOX-0006RV-1h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:16:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GprOV-0006Nf-0J - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:16:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GprOO-00068V-R6 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:16:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GprOO-00068F-Mp - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:16:20 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GprOO-0007gT-7b - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:16:20 -0500 -Received: (qmail 22544 invoked by uid 7797); 30 Nov 2006 19:12:50 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.028301 secs); 30 Nov 2006 19:12:50 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 30 Nov 2006 19:12:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:16:19 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: File name conflicts on brain dead filesystems @@ -85629,41 +57020,11 @@ CHANGELOG - ChangeLog svk didn't choke when I checked out the source, it just overwrites CHANGELOG with ChangeLog and then claims I modified the file. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gprp0-00024D-S1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gproz-00022h-7W - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gprox-00021w-Ku - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gprox-00021j-9O - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:47 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.28] (helo=mail208.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gprox-0003lo-4J - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:47 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail208.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAUJhIkH011914; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:33 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:02 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) On November 30, 2006 1:27 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: > ... @@ -85713,47 +57074,13 @@ it, maybe re-writing it to correct the error would be better? Anyway. No problem. You decide. -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpt9B-00007G-8j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:08:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpt9A-00006F-Bi - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:08:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpt98-0008VC-QI - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:08:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpt98-0008Ur-Kc - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:08:42 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpt98-00047B-Cw - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:08:42 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268F240F09; - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:08:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAUL2sJ8022772; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:02:57 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAUL2spD022771; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:02:54 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -Subject: Re: File name conflicts on brain dead filesystems -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 30 Nov 2006 22:02:54 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: File name conflicts on brain dead filesystems -Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | In the build-improvements branch there still is one filename conflict | on Mac OS X: @@ -85765,33 +57092,10 @@ Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: shrug. I'll rename it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpvc3-0006J3-Vs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:46:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpvc1-0006Iq-9s - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:46:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpvbz-0006Ie-PS - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:46:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpvbz-0006Ib-JX - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:46:39 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.61] (helo=evolution.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpvbz-0003Ub-0n - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:46:39 -0500 -Received: from hpcf.upr.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by evolution.hpcf.upr.edu (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kAUNeW3I010454 - for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:40:32 -0400 -To: list Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:40:32 -0400 -From: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: list Subject: openpty patch again I'm resubmitting a shorter version of a 300K patch I sent this @@ -85883,7 +57187,7 @@ Log: --- ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 326) +++ ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch pty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Zuazaga + + * configure.ac.pamphlet: added tests for openpty, pty.h, + util.h and libutil @@ -85977,7 +57281,7 @@ Log: --- src/clef/ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 326) +++ src/clef/ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch pty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Zuazaga + + * Makefile.pamphlet: add -lutil to clef link flags if needed + @@ -86002,7 +57306,7 @@ Log: --- src/lib/ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 326) +++ src/lib/ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch pty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Zuazaga + + * openpty.c.pamphlet: use openpty if available + @@ -86088,7 +57392,7 @@ Log: --- src/sman/ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 326) +++ src/sman/ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch pty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Zuazaga + + * Makefile.pamphlet: add -lutil to sman link flags if needed + @@ -86154,47 +57458,11 @@ swBraIiSp++zXoP2utAZAIhCbcGHuk6k/pFlBja1DKZEOTMGfxo9TBOPR+EBKWSqiT0oqUOx0wwC DzdhOOrnPEa9mP8XOZj4sA== ==== END SVK PATCH BLOCK ==== --- -Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -High Performance Computing facility -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpw10-0005N1-BA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Could you expand on what the root problems was? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwF4-0004NO-Qo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:27:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwF3-0004Mn-LK - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:27:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwF1-0004MD-R2 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:27:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpwF1-0004MA-L9 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:26:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpwF0-00062k-RV - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:26:59 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GpwDZ-00081f-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:25:29 +0100 -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] - branches/wh-sandbox -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:25:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] branches/wh-sandbox -> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +> Waldek Hebisch writes: > > [...] > @@ -86452,50 +57640,11 @@ that is a devious construct. 'member' user 'EQUAL' on strings. 'MEMBER' uses 'EQ', which does not give expected effect for strings. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwH6-0005TX-4d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwH5-0005S7-1b - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwH3-0005Q7-6D - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpwH3-0005Pu-3N - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:05 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GpwH0-0006NG-Jg - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:04 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1753 invoked by uid 7797); 1 Dec 2006 00:25:46 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.061255 secs); 01 Dec 2006 00:25:46 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 1 Dec 2006 00:25:46 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:27:58 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: openpty patch again - <200612010001.kB101a503950@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig869C65C2FA6DA700A2297D0F" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig869C65C2FA6DA700A2297D0F root wrote: > on my machine: @@ -86518,51 +57667,11 @@ Darwin humberto-ortiz-zuazagas-power-mac-g5.local 8.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep 8 17:18:57 PDT 2006; root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig869C65C2FA6DA700A2297D0F - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFb3cWO8aX8Tqx8vgRAlLyAKCS2URNlCMCguS6H+0mH0ZK8hqJtgCfcB3/ -SMQoyppkt87geJ1jHIgnCTc= -=9WIH ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig869C65C2FA6DA700A2297D0F-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwHL-0005qO-D5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwHJ-0005oZ-Tp - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwHH-0005kb-RZ - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpwHH-0005kS-Nx - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:19 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpwHG-0006Oq-Qm - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:29:19 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GpwFi-00082H-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:27:42 +0100 -Subject: Re: openpty patch again -To: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:27:42 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: openpty patch again > on my machine: > @@ -86593,46 +57702,13 @@ Cc: list Could you try 'axiom -nogr'. Normally when viewman dies sman re-spawns a new copy... --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwTj-0005KT-CE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:42:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwTh-0005IP-4f - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:42:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwTf-0005GK-Bq - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:42:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpwTf-0005G2-4f - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:42:07 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpwTd-0000LK-M9 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:42:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0A940E4F; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:42:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB10aFbc028629; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:36:17 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB10aFg6028628; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:36:15 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu -Subject: Re: openpty patch again -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 01 Dec 2006 01:36:15 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: openpty patch again -humberto@hpcf.upr.edu writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | I'm resubmitting a shorter version of a 300K patch I sent this | morning. @@ -86842,43 +57918,11 @@ wanted to say Again, many thanks for your work and patience with this patch. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpwhz-0004r6-Vp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpwhy-0004qR-CS - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpwhw-0004qF-TA - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpwhw-0004qC-Qf - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:52 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpwhw-0003Nh-S7 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:53 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kB10uiEo019035 - for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:44 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12089 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2006 00:50:03 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 1 Dec 2006 00:50:03 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kB10dV204001; - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:39:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:39:31 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:27:42 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: openpty patch again -Cc: list The first attempt using axiom -nogr failed and hung forever. I had to kill -9 the process @@ -86936,40 +57980,11 @@ Broken at APPLY. Type :H for Help. BOOT>>(bye) dalys-Computer:/home/daly daly$ - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpwry-00028J-E0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:07:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpwrw-00027n-NR - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:07:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpwrv-00027S-2E - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:07:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpwru-00027P-Uy - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:07:10 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpwru-0004uF-KF - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:07:10 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F284F3B8; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:07:09 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB111Ma9029087; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:01:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB111M3H029086; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:01:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:01:22 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: alql and shoe -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:01:22 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -87013,34 +58028,11 @@ which translates to (MEMBER |kind| '("o" "k" "c" "d" "p")) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwtM-0002lG-5m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:08:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwtK-0002kb-Cr - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:08:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpwtI-0002jp-9h - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:08:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpwtI-0002jm-69 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:08:36 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpwtH-00053P-Oj - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:08:36 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gpwrs-00012G-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:07:08 +0100 -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] - branches/wh-sandbox -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:07:08 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] branches/wh-sandbox Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -87069,35 +58061,11 @@ efficient but for our purpose equivalent. In more detail: |member| uses by symbols. We need explicitly intern 'kind', but for the literal list it is enough to change notation. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpx3S-0006VG-37 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:19:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpx3P-0006TQ-TF - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:19:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpx3O-0006SK-WC - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:19:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpx3O-0006SH-SL - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:19:02 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpx3O-0006gp-Fl - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:19:02 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gpx20-00024E-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:17:36 +0100 -Subject: Re: alql and shoe -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:17:36 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: alql and shoe > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -87155,46 +58123,11 @@ following should be enough: FIXP basicMatch?(pattern,subject) => true false - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpx9j-0003Tp-4D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:25:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpx9h-0003RX-Ty - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:25:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpx9g-0003Oo-FO - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:25:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpx9g-0003Of-98 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:25:32 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpx9g-0007cL-5T - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:25:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654E340F82; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:25:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB11Jhf9029931; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:19:45 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB11Jh3T029930; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:19:43 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] - branches/wh-sandbox -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:19:43 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] branches/wh-sandbox Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -87222,44 +58155,11 @@ OK, thanks. I would prefer we bring |member| back using the "quotation" notation -- yes, I really need to write that primer to new Boot -- and retain the list literal. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxCl-0006SQ-Qr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:28:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxCj-0006Rp-TT - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:28:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxCj-0006Rd-8L - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:28:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpxCj-0006Ra-4d - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:28:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpxCj-00086o-1L - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:28:41 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0C540E31; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:28:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB11Mq21029945; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:22:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB11Mquc029944; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 02:22:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:22:52 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: alql and shoe -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:22:52 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -87273,47 +58173,15 @@ Yes, please check it on build-improvements too. Many thanks! I have so many things to do on Axiom, but I'll try to write a primer to new Boot. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxFs-00081Q-SQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:31:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxFq-00080g-SA - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:31:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxFq-00080L-CB - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:31:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpxFq-00080I-98 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:31:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpwdj-0002cU-VM - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:52:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB8640F56; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:52:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB10khJN028923; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:46:45 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB10kh2S028922; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:46:43 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] - branches/wh-sandbox -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 01 Dec 2006 01:46:42 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [345] branches/wh-sandbox Waldek Hebisch writes: -| > whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +| > Waldek Hebisch writes: | > | > [...] | > @@ -87350,49 +58218,11 @@ are still not explained to me. Indeed. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxnG-0008Ix-Rg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:06:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxnF-0008HC-C3 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:06:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpxnA-00088r-2f - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:06:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpxn9-00088K-Nr - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:06:19 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpxn9-0007JW-10 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:06:19 -0500 -Received: (qmail 4718 invoked by uid 7797); 1 Dec 2006 02:03:10 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.071307 secs); 01 Dec 2006 02:03:10 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 1 Dec 2006 02:03:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:05:24 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: openpty patch again - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigB3569A9BCB60AFEFFEEA8BFB" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigB3569A9BCB60AFEFFEEA8BFB Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -87401,11 +58231,11 @@ ll > | seems to cause problems if the build machinery can see it, so I delet= e > | it from the path. ->=20 +> > we can configure-detect that and set PATH accordingly. ->=20 +> > | One caveat is that you need latex, makeindex, and ->=20 +> > we can ask configure to return the absolute path so that there would > be no need to symlink from somewhere else. @@ -87413,10 +58243,10 @@ Can you reccomend a reference on configure tricks like that? I've looked at the info pages, but can't figure out how to do that. > | but svk patch complains: -> | =20 +> | > | $ svk patch --view pty-again > | Target not local nor mirrored, unable to view patch. ->=20 +> > From the top my head, I don't see what that means. I'll have to go bac= k. @@ -87452,10 +58282,10 @@ But I don't have and don't know how to make the "local copy //local/foo" corresponding to my upstream repository stored in //mirror/axiom > It would be good if you could integrate the suggestions here: ->=20 +> > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00687= =2Ehtml ->=20 +> > In particular, we want to distinguish between the symbol openpty > (HAVE_OPENPTY) and its declaration (HAVE_OPENPTY_DECL). @@ -87463,155 +58293,48 @@ I forgot about that email. I'll try to incorporate your suggestions. > There is no standard C preprocessor directive #elifdef. I believe you > wanted to say ->=20 +> > #elif defined(HAVE_UTIL_H) I stole the snippet from a python mailing list, I guess they use gcc too :-). ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigB3569A9BCB60AFEFFEEA8BFB - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFb43sO8aX8Tqx8vgRAgcxAKCQ6iwWW0qr0HfzvReiW15n+bSmFwCgwFgd -gusymCQ0K/BtT9ONDnzzyRY= -=2fNh ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigB3569A9BCB60AFEFFEEA8BFB-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyFu-0003U9-F1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:36:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyFr-0003QU-Ul - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:36:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyFq-0003Nf-EN - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:35:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpyFq-0003NU-6n - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:35:58 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GpyFp-0001rn-T7 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:35:58 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5381 invoked by uid 7797); 1 Dec 2006 02:32:49 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.067738 secs); 01 Dec 2006 02:32:49 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 1 Dec 2006 02:32:49 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:35:04 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: Re: patch and autoconf (was openpty patch again) - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig9923C823546B868CD0DEDDF2" - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig9923C823546B868CD0DEDDF2 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> humberto@hpcf.upr.edu writes: ->=20 +> Humberto Zuazaga writes: +> > | I'm resubmitting a shorter version of a 300K patch I sent this > | morning. ->=20 +> > I did not receive that patch... It's probably stuck in the mailman admindb queue. At 300K it's better to delete it than let it through. I didn't realize how big it was. ->=20 +> > | This time I generated the patch without the diffs for configure > | and a couple of Makefile.in files. I guess my version of configure is= > | different from Gaby's, it basically changed every line in configure. ->=20 +> > I'm using Autoconf 2.59; what is yours? $ autoconf --version autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60 ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - - ---------------enig9923C823546B868CD0DEDDF2 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFb5TeO8aX8Tqx8vgRAi8LAJ0XYkg9jqDsKojleF5AplnNDcuYigCgvEdR -gQpOLAilbqWjnAc7zQRAMxY= -=TrXh ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig9923C823546B868CD0DEDDF2-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyRd-0006O8-Ac - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:48:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyRb-0006Lc-7j - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:48:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyRa-0006L1-OT - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:48:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpyRa-0006Kw-Kr - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:48:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpyRa-0004JQ-Gf - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:48:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5C44F3B0; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:48:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB12gHS1032114; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:42:20 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB12gHIm032113; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:42:17 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: openpty patch again - - <456F8DE4.4060009@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 01 Dec 2006 03:42:17 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: openpty patch again -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | @@ -87709,46 +58432,13 @@ any time svk update -s --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyTk-0002d6-Vn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:50:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyTj-0002aG-IE - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:50:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyTi-0002Z9-VE - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:50:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpyTi-0002Yw-RO - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:50:18 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpyTi-0004YS-RP - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:50:19 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D024F3C6; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:50:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB12iUHN032147; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:44:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB12iUAF032146; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:44:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: patch and autoconf (was openpty patch again) - - <456F94D8.9040502@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 01 Dec 2006 03:44:30 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: patch and autoconf (was openpty patch again) -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: [...] @@ -87766,45 +58456,13 @@ partly because of GCC which is still stuck with Autoconf < 2.60. Autoconf 2.60 is supposed to be fancier. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyUu-0004U3-3T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:51:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyUs-0004Td-Cn - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:51:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GpyUq-0004Sh-Pl - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:51:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GpyUq-0004SO-IX - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:51:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GpyUq-0004gj-Av - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:51:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3682440ED6; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:51:25 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB12jduU032170; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:45:42 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB12jdEZ032169; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:45:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200612010200.kB120pq04067@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 01 Dec 2006 03:45:39 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: CLgetpid -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > CLgetpid() is defined in src/lib/cfuns-c.c but it does not appear | > to be used anywhere. I would like to remove it, but I would like to @@ -87817,77 +58475,39 @@ Thanks. (sorry for having mistyped the list name). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpz2C-0005IW-4Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:25:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpz2B-0005IL-83 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:25:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpz28-0005I1-K6 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:25:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpz28-0005Hy-Dn - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:25:52 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpz28-0000y4-0p - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:25:52 -0500 -Received: (qmail 6576 invoked by uid 7797); 1 Dec 2006 03:22:43 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.209046 secs); 01 Dec 2006 03:22:43 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 1 Dec 2006 03:22:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:24:58 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: openpty patch again - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigDC508F21BE1BAFD4FE79FA88" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigDC508F21BE1BAFD4FE79FA88 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> You need to create a depotmap; call it whatever you want. =20 +> You need to create a depotmap; call it whatever you want. > Personally, I have several depots, one of them is /mirror > for mirroring several repos of projects I work on (GCC has a distinct > dedicated depot). Chose a directory where you want your depot to > reside. It could be ~/.svk ->=20 +> > svk depotmap /mirror ~/.svk ->=20 +> > (enter the editor, make whatever change you think is appropriate; > save; exit) ->=20 +> > Next, you need to mirror axiom repo ->=20 +> > svk mirror https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom /mirror/axiom ->=20 +> > Then, you need to synchronize that mirror ->=20 +> > svk sync /mirror/axiom ->=20 +> > (that can take a while -- it mirrors the repo on your local disk. > Therefore, it is like if you were doing a checkout and SF/SVN would > give you headach; your would need to be patient). ->=20 +> > /mirror/axiom is now your local repo. You can check out as ->=20 +> > svk co /mirror/axiom/branches/build-improvements axiom.bi No, that won't work, or rather it works to check out the source, but I @@ -87947,60 +58567,11 @@ What I'm trying now is to make a svk copy of /mirror/axiom/branches/build-improvements to /mirror/local to see if the patch commands work. Stay tuned. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigDC508F21BE1BAFD4FE79FA88 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFb6CQO8aX8Tqx8vgRAtrFAJ45PFDMMZOv2/zWJw3mL0c0uTiGAwCfRB3Q -QZ1hWARLYyOaZR2yV6/uPMM= -=THcm ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigDC508F21BE1BAFD4FE79FA88-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpz3v-0005pO-JS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:27:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpz3t-0005p9-N9 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:27:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gpz3s-0005ox-B6 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:27:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gpz3s-0005ou-6J - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:27:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gpz3s-00016S-3c - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:27:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CF140F05; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 04:27:37 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB13Lpvv000369; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 04:21:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB13Lpqn000368; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 04:21:51 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:21:51 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: openpty patch again -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:21:51 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -88010,48 +58581,13 @@ This is a design flaw in sman and friends -- I came across it yesterday and thought "wait, this is an unbounded replication; nobody wants that!". --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq02t-0005eS-UU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:30:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq02s-0005d1-Ud - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:30:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq02q-0005Z2-SB - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:30:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gq02q-0005Yd-Hg - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:30:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gq02p-0002Jd-OF - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:30:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A27641043; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 05:30:36 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB14OoOw001257; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 05:24:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB14OoHS001256; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 05:24:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: openpty patch again - - <456F8DE4.4060009@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <456FA08A.5000100@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 01 Dec 2006 05:24:50 +0100 -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: openpty patch again -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | @@ -88108,42 +58644,11 @@ the master repo, in particular one for Axiom. This creates a local branch in your default depot, so it effectively is "deconnected" from the Axiom repo. Is that what you want? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq09C-0002dk-Kn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:37:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq09A-0002cN-Cn - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:37:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq099-0002bc-8O - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:37:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gq099-0002bU-5r - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:37:11 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gq099-0003gG-50 - for list; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:37:11 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0422D410B7; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 05:37:07 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB14VM5u001287; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 05:31:24 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB14VMJG001286; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 05:31:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 01 Dec 2006 05:31:22 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: alql and shoe -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 05:31:22 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -88169,7 +58674,3 @@ My build says fails with: I'll look into this later. --- Gaby - - - diff --git a/book/2006-12.txt b/book/2006-12.txt index 3c8eded..445f133 100644 --- a/book/2006-12.txt +++ b/book/2006-12.txt @@ -1,26 +1,8 @@ \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq4Ga-0004Xw-Tp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:01:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq4GZ-0004Xj-Fy - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:01:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq4GV-0004XU-Ie - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:01:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gq4GV-0004XR-45 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:01:03 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gq4GU-000557-HP - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:01:02 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gq4EZ-0006V3-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:59:03 +0100 -Subject: Re: alql and shoe -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:59:03 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: alql and shoe > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -54,44 +36,11 @@ hand 'alql.o' also build in existing tree fails... It is still a mistery for me when our Makefile really re-make things... --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq8UU-0002nN-KG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:31:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq8US-0002kp-Nk - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:31:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq8UR-0002hw-87 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:31:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gq8UR-0002hl-2P - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:31:43 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gq8UQ-0008D7-VI - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:31:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F63411B3; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:31:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1DPqvo009927; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:25:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1DPqs5009926; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:25:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:25:51 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: alql and shoe -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:25:51 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -129,42 +78,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: After a change, it is safer to make either mostlyclean or clean. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq8l9-0004JU-1v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:48:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq8l6-0004Gz-Qh - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:48:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gq8l6-0004Fg-2Q - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:48:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gq8l5-0004FP-TB - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:48:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gq8l5-000334-Sw - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:48:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861CD4F43A; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:48:46 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1Dh5bU010547; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:43:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1Dh5Qo010546; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:43:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:43:05 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: alql and shoe -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 14:43:05 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -179,42 +97,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: All the examples? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqArQ-000702-1z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:03:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqArO-0006ys-59 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:03:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqArN-0006y1-CX - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:03:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqArN-0006xs-89 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:03:33 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqArM-00030C-MD - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:03:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7E741423; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:03:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1FvbJl014431; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 16:57:44 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1FvaPK014430; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 16:57:36 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 01 Dec 2006 16:57:36 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: alql and shoe -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 16:57:36 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -244,33 +131,11 @@ src/interp. I'm going to remove the quote to allow build and put this issue on the TODO list (more precisely, an audit of all users of member, and other special shoe functions). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBKy-0005Pz-7R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:34:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBKw-0005OX-9W - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:34:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBKv-0005Nx-Gx - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:34:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqBKv-0005Nk-2S - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:34:05 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqBKu-0000y4-TP - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:34:05 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GqBJK-0007Ef-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:32:26 +0100 -Subject: Re: alql and shoe -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:32:26 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: alql and shoe > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -288,51 +153,24 @@ Cc: list The block in 13.13.8 using 'getDatabase'. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBar-0004b7-83 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:50:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBaq-0004Zc-D9 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:50:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBao-0004VC-M5 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:50:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqBao-0004Ux-57 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:50:30 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.31] (helo=smtp-msa-out20.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqBao-0002e7-5W - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:50:30 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-93-244.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-93-244.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.90.244]) - by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AAC8E1C000AD; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:50:25 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page +\start Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:50:43 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) Le jeudi 30 novembre 2006 =E0 14:43 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : [...] -> >=20 +> > > > (and (a > -1.0) (a < 1.0)) -> >=20 +> > > > This is not Lisp code :-) > > ->=20 +> > Oh! Duh, ... ->=20 +> > So this doesn't cause an error when compiling Axiom with GCL? No this does not cause an error. I'm wrong when I say that this is not @@ -343,42 +181,19 @@ that he used another language. No, akcl and gcl are actually, apparently, synonyms. ->=20 +> > But maybe for the sake of other lisp targets rather than deleting > it, maybe re-writing it to correct the error would be better? ->=20 +> > Anyway. No problem. You decide. I leave it as it is now. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBoU-0005SS-Eh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:04:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBoS-0005Qk-D5 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:04:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBoR-0005Pv-B0 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:04:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqBoQ-0005PQ-T0 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:04:35 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqBoQ-0005NM-CD - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:04:34 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GqBmp-0001X3-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:02:55 +0100 -Subject: Re: alql and shoe -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:02:55 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: alql and shoe Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -428,44 +243,11 @@ getBrowseDatabase. Also the patch I orignally proposed bootstraped OK. stringMatches?(pattern,subject) == - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBz1-00043u-P9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:15:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqBz0-00043X-Hi - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:15:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqByy-000435-Pp - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:15:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqByy-00042o-K3 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:15:28 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.65] (helo=elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqByx-0007eP-Sg - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:15:28 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=GfpEtq1t5wMBm/gV7RjU4ybbr6/HPGDpjfoFEalTSOL4VCSZDB4Rwjf0ZeVizRC1; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.174.61] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GqByw-0005fw-7q; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:15:26 -0500 +\start +Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:26:55 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:26:55 -0800 - <200611141513.11996.Richard Harke> - <547ixx5t0n.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On Tue November 14 2006 18:43, you wrote: @@ -493,46 +275,13 @@ dynamic linking, ie letting the lisp code access vars by name was an issue. Can you provide more detail? Any suggestions would be helpful. -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqC0G-0004ka-9M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:16:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqC0E-0004iz-44 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:16:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqC0C-0004hO-4x - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:16:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqC0B-0004hB-Qq - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:16:43 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqC0B-0007oD-Lq - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:16:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C5940FFC; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:16:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1HAr1E016353; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:10:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1HAr6d016352; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:10:53 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstack - ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) - <1164991843.3244.15.camel@ellipse> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 01 Dec 2006 18:10:53 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstack ok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 (cvs head) -Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +Gregory Vanuxem writes: [...] @@ -542,42 +291,11 @@ Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: Indeed -- given the history of GCL. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqCEf-0005n3-GE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:31:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqCEd-0005lL-UM - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:31:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqCEc-0005ki-EN - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:31:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqCEc-0005kf-BY - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:31:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqCEc-00029v-78 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:31:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC014F3DD; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:31:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1HPmgE016746; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:25:50 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1HPmmK016745; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:25:48 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 01 Dec 2006 18:25:47 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: alql and shoe -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 18:25:47 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -621,80 +339,21 @@ OK. Please update README.build-improvements for auditing use of special shoe functions. I tried to commit before leaving home but it failed and I did not have time to investigate further. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqDc1-0003we-QL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:59:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqDc0-0003w7-Ky - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:59:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqDbz-0003vZ-U6 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:59:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqDbz-0003vT-LF - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:59:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqDbz-0001L3-AY - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:59:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8101D4F3DB - for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:59:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1Is0lY019157 - for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:54:03 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1Is0Pj019156; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:54:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 01 Dec 2006 19:53:19 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Quota at SF - Hi, Did we overflow our quota ay SF? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqE11-00032P-VJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqE10-0002zD-G7 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqE0z-0002xC-GY - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqE0z-0002wt-Bl - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:41 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqE0z-00067n-78 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:41 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kB1JOkBh025944; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:25:05 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] - Segmentationviolation:cstackok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 - (cvs head) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:23:55 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstackok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 On December 1, 2006 11:51 AM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: @@ -727,39 +386,11 @@ what I thought you meant when you said it was not lisp code.) Why do you now say that you were "wrong"? If this code is not excluded somehow, why doesn't this cause an error when compiling Axiom? -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqE1B-0003FE-3Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqE19-0003CX-67 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqE18-0003AU-1a - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqE17-0003AK-LN - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:49 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqE17-00068P-GR - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:25:49 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kB1JOkBi025944; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:25:18 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Quota at SF +\start Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:24:40 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Quota at SF On December 1, 2006 1:53 PM Gabriel Dos Reis asked? > @@ -768,48 +399,11 @@ On December 1, 2006 1:53 PM Gabriel Dos Reis asked? Is there a quota at SourceForge? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqECU-0008Nw-Pm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:37:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqECT-0008Mu-Ql - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:37:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqECR-0008Ka-9C - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:37:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqECQ-0008KO-VA - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:37:31 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqECP-00013J-28 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:37:31 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kB1JbE1D023911 - for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:37:23 -0500 -Received: (qmail 28199 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2006 19:37:14 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gregory Vanuxem; 1 Dec 2006 19:37:14 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kB1JQd104851; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:26:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:26:39 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] - Segmentationviolation:cstackok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 - (cvs head) -Cc: list +Subject: re: [Gcl-devel] Segmentationviolation:cstackok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0 > > > > > > > > (and (a > -1.0) (a < 1.0)) @@ -859,44 +453,13 @@ which is equivalent of (and t t) so the if statement returns a zero. Since this is the last expression the result of the function foo is 0 -t - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqEKp-0001nH-Qp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:46:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqEKo-0001kQ-7v - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:46:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqEKm-0001if-Nz - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:46:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqEKm-0001ic-Gl - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:46:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqEKm-0002Vv-Du - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:46:08 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FD7410C6; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:46:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1JeGAS020281; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:40:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1JeGVO020280; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:40:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Quota at SF -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 01 Dec 2006 20:40:15 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Quota at SF -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On December 1, 2006 1:53 PM Gabriel Dos Reis asked? | > @@ -912,44 +475,11 @@ files is met with resistance along the line of: RA layer request failed: COPY of ChangeLog.silver: 403 Forbidden (https://svn.sourceforge.net) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqEQn-0003c8-H0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:52:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqEQl-0003bY-ER - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:52:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqEQj-0003ai-Rj - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:52:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqEQj-0003ab-NZ - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:52:17 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqEQj-0003AG-OJ - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:52:17 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kB1Jq12h027899 - for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:52:10 -0500 -Received: (qmail 26988 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2006 19:52:01 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 1 Dec 2006 19:52:01 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kB1JfQF04867; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:41:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:41:26 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 01 Dec 2006 20:40:15 +0100) Subject: Re: Quota at SF - -Cc: list > | On December 1, 2006 1:53 PM Gabriel Dos Reis asked? > | > @@ -968,38 +498,11 @@ Cc: list maybe SVN has a pending lock? is there a way to run cleanup on the host? -t - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqFIJ-0003Vs-VV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:47:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqFII-0003Vk-Nd - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:47:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqFIG-0003V3-HG - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:47:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqFIG-0003Us-BI - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:47:36 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqFIG-0003P8-7Q - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:47:36 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kB1KlF0l024592; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 15:47:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Re: - [Gcl-devel]Segmentationviolation:cstackok:signalling error with - GCL-2.7.0(cvs head) +\start Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 15:46:56 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Segmentationviolation:cstackok:signalling error with GCL-2.7.0(cvs head) On December 1, 2006 2:27 PM Tim Daly wrote: > > @@ -1043,49 +546,13 @@ because I did not notice that it was right. :-) Ya, well ... I guess that's what I hate about Lisp. ;) It always makes me feel so stupid... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqFn8-00075A-4f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:19:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqFn6-00073P-MI - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:19:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqFn4-00071V-So - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:19:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqFn4-00071R-QY - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:19:26 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqFn4-0007th-JG - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:19:26 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C674F3A4; - Fri, 1 Dec 2006 22:19:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1LDUNe022222; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 22:13:38 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1LDU6B022221; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 22:13:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 01 Dec 2006 22:13:30 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Quota at SF - - <200612011941.kB1JfQF04867@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 01 Dec 2006 22:13:30 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | On December 1, 2006 1:53 PM Gabriel Dos Reis asked? | > | > @@ -1115,35 +582,13 @@ I'm not going to do it right now, because I'm not concentrated and my little boy likes my keyboard -- so I'm not sure axiomatizers would appreciate his take on keyboards :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqH3d-0002Rm-If - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:40:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqH3b-0002PU-H0 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:40:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqH3Z-0002Mh-7r - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:40:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqH3Z-0002MO-1X - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:40:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqH3Y-00047i-UF - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:40:33 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GqH0X-00057G-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:37:25 +0100 -Subject: Re: Quota at SF -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 23:37:25 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Quota at SF -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > > | On December 1, 2006 1:53 PM Gabriel Dos Reis asked? > | > @@ -1167,44 +612,11 @@ seems unlikely. I just added a directory and two files to wh-sandbox and it worked fine. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqHYv-0004UO-7o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:12:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqHYt-0004Sx-4l - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:12:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqHYs-0004SR-MP - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:12:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqHYs-0004SH-Fw - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:12:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqHYs-0000gH-AC - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:12:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFF04F3D0; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:12:39 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1N73to025601; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:07:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1N73Ve025600; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:07:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:07:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Quota at SF -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:07:03 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -1219,80 +631,23 @@ OK. So, something must be wrong with me. Can you try to rename the toplevel ChangeLog to ChangeLog.silver on build-improvements? -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqHzO-0008Ny-Gk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:40:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqHzM-0008No-Dr - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:40:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqHzL-0008Nc-Vt - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:40:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqHzL-0008NZ-Ss - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:40:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqHzL-0004oc-Pi - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:40:15 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07284F3A4; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:40:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1NYOEE026015; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:34:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1NYOY0026014; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:34:24 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:34:24 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Quota at SF - - <200612011941.kB1JfQF04867@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:34:24 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | maybe SVN has a pending lock? There no locks in the SF repo. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqI31-0003mr-9L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:44:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqI30-0003ll-CP - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:44:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqI2y-0003kO-Js - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:44:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqI2y-0003kI-GA - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:44:00 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqI2y-00055H-DD - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:44:00 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GqI1V-0002UL-00; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:42:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: Quota at SF -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:42:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Quota at SF > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -1319,44 +674,11 @@ So maybe there is something special in this file??? Or, maybe the problem is just with renames (I _added_ files and a directory)??? --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqIDq-0006Ub-OE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:55:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqIDp-0006U4-7f - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:55:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqIDo-0006Tj-Re - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:55:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqIDo-0006TY-L7 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:55:12 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqIDo-0005uN-Kb - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:55:12 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A41F4F3C2; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:54:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB1NnLMl026233; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:49:23 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB1NnLOJ026232; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:49:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:49:21 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Quota at SF -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:49:21 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -1391,33 +713,10 @@ back. And that was fine. Quite curious. here must have been something special with that file. I renamed other files yesterday or the day before. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJ3j-0001l0-K8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:48:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJ3h-0001i1-OM - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:48:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJ3f-0001eD-6J - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:48:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqJ3e-0001dw-Mu - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:48:46 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.61] (helo=evolution.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqJ3d-0005AI-1s - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:48:46 -0500 -Received: from hpcf.upr.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by evolution.hpcf.upr.edu (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB20gZGV017642 - for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:42:35 -0400 -To: list Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:42:35 -0400 -From: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: list Subject: openpty again, again I worked some on the patch, trying to incorporate the suggestions from: @@ -1436,12 +735,12 @@ Log: --- ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 349) +++ ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch openpty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,13 @@ -+2006-12-01 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga ++2006-12-01 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga + + * configure.ac.pamphlet: incorporated suggested changes from: + http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00687.html + -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga + + * configure.ac.pamphlet: added tests for openpty, pty.h, + util.h and libutil @@ -1548,7 +847,7 @@ Log: --- src/clef/ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 349) +++ src/clef/ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch openpty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga + + * Makefile.pamphlet: add -lutil to clef link flags if needed + @@ -1573,7 +872,7 @@ Log: --- src/lib/ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 349) +++ src/lib/ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch openpty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Zuazaga + + * openpty.c.pamphlet: use openpty if available + @@ -1672,7 +971,7 @@ Log: --- src/sman/ChangeLog.build-improvements (revision 349) +++ src/sman/ChangeLog.build-improvements (patch openpty-again level 1) @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ -+2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga ++2006-11-29 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga + + * Makefile.pamphlet: add -lutil to sman link flags if needed + @@ -1746,81 +1045,43 @@ Lnbhy3AY84Y/aicZo0mFFcXi2Ios14r8Jqe23bRcbDUpl25TWiEHwgjhBv4PRw38Wg== \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJFV-0000zs-DQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:01:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJFS-0000vC-W1 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:00:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJFR-0000rq-AE - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:00:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqJFR-0000rY-7P - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:00:57 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqJFQ-0006GW-Ar - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:00:56 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16142 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Dec 2006 00:57:44 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 1.578525 secs); 02 Dec 2006 00:57:44 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Dec 2006 00:57:42 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:59:44 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: openpty patch again - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig9775F9285E086EBCD0F28001" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig9775F9285E086EBCD0F28001 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | > /mirror/axiom is now your local repo. You can check out as -> | >=20 +> | > > | > svk co /mirror/axiom/branches/build-improvements axiom.bi -> |=20 -> | No, that won't work, or rather it works to check out the source, but = -I +> | +> | No, that won't work, or rather it works to check out the source, but I > | can't svk patch that working directory. ->=20 +> > ? ->=20 -> The above is what *I* _use_ to set up a repo directly "connected" to=20 +> +> The above is what *I* _use_ to set up a repo directly "connected" to > the master repo, in particular one for Axiom. Yes, but can you svk patch --cat a patch you have created in that depot? ->=20 +> > | Those are the instructions I had > | followed from the AxiomSilverBranch page on MathAction. -> |=20 +> | > | The svk help intro page suggests a procedure like: -> |=20 +> | > | svk mirror -> |=20 -> | First, you'll need to mirror a remote repository. This sets up = -a -> | local copy of that repository for you to branch from, merge to = -and -> | otherwise poke at. The local path is sometimes called a "depot = -path." -> |=20 +> | +> | First, you'll need to mirror a remote repository. This sets up a +> | local copy of that repository for you to branch from, merge to and +> | otherwise poke at. The local path is sometimes called a "depot path." +> | > | # This command sets up the mirror directory for your local > | # mirrors of remote repositories > | svk mkdir //mirror ->=20 +> > This creates a local branch in your default depot, so it effectively > is "deconnected" from the Axiom repo. Is that what you want? @@ -1834,76 +1095,19 @@ I just want the svk patch commands to work. Maybe it's some bug in the Mac OS X version of svk I'm using. The only thing related I can see on google is: -http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2005-September/042700.html= - - ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig9775F9285E086EBCD0F28001 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFcNAIO8aX8Tqx8vgRAnM+AJ9ZRAk5Ayw5l0vIAAf8t8YqIdOq3ACfVdWp -Fcjeu/GNcHyTriaLLjXbR8g= -=GxOl ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig9775F9285E086EBCD0F28001-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJT0-0003qt-1m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:14:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJSx-0003ok-VP - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:14:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJSx-0003oK-G5 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:14:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqJSx-0003oB-5G - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:14:55 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqJSw-0000FG-M4 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:14:55 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16601 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Dec 2006 01:11:46 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.09686 secs); 02 Dec 2006 01:11:46 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Dec 2006 01:11:46 -0000 +http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2005-September/042700.html + +\start Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:13:57 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: list Subject: Re: openpty again, again - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigE5CCA3E388B415FD06A9D1FC" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigE5CCA3E388B415FD06A9D1FC -humberto@hpcf.upr.edu wrote: -> I worked some on the patch, trying to incorporate the suggestions from:= - ->=20 -> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00687.h= -tml ->=20 +Humberto Zuazaga wrote: +> I worked some on the patch, trying to incorporate the suggestions from: +> +> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00687.html +> > How does it look now? Aaugh! It didn't work! @@ -1915,64 +1119,15 @@ supported on socket Sorry. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigE5CCA3E388B415FD06A9D1FC - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFcNNdO8aX8Tqx8vgRAh1NAJ93tZxLgmGuJbZs0bdUN9NvpRqqiwCfaWAv -qU+7bakIjutEIjXCXXkihfM= -=BAhc ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigE5CCA3E388B415FD06A9D1FC-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJo5-0000dA-K7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:36:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJo4-0000bW-04 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:36:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqJo2-0000ZV-2M - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:36:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqJo1-0000ZJ-SX - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:36:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqJo1-0003c9-PW - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:36:41 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C157C40F05; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:36:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB21UorS027837; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:30:52 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB21Uoe0027836; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:30:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: openpty again, again -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 02 Dec 2006 02:30:50 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: openpty again, again -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: -| humberto@hpcf.upr.edu wrote: +| Humberto Zuazaga wrote: | > I worked some on the patch, trying to incorporate the suggestions from: | > | > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00687.html @@ -1991,53 +1146,16 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: Please don't. I'm working in that same area. I'll take on the ball and post something for you to test. -| -| -- -| Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -| Programmer-Archaeologist -| University of Puerto Rico -| http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -| -| -| _______________________________________________ -| Axiom-developer mailing list -| list -| http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - --- - Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqKId-0000m1-20 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:08:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqKIa-0000jm-U5 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:08:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqKIV-0000dW-F0 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:08:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqKIU-0000dE-L2 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:08:11 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqKIU-0007iq-3y - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:08:10 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GqKGw-00053j-00; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 03:06:34 +0100 -Subject: Re: openpty again, again -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 03:06:34 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: openpty again, again Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +> Humberto Zuazaga writes: > -> | humberto@hpcf.upr.edu wrote: +> | Humberto Zuazaga wrote: > | > I worked some on the patch, trying to incorporate the suggestions from: > | > > | > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-11/msg00687.html @@ -2087,35 +1205,11 @@ AXIOM_USE_OPENPTY I would just say: BTW: IIUC the fragment above should test for 'defind(HAVE_OPENPTY)' and similar. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqL4P-0004KX-Qc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:57:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqL4N-0004IN-ES - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:57:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqL4L-0004G8-U6 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:57:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqL4L-0004G2-M0 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:57:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqL4L-0005Z9-MH - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:57:37 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GqL2t-0000in-00; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 03:56:07 +0100 -Subject: Re: openpty patch again -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 03:56:07 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: openpty patch again Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -2140,51 +1234,13 @@ to 'AXIOMsys' and for some commands expects that 'AXIOMsys' will return some data as an answer. There were no way for 'session' to distinguish returned data from 'EndOfOutput' command. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqLV0-0006OE-1c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:25:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqLUy-0006O9-MA - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:25:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqLUw-0006Nu-5g - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:25:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqLUw-0006Nr-0c - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:25:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqLUv-0000Ym-SD - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:25:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5B240E31; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 04:25:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB23JEwb029197; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 04:19:16 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB23JExe029196; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 04:19:14 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200609180211.k8I2BRB06787@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609180440.k8I4eNs06937@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609181239.k8ICd3907462@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 02 Dec 2006 04:19:14 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > Aha! So, in fact we can just remove libspad.a from that list since | > nothing in GCL references symbols from libspad.a. Is that correct? @@ -2200,42 +1256,11 @@ of bsdSignal -- which is in libspad.a. I'm trying the other way that prompted my question earlier, i.e. remove cfuns-c.o and sockio-c.o and leave only libspad.a. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqLea-0003xK-27 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:35:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqLeY-0003x1-2A - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:35:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqLeV-0003wd-G0 - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:35:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqLeV-0003wa-CI - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:34:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqLeV-0002f8-5m - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 22:34:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DD64F3EE; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 04:34:56 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB23T7sR029245; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 04:29:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB23T7xM029244; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 04:29:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Dec 2006 04:29:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: openpty patch again -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Dec 2006 04:29:07 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -2271,52 +1296,15 @@ Well, I was not specifically looking for design flaws :-) :-( --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqMEy-0001JL-N8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:12:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqMEx-0001HK-1Y - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:12:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqMEv-0001Fx-DV - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:12:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqMEv-0001Fu-8A - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:12:37 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqMEv-0006cz-1K - for list; Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:12:37 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61214F3B8; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 05:12:33 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB246jVq029656; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 05:06:48 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB246jp0029655; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 05:06:45 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Dec 2006 05:06:45 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends - <200609180211.k8I2BRB06787@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609180440.k8I4eNs06937@localhost.localdomain> - - <200609181239.k8ICd3907462@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Dec 2006 05:06:45 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: -| root Tim Daly writes: +| Tim Daly writes: | | | > Aha! So, in fact we can just remove libspad.a from that list since | | > nothing in GCL references symbols from libspad.a. Is that correct? @@ -2339,41 +1327,10 @@ It is odd that we cannot tell GCL "hey, here is an archive for you to look in, in case I later load objects that need some symbols you cannot find right now." --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqO3b-0000Fo-Q8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:09:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqO3Z-0000El-Nu - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:09:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqO3Y-0000EN-16 - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:09:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqO3X-0000EB-MA - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:08:59 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqO3X-0003oC-8v - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:08:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-233-73.zoominternet.net [72.23.233.73]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kB269DaK024970; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:09:13 -0600 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (tower [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kB27Dmjv024463; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:13:48 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kB27DmXJ024460; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:13:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:13:48 -0500 -From: root +From: root To: list -Cc: Subject: email server failure I've had a power supply failure in my email machine @@ -2382,39 +1339,10 @@ I'm trying to build a machine to replace it. If you've sent me mail and are expecting a response please resend it. -Tim - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqYXS-0004VU-JU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:20:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqYXQ-0004V2-Pz - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:20:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqYXP-0004SK-5D - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:20:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqYXP-0004S0-1G - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:20:31 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GqYXO-0008Cx-PR - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:20:30 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kB2HKZaK015512; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:20:35 -0600 -From: Tim Daly -Received: (from daly@localhost) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id kB2HKZLl015509; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:20:35 -0600 Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:20:35 -0600 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: mail server failure Apparently this didn't go thru. @@ -2423,42 +1351,11 @@ I'm trying to rebuild a machine to replace it. If you've sent me mail and are expecting a reply please resend it. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqZHX-000519-CV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:08:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqZHV-000507-8G - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:08:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqZHT-0004xE-LK - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:08:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqZHT-0004x4-EP - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:08:07 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqZHT-0007hX-0u - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:08:07 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1074F3C2; - Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:07:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB2I2Evq006026; 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Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:22:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Dec 2006 19:22:39 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: mail server failure - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Dec 2006 19:22:39 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -2566,32 +1399,10 @@ Of course, this is not what I meant. :-(( I hate emacs and its C-c based keystrokes. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqiSt-0007pc-0p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:56:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqiSr-0007p3-1e - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:56:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqiSp-0007ob-2H - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:56:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqiSo-0007oW-T3 - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:56:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqiSo-000163-O7 - for list; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:56:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GqiRN-0004LQ-00 - for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:54:57 +0100 -To: list Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 04:54:57 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: SourceForge SVN We have problem with SF SVN: first Gaby then I can not make "svn copy". @@ -2607,34 +1418,10 @@ I am reluctant to commit gcl without sharing, so I will probably commit a version which requires users to separately fetch gcl ( and noweb) if needed. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqtV7-0007Jd-0R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:43:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqtV5-0007JD-S5 - for list; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:43:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GqtV4-0007IJ-4H - for list; Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:43:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqtV3-0007I9-UE - for list; 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Any help is welcome. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrFZU-0006ft-F2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:17:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrFZT-0006dX-3E - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:17:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrFZR-0006bU-2f - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:17:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrFZQ-0006bR-UI - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:17:29 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrFZQ-0005Cs-O8 - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:17:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767784F3F7; - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:59:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB4ErWr1006549; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:53:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB4ErWVx006548; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:53:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:53:31 +0100 -Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, list -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [370] - branches/wh-sandbox +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: branches/wh-sandbox -whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +Waldek Hebisch writes: [...] @@ -2823,36 +1520,13 @@ now supported :-) BTW, I'm pretty sure I broke parallel build recently :-/ --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrFdl-0000oQ-AF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:21:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrFdj-0000mi-DW - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:21:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrFdg-0000ja-Dx - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:21:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrFde-0000ij-Rg - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:21:51 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrFde-0005lt-FU - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:21:50 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GrFYQ-0004Qb-00; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:16:26 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:16:26 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [370] - branches/wh-sandbox +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: branches/wh-sandbox -> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +> Waldek Hebisch writes: > > [...] > @@ -2884,49 +1558,15 @@ Test outputs go to .output files. ATM test Makefile uses tee command to echo output also to the standard output, but it is probably better to have only ouput in files. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrG78-0002I0-2O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:52:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrG76-0002Gs-KZ - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:52:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrG71-0002ES-0p - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:52:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrG70-0002EJ-F5 - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:52:10 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrG70-0003Rt-FF - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:52:10 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A61411F5; - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:52:08 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB4FkBQu007778; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:46:14 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB4FkBWG007777; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:46:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 04 Dec 2006 16:46:11 +0100 -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [370] - branches/wh-sandbox +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: branches/wh-sandbox Waldek Hebisch writes: -| > whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +| > Waldek Hebisch writes: | > | > [...] | > @@ -2967,34 +1607,11 @@ concerned about the displayed part. It is not clear to me why that would be better. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrGDc-0003Ra-Dw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:59:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrGDb-0003R4-8n - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:58:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrGDX-0003P9-IH - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:58:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrGDX-0003P1-B2 - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:58:55 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrGDX-0005TL-BQ - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:58:55 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GrGBq-0001IS-00; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:57:10 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:57:10 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list -Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [370] - branches/wh-sandbox +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: branches/wh-sandbox Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -3007,45 +1624,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Test ouput is of big and of little use when debugging build problems. For mechanical checking of test results files are better. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrHqt-0005e3-M8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrHqr-0005dk-Qx - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrHqp-0005cT-Qo - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrHqp-0005cK-KB - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:35 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrHqp-0005Qs-5i - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:43:35 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A76E4F403; 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Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:51:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrHyS-0000N4-W5 - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:51:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrHyQ-0000Ms-Lh - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:51:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrHyQ-0000Mp-EU - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:51:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrHyQ-0006RV-FA - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:51:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GrHwg-0000dE-00; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:49:38 +0100 -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: - [370]branches/wh-sandbox -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:49:38 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: branches/wh-sandbox -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > > | On December 4, 2006 10:57 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > | > @@ -3190,49 +1718,15 @@ BTW: One thing is if we want to run tests in paralell (you seem to prefer serial execution), another is avoiding bugs when somene prefers paralell run. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrIYy-000716-Rl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Mon, 4 Dec 2006 19:23:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: - [370]branches/wh-sandbox -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 04 Dec 2006 19:23:05 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: branches/wh-sandbox Waldek Hebisch writes: -| > "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +| > Bill Page writes: | > | > | On December 4, 2006 10:57 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > | > @@ -3276,32 +1770,10 @@ believe that I don't make the difference :-( You said you have a build problem. But tha answer to that problem is to have a separate rule for check when you're interested i build only. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrJNE-0002WI-CX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:21:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrJNC-0002VF-UH - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:21:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrJNA-0002Tc-Cd - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:21:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrJN9-0002TB-Ke; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:21:03 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GrJN9-0007f3-Bb; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:21:03 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GrJN2-0006EL-00; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:20:56 -0500 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -From: Camm Maguire Date: 04 Dec 2006 14:20:56 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends Greetings! I think you are looking for the autoload functionality @@ -3336,46 +1808,10 @@ It is odd that we cannot tell GCL "hey, here is an archive for you to look in, in case I later load objects that need some symbols you cannot find right now." --- Gaby -============================================================================= --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrKMx-0007no-Lg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:24:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrKMx-0007nD-1x - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:24:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrKMw-0007mU-AL - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:24:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrKMw-0007mH-1J - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:24:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrKMv-0004mr-KG - for list; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:24:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4A24F3C2; - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 21:24:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kB4KIs9O017482; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 21:18:56 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kB4KIs6X017481; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 21:18:54 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Camm Maguire -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 04 Dec 2006 21:18:53 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: libspad.a, cfuns-c.o sockio-c.c and friends Camm Maguire writes: @@ -3385,41 +1821,10 @@ Camm Maguire writes: That is great! Many thanks. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grg88-0004Il-U2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:39:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grg86-0004Id-R2 - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:39:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grg84-0004IE-0B - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:39:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Grg83-0004IB-SK - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:38:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Grg83-0002rV-QO - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:38:59 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Grg7x-0006AX-1G; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:38:53 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Grg7w-00020m-VS; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:38:53 +0100 -To: axiom-dev , - Waldek Hebisch -From: Martin Rubey Date: 05 Dec 2006 20:38:52 +0100 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: severe (!) bug in normalize Dear all, @@ -3440,42 +1845,11 @@ however, difficult to detect. Waldek, am I right that you know normalize a little bit? If you do, PLEASE look into this, it is a real show stopper for me. -Thanks, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrgkK-0004L6-Ry - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:18:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrgkI-0004IF-Cc - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:18:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrgkG-0004GG-WA - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:18:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrgkG-0004GA-TE - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:18:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrgkF-0000P5-Ri - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:18:28 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8046410C6; - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:18:20 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1Grgk8-00036K-IU; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:18:20 +0100 +Date: 05 Dec 2006 21:18:20 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 05 Dec 2006 21:18:20 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev - ---=-=-= Dear Martin, and others... @@ -4301,39 +2675,11 @@ I also must change very few lines in others files. If you want to compile and test it. -Francois - ---=-=-=-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrheR-0002D2-7p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:16:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrheQ-0002Ba-1z - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:16:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrheN-00028q-8o - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:16:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrheN-00028n-1x - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:16:27 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrheM-0001FT-Kb - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:16:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E164F3C1; - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:16:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1GrheJ-0003B5-JJ; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:16:23 +0100 +\start +Date: 05 Dec 2006 22:16:23 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 05 Dec 2006 22:16:23 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Francois Maltey writes: @@ -4385,41 +2731,11 @@ Even with print-spy I don't understand where is the mistake. Hope this help you ! -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GriKI-00034l-Kt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:59:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GriKE-00031D-O0 - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:59:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GriK7-0002wD-0A - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:59:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GriK6-0002vc-No - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:59:34 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GriK5-0000Rc-Mn - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:59:34 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GriK3-0005Mk-Ji; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:59:31 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GriK3-0007JU-GI; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:59:31 +0100 +\start +Date: 05 Dec 2006 22:59:30 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 05 Dec 2006 22:59:30 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Dear Francois, @@ -4511,33 +2827,10 @@ Any ideas? This really calls for unit testing!!! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrjI2-000261-PK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:01:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrjI0-00024w-9A - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:01:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrjHy-00024Z-Bx - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:01:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrjHx-00024Q-Si - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:01:25 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrjHx-0001wJ-Ao - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:01:25 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GrjGK-0000yR-00; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:59:44 +0100 -To: Martin Rubey Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:59:44 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize > Dear all, @@ -4594,38 +2887,11 @@ to transcendental kernels. However, the list passed to goodCoef still contain algebraic kernels, so goodCoef gets confised, and tries to eliminate wrong kernel. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrkRL-0003sd-VL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:15:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrkRJ-0003qg-Dl - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:15:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrkRH-0003pk-P6 - for list; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:15:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrkRH-0003pP-8H; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:15:07 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GrkRG-0004LO-HZ; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:15:07 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GrkRF-0002Eo-00; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:15:05 -0500 +\start +Date: 05 Dec 2006 19:15:05 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Richard Harke Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 - <200611141513.11996.Richard Harke> - <547ixx5t0n.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200612010926.55506.Richard Harke> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 05 Dec 2006 19:15:05 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings, and thanks so much for looking into this! @@ -4937,49 +3203,10 @@ saved_pre_gcl, and try loading a .o file, breaking at fasload and stepping through each of the routines, especially bfd_get_relocated_section_contents). -Take care, and thanks again, - - - -> Richard -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grpi0-00008m-GB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:52:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grphy-00006q-D2 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:52:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grphv-0008UI-Jy - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:52:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Grphv-0008Tu-Ce - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:52:39 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Grphv-0002Zd-Cw - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:52:39 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kB65qrEk003680; - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:52:53 -0600 -From: Tim Daly -Received: (from daly@localhost) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id kB65qrQZ003677; - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:52:53 -0600 +\start Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:52:53 -0600 +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet I see that there is a change to compiler.boot in the sandbox code @@ -5010,45 +3237,16 @@ Tim then modemapList:= eltModemapFilter(LAST argl,modemapList,e) or return nil else - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrqGC-00028a-8r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:28:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrqGA-00028V-Rc - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:28:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrqG8-00028J-9q - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:28:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrqG8-00028G-43 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:28:00 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrqG7-0007KE-Ss - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:28:00 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 221D76827C; - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 01:27:59 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 711E368162; - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 01:27:57 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 01:27:56 -0500 -Thread-Topic: src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet -Thread-Index: AccY+sS0mCXVcsRjRyOaUB99ceF/+gAA58Ag From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet Tim, On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:53 AM you asked: ->=20 +> > I see that there is a change to compiler.boot in the sandbox > code but I don't understand the reason for the change. I'm not > sure who made the change as it is not recorded in the changelog @@ -5067,7 +3265,7 @@ dbox/README.wh > What is the problem that this change is designed to solve? > Is there a test case for it? ->=20 +> Concering revison 319, in ChangeLog.wh I see the following explanation: @@ -5084,66 +3282,38 @@ explanation: xruncomp.boot.pamphlet * src/interp/debugsys.lisp.pamphlet: Likewise. ->=20 +> > = -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +============ > --- sandbox/src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet > +++ daly/src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet > @@ -494,13 +494,12 @@ > T > T -> =20 -> +--------------------> NEW DEFINITION (override in=20 +> +> +--------------------> NEW DEFINITION (override in > xruncomp.boot.pamphlet) -> getFormModemaps(form is [op,:argl],e) =3D=3D -> op is ["elt",domain,op1] =3D> -> [x for x in getFormModemaps([op1,:argl],e) | x is [[=20 -> =3Ddomain,:.],:.]] -> null atom op =3D> nil -> modemapList:=3D get(op,"modemap",e) +> getFormModemaps(form is [op,:argl],e) == +> op is ["elt",domain,op1] => +> [x for x in getFormModemaps([op1,:argl],e) | x is [[ +> =domain,:.],:.]] +> null atom op => nil +> modemapList:= get(op,"modemap",e) > - if $insideCategoryPackageIfTrue then -> - modemapList :=3D [x for x in modemapList | x is=20 -> [[dom,:.],:.] and dom ^=3D '$] -> if op=3D"elt" -> then modemapList:=3D eltModemapFilter(LAST=20 +> - modemapList := [x for x in modemapList | x is +> [[dom,:.],:.] and dom ^= '$] +> if op="elt" +> then modemapList:= eltModemapFilter(LAST > argl,modemapList,e) or return nil > else ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrtvU-0002rx-PU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:22:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrtvQ-0002qp-0y - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:22:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrtvN-0002pl-7c - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:22:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrtvM-0002pc-Pr - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:22:48 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GrtvM-0005rD-Gl - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:22:48 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GrtvJ-0005wL-FA; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:22:45 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GrtvJ-00053c-BY; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:22:45 +0100 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Martin Rubey +> + +\start Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:22:44 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Dear Waldek, @@ -5226,45 +3396,10 @@ I must admit that I do not understand your patch. I assume that it also fixes the correspondence between the vector of coefficients v and the list of kernels l. Why doesn't it fix that rather in expeval and taneval? - - -Martin - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gru1M-0005xD-TI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:29:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gru1J-0005vM-7C - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:28:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gru1H-0005td-HI - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:28:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gru1G-0005t6-AI - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:28:54 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gru1G-0006Mg-41 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:28:54 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gru1E-0006tU-Pf; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:28:52 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gru1E-0005H1-M7; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:28:52 +0100 -To: Martin Rubey - <9qbqmhgw7f.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:28:52 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Another question: @@ -5312,36 +3447,11 @@ ll := [k, :ll] do? I have never seen that before, although grep yields some hits. - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grx46-0007uO-TF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:44:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grx45-0007u8-6j - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:44:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grx43-0007td-LP - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:44:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Grx43-0007ta-Hf - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:43:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Grx43-0000wk-B3 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:43:59 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Grx2U-0004NP-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:42:22 +0100 -Subject: Re: src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet -To: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:42:22 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: src/interp/compiler.boot.pamphlet > I see that there is a change to compiler.boot in the sandbox code > but I don't understand the reason for the change. I'm not sure who @@ -5395,34 +3505,10 @@ look reasonable -- in particular that 'xrun.boot.pamphlet' and 'xruncomp.boot.pamphlet' do represent later developement compared to base files. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxNE-0008Lw-VG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:03:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxND-0008JI-68 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:03:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxNA-0008GB-VY - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:03:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrxNA-0008G1-N9 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:03:44 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrxNA-0005FW-7f - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:03:44 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GrxLb-0006E7-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:02:07 +0100 -To: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:02:07 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -5437,42 +3523,10 @@ This just builds list with head 'k' and tail 'll'. The colon means that we want to "insert" a list -- without colon we would get a two element list, having (value of) 'll' as as the second element. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxWx-0005ec-48 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:13:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxWu-0005d4-Kt - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:13:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxWs-0005bn-MA - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:13:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrxWs-0005bS-6g - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:13:46 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GrxWr-0007Vd-B5 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:13:45 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GrxWn-0001c8-Cb; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:13:41 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GrxWn-00079J-7h; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:13:41 +0100 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 06 Dec 2006 15:13:40 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -5491,34 +3545,10 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: So I guess it really should be replaced with cons(k, ll) since ":" is not defined as a spad function. - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxsN-0006iJ-0P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:35:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxsL-0006hz-1c - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:35:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrxsI-0006hf-J1 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:35:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrxsI-0006hc-DF - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:35:54 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrxsI-0005HI-At - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:35:54 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Grxqg-00005D-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:34:14 +0100 -To: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:34:13 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -5546,34 +3576,10 @@ construct is part of Spad syntax. I considered using 'cons', but it seemed to me that colon syntax is included in Spad to be used. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gryju-0004Gk-Ss - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:31:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gryjt-0004F6-K6 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:31:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gryjs-0004EK-VL - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:31:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gryjs-0004EH-QJ - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:31:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gryjs-0005mP-H9 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:31:16 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GryiJ-0004MA-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:29:39 +0100 -To: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:29:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -5693,42 +3699,10 @@ would duplicate code. To say the truth, fix for your problem is a byproduct -- I simply did not want goodCoef to do wrong things when a simple test could prevent it. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrzIw-0001c5-5A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:07:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrzIt-0001Yf-0E - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:07:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrzIq-0001YS-Dt - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:07:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrzIq-0001YP-84 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:07:24 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GrzIp-0003sg-IO - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:07:23 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GrzIo-0003vX-Ay; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:07:22 +0100 -Received: from kratt3.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.49] - helo=kratt3.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GrzIo-0002mG-7P; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:07:22 +0100 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 06 Dec 2006 17:07:21 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -5784,40 +3758,10 @@ what the variables are. Do you know the assumptions needed for RischNormalize? I wonder whether SumIt is a similar mess. - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grzj5-0003nd-Sg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:34:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grzj3-0003n2-FN - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:34:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Grzj1-0003mC-Eh - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:34:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Grzj1-0003m9-AH - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:34:27 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Grzj1-0008RU-3c - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:34:27 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.118] (hemmecke@woodpecker-wlan.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.118]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kB6GYEkG008504 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:34:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:34:59 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: aldor-l@aldor.org, Peter Broadbery, - axiom-dev -Cc: +To: Peter Broadbery Subject: export to vs. export from Can somebody explain the difference between Aldor's @@ -5844,39 +3788,10 @@ it prints as export to UniversalSegment(%) -Thanks - -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrzlK-0005F4-Jd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:36:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrzlI-0005Eh-VN - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:36:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GrzlF-0005EU-EX - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:36:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrzlF-0005ER-90 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:36:45 -0500 -Received: from [129.100.16.102] (helo=ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GrzlF-0000EI-6Q - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:36:45 -0500 -Received: from ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kB6GahYp026952; - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:36:43 -0500 -Received: (from watt@localhost) - by ptibonum.scl.csd.uwo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id kB6GahQN026950; - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:36:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:36:43 -0500 From: Stephen Watt To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l@aldor.org Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] export to vs. export from "export from" is correct. @@ -5907,45 +3822,12 @@ On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 05:34:59PM +0100, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > it prints as > > export to UniversalSegment(%) -> -> Thanks -> -> Ralf -> _______________________________________________ -> Aldor-l mailing list -> Aldor-l@aldor.org -> http://www.aldor.org/mailman/listinfo/aldor-l - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gs0wC-0004BD-Cq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:52:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gs0w9-00048T-Ux - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:52:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gs0w8-00046b-M9 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:52:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gs0w8-00046M-2w - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:52:04 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gs0w8-0004Ww-59 - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:52:04 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1129E4F3D4; - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:51:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1Gs0w4-0001lK-Vx; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:52:01 +0100 + +\start +Date: 06 Dec 2006 18:52:00 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey To: Martin Rubey Subject: re: severe (!) bug in normalize - <9qac21qa86.fsf@kratt3.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 06 Dec 2006 18:52:00 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Hello Martin and Waldek, @@ -6019,34 +3901,10 @@ The contract operator over power simplifies also z^a z^-a in 1. Of corse (1/z)^a is forbidden : try with z=-1 and a=1/2 ! -Have a nice evening ! - -Francois. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gs2b0-0001kQ-0L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:38:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gs2ay-0001jA-CA - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:38:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gs2ax-0001ib-Ko - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:38:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gs2ax-0001iS-GR - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:38:19 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gs2ax-0006Gt-6m - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:38:19 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gs2ZL-00059B-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:36:39 +0100 -To: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:36:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -6124,37 +3982,9 @@ of kernels such simple problem can not happen in Axiom. But (sqrt(2)*sqrt(3)-sqrt(6))*exp(x) already hints towards possible problems. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GsATs-00088s-Gh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:03:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GsATq-00088R-LF - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:03:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GsATo-000887-NZ - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:03:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GsATo-000884-IE - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:03:28 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GsATo-0005z3-3b - for list; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:03:28 -0500 -Received: from axiom-developer.org (lincoln.rosehosting.com [127.0.0.1]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kB743fEk004164 - for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:03:41 -0600 -From: Tim Daly -Received: (from daly@localhost) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id kB743fNa004161; - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:03:41 -0600 +\start Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:03:41 -0600 +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: French Open Source Center of Excellence @@ -6164,40 +3994,10 @@ at University of Paris 7, is the group lead. Wonder if they have any interest in computer algebra? -t - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GsHo4-000125-EE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 06:52:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GsHo1-00010V-Ue - for list; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 06:52:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GsHnr-0000v2-0P - for list; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 06:52:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GsHnq-0000ux-Rv - for list; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 06:52:38 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GsHnq-0004fI-PQ - for list; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 06:52:39 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GsHnU-00009l-WF; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:52:17 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GsHnT-0002Wr-La; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:52:16 +0100 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 07 Dec 2006 12:52:09 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Dear Waldek, @@ -6257,37 +4057,10 @@ Yes. In fact, I meanwhile think that it is not a problem, apart from the fact that axiom lacks domains UnivariateExpression and MultivariateExpression analogous to the polynomial domains. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gspim-00059X-V3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:05:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gspil-000581-Ib - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:05:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gspik-00056Z-Mv - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:05:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gspik-00056N-EG - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:05:38 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gspij-0002Wn-Su - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:05:38 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kB905YkG024065 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 01:05:35 +0100 Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 01:05:32 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: conditional exports Hello, @@ -6345,31 +4118,10 @@ Array(S: Type): with { } == IndexedOneDimensionalArray(S, 0$Integer) add {} ---END csaxcompat.as - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gsq3W-0000WY-At - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:27:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gsq3U-0000Vz-SC - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:27:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gsq3U-0000VM-3W - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:27:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gsq3T-0000Uu-Sc - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gsq3T-0007SA-Dk - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:27:03 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gsq1q-0002fQ-00; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 01:25:22 +0100 -To: Martin Rubey Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 01:25:22 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -6425,34 +4177,10 @@ x and y and we normalize first in x we use parts depending on y before they are normalized. AFAICS correct version would normalize simultaneously in all variables. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GsqgA-0003XM-VH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:07:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gsqg9-0003X0-5Z - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:07:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gsqg7-0003V9-Eg - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:07:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gsqg7-0003V6-73 - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:06:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gsqg6-0005ap-Pe - for list; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:06:59 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gsqeb-0005QW-00 - for ; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 02:05:25 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 02:05:25 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Nag libraries I recently tried removing NAG related domains. After removing about 100 @@ -6466,35 +4194,10 @@ substitute some other numeriacal library in place of the Nag library. ATM I do not know how much work is needed to get 'nagd' and 'naglink' running but hopefully this may be easy. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt0P0-0001WY-O7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:29:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt0Oy-0001W4-PD - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:29:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt0Ow-0001VN-Uu - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:29:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gt0Ow-0001VK-QE - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:29:54 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.146.161] (helo=mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gt0Ow-000276-3U - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:29:54 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - by post.webmailer.de (klopstock mo23) (RZmta 3.8) with ESMTP - id iB98r7PX03515B for ; - Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:29:52 +0100 (MET) +\start Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:29:52 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: conditional exports Hello, @@ -6552,40 +4255,10 @@ Array(S: Type): with { } == IndexedOneDimensionalArray(S, 0$Integer) add {} ---END csaxcompat.as - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt3Ay-00049s-LM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:27:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt3Aw-00049A-PK - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:27:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt3At-00047S-JZ - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:27:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gt3As-00047K-Tt - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:27:34 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gt3As-00046N-MR - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 09:27:34 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gt3Ao-0000Ao-JM; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:27:30 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gt3Ao-0006VR-Fz; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:27:30 +0100 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Martin Rubey Date: 09 Dec 2006 15:27:29 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Martin Rubey +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: severe (!) bug in normalize Dear Waldek, @@ -6652,36 +4325,10 @@ division, though. Is this possible? - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt9Wz-0003YB-Hc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:14:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt9Wy-0003XY-7y - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:14:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt9Wv-0003W3-Hr - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:14:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gt9Wv-0003Vz-FH - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:14:45 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.146.160] (helo=mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gt9Wv-0000uX-4F - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:14:45 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - by post.webmailer.de (klopstock mo9) (RZmta 3.8) with ESMTP id - iB9Kijfl05678T - for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:14:44 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:14:44 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Generator in Axiom Does somebody know how I can make "Generator" available in Axiom? @@ -6698,33 +4345,10 @@ stream: Generator S -> % Please don't tell me that it is currently impossible. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt9oq-00050v-Rt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:33:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt9op-00050n-Ff - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:33:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gt9om-00050V-Sm - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:33:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gt9om-00050S-OU - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:33:12 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.146.162] (helo=mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gt9om-0004hI-Hn - for list; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:33:12 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - by post.webmailer.de (klopstock mo15) (RZmta 3.8) with ESMTP - id iB9KijZi05599C for ; - Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:33:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:33:11 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: No-String Hello, @@ -6751,35 +4375,10 @@ l: ACList(ACString) := ["a", "b"] Any help to "unexpose" String, Integer, SingleInteger, MachineInteger, and Character is very much appreciated. -Thank you -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtOci-0007b5-CR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:21:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtOcf-0007YZ-Rk - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:21:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtOcZ-0007R9-3U - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:21:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtOcY-0007QA-6R - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:21:34 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.146.160] (helo=mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtOcX-0002BI-Vj - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:21:34 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo44) (RZmta 3.8) with ESMTP id - iBACZ3ed00c65E - for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:21:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:21:31 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Generator <---> Stream Since nobody answered my previous Generator question, here is another @@ -6835,40 +4434,12 @@ for t in g repeat .... does not work inside Axiom. :-( -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtRLx-0006aP-6j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:16:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtRLv-0006Zf-PU - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:16:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtRLu-0006ZE-3q - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:16:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtRLt-0006ZB-W4; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:16:34 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GtRLt-0005ho-NO; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:16:33 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-25.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.25]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBAGGTKW028965; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:16:30 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 1A0351AA11; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:16:29 -0600 (CST) -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Dec 2006 10:16:28 -0600 -Cc: gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Axiom/GCL on windows - -Hi, - I have made some progress on getting Axiom compile on Windows (mingw/msys). First, there is a pending issue with compiler::link and rsym (which I @@ -7020,33 +4591,11 @@ Suggestions? ;; here is a test for XDR - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtRp7-0005oR-Dr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:46:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtRp5-0005o2-Fs - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:46:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtRp3-0005nq-QA - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:46:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtRp3-0005nn-LD - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:46:41 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtRp3-00037f-GQ - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:46:41 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-43-205.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-43-205.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.197.205]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 789931C000BD; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:46:39 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: No-String -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:47:04 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: No-String Hello Ralf, @@ -7076,7 +4625,7 @@ need to be cleaned up I think. As far as I know only one default type can be modified, the default type for floating point numbers. If you issue in the interpreter: -)boot $useBFasDefault:=3Dfalse +)boot $useBFasDefault:=false or in Lisp @@ -7090,69 +4639,36 @@ the type. Greg -Le samedi 09 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:33 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit :=20 +Le samedi 09 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:33 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > Hello, ->=20 -> Since Axiom does not understand domains that are extended via Aldor, I=20 -> had to use another name. So now I have an ACString (defined in a .as=20 -> file) which has the same exports as String + some additional ones. In=20 +> +> Since Axiom does not understand domains that are extended via Aldor, I +> had to use another name. So now I have an ACString (defined in a .as +> file) which has the same exports as String + some additional ones. In > fact, I don't need to see String anymore on the Axiom command line. ->=20 +> > I'd like to have that typing ->=20 -> s :=3D "I am a string" ->=20 +> +> s := "I am a string" +> > returns s of type ACString and not of type String. ->=20 +> > Of course, ->=20 -> s: ACString :=3D "blah" ->=20 +> +> s: ACString := "blah" +> > already works, but the problem is ->=20 -> l: ACList(ACString) :=3D ["a", "b"] ->=20 -> Any help to "unexpose" String, Integer, SingleInteger, MachineInteger,=20 +> +> l: ACList(ACString) := ["a", "b"] +> +> Any help to "unexpose" String, Integer, SingleInteger, MachineInteger, > and Character is very much appreciated. ->=20 -> Thank you -> Ralf ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtTKh-0002DC-PD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:23:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtTKf-0002Cd-Ou - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:23:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtTKe-0002BD-8x - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:23:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtTKe-0002B0-2x - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:23:24 -0500 -Received: from [81.169.146.161] (helo=mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtTKd-0004A2-Ov - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:23:24 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo3) (RZmta 3.8) with ESMTP id - iBAEXhFi00c1eN; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:23:22 +0100 (MET) + +\start Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:23:22 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: No-String -Cc: axiom-dev Dear Greg, @@ -7223,40 +4739,12 @@ Axiom. This one I don't understand. But since I am not interested in modifying anything connected to floats, there is no need to explain. -Best regards -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtURW-0008U6-Cr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:34:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtURU-0008Tq-AA - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:34:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtURT-0008Te-N6 - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:34:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtURT-0008Tb-KX - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:34:31 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtURT-0001Oz-Kt - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:34:31 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-25.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.25]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBAJYRKW013917; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:34:28 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 4E8F91AA11; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:34:27 -0600 (CST) -To: Tim Daly -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Dec 2006 13:34:27 -0600 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: gazonk-name - - Tim -- What is the role of the following function? (from src/interp/util.lisp) @@ -7275,63 +4763,38 @@ Tim -- What is it trying to achieve and why? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtV2M-0000rf-Pk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:12:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtV2L-0000qu-3d - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:12:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtV2K-0000qQ-9k - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:12:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtV2K-0000qL-3P - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:12:36 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtV2J-0000gN-PJ - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:12:36 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-43-205.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-43-205.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.197.205]) - by mwinf1926.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A81B61C00097; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:12:34 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: No-String -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <457C50A0.4030301@hemmecke.de> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:13:00 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: No-String Le dimanche 10 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 19:23 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > Dear Greg, ->=20 +> > > )lisp (setq |$String| '(|MyString|)) ->=20 -> Wonderful. Thank you. That seems to do what I want. I don't care much=20 -> about the SPAD compiler. And in the interpreter I want to see only=20 -> MyString anyway, because it actually is String only that I have=20 +> +> Wonderful. Thank you. That seems to do what I want. I don't care much +> about the SPAD compiler. And in the interpreter I want to see only +> MyString anyway, because it actually is String only that I have > "extend"ed its functionality. ->=20 +> > (1) -> )lib cscombinatversion csaxcompat > (1) -> )lisp (setq |$String| '(|ACString|)) > (1) -> -> Value =3D (|ACString|) +> Value = (|ACString|) > )lisp (setq |$String| '(|MyString|)) -> (1) -> l: ACList(ACString) :=3D ["a", "b"] +> (1) -> l: ACList(ACString) := ["a", "b"] > (1) ["a","b"] > Type: ACList ACString ->=20 +> > Of course, I have to test that more carefully. Yes that works only because they are internally Lisp strings and your implementation use this representation (as String). > What are the corresponding variables for ->=20 +> > SingleInteger > Character @@ -7354,66 +4817,33 @@ to create a set in the interpreter without the set function. Sorry, as far as I know what you're doing can be done only with String, Integer, PositiveInteger and Integer (|$String|, |$Integer| etc...) but -I repeat, don't do that :-), the behavior of Axiom becomes undefined.=20 +I repeat, don't do that :-), the behavior of Axiom becomes undefined. [...] -> Clear, but I like more that way the Aldor compiler handles that. The=20 -> only knowledge it has is that for something that looks like a float,=20 +> Clear, but I like more that way the Aldor compiler handles that. The +> only knowledge it has is that for something that looks like a float, > integer or a string it has to call functions ->=20 +> > float: Literal -> % > integer: Literal -> % > string: Literal -> % ->=20 +> > from whatever domains are currently in scope. ->=20 -> So my understanding was that if I expose MyString and unexpose String,=20 +> +> So my understanding was that if I expose MyString and unexpose String, > everything should be fine. Both have a string function but only the one= -=20 -> from MyString is now visible to the interpreter. That would be nice in=20 + +> from MyString is now visible to the interpreter. That would be nice in > Axiom. I don't know how Aldor works, but I prefer, too, the way Aldor handles this. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtVxl-0000Uu-Rs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:11:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtVxk-0000Tp-N5 - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:11:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtVxk-0000T1-0a - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:11:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtVxj-0000St-TY - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:11:55 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GtVxj-0004fc-M8 - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:11:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-233-73.zoominternet.net [72.23.233.73]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kBALC1Ds013404; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:12:02 -0600 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (tower [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBB98xYk013000; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:09:00 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kBB98xfv012997; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:08:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:08:59 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Reis on 10 Dec 2006 13:34:27 -0600) -Cc: list Subject: Re: gazonk-name I didn't bother to document "the why" :-) . The AKCL compiler @@ -7445,43 +4875,10 @@ he likely fixed it in AKCL/GCL. (error "1000 gazonk names used already!")) - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtYX4-0002vv-0U - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:56:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtYX1-0002vK-SP - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:56:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtYX1-0002v8-1y - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:56:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtYX0-0002uy-PL - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:56:30 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtYX0-0004HE-Pr - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:56:30 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3BDC72C3; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:56:29 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 03737-22; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:56:24 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1371C7194; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:56:22 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCA746DE01; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:56:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:56:22 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly - <200612110908.kBB98xfv012997@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: gazonk-name On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, root wrote: @@ -7521,38 +4918,12 @@ It is fixed in GCL in pseudo "randomized way" -- GCL could use mkstemp It is now OK to remove Axiom's work-around. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gta42-0007iT-23 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:34:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gta3z-0007go-V6 - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:34:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gta3z-0007gD-97 - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:34:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gta3z-0007g6-0A; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:34:39 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gta3y-0008Nu-7I; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:34:39 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-23.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.23]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBB1YVKW010882; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:34:31 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 990431AA11; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:34:26 -0600 (CST) -To: Camm Maguire -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Dec 2006 19:34:26 -0600 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire Subject: GCL in batch mode - Camm -- I'm wondering what the behaviour of "gcl -batch" is. The info page @@ -7595,37 +4966,11 @@ to configure scripts trying to get some information about GCL installation. Can we convince GCL to have -batch deliver whatever is printed by the lisp expression? --- Gaby - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtcy7-00046r-VO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:40:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtcy6-00045X-CA - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:40:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtcy5-00044b-De - for list; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:40:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtcy5-00044U-7m; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:40:45 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gtcy5-0000LT-6V; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:40:45 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-23.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.23]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBB4efKW025689; - Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:40:41 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id DC8EB1AA11; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:40:39 -0600 (CST) -To: Bill Page Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 10 Dec 2006 22:40:39 -0600 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -7653,36 +4998,11 @@ Bill -- necessary bits to build Axiom on windows and reproduce the above. Please could you give it a try? -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtess-0005hl-IM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:43:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtesr-0005hM-6G - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:43:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtesn-0005d6-VR - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:43:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtesn-0005cr-Ov - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:43:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.218.130.236] (helo=mail.xmt.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtesn-0002wW-Iy - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:43:25 -0500 -Received: (qmail 58409 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2006 06:43:02 -0000 +Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 07:43:02 +0100 From: Gernot Hueber To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Nag libraries -Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 07:43:02 +0100 -Cc: list Hi Waldek, @@ -7711,46 +5031,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: > substitute some other numeriacal library in place of the Nag library. > ATM I do not know how much work is needed to get 'nagd' and 'naglink' > running but hopefully this may be easy. -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtj15-00051X-W1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:08:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtj11-0004zF-VM - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:08:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtj0z-0004xb-RP - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:08:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtj0z-0004xE-8l - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:08:09 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtj0y-0002tv-KK - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:08:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1114F411 - for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:08:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1Gtj0v-0001aH-Sj - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:08:05 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 11 Dec 2006 12:08:05 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: Interest of the second parameter in normalize Hello, @@ -7771,42 +5056,12 @@ recognize it's simplified coefficients. Am I right ? So what is the interest of normalize (expr, x) in front of normalize (expr) ? If then axiom must normalize theses coefficients. I don't understand. -Have a nice week. - -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtjm9-000061-WF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:56:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtjm8-0008W5-4L - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:56:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtjm6-0008Td-3c - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:56:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtjm5-0008TO-P4 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:56:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.231.145.242] (helo=nagmx1.nag.co.uk) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtjm5-0003Wj-EW - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:56:49 -0500 -Received: from edinburgh.nag.co.uk (edinburgh.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.171]) - by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3912120077; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:56:48 +0000 (GMT) -Received: from edinburgh.nag.co.uk (edinburgh.nag.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) - by edinburgh.nag.co.uk (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id kBBBulIt029518; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:56:47 GMT -Received: (from miked@localhost) - by edinburgh.nag.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id kBBBulh3029517; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:56:47 GMT +\start Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:56:47 +0000 From: Mike Dewar To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Nag libraries -Cc: Mike Dewar, list +Cc: Mike Dewar Personally I wouldn't use nagd - it dates from a time before dynamic linking was a practical approach and when a typical user's machine was @@ -7828,53 +5083,13 @@ On Sat, Dec 09, 2006 at 02:05:25AM +0100, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > substitute some other numeriacal library in place of the Nag library. > ATM I do not know how much work is needed to get 'nagd' and 'naglink' > running but hopefully this may be easy. -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> ________________________________________________________________________ -> This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. 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For more information on a proactive -> anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: -> http://www.star.net.uk -> ________________________________________________________________________ - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtndx-000848-HG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:04:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtndu-000818-Fd - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:04:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtndp-0007zj-H7 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:04:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtndp-0007zg-9y; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:04:33 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.109] (helo=mail289.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gtndo-0003sA-Sy; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:04:33 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail289.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBBG3lsS017653; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:04:04 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows + +\start Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:03:30 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, 'Bill Page' Bill Page, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows +Cc: Bill Page On December 10, 2006 11:41 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -7913,49 +5128,12 @@ with no problems. Can you give me some more specifics about how you are testing this on windows? -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtoCZ-0008S7-2j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:40:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtoCW-0008P7-T9 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:40:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtoCU-0008MU-TJ - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:40:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtoCU-0008M8-Fq - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:40:22 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtoCT-00032g-Ut - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:40:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7850DC72EC; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:40:18 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 20734-11-2; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:40:14 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CCDC7536; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:40:14 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D579046DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:40:13 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:40:13 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: list, 'Bill Page' Bill Page, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Bill Page On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -8017,38 +5195,11 @@ I pretty much do the same thing as you. Could you send me the (partial) config.log? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtq6x-00077e-D3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtq6v-000778-Ds - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtq6s-00075o-KV - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtq6s-00075l-GZ - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:42 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.26] (helo=smtp20.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtq6s-0006Bc-7A - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:42:42 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-96-221.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-96-221.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.93.221]) - by mwinf2028.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 631F31C000DE; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:42:39 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:42:39 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Le dimanche 10 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 10:16 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9cri= -t : +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows [...] @@ -8060,7 +5211,7 @@ t : > Using local database ../../../axiom.bi/src/share/algebra/compress.da= ase.. Re-reading compress.daase Using local database ../../../axiom.b= i/src/share/algebra/interp.daase.. Re-reading interp.daase ->=20 +> > Error: Caught fatal error [memory may be damaged] > Fast links are on: do (si::use-fast-links nil) for debugging > Error signalled by RETURN. @@ -8096,99 +5247,99 @@ the path that I want :-) and I had, last week, some problems with the 'start' function (this is the function that display startup messages and triggers your bug). -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +==================== Variables and their definitions in AxiomForWindows when building Axiom in the /home/greg/AxiomOnWindows directory -SPAD=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt/ SYS=3D -SPD=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows -LSP=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/lsp -GCLDIR=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/lsp/gcl-2.6.5w -SRC=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/src -INT=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/int -OBJ=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/obj -MNT=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt -ZIPS=3D/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/zips -TMP=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/obj/tmp -SPADBIN=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt//bin -INC=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/src/include -CCLBASE=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/obj//ccl/ccllisp -PART=3Dcprogs SUBPART=3Deverything NOISE=3D-o +SPAD=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt/ SYS= +SPD=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows +LSP=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/lsp +GCLDIR=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/lsp/gcl-2.6.5w +SRC=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/src +INT=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/int +OBJ=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/obj +MNT=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt +ZIPS=/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/zips +TMP=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/obj/tmp +SPADBIN=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt//bin +INC=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/src/include +CCLBASE=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/obj//ccl/ccllisp +PART=cprogs SUBPART=everything NOISE=-o C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/obj/tmp/trace -GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.5w -TANGLE=3DC:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt//bin/lib/notangle - - -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D - -SPD=3D$(shell pwd -W) -SYS=3D$(notdir $(AXIOM)) -SPAD=3D${SPD}/mnt/${SYS} -LSP=3D${SPD}/lsp -#GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.4.1 -#GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.5 -#GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.5.2 -#GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.1 -#GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.2 -#GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.2a -#GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.3 -GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.5w -AWK=3Dgawk -GCLDIR=3D${LSP}/${GCLVERSION} -SRC=3D${SPD}/src -INT=3D${SPD}/int -OBJ=3D${SPD}/obj -MNT=3D${SPD}/mnt -ZIPS=3D${shell pwd}/zips -TMP=3D${OBJ}/tmp -SPADBIN=3D${MNT}/${SYS}/bin -INC=3D${SPD}/src/include -CCLBASE=3D${OBJ}/${SYS}/ccl/ccllisp -INSTALL=3D/usr/local/axiom -COMMAND=3D${INSTALL}/mnt/${SYS}/bin/axiom -TANGLE=3D${SPADBIN}/lib/notangle - -NOISE=3D"-o ${TMP}/trace" - -PART=3D cprogs -SUBPART=3D everything - - -ENV=3D SPAD=3D${SPAD} SYS=3D${SYS} SPD=3D${SPD} LSP=3D${LSP} GCLDIR=3D${G= +GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.5w +TANGLE=C:/MinGW/MSYS/home/greg/AxiomOnWindows/mnt//bin/lib/notangle + + +=============== ======= +=========== +=============== Makefile ======= +=========== +=============== ======= +=========== + +SPD=$(shell pwd -W) +SYS=$(notdir $(AXIOM)) +SPAD=${SPD}/mnt/${SYS} +LSP=${SPD}/lsp +#GCLVERSION=gcl-2.4.1 +#GCLVERSION=gcl-2.5 +#GCLVERSION=gcl-2.5.2 +#GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.1 +#GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.2 +#GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.2a +#GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.3 +GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.5w +AWK=gawk +GCLDIR=${LSP}/${GCLVERSION} +SRC=${SPD}/src +INT=${SPD}/int +OBJ=${SPD}/obj +MNT=${SPD}/mnt +ZIPS=${shell pwd}/zips +TMP=${OBJ}/tmp +SPADBIN=${MNT}/${SYS}/bin +INC=${SPD}/src/include +CCLBASE=${OBJ}/${SYS}/ccl/ccllisp +INSTALL=/usr/local/axiom +COMMAND=${INSTALL}/mnt/${SYS}/bin/axiom +TANGLE=${SPADBIN}/lib/notangle + +NOISE="-o ${TMP}/trace" + +PART= cprogs +SUBPART= everything + + +ENV= SPAD=${SPAD} SYS=${SYS} SPD=${SPD} LSP=${LSP} GCLDIR=${G= CLDIR} \ - SRC=3D${SRC} INT=3D${INT} OBJ=3D${OBJ} MNT=3D${MNT} ZIPS=3D${ZIPS} T= -MP=3D${TMP} + SRC=${SRC} INT=${INT} OBJ=${OBJ} MNT=${MNT} ZIPS=${ZIPS} T= +MP=${TMP} \ - SPADBIN=3D${SPADBIN} INC=3D${INC} CCLBASE=3D${CCLBASE} PART=3D${PART= + SPADBIN=${SPADBIN} INC=${INC} CCLBASE=${CCLBASE} PART=${PART= } \ - SUBPART=3D${SUBPART} NOISE=3D${NOISE} GCLVERSION=3D${GCLVERSION} \ - TANGLE=3D${TANGLE}=20 + SUBPART=${SUBPART} NOISE=${NOISE} GCLVERSION=${GCLVERSION} \ + TANGLE=${TANGLE} all: noweb litcmds -@ echo 1 making a ${SYS} system, PART=3D${PART} SUBPART=3D${SUBPART} +@ echo 1 making a ${SYS} system, PART=${PART} SUBPART=${SUBPART} @ echo 2 Environment ${ENV} @ ${TANGLE} -t8 -RMakefile.${SYS} Makefile.pamphlet >Makefile.${SYS} -@ ${ENV} $(MAKE) -f Makefile.${SYS}=20 +@ ${ENV} $(MAKE) -f Makefile.${SYS} @echo 3 finished system build on `date` | tee >lastBuildDate start: noweb litcmds book: -@ echo 79 building the book as ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc/book.dvi=20 +@ echo 79 building the book as ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc/book.dvi @ mkdir -p ${TMP} @ mkdir -p ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc @ cp ${SRC}/doc/book.pamphlet ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc @ cp -pr ${SRC}/doc/ps ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc @ (cd ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc ; \ - if [ .${NOISE} =3D . ] ; then \ + if [ .${NOISE} = . ] ; then \ ( latex book.pamphlet --interaction nonstopmode ; \ latex book.pamphlet --interaction nonstopmode ) ; \ else \ @@ -8199,7 +5350,7 @@ book: rm book.toc ; \ rm book.log ; \ rm book.aux ) -@ echo 80 The book is at ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc/book.dvi=20 +@ echo 80 The book is at ${MNT}/${SYS}/doc/book.dvi noweb: @echo 13 making noweb @@ -8213,9 +5364,9 @@ patch <${ZIPS}/noweb.modules.c.patch ; \ cd ${OBJ}/noweb/src ; \ ./awkname ${AWK} ; \ patch <${ZIPS}/noweb.src.Makefile.patch ; \ -${ENV} ${MAKE} BIN=3D${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/lib LIB=3D${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/lib \ - MAN=3D${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/man \ - TEXINPUTS=3D${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/tex all install +${ENV} ${MAKE} BIN=${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/lib LIB=${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/lib \ + MAN=${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/man \ + TEXINPUTS=${MNT}/${SYS}/bin/tex all install >${TMP}/trace ) @echo The file marks the fact that noweb has been made > noweb @@ -8233,28 +5384,28 @@ install: @echo 78 installing Axiom in ${INSTALL} @mkdir -p ${INSTALL} @cp -pr ${MNT} ${INSTALL} -@echo AXIOM=3D${INSTALL}/mnt/${SYS} >${COMMAND} +@echo AXIOM=${INSTALL}/mnt/${SYS} >${COMMAND} @cat ${SRC}/etc/axiom >>${COMMAND} @chmod +x ${COMMAND} @echo 79 Axiom installation finished. @echo @echo Please add $(shell dirname ${COMMAND}) to your PATH variable @echo Start Axiom with the command $(shell basename ${COMMAND}) -@echo=20 +@echo document: noweb litcmds -@ echo 4 making a ${SYS} system, PART=3D${PART} SUBPART=3D${SUBPART} +@ echo 4 making a ${SYS} system, PART=${PART} SUBPART=${SUBPART} @ echo 5 Environment ${ENV} @ ${TANGLE} -t8 -RMakefile.${SYS} Makefile.pamphlet >Makefile.${SYS} @ ${ENV} $(MAKE) -f Makefile.${SYS} document @echo 6 finished system build on `date` | tee >lastBuildDate clean: noweb litcmds -@ echo 7 making a ${SYS} system, PART=3D${PART} SUBPART=3D${SUBPART} +@ echo 7 making a ${SYS} system, PART=${PART} SUBPART=${SUBPART} @ echo 8 Environment ${ENV} @ ${TANGLE} -t8 -RMakefile.${SYS} Makefile.pamphlet >Makefile.${SYS} @ ${ENV} $(MAKE) -f Makefile.${SYS} clean -@ rm -f noweb=20 +@ rm -f noweb @ rm -f *~ @echo 9 finished system build on `date` | tee >lastBuildDate @@ -8262,20 +5413,20 @@ clean: noweb litcmds -$spadroot is set to a unix path (/some/where)=20 +$spadroot is set to a unix path (/some/where) -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 ->=20 +> ========================= +==== +> +> > To get to that point I have to disable calls to apply the patch (at > the end of this message) to src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet. ->=20 +> > Suggestions? ->=20 +> > -- Gaby ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > *** usbdisk_2/cas/axiom/bi/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-30 = 15:51:12.000000000 -0600 > --- usbdisk/axiom.bi/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet 2006-12-10 08:59:= @@ -8284,7 +5435,7 @@ $spadroot is set to a unix path (/some/where)=20 > *** 342,352 **** > (setq returncode 0)) > (unless (zerop returncode) (bye returncode))))) -> =20 +> > ! #+:dos > (setq vmlisp::$current-directory (truename ".")) > #+:dos @@ -8292,11 +5443,11 @@ $spadroot is set to a unix path (/some/where)=20 > ! #+:dos > (defun user-homedir-pathname () > (truename ".")) -> =20 +> > --- 342,352 ---- > (setq returncode 0)) > (unless (zerop returncode) (bye returncode))))) -> =20 +> > ! #+(or :dos :win32) > (setq vmlisp::$current-directory (truename ".")) > #+:dos @@ -8304,124 +5455,85 @@ $spadroot is set to a unix path (/some/where)=20 > ! #+(or :dos :win32) > (defun user-homedir-pathname () > (truename ".")) -> =20 +> > *************** previous definition. > *** 379,385 **** -> =20 +> > (defun |makeList| (size el) (make-list size :initial-element el) ) -> =20 +> > ! #+:akcl > (defun print-xdr-stream (x y z) (format y "XDR:~A" (xdr-stream-name x= ))) > #+:akcl > (defstruct (xdr-stream > --- 379,385 ---- -> =20 +> > (defun |makeList| (size el) (make-list size :initial-element el) ) -> =20 +> > ! #+:ackl -> (defun print-xdr-stream (x y z) (format y "XDR:~A" (xdr-stream-name x= -))) +> (defun print-xdr-stream (x y z) (format y "XDR:~A" (xdr-stream-name x))) > #+:akcl > (defstruct (xdr-stream > *************** previous definition. > *** 387,411 **** -> "A structure to hold XDR streams. The stream is printed ou= -t." -> (handle ) ;; this is what is used for xdr-open xdr-read xd= -r-write +> "A structure to hold XDR streams. The stream is printed out." +> (handle ) ;; this is what is used for xdr-open xdr-read xdr-write > (name )) ;; this is used for printing > ! #+:akcl -> (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (make-xdr-stream :handle (system:xdr-open = -str) :name str)) +> (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (make-xdr-stream :handle (system:xdr-open str) :name str)) > #+:CCL > (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (xdr-open str dir) ) > ! #+:dos > (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (format t "xdrOpen called")) -> =20 +> > ! #+:akcl -> (defun |xdrRead| (xstr r) (system:xdr-read (xdr-stream-handle xstr) r= -) ) +> (defun |xdrRead| (xstr r) (system:xdr-read (xdr-stream-handle xstr) r) ) > #+:CCL > (defun |xdrRead| (xstr r) (xdr-read xstr r) ) > ! #+:dos > (defun |xdrRead| (str) (format t "xdrRead called")) -> =20 +> > ! #+:akcl -> (defun |xdrWrite| (xstr d) (system:xdr-write (xdr-stream-handle xstr)= - d) ) +> (defun |xdrWrite| (xstr d) (system:xdr-write (xdr-stream-handle xstr) d) ) > #+:CCL > (defun |xdrWrite| (xstr d) (xdr-write xstr d) ) > ! #+:dos > (defun |xdrWrite| (str) (format t "xdrWrite called")) -> =20 +> > ;; here is a test for XDR > --- 387,411 ---- -> "A structure to hold XDR streams. The stream is printed ou= -t." -> (handle ) ;; this is what is used for xdr-open xdr-read xd= -r-write +> "A structure to hold XDR streams. The stream is printed out." +> (handle ) ;; this is what is used for xdr-open xdr-read xdr-write > (name )) ;; this is used for printing > ! #+(and :akcl (not (or :dos :win32))) -> (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (make-xdr-stream :handle (system:xdr-open = -str) :name str)) +> (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (make-xdr-stream :handle (system:xdr-open str) :name str)) > #+:CCL > (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (xdr-open str dir) ) > ! #+(or :dos :win32) > (defun |xdrOpen| (str dir) (format t "xdrOpen called")) -> =20 +> > ! #+(and :akcl (not (or :dos :win32))) -> (defun |xdrRead| (xstr r) (system:xdr-read (xdr-stream-handle xstr) r= -) ) +> (defun |xdrRead| (xstr r) (system:xdr-read (xdr-stream-handle xstr) r) ) > #+:CCL > (defun |xdrRead| (xstr r) (xdr-read xstr r) ) > ! #+(or :dos :win32) > (defun |xdrRead| (str) (format t "xdrRead called")) -> =20 +> > ! #+(and :akcl (not (or :dos :win32))) -> (defun |xdrWrite| (xstr d) (system:xdr-write (xdr-stream-handle xstr)= - d) ) +> (defun |xdrWrite| (xstr d) (system:xdr-write (xdr-stream-handle xstr) d) ) > #+:CCL > (defun |xdrWrite| (xstr d) (xdr-write xstr d) ) > ! #+(or :dos :win32) > (defun |xdrWrite| (str) (format t "xdrWrite called")) -> =20 +> > ;; here is a test for XDR ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqYH-0002T6-S5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:11:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqYF-0002Qs-Qx - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:10:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqYD-0002Nt-Rm - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:10:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqYD-0002Nq-Ou; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:10:57 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GtqYD-0005mK-HI; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:10:57 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GtqW5-0002g9-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:08:45 +0100 -Subject: Re: GCL in batch mode -To: Gabriel Dos Reis + +\start Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:08:45 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: GCL in batch mode +Cc: Camm Maguire > > Camm -- @@ -8444,48 +5556,12 @@ input. For me the following works: gcl -batch -eval '(format t "~a~&" si::*system-directory*)' --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqZt-0004GL-8a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:12:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqZr-0004FP-Gu - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:12:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqZq-0004EX-Qr - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:12:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtqZq-0004EJ-JI - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:12:38 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtqZq-0006AK-98 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:12:38 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDC41656; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:12:37 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 12664-22; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:12:31 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C0F7C1; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:12:31 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F74B46DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:12:31 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:12:30 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: GCL in batch mode -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -8513,37 +5589,12 @@ On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Waldek Hebisch wrote: Interesting. I tried that combination too; it did not work -- which perplexed me. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqfY-0007Rs-PT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:18:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqfX-0007Qt-4V - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:18:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqfU-0007Oq-K0 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:18:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtqfU-0007Om-D1 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:18:28 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GtqfU-0007Kv-8v - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:18:28 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBBJHfAB027052; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:17:53 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: GCL in batch mode Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:17:24 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: GCL in batch mode +Cc: Camm Maguire > a@nongnu.org] On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis > @@ -8560,83 +5611,42 @@ Cc: Camm Maguire, list, The above commmand also works for me on axiom-developer.org. No banner. Only the output you want. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqjx-0001MD-Px - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqjv-0001LE-OM - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqju-0001Jy-Lr - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtqju-0001Jo-8F - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:02 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtqju-00086N-1E - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5963BC6F90; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:01 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 02195-15-2; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:22:59 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30976C7086; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:22:59 -0600 (CST) -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (soliton.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.146.33]) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2069646DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:22:59 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 61EE01AA11; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:01 -0600 (CST) -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows - <1165862559.3410.7.camel@ellipse> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Dec 2006 13:10:45 -0600 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +Gregory Vanuxem writes: -| Le dimanche 10 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 10:16 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9cri= -t : -|=20 +| Le dimanche 10 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 10:16 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : +| | [...] -|=20 +| | > start address -T 10629000 Finished loading xrun.o | > Loading interop.o | > start address -T 1062f000 Finished loading interop.o | > Loading patches.o | > start address -T 10638000 Finished loading patches.o -| > Using local database ../../../axiom.bi/src/share/algebra/compress.da= -ase.. Re-reading compress.daase Using local database ../../../axiom.bi/= -src/share/algebra/interp.daase.. Re-reading interp.daase -| >=20 +| > Using local database ../../../axiom.bi/src/share/algebra/compress.daase.. Re-reading compress.daase Using local database ../../../axiom.bi/src/share/algebra/interp.daase.. Re-reading interp.daase +| > | > Error: Caught fatal error [memory may be damaged] | > Fast links are on: do (si::use-fast-links nil) for debugging | > Error signalled by RETURN. | > Broken at APPLY. Type :H for Help. -|=20 +| | The segfault occurs in cacheKeyedMsg (src/interp/patches.lisp). This is | a path problem, |fetchKeyedMsg| (patches.lisp) calls cacheKeyedMsg with | |$defaultMsgDatabaseName| as argument. This argument is a pathname (path | to target/*/share/msg/s2-us.msgs). GCL can not open this file since it's -| a unix path (/some/where) and segfault (I don't know where).=20 +| a unix path (/some/where) and segfault (I don't know where). Thanks for your insight into this puzzle. I would have expected a notification on failure, instead of proceeding ahead and craching. -Before rebuilding the database, the "old" DAASE is set to point to=20 +Before rebuilding the database, the "old" DAASE is set to point to the databases coming with the source code -axiom.bi/src/share/algebra/*.daase.=20 +axiom.bi/src/share/algebra/*.daase. This is even mysterous because other database files in the same directory (compress.daase) seem to have been opened successfully. @@ -8653,7 +5663,7 @@ come out as /some/path, not C:/some/path. | (I know that truename | accept Windows path with two backslash as separator (c:\\some\\where) so | may be other functions too). -|=20 +| | I don't know exactly where is the problem but you're rerooting (function | reroot) Axiom when you compile some interpreter's files. Reroot accepts | an argument which has to be the root of Axiom. @@ -8669,33 +5679,12 @@ care of? Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqks-0001pe-GX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:24:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqkn-0001mk-Hh - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqkl-0001kx-6n - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtqkk-0001kc-On - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:54 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtqkk-0008CD-Ef - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:54 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gtqj7-0004zm-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:22:13 +0100 -Subject: Re: GCL in batch mode -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:22:13 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: GCL in batch mode +Cc: Camm Maguire > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -8737,48 +5726,12 @@ which prints nothing. IIUC without '-batch' you print return _value_ of format function, but '-batch' supresess printing of return value, so you get nothing. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqkv-0001r6-4T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:24:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqks-0001pr-E8 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:24:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtqko-0001nE-Ae - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:24:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtqkn-0001n1-SA - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:57 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtqkn-0008Cr-PC - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:23:57 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312933CB8; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:57 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 13548-10-6; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:55 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C563CA6; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:55 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D38446DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:55 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:55 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: GCL in batch mode -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -8800,42 +5753,12 @@ On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: OK; something must not be OK with my setting. I'll give it one more try later. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqpG-0003Y2-Rr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:28:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqpF-0003Xv-GO - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:28:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtqpB-0003Xg-JF - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:28:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtqpB-0003Xd-Ad - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:28:29 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtqpB-0000Si-BX - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:28:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A597A10E7D - for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:28:41 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240F0E5C6; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:28:39 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9887E46DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:28:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:28:26 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: GCL in batch mode -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -8885,43 +5808,18 @@ Yes, I did not include all the variations I tried :-/ OK; thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtrLO-0003rb-AI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:01:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtrLM-0003qW-9z - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:01:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtrLK-0003pj-9z - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:01:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtrLK-0003pY-3E - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:01:42 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.31] (helo=smtp20.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtrLJ-0008Ku-Jn - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:01:41 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-96-221.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-96-221.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.93.221]) - by mwinf2023.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 57BBE1C00056; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:01:40 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <1165862559.3410.7.camel@ellipse> <873b7ms0y2.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:01:40 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 13:10 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : [...] > So, in essence, are you saying that we must convert the path to -> something usable by GCL?=20 +> something usable by GCL? Yes. @@ -8931,38 +5829,11 @@ Yes. Don't know. What I'm sure is that I don't want to use a MSYS shell to work with GCL (I hate this shell :-). -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtriR-0004NB-DJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:25:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtriO-0004Jc-Cr - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:25:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtriH-0004D6-MP - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:25:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtriG-0004Cg-K5; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:25:24 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1GtriF-0005Do-Ri; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:25:24 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBBKP0iS006179; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:25:17 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem, - "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:24:43 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On December 11, 2006 3:02 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: @@ -8973,36 +5844,11 @@ On December 11, 2006 3:02 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: What shell on Windows do you use to run ./configure? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtrnm-00089C-8o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:31:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtrnk-00086w-Ep - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:31:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtrnj-000864-Uq - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:31:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtrnj-000861-Rq - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:31:03 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtrnj-0006yD-AZ - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:31:03 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gtrlq-0001Ue-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:29:06 +0100 -Subject: Re: Nag libraries -To: Gernot Hueber Gernot Hueber Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:29:06 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gernot Hueber Gernot Hueber +Subject: Re: Nag libraries > I have spent some thoughts in how Axiom can interface external (shared) > libraries. I have tried this one for a few functions of the Gnu Scientific @@ -9040,47 +5886,21 @@ be usable for any chosen way of comunicating with Fortran routines. And yes -- we certainly want support comunication with other langages like C. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gts6t-00013m-OF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:50:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gts6s-00011S-0Y - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:50:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gts6q-00010L-1n - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:50:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gts6p-00010G-Tf - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:50:47 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gts6p-0002dJ-PK - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:50:48 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-107-33.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-107-33.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.184.33]) - by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 477F11C000C4; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:50:46 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page +\start Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:50:48 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - 'Gabriel Dos Reis' Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis -Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 15:24 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit :=20 +Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 15:24 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > On December 11, 2006 3:02 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: ->=20 +> > > ... > > What I'm sure is that I don't want to use a MSYS shell to > > work with GCL (I hate this shell :-). -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > What shell on Windows do you use to run ./configure? Bash 2.04.0(1) in a rxvt terminal (v2.7.2). When I say a shell I speak @@ -9088,44 +5908,15 @@ of the two. I have a lot of problems with it, for example if I resize the main window I can no longer type something. The key are incorrectly mapped (can not use the arrows, end, home etc..). -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsCV-0006KP-CE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:56:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsCU-0006K7-7C - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:56:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsCS-0006JG-EO - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:56:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtsCS-0006J9-56 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:56:36 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtsCS-0003ZJ-1u - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:56:36 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-107-33.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-107-33.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.184.33]) - by mwinf1917.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 92B7C1C00095; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:56:32 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <1165862559.3410.7.camel@ellipse> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:56:34 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 19:42 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows [...] -> I don't know exactly where is the problem but you're rerooting (functio= -n +> I don't know exactly where is the problem but you're rerooting (function > reroot) Axiom when you compile some interpreter's files. Reroot accepts > an argument which has to be the root of Axiom. You give him (to reroot) > a unix path and that's a problem (consequently $spadroot is wrong). @@ -9136,48 +5927,11 @@ n After further investigation, $spadroot is more likely set, when building depsys, via makedep.lisp. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsI7-0000F6-FN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsI5-0000E9-Nb - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsI3-0000D8-HX - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtsI3-0000Cv-8N - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:23 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtsI2-0004su-OA - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4B82786; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:02:21 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 20789-21-4; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:02:14 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA501C7B; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:02:14 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8053F46DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:02:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:02:14 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows - <1165862559.3410.7.camel@ellipse> - <873b7ms0y2.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <1165867301.3410.26.camel@ellipse> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Vanuxem Gregory wrote: @@ -9192,104 +5946,36 @@ Cygwin does not build GCL at the moment either. (And I have no time to become a Windows programmer -- MinGW/MSYS is all I can do). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsJq-0001k1-9l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:04:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsJp-0001jW-MK - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:04:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsJo-0001iF-Om - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:04:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtsJo-0001iA-JA - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:04:12 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtsJo-00057f-7R - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:04:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948CE20399 - for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:04:11 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF011EFF5; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:04:10 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7850146DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:04:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:04:10 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows - <1165862559.3410.7.camel@ellipse> <1165870594.3290.7.camel@ellipse> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -| Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 19:42 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit = -: +| Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 19:42 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : | | [...] | -| > I don't know exactly where is the problem but you're rerooting (funct= -ion -| > reroot) Axiom when you compile some interpreter's files. Reroot accep= -ts -| > an argument which has to be the root of Axiom. You give him (to reroo= -t) +| > I don't know exactly where is the problem but you're rerooting (function +| > reroot) Axiom when you compile some interpreter's files. Reroot accepts +| > an argument which has to be the root of Axiom. You give him (to reroot) | > a unix path and that's a problem (consequently $spadroot is wrong). | > $spadroot is used everywhere to create path relative to it so may be | > this is the problem ($spadroot is used to define | | > $defaultMsgDatabaseName|). | -| After further investigation, $spadroot is more likely set, when buildin= -g +| After further investigation, $spadroot is more likely set, when building | depsys, via makedep.lisp. Hmm, depsys builds fine and translates/compiles files with no problem. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsN8-0004dw-V8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:07:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsN6-0004df-VG - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:07:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtsN4-0004cQ-NF - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:07:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtsN4-0004cM-KK - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:07:34 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtsN4-0005hv-An - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:07:34 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C643D1EF18 - for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:07:33 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069FF1EED5; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:07:32 -0600 (CST) -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (soliton.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.146.33]) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEE146DE01; - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:07:32 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 19EE31AA11; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:07:35 -0600 (CST) +Date: 11 Dec 2006 15:07:35 -0600 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Nag libraries -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 11 Dec 2006 15:07:35 -0600 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -9302,62 +5988,30 @@ And C++, yes. One of my project here is to build a translation from Axiom/ASPAD to C++. But, that is not going to be finished for Xmas :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtwRo-0004we-0m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:28:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtwRm-0004vp-84 - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:28:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GtwRk-0004v8-LK - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:28:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GtwRk-0004uz-DY - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:28:40 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GtwRk-0002P1-BS - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:28:40 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-38-156.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-38-156.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.192.156]) - by mwinf1909.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DE0F81C0009A; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:28:38 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <1165862559.3410.7.camel@ellipse> <1165870594.3290.7.camel@ellipse> - Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:28:41 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 15:04 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Vanuxem Gregory wrote: ->=20 -> | Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 19:42 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9cri= -t : +> +> | Le lundi 11 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 19:42 +0100, Vanuxem Gregory a =E9crit : > | > | [...] > | -> | > I don't know exactly where is the problem but you're rerooting (fun= -ction -> | > reroot) Axiom when you compile some interpreter's files. Reroot acc= -epts -> | > an argument which has to be the root of Axiom. You give him (to rer= -oot) +> | > I don't know exactly where is the problem but you're rerooting (function +> | > reroot) Axiom when you compile some interpreter's files. Reroot accepts +> | > an argument which has to be the root of Axiom. You give him (to reroot) > | > a unix path and that's a problem (consequently $spadroot is wrong). -> | > $spadroot is used everywhere to create path relative to it so may b= -e +> | > $spadroot is used everywhere to create path relative to it so may be > | > this is the problem ($spadroot is used to define | > | > $defaultMsgDatabaseName|). > | -> | After further investigation, $spadroot is more likely set, when build= -ing +> | After further investigation, $spadroot is more likely set, when building > | depsys, via makedep.lisp. ->=20 +> > Hmm, depsys builds fine and translates/compiles files with no problem. Yes, I was wrong. What I said is applicable to depsys (via build-depsys) @@ -9374,38 +6028,11 @@ I wonder how it'll be possible to have a "correct" SPAD variable for Windows with the autotools or any other tools. For Cygwin there is cygpath to do that. - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtz1U-0002fa-8Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:13:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtz1S-0002e5-UM - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:13:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gtz1R-0002aZ-3S - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:13:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gtz1Q-0002aK-Uh - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:13:40 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtz1P-0002ps-Hs - for list; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:13:40 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBC4DAbX027604; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:13:26 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:12:51 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On December 11, 2006 11:40 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > @@ -9517,48 +6144,11 @@ where you need to ignore CR in windows line endings? I will look at this further tomorrow. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1KH-0003my-8i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:41:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1KF-0003ln-OI - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:41:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1KE-0003ku-Nh - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:41:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gu1KE-0003kc-Bq - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:41:14 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gu1KE-0003yQ-A5 - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:41:14 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E9123CC; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:41:13 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 25883-04; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:41:11 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D28912ED; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:41:11 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEB646DE01; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:41:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:41:11 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: list On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -9632,40 +6222,12 @@ text files so I just assumed they are marked binary and kept as such. I'm trying to build Axiom with AXIOM and SPAD set to relative paths and see what happens (testing Vanuxem's findings). -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1bd-000389-Rg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:59:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1bb-00037W-BX - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:59:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1ba-00036Q-HI - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:59:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gu1ba-00036I-Dd - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:59:10 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gu1ba-0006PG-DK - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:59:10 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-19.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.19]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBC6x5KW029395; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:59:06 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 1694D1AA11; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:59:08 -0600 (CST) -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 12 Dec 2006 00:59:07 -0600 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: member from new Boot - Hi, Among the Boot files in src/interp/ currently translated by bootsys, @@ -9766,41 +6328,12 @@ src/interp/ stringMatches?(pattern,subject) == - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1mV-0008LH-BE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:10:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1mT-0008KY-9O - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:10:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu1mS-0008K3-Lc - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:10:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gu1mS-0008K0-En - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:10:24 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gu1mS-0008ID-9F - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:10:24 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D020C21536 - for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:10:23 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E63201B0; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:10:22 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F6E46DE01; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:10:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:10:21 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: GCL in batch mode -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -9822,47 +6355,11 @@ On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: I rechecked, and it indeed it works for me too. I must have done or tried something very odd before. -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu4JW-0007eH-D4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:52:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu4JU-0007dC-5Z - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:52:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gu4JR-0007af-Cd - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:52:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gu4JQ-0007aS-VV - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:52:37 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gu4JQ-00033c-QR - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:52:37 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714F03D7A; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:52:35 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 32506-39-2; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:52:29 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC5B1B7B; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:52:29 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D51646DE01; - Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:52:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:52:29 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: list On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -9905,36 +6402,11 @@ Many thanks to both of you, and sorry for having wasted your time with a such a silly issue. The good news is that we may be able to build Axiom.build-improvements on windows soon :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuARN-000163-1q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:25:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuARL-00014D-4e - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:25:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuARJ-00012D-2Y - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:25:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GuARI-00011u-SS - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:25:08 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GuARI-00064Q-JI - for list; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:25:08 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBCGObIM006193; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:24:51 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:24:36 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On December 12, 2006 4:52 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -9961,61 +6433,27 @@ in a more portable lisp manner. When this is accomplished, I would like to suggest that it may well be time to consider a new "official" silver release of Axiom. If we could merge in Waldek's improvements to hyperdoc -and his recent bug fixes, that would make a very nice present -for all of us anxious Axiom users! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - +and his recent bug fixes, that would make a very nice present +for all of us anxious Axiom users! \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuQ08-0006ex-2k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:02:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuQ05-0006dQ-SE - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:02:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuQ03-0006bX-UG - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:02:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GuQ03-0006bH-PX - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:02:03 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuQ03-00024y-6s - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:02:03 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 2F3FD6B101; - Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:02:00 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 082DF6B117; - Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:01:59 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:02:12 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Axiom/GCL on windows -Thread-Index: Accd00VYMGoWZGr4TxGpB1SH9rJtLwAwOMJg From: Bill Page To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:52 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: ->=20 +> > I believe I solved the mystery: After the recent reorganization > I made, the variable SPAD did not have a have a value by the time > Make did substitution -- though it has a value set in the _shell_ > command line used to invoke depsys. Why that isn't an issue under > linux is not clear to me at this moment. ->=20 +> > After re-reading Greg's message, I decided to trace build-interpsys > and that is how I spotted that the last argument was empty -- which > is not supposed to be. ->=20 +> > Having two ways of saying the same thing (AXIOM and SPAD) is just > confusing and plain wrong. I changed src/interp/Makefile to use > only AXIOM (and not SPAD). interpsys was build successfully. @@ -10030,8 +6468,8 @@ first failure: ... 5 invoking make in /home/bpage/axiom.test/src/interp with parms: -SYS=3D i686-pc-mingw32 -LISP=3Dlsp BYE=3Dbye +SYS= i686-pc-mingw32 +LISP=lsp BYE=bye ../../../build-improvements/config/mkinstalldirs ./../..//target/i686-pc-mingw32/share /msgs @@ -10042,7 +6480,7 @@ mkdir -p -- ./../..//target/i686-pc-mingw32/share/msgs echo '(progn (gbc t) (load "makeint.lisp") (gbc t) (user::spad-save "../..//build/i686 -pc-mingw32/bin/interpsys.exe"))' | -DAASE=3D"../../../build-improvements/src/share" ./.. +DAASE="../../../build-improvements/src/share" ./.. /..//build/i686-pc-mingw32/bin/lisp GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Dec 13 2006 00:25:13 Source License: LGPL(gcl,gmp), GPL(unexec,bfd,xgcl) @@ -10078,47 +6516,11 @@ Error signalled by RETURN. Broken at APPLY. Type :H for Help. BOOT>> ... ----------- - -Any ideas? - -Regards, -Bill Page.=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuVj5-0007ZG-HO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:08:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuVj3-0007XH-Mf - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:08:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuVj1-0007TP-1j - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:08:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GuVj0-0007TA-OX - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:08:50 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuVj0-0000fD-DS - for list; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:08:50 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8160420BDB - for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:08:48 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E071D2D1; - Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:08:46 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E827E46DE01; - Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:08:46 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:08:46 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -10155,33 +6557,10 @@ I was testing my changes yesterday , and it was late so I went to bed. I'll ping you later. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuzLb-0006rP-Ny - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:46:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuzLZ-0006pA-7A - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:46:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuzLX-0006n6-GJ - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:46:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GuzLX-0006mx-Aa - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:46:35 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuzLX-0007vB-DF - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:46:35 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-106-38.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-106-38.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.119.38]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BD4E61C0016B - for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:46:32 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:46:48 +0100 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: Socket and build-improvements under Linux Hello, @@ -10196,74 +6575,25 @@ Fatal error opening I/O socket This was just for information and I hope it was not specific to me (if not please let me know). -Greg - -PS: - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuzPA-0002RX-61 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:50:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuzP8-0002Pf-Jk - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:50:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GuzP6-0002MW-BE - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:50:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GuzP5-0002M8-SW - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:50:15 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuzP5-0000QT-AZ - for list; 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Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:18:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gv3ai-00040z-TM - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:18:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gv3ah-0003yu-B3 - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:18:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gv3ah-0003ym-8G - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:18:31 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gv3ag-00077F-Ta - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:18:31 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-106-38.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-106-38.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.119.38]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C401F1C00091; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:18:29 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Socket and build-improvements under Linux -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <87zm9qypon.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:18:46 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Socket and build-improvements under Linux Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 18:21 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : -> Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: ->=20 +> Gregory Vanuxem writes: +> > | Hello, -> |=20 +> | > | I know that the build-improvements is a work in progress but the > | execution of #405 (installed) stopped with: -> |=20 +> | > | greg@ellipse:~$ axiom > | opening local server socket: Protocol not supported > | Fatal error opening I/O socket ->=20 +> > Please could you send me the corresponding config.log? No, forget what I'm saying. I'm working on some things and I forgot all @@ -10418,20 +6694,20 @@ later), was that I "reconfigured" Axiom after the completion of the build process (so there are some issues there...[1]). Sorry. I tried to copy your branch and do a freshly build without success: -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +========================== +========== ../config/mkinstalldirs ./..//target//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements/= share cd hyper && make -"AXIOM=3D/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr/local/axiom.buil= -d-improvements" "SPAD=3D/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr/l= -ocal/axiom.build-improvements" SYS=3D/usr/local/axiom.build-improvements = -"NOISE=3D-o .//build//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements/trace" +"AXIOM=/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr/local/axiom.buil= +d-improvements" "SPAD=/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr/l= +ocal/axiom.build-improvements" SYS=/usr/local/axiom.build-improvements = +"NOISE=-o .//build//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements/trace" make[2]: entrant dans le r=E9pertoire =AB /usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/src/hyper =BB -gcc -O2 -mtune=3Dk8 -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE +gcc -O2 -mtune=k8 -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE -I../../src/include -I../..//config -I. \ -c -o initx.o initx.c initx.c: In function 'ingItColors_and_fonts': @@ -10456,10 +6732,10 @@ make[1]: *** [all-hyper] Erreur 2 make[1]: quittant le r=E9pertoire =AB /usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/src =BB make: *** [all-src] Erreur 2 -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +========================== +=========== (the first time I built your branch this error was not present) @@ -10478,52 +6754,16 @@ Greg [1] I built Axiom without 'prefix' and reconfigured it (with another prefix) and installed it. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gv4fw-0002k7-5X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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- Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:27:52 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A6646DE01; - Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:27:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:27:52 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: Socket and build-improvements under Linux - <87zm9qypon.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <1166152726.3498.43.camel@ellipse> -Cc: Axiom-Developer On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -| Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 18:21 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit= - : -| > Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +| Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 18:21 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : +| > Gregory Vanuxem writes: | > | > | Hello, | > | @@ -10551,20 +6791,15 @@ Please don't. | I tried to | copy your branch and do a freshly build without success: | -| =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -| ../config/mkinstalldirs ./..//target//usr/local/axiom.build-improvement= -s/share +| ========================= +========================== +========================== +==========| ../config/mkinstalldirs ./..//target//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements/share | cd hyper && make -| "AXIOM=3D/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr/local/axiom.bu= -ild-improvements" "SPAD=3D/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr= -/local/axiom.build-improvements" SYS=3D/usr/local/axiom.build-improvement= -s "NOISE=3D-o .//build//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements/trace" +| "AXIOM=/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements" "SPAD=/usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/target//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements" SYS=/usr/local/axiom.build-improvements "NOISE=-o .//build//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements/trace" | make[2]: entrant dans le r=E9pertoire | =AB /usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/src/hyper =BB -| gcc -O2 -mtune=3Dk8 -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE +| gcc -O2 -mtune=k8 -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE | -I../../src/include -I../..//config -I. \ | -c -o initx.o initx.c | initx.c: In function 'ingItColors_and_fonts': @@ -10589,10 +6824,10 @@ s "NOISE=3D-o .//build//usr/local/axiom.build-improvements/trace" | make[1]: quittant le r=E9pertoire | =AB /usr/local/axiom-build-improvements/src =BB | make: *** [all-src] Erreur 2 -| =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +| ========================= +========================== +========================== +============ | (the first time I built your branch this error was not present) this is weird. @@ -10615,45 +6850,11 @@ remove most of the sub-shells present in Axiom gold or silver. On mnay platforms (especially, with previous solaris implementation of sh), sub-shells can be wonderfully expensive to create. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gv4vL-000895-SC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:43:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gv4vK-00087j-Bi - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:43:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gv4vJ-00087A-PQ - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:43:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gv4vJ-000875-NB - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:43:53 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gv4vJ-00044q-L0 - for list; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:43:53 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AFEC8907; - Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:43:52 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 21627-30-3; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:43:51 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DD7C88F9; - Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:43:51 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A460646DE01; - Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:43:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:43:51 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: list On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -10733,35 +6934,11 @@ Temporary directory for compiler files set to C:/DOCUME~1/gdr/LOCALS~1/Temp/ (2) 3x + x \axPrintType{\lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |Polynomial| ( |Integer| ) ))!}{\verb `Polynomial`} \lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |Integer| ))!}{\verb`Integer`}}(3) - > )quit - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvGhD-0002i6-9h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:18:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvGhA-0002dx-RM - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:18:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvGh7-0002ZP-MI - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:18:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvGh7-0002Z9-Ec - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:18:01 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.131] (helo=mail11c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GvGh7-0000o4-7E - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:18:01 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail11c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBFHHG03005428; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:17:38 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:17:08 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On December 14, 2006 11:44 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -10898,45 +7075,11 @@ is definitely not normal. Of course it should look exactly the same as on linux. This looks like the type information in some hyperdoc markup format. Very strange. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvHIw-0003lb-OM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:57:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvHIs-0003gA-Lo - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:57:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvHIp-0003bR-8R - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:57:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvHIo-0003ar-QP - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:56:58 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvHIo-0003R2-7G - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:56:58 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25EF129EB - for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:56:54 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE9112A6E; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:56:15 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D526F46DE01; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:56:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:56:14 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: list On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Bill Page wrote: @@ -11034,69 +7177,38 @@ That is what I thought but wasn't sure. Indeed. -Thanks for your feedback. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvIcU-00040K-EK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:21:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvIcS-0003xe-07 - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:21:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvIcP-0003vR-OT - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:21:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvIcP-0003vJ-Ki - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:21:17 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvIcP-0007uN-Fx - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:21:17 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-9-84.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-9-84.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.151.84]) - by mwinf1923.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 41DB11C0008A; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:21:16 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:21:35 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:43 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : [...] ->=20 +> > Furthermore, when I run AXIOMsys to test simple things, I noticed that -> I don't have the usual output under linux or other unix-variant systems= -. I +> I don't have the usual output under linux or other unix-variant systems. I > don't know whether this is "normal" under windows, or a collateral > damage I've done recently. Your insight would be most appreciated. ->=20 +> > Below is a sample session I run. [...] > (1) -> 2 + 3 ->=20 +> > (1) 5 -> \axPrintType{\lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |PositiveInteger| ))!}{\verb= -`Positive Integer`}}(2) -> +> \axPrintType{\lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |PositiveInteger| ))!}{\verb`Positive Integer`}}(2) -> > (2) -> x + 3 * x^3 > Loading ./target/i686-pc-mingw32//algebra/UPMP.o for package > UnivariatePolynomialMultiplicationPackage ->=20 +> > 3 > (2) 3x + x -> \axPrintType{\lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |Polynomial| ( |Integer| ) )= -)!}{\verb `Polynomial`} \lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |Integer| ))!}{\ve= -rb`Integer`}}(3) - > )quit ->=20 +> \axPrintType{\lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |Polynomial| ( |Integer| ) ))!}{\verb `Polynomial`} \lispLink{\verb!(|conPage| '( |Integer| ))!}{\verb`Integer`}}(3) - > )quit +> --- /usr/local/axiom-testing/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet +++ axiom-windows/AxiomOnWindows/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet @@ -11114,62 +7226,22 @@ rb`Integer`}}(3) - > )quit See src/interp/i-toplev.boot.pamphlet, the function printTypeAndTime. Or if you prefer type in an Axiom session: -)boot $saturn :=3D true +)boot $saturn := true 2+3 -)boot $saturn :=3D false +)boot $saturn := false 2+3 -Hope this help, - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvP1F-0000t9-Rf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:11:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvP1E-0000rG-Fx - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:11:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvP1C-0000pn-Oj - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:11:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvP1C-0000pR-Gg - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:11:18 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvP1C-00072d-CP - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:11:18 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74917C85E3; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:11:14 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 02055-08; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:11:13 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C380DC720B; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:11:09 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6304146DE01; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:11:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:11:09 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: Socket and build-improvements under Linux - <87zm9qypon.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> - <1166152726.3498.43.camel@ellipse> -Cc: Axiom-Developer On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -| Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 18:21 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit= - : -| > Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem writes: +| Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 18:21 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : +| > Gregory Vanuxem writes: | > | > | Hello, | > | @@ -11188,47 +7260,11 @@ There were real bugs there that I unfortunately introduced. I believe to have fixed all that are known to me, in revision 407. Many thanks for your feedback. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvP4F-00047A-PZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:14:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvP4D-00045y-OM - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:14:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvP4D-00044u-9e - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:14:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvP4C-00044h-Q7 - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:14:24 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvP4C-0007Nn-LR - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:14:24 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04363959; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:14:23 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 14591-31-4; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:14:22 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792131CB9; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:14:22 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4305D46DE01; - Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:14:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:14:22 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows - - <1166210495.3319.6.camel@ellipse> -Cc: list On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Vanuxem Gregory wrote: @@ -11255,37 +7291,11 @@ testing for platforms when, in fact, it is interested in *functionalities*. We should not be testing for platform in this specific case, we should be testing for functionality. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvPr3-0003PL-5J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvPr1-0003P8-An - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvPqz-0003Oq-Rx - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvPqz-0003Og-JL - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:49 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.131] (helo=mail11c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GvPqy-0007V6-Ov - for list; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:48 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail11c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBG34Rag032151; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:42 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis, - "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:04:18 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On December 15, 2006 9:14 PM Gabriel Dos Reis > On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Vanuxem Gregory wrote: @@ -11320,38 +7330,12 @@ What is "AxiomOnWindows branch"? +1 Yes! -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvYYV-0001W8-11 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:22:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvYYT-0001Uh-I6 - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:22:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvYYS-0001Sv-2X - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:22:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvYYR-0001Ss-W4 - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:22:16 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvYYR-0004xc-KP - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:22:15 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-3-81.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-3-81.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.145.81]) - by mwinf1918.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BE6781C000AE; - Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:22:13 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Vanuxem Gregory Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:22:35 +0100 -Cc: list, 'Gabriel Dos Reis' Gabriel Dos Reis +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Le vendredi 15 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:04 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : @@ -11364,25 +7348,25 @@ Le vendredi 15 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:04 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : > > | > > | ? (diff between build-improvements and AxiomOnWindows branch) > > | ->=20 +> > What is "AxiomOnWindows branch"? This is the axiom--windows--1 branch. I didn't remember its name :-) ->=20 -> > | See src/interp/i-toplev.boot.pamphlet, the function=20 +> +> > | See src/interp/i-toplev.boot.pamphlet, the function > > | printTypeAndTime. Or if you prefer type in an Axiom > > | session: -> >=20 +> > > > Yes, that does the trick for me. Thanks for the pointer. -> >=20 +> > > > Again, I must rant about this irritating puzzle-ridding habit > > of Axiom testing for platforms when, in fact, it is interested > > in *functionalities*. We should not be testing for platform > > in this specific case, we should be testing for functionality. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > +1 Yes! +1, @@ -11390,46 +7374,18 @@ This is the axiom--windows--1 branch. I didn't remember its name :-) I totally agree. I sent this patch just to show you that |$saturn| is set to nil in this branch. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvkzA-0004pf-DJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:38:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gvkz8-0004pU-Ac - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:38:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gvkz5-0004nL-QW - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:38:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gvkz5-0004mu-JG - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:38:35 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.131] (helo=mail11c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gvkz4-00082a-WF - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:38:35 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail11c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBH1cCnj029682; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:38:26 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Vanuxem Gregory'" Gregory Vanuxem, - "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:38:00 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem, +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On December 15, 2006 2:22 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: ->=20 -> Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:43 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a = -=E9crit : ->=20 +> +> Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:43 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : +> > [...] ->=20 +> > --- /usr/local/axiom-testing/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet > +++ axiom-windows/AxiomOnWindows/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet > @@ -66,8 +123,8 @@ @@ -11440,10 +7396,10 @@ On December 15, 2006 2:22 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: > -#-:UNIX (defvar |$saturn| 't) > +#+(or :UNIX :WINNT) (defvar |$saturn| 'nil) > +#-(or :UNIX :WINNT) (defvar |$saturn| 't) ->=20 -> ...=20 +> +> ... > Hope this help, ->=20 +> I can confirm that as of revision #407 (Friday, 15 Dec) the build-improvements branch together with Greg's patch above @@ -11453,49 +7409,20 @@ I am SO HAPPY to finally be able to say goodbye to the old axiom--windows--1! This the best Christmas/New Year's present ever! :-) -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvlS9-00079Y-O2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:08:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvlS8-000784-Nj - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:08:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvlS8-000773-5P - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:08:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GvlS8-00076v-25 - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:08:36 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvlS7-0006RZ-HI - for list; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:08:35 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-13.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.13]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBH28YKW014293; - Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:08:34 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id D271A1AA12; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:08:51 -0600 (CST) -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Dec 2006 20:08:51 -0600 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On December 15, 2006 2:22 PM Vanuxem Gregory wrote: -| >=20 -| > Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:43 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit= - : -| >=20 +| > +| > Le jeudi 14 d=E9cembre 2006 =E0 22:43 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : +| > | > [...] -| >=20 +| > | > --- /usr/local/axiom-testing/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet | > +++ axiom-windows/AxiomOnWindows/src/interp/patches.lisp.pamphlet | > @@ -66,8 +123,8 @@ @@ -11506,22 +7433,22 @@ Cc: list | > -#-:UNIX (defvar |$saturn| 't) | > +#+(or :UNIX :WINNT) (defvar |$saturn| 'nil) | > +#-(or :UNIX :WINNT) (defvar |$saturn| 't) -| >=20 -| > ...=20 +| > +| > ... | > Hope this help, -| >=20 -|=20 +| > +| | I can confirm that as of revision #407 (Friday, 15 Dec) the | build-improvements branch together with Greg's patch above | builds successfully on Windows. Congratulations! -Congratulations to all of you who helped!=20=20 +Congratulations to all of you who helped! I'm glad to see that we have the basics working (e.g. building AXIOMsys, algebra). I hope to check in some other modifications I have in my local trees before I mebrak on a trip to EU (where I don't expect to have much -time left for working on Axiom).=20 +time left for working on Axiom). Next is finaizing the other bits on the TODO list. @@ -11531,36 +7458,10 @@ Next is finaizing the other bits on the TODO list. I'm glad you like it :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvzaG-0002Qa-BU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:13:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GvzaC-0002L0-UH - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:13:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gvza9-0002EU-Er - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:13:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gvza8-0002Ci-Ux - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:13:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gvza8-00086z-NL - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:13:48 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D57A41089; - Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:13:46 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1Gvza6-0001Rx-0b; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:13:46 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 17 Dec 2006 18:13:45 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: How can I get the constant term in a polynomial Hello, @@ -11594,48 +7495,11 @@ not for sin ((a+b+1)*%pi) I don't see this function in SMP by )sh SMP nor in polycat.spad. -Have a nice day ! - -Francois - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw2XH-0008WB-0f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:23:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw2XF-0008T6-3F - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:23:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw2XD-0008Q5-EK - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:23:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gw2XD-0008Ph-9J - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:22:59 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw2XD-0005Fi-0R - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:22:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-233-73.zoominternet.net [72.23.233.73]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kBHKN4Ds002162; - Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:23:05 -0600 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (tower [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBI8KuFn018045; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:20:56 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kBI8Kulu018042; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:20:56 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:20:56 -0500 From: Tim Daly -To: "William Sit" William Sit - (mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org) -Cc: list, MathAction -Subject: Re: [#329 fuzzy error in factor.] Windows version - seems correct. +To: William Sit +Subject: Re: [#329 fuzzy error in factor.] Windows version seems correct. Bill, @@ -11653,40 +7517,10 @@ c:= a - expand b I get c = 0 -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw33I-0001th-TO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:56:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw33H-0001qU-3i - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:56:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw33G-0001ou-AX - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:56:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gw33G-0001oW-65 - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:56:06 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw33G-0004ZE-6M - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:56:06 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-233-73.zoominternet.net [72.23.233.73]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kBHKuDDs006068; - Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:56:13 -0600 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (tower [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBI8s57d018250; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:54:05 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kBI8s4wE018247; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:54:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:54:04 -0500 From: Tim Daly -To: "William Sit" William Sit +To: William Sit Cc: list Subject: factor bug @@ -11705,33 +7539,10 @@ g-11027*11777 => 0 g-11027*11777 => 0 g-11027*11777 => 0 So it looks like the error was introduced into FR when compiled under GCL. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw3W4-0007Of-MQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:25:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw3W3-0007Na-FG - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:25:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw3W0-0007K6-Q1 - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:25:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gw3W0-0007Jd-It - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:25:48 -0500 -Received: from [134.74.38.100] (helo=cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw3W0-0002kr-Bt - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:25:48 -0500 -Received: from [141.155.150.221] (account William Sit) - by cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.5) - with HTTP id 9549261; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:25:46 -0500 -From: "William Sit" William Sit -To: Tim Daly,"William Sit" William Sit Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:25:46 -0500 -Cc: list +From: William Sit +To: Tim Daly, William Sit Subject: Re: factor bug Tim: @@ -11775,42 +7586,12 @@ On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:54:04 -0500 >So it looks like the error was introduced into FR when >compiled >under GCL. -> ->Tim -William Sit, -Professor of Mathematics, City College of New York - -Office: R6/202C Tel: 212-650-5179, Fax: 212-862-0004 -Home Page: http://scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~wyscc/ - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw3ah-0004UG-3D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:30:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw3af-0004S7-Pp - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:30:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw3ae-0004PG-9g - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:30:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gw3ae-0004PD-6j - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:30:36 -0500 -Received: from [134.74.38.100] (helo=cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw3ae-00047H-8R - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:30:36 -0500 -Received: from [141.155.150.221] (account William Sit) - by cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.5) - with HTTP id 9549274; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:30:34 -0500 -From: "William Sit" William Sit -Subject: re: [#329 fuzzy error in factor.] - Windows version seems correct. -To: Tim Daly,"William Sit" William Sit +\start Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:30:34 -0500 -Cc: list, MathAction +From: William Sit +To: Tim Daly,William Sit +Subject: re: [#329 fuzzy error in factor.] Windows version seems correct. On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:20:56 -0500 Tim Daly wrote: @@ -11845,37 +7626,11 @@ error. Too bad Wiki right now is not displaying the entire result, but your Axiom should display it. -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw47o-0008Be-OF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:04:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw47n-0008Ab-AE - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:04:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw47k-0008A8-QX - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:04:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gw47k-00089x-H6 - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:04:48 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw47j-0002f6-Qw - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:04:48 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7234040F5A - for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:04:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1Gw47h-000253-CI - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:04:45 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 17 Dec 2006 23:04:44 +0100 -Subject: Re: [#329 fuzzy error in factor.] (new) Re: [#329 - fuzzy error in factor.] Windows version seems correct. +From: Francois Maltey +To: list +Subject: Re: Re: [#329 fuzzy error in factor.] Windows version seems correct. I use my own compiled axiom without change for integer and so. I have a random reponse : @@ -11895,31 +7650,10 @@ The exact solution is 2000 of corse. F. [I don't know how to add this in the wiki] - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw4Nb-0006Yl-UC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:21:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw4NZ-0006U8-HW - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:21:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gw4NX-0006RD-UD - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:21:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gw4NX-0006R1-Pn - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:21:07 -0500 -Received: from [134.74.38.100] (helo=cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw4NX-0007XX-M3 - for list; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:21:07 -0500 -Received: from [141.155.150.221] (account William Sit) - by cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.5) - with HTTP id 9549526; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:21:06 -0500 -From: "William Sit" William Sit -To: Tim Daly Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:21:06 -0500 -Cc: list +From: William Sit +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: factor bug On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:00:12 -0500 @@ -11961,41 +7695,11 @@ So you confirmed that even the NAG version exhibited problems? Just hope no one uses these two "primes" for RSA. -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwE0w-000359-FD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:38:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwE0v-00033V-1e - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:38:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwE0s-00031b-VN - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:38:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwE0s-00031T-Rn - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:38:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GwE0s-0003cG-O5 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:38:22 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GwE0k-0005UD-Ke; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:38:14 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GwE0k-0003UN-Jh; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:38:14 +0100 +\start +Date: 18 Dec 2006 09:38:12 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: How can I get the constant term in a polynomial -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 18 Dec 2006 09:38:12 +0100 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -12028,41 +7732,10 @@ I guess you want to use coefficient(p,0$IndexedExponents(Symbol)) -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwEBM-0002zr-BQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:49:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwEBL-0002zC-10 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:49:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwEBJ-0002yY-PH - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:49:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwEBJ-0002yV-K4 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:49:09 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GwEBJ-0005OH-B1 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:49:09 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GwEBB-0006lJ-FP; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:49:01 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GwEBB-0003sq-EF; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:49:01 +0100 -To: axiom-dev , aldor-l -From: Martin Rubey Date: 18 Dec 2006 09:49:01 +0100 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: list Subject: a problem, maybe with strict typing Dear all, especially all fans of strict typing! @@ -12131,36 +7804,11 @@ sin(?). But how can I explain that to axiom? Any ideas are greatly appreciated. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwHTU-0007rP-TZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:20:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwHTP-0007lW-3j - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:20:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwHTM-0007j0-9m - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:20:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwHTL-0007iY-VW - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:20:00 -0500 -Received: from [134.74.38.100] (helo=cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwHTL-0003KK-MQ - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:19:59 -0500 -Received: from [141.155.150.221] (account William Sit) - by cgate.sci.ccny.cuny.edu (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.5) - with HTTP id 9554323; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:20:00 -0500 -From: "William Sit" William Sit -Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing -To: Martin Rubey,axiom-dev - , aldor-l Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:20:00 -0500 -Cc: +From: William Sit +To: Martin Rubey,axiom-dev +Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing Martin: @@ -12227,45 +7875,15 @@ need to write type conversion routines between EXPR INT and UPXS or UPS (one direction is given by series or taylor already). -William - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwIfw-0000fx-Qf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:37:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwIfu-0000eB-8A - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:37:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwIft-0000dB-4n - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:37:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwIfs-0000d5-Kq - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:37:00 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GwIN1-0002tx-6Y - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:17:31 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GwIMz-0003G4-25; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:17:29 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GwIMy-0005YY-Ui; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:17:28 +0100 -To: "William Sit" William Sit -Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing -From: Martin Rubey Date: 18 Dec 2006 14:17:27 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +From: Martin Rubey +To: William Sit +Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing Dear William, -"William Sit" William Sit writes: +William Sit writes: > Martin: > @@ -12350,48 +7968,11 @@ suppose. > So here, you need to write type conversion routines between EXPR INT and UPXS > or UPS (one direction is given by series or taylor already). - - -Thanks, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwLRd-0004Ix-80 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:34:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwLRc-0004HG-4Q - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:34:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwLRa-0004FA-EE - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:34:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwLRa-0004EZ-27 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:34:26 -0500 -Received: from [209.135.140.38] (helo=axiom-developer.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GwLRa-0001Dz-0D - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:34:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-233-73.zoominternet.net [72.23.233.73]) - by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kBIGYTDs014708; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:34:29 -0600 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (tower [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBJ4WU5Z023992; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:32:31 -0500 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kBJ4WU1P023989; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:32:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:32:30 -0500 From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: -Subject: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc fails] - gazonk again +Subject: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc fails] gazonk again > The "gazonk" files are created when the interpreter tries to > compile the argument to draw as a Lisp function. The error @@ -12407,171 +7988,116 @@ Subject: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc fails] > Try to correct this problem by signing on as 'root' and > removing all temporary files:: > -> rm /tmp/* - -The gazonk-name function, previously discussed, should handle -this problem. I'm not sure why it wasn't applied. - -Tim - +> rm /tmp/* +The gazonk-name function, previously discussed, should handle +this problem. I'm not sure why it wasn't applied. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwMET-0000o0-Mj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwMES-0000nv-TZ - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwMER-0000mM-1J - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwMEQ-0000mJ-Uj - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:54 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwMEQ-000844-4S - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:54 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D02C866210; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:52 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id B790B6620F; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:51 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc - fails]gazonk again Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:24:49 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc - fails]gazonk again -Thread-Index: AcciwmjeeG7S0GE9Rz2ohylyUKX51AABrpyw From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc fails] gazonk again On Monday, December 18, 2006 11:33 PM Tim Daly wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > The gazonk-name function, previously discussed, should handle > this problem. I'm not sure why it wasn't applied. ->=20 +> Tim, is this a problem with Axiom or with GCL? If it is GCL has anyone submitted a patch? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwNLE-0000wX-U6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:36:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwNLE-0000vt-7O - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:36:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwNLC-0000uQ-7L - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:35:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwNLC-0000uE-2i - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:35:58 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.252.46] (helo=vms046pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwNLB-0002F0-Hb - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:35:57 -0500 -Received: from sci.ccny.cuny.edu ([141.155.150.221]) - by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 - (built Apr - 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JAH00J14FND72E0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:35:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:35:38 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing To: Martin Rubey -Message-id: <4586DF7A.AC9CAF63@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <9qejqxmjh4.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing Martin Rubey wrote: -> > If I understand your question correctly, at least in the interpreter, there is -> > no need to go to SUP F, especially for domains like F = EXPR INT. In the -> > example you give, -> -> So, you would check whether F allows a "transcendental" element (i.e., another -> variable)? That doesn't look very "clean" to me. (I'm writing a package, by the -> way...) +> > If I understand your question correctly, at least in the +> > interpreter, there is no need to go to SUP F, especially for +> > domains like F = EXPR INT. In the example you give, -This was only used to see if I understood your question. I was aware you are writing -a package. With the exception perhaps of Inteval, domains that descends from TRANFUN -are either constants or series, or EXPR. Only EXPR allows you to have a new symbol -without "adding" it to F as in SUP F. But the problem is not adding a new variable, -which is the easy part. So it is not even necessary to check if F allows a new -symbol. It is the series expansion that is causing the problems that forces you to -use EXPR. +> So, you would check whether F allows a "transcendental" element +> (i.e., another variable)? That doesn't look very "clean" to me. (I'm +> writing a package, by the way...) + +This was only used to see if I understood your question. I was aware +you are writing a package. With the exception perhaps of Inteval, +domains that descends from TRANFUN are either constants or series, or +EXPR. Only EXPR allows you to have a new symbol without "adding" it to +F as in SUP F. But the problem is not adding a new variable, which is +the easy part. So it is not even necessary to check if F allows a new +symbol. It is the series expansion that is causing the problems that +forces you to use EXPR. + +> > Now if you want to write a package, you do not want to fix the +> > variable x (which a user of your package may use t, for +> > example). However, assuming you are only using input functions +> > (like z and initial data) that are univariate in EXPR INT, -> > Now if you want to write a package, you do not want to fix the variable x -> > (which a user of your package may use t, for example). However, assuming you -> > are only using input functions (like z and initial data) that are univariate in -> > EXPR INT, -> > I definitely don't want to restrict to EXPR INT. It should work with any > domain that has TRANFUN. -No you don't have to, at least not for the user, but I think you must, to do your -computation. As you observed, if you add a new variable as the undetermined -coefficient using SUP F, the domain no longer has TRANFUN even if F has. Moreover, -the series expansion operation requires AlgebraicallyClosedField and FunctionSpace in -addition to TRANFUN. This means you cannot expand the transcendental functions in SUP -F into a series (example, expand series(sin(1+t*x)) ) without going to EXPR anyway. -But EXPR SUP F can then be replaced by EXPR F. Of course, if F is EXPR INT, you -should not add another layer, but this is "easy" to test by checking whether F has -FunctionSpace(some ring) (and really easy, whether F has AlgebraicallyClosedField)). -I am putting the first "easy" in quote because we went there before: Axiom does not -provide info of how F is constructed unless in you package, you ask for it in the -parameters. If you want to avoid such trouble, write your package for EXPR over some -numeric domain. - -> > you can extract the main variable, and assign it to x (in your package). Let -> > axiom generate a new symbol and assign it to t, which will be different from -> > x (even if the user also uses t for his main variable, it will be a different -> > t). Now you form your partial series for g involving t and x, -> +No you don't have to, at least not for the user, but I think you must, +to do your computation. As you observed, if you add a new variable as +the undetermined coefficient using SUP F, the domain no longer has +TRANFUN even if F has. Moreover, the series expansion operation +requires AlgebraicallyClosedField and FunctionSpace in addition to +TRANFUN. This means you cannot expand the transcendental functions in +SUP F into a series (example, expand series(sin(1+t*x)) ) without +going to EXPR anyway. But EXPR SUP F can then be replaced by EXPR +F. Of course, if F is EXPR INT, you should not add another layer, but +this is "easy" to test by checking whether F has FunctionSpace(some +ring) (and really easy, whether F has AlgebraicallyClosedField)). I +am putting the first "easy" in quote because we went there before: +Axiom does not provide info of how F is constructed unless in you +package, you ask for it in the parameters. If you want to avoid such +trouble, write your package for EXPR over some numeric domain. + +> > you can extract the main variable, and assign it to x (in your +> > package). Let axiom generate a new symbol and assign it to t, +> > which will be different from x (even if the user also uses t for +> > his main variable, it will be a different t). Now you form your +> > partial series for g involving t and x, + > So, what will be the coefficient ring of this partial series? I currently use > SUP F. I thought about using EXPR F instead, but this looks rather like a > workaround than a solution. -Ideally, assuming F is a domain from TRANFUN, the coefficient ring for the partial -series is F if F is already EXPR(S) and EXPR F if not (this second case include the -cases when F is itself is a numeric domain, or a series ring, wrt some other -independent variable). If what I said so far is correct, you have no choice. +Ideally, assuming F is a domain from TRANFUN, the coefficient ring for +the partial series is F if F is already EXPR(S) and EXPR F if not +(this second case include the cases when F is itself is a numeric +domain, or a series ring, wrt some other independent variable). If +what I said so far is correct, you have no choice. -> (That's why I asked for a more abstract problem -> description, by the way) I think so, because, suppose there is another category +> (That's why I asked for a more abstract problem description, by the +> way) I think so, because, suppose there is another category > InterestingFunctions. It may well be that EXPR does not export -> InterestingFunctions, and then wrapping the coefficient domain with EXPR won't -> help. It seems that the present problem is quite close to the problem of -> "indeterminates". - -No, it is much simpler (conceptually speaking). In your hypothetical scenario, you -must construct in InterestingFunctions the series expansion operation. At this time, -all roads lead to EXPR! (The only SPFCAT domain constructor is EXPR, which is also -the only FS domain constructor). So it is very likely that if there are new -interesting functions, you will certainly "extend" EXPR to belong to that category as -well. - -> > and substitute g for x to form z g. Then compute the resulting series ending -> > up in R:=UPXS(EXPR F,x,a) or UPS(EXPR F,x,a), where F can be simply INT. -> -> This rather sounds like replacing my SUP with EXPR. - -Well, yes, for the reasons above. I don't think you can avoid this, at least not in -your computations. Users don't have to enter the z function that implicitly defines -the g function using EXPR domains---any TRANFUN domain is fine if no special -functions are involved. +> InterestingFunctions, and then wrapping the coefficient domain with +> EXPR won't help. It seems that the present problem is quite close to +> the problem of "indeterminates". + +No, it is much simpler (conceptually speaking). In your hypothetical +scenario, you must construct in InterestingFunctions the series +expansion operation. At this time, all roads lead to EXPR! (The only +SPFCAT domain constructor is EXPR, which is also the only FS domain +constructor). So it is very likely that if there are new interesting +functions, you will certainly "extend" EXPR to belong to that category +as well. + +> > and substitute g for x to form z g. Then compute the resulting +> > series ending up in R:=UPXS(EXPR F,x,a) or UPS(EXPR F,x,a), where +> > F can be simply INT. > > This rather sounds like replacing my SUP +> > with EXPR. + +Well, yes, for the reasons above. I don't think you can avoid this, at +least not in your computations. Users don't have to enter the z +function that implicitly defines the g function using EXPR +domains---any TRANFUN domain is fine if no special functions are +involved. > > (If you require your user to give input functions directly from > > GR:=UPXS(F,x,a) or UPS(F,x,a), you will need to first "embed" GR to @@ -12579,102 +8105,63 @@ functions are involved. > > variable of SUP F; then you have to repack everything (just the normal part > > of the series up to the order you need) back into EXPR F before forming the > > series in R). -> -> That sounds interesting, but I don't think I understand. Do you mean I can -> "lift" a function from GR -> GR to a function SGR -> SGR? I don't see how this -> could be done... - -F is a subring of SUP F, so if you have a series with coefficients in F, these are in -SUP F (basically, "constants" with respect to the "?" variable). Is it trivial to -lift a series in GR to SGR? (you can just use "map"). It is only a coercion from a -subdomain to a domain. It is NOT lifting a function from GR -> GR to another function -from SGR -> SGR (such lifting would be possible, but not unique unless the image for -"?" is decided first, in which case, "map" will do the job too). - -> > In any case, you can now compute your undetermined coefficients one at a time -> > using arithmetic in EXPR F. The series for g may be retracted to GR. The user -> > of your package would not need to know anything about your auxilliary -> > variable t. -> -> > Something similar to this can be found in IDEAL (PolynomialIdeals) package -> > where we need an auxilliary variable (like your t) to turn inequations h \ne -> > 0 into an equation of the form h*t-1 = 0 (here t must not be mixed up with -> > user variables). A lot of type conversion is needed between different -> > polynomial rings. - -> Hm, you mean the code in relationsIdeal(listf : List DPoly): ST ? I must admit -> that I find it quite difficult to read. THere couldn't be less documentation, I -> suppose. - -I mean the definition of the macros newPoly and the functions npoly, oldpoly and -inRadical? in ideal.spad, where a polynomial ring domain used for the input -polynomials is extended by a new variable. You will notice a lot of similar code in -other routines (look for the variable tp or tp1). The construction works even when -the polynomial domain is POLY INT (supposedly includes all symbols). This is the -beauty of Axiom because we only need to extend the exponent vectors by one more -dimension (even if the original vectors are conceptually infinite dimensional). So I -am proposing you do the same thing because EXPR plays the same role as POLY, but in -function space. - -> > So here, you need to write type conversion routines between EXPR INT and UPXS -> > or UPS (one direction is given by series or taylor already). -> -> Thanks, -> -> Martin - -Hope this makes more sense. - -William - - +> That sounds interesting, but I don't think I understand. Do you mean +> I can "lift" a function from GR -> GR to a function SGR -> SGR? I +> don't see how this could be done... + +F is a subring of SUP F, so if you have a series with coefficients in +F, these are in SUP F (basically, "constants" with respect to the "?" +variable). Is it trivial to lift a series in GR to SGR? (you can just +use "map"). It is only a coercion from a subdomain to a domain. It is +NOT lifting a function from GR -> GR to another function from SGR -> +SGR (such lifting would be possible, but not unique unless the image +for "?" is decided first, in which case, "map" will do the job too). + +> > In any case, you can now compute your undetermined coefficients +> > one at a time using arithmetic in EXPR F. The series for g may be +> > retracted to GR. The user of your package would not need to know +> > anything about your auxilliary variable t. > Something similar to +> > this can be found in IDEAL (PolynomialIdeals) package where we +> > need an auxilliary variable (like your t) to turn inequations h +> > \ne 0 into an equation of the form h*t-1 = 0 (here t must not be +> > mixed up with user variables). A lot of type conversion is needed +> > between different polynomial rings. + +> Hm, you mean the code in relationsIdeal(listf : List DPoly): ST ? I +> must admit that I find it quite difficult to read. THere couldn't be +> less documentation, I suppose. + +I mean the definition of the macros newPoly and the functions npoly, +oldpoly and inRadical? in ideal.spad, where a polynomial ring domain +used for the input polynomials is extended by a new variable. You will +notice a lot of similar code in other routines (look for the variable +tp or tp1). The construction works even when the polynomial domain is +POLY INT (supposedly includes all symbols). This is the beauty of +Axiom because we only need to extend the exponent vectors by one more +dimension (even if the original vectors are conceptually infinite +dimensional). So I am proposing you do the same thing because EXPR +plays the same role as POLY, but in function space. + +> > So here, you need to write type conversion routines between EXPR +> > INT and UPXS or UPS (one direction is given by series or taylor +> > already). \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwNq7-0003yE-Vv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwNq4-0003ut-Fa - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwNpz-0003pv-35 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwNpx-0003p9-Rp - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:46 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwNpw-00022T-GI - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:45 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AC479673DE; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:43 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9EF516745E; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:39 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc - fails]gazonk again Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:07:38 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc - fails]gazonk again -Thread-Index: Acci0t/lO6ccaEPQSc64aOqaKVSClwAALPKA From: Bill Page -To: "root" Tim Daly -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +To: Tim Daly +Subject: RE: Re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc fails]gazonk again +Cc: Camm Maguire On Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:30 AM Tim Daly wrote: ->=20 +> > > > The gazonk-name function, previously discussed, should handle > > > this problem. I'm not sure why it wasn't applied. -> > >=20 -> >=20 + > > Tim, is this a problem with Axiom or with GCL? If it is GCL > > has anyone submitted a patch? ->=20 + > ummm, that would be a source of debate i'd guess. > arguably there is a failure in axiom causing the file to remain. @@ -12685,7 +8172,7 @@ Isn't the goal just to compile and load a Lisp function? > Yes, probably. -=20 + > of course, if there are multiple users of the system you can have > name collisions because they are both writing to the same temp > file name and do not have permission to erase each others files. @@ -12698,9 +8185,9 @@ to create unique temporary file names in a multi-user environment. > perhaps these files are left around from a previously failing > axiom build. however axiom plays with the default system path -> names of gcl so that, by design, it never writes outside of=20 +> names of gcl so that, by design, it never writes outside of > the build directory so this should not happen. ->=20 +> In my experience the gazonk files are always created in /tmp in all version of Axiom I have used so far - for both explicit @@ -12719,47 +8206,11 @@ draw function, an error like this: occurs. Does this error message originate with GCL or with something else that Axiom is trying to do with/too this file? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwO3O-0000Us-EU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:21:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwO3I-0000Qh-WB - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:21:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwO3E-0000Mq-T3 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:21:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwO3D-0000LS-Ek - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:21:27 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwNjl-00085U-U8 - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:01:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E04EC833D; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:01:20 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 27714-23; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:01:19 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEB9C745F; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:01:16 -0600 (CST) -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (soliton.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.146.33]) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635CA46DE01; - Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:01:16 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id C206F1AA12; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:01:40 -0600 (CST) -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc - fails]gazonk again -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 18 Dec 2006 13:01:40 -0600 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc fails]gazonk again Bill Page writes: @@ -12778,60 +8229,24 @@ version is taking over. Someone has to test (1) Remove Axiom's version and test again (2) If the problem persists, fix it in GCL upstream. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwazG-0001UM-Rk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:10:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwazD-0001Sl-KQ - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:10:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwazC-0001Rn-Od - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:10:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwazC-0001Rc-Kv - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:10:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GwazC-0003qF-4z - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:10:10 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gwaz3-0004Kg-BQ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:10:01 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gwaz3-0002DR-7W; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:10:01 +0100 +Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:10:00 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: William Sit Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing - <9qejqxmjh4.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <4586DF7A.AC9CAF63@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:10:00 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l Dear William, dear Aldor experts, The bit for the Aldor exports is enclosed in --ALDOR QUESTION---------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - The rest can be safely skipped, I guess. - - William, thanks for your input. Most of it makes sense, however, the paragraph which I find most interesting I still don't understand. Thus a follow up. -First things first. I had yet another idea, which avoids the problems of EXPR a -little. To put things into the right setting, I quote our discussion: +First things first. I had yet another idea, which avoids the problems +of EXPR a little. To put things into the right setting, I quote our +discussion: > > I definitely don't want to restrict to EXPR INT. It should work with any > > domain that has TRANFUN. @@ -12951,40 +8366,12 @@ Could you please try to re-phrase what you mean with in particular, to make things precise, could you give the signature you propose for solve(...)? -Many thanks, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwglC-0005yf-Kl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:20:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwWqy-00014q-Bq - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:45:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwWqx-00013w-GG - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:45:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwWqx-00013i-6S - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:45:23 -0500 -Received: from [72.21.53.35] (helo=talk.nabble.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GwWqx-0004Of-6A - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:45:23 -0500 -Received: from [72.21.53.38] (helo=jubjub.nabble.com) - by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GwWqv-0004yQ-Fc - for list; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:45:21 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:45:21 -0800 (PST) -From: billitch +From: billitch To: list Subject: Re: SourceForge SVN - - Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > We have problem with SF SVN: first Gaby then I can not make "svn copy". @@ -13003,7 +8390,7 @@ Waldek Hebisch wrote: Hi ! I had the same problem and this post fixed my problems : -http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1599910&group_id=1&atid=200001 +http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1599910&group_id=1&atid0001 I now acces via the new URL scheme and everything works... Kinda strange solution but at least it works. @@ -13011,36 +8398,11 @@ solution but at least it works. -- billitch --- -View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SourceForge-SVN-tf2745488.html#a7941638 -Sent from the axiom-developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwqrQ-0003KZ-Jm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:07:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwqrO-0003K3-PG - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:07:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwqrN-0003Jq-P2 - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:07:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwqrM-0003Jk-W9 - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:07:09 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwqrK-0005Ls-Qo - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:07:07 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gwqr7-00051v-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 03:06:53 +0100 -Subject: re: factor bug -To: William Sit +\start Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 03:06:53 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: William Sit +Subject: re: factor bug William Sit wrote: > Tim: @@ -13167,86 +8529,57 @@ Anyway, the following patch fixed for me factorisation problems: insert_!(d, a, m * c) if n > 1 then insert_!(n, a, c) - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwsRs-0003PW-C2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:48:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwsRq-0003PR-UA - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:48:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwsRq-0003PF-4W - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:48:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwsRp-0003PC-AM - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:48:54 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.252.40] (helo=vms040pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwsRo-0003pf-Df - for list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:48:52 -0500 -Received: from sci.ccny.cuny.edu ([141.155.150.221]) - by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 - (built Apr - 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JAJ006H1ZWTA7M4@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:48:37 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:48:31 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing To: Martin Rubey -Message-id: <4588B28F.C49EC015@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <9qejqxmjh4.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <4586DF7A.AC9CAF63@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qslfc9rpz.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing Martin Rubey wrote: -> First things first. I had yet another idea, which avoids the problems of EXPR a -> little. To put things into the right setting, I quote our discussion: -> -> > > I definitely don't want to restrict to EXPR INT. It should work with any -> > > domain that has TRANFUN. -> > -> > No you don't have to, at least not for the user, but I think you must, to do -> > your computation. -> -> However, suppose that there is a domain Holonomic which enables us to compute -> with functions that satisfy an linear differential equation, i.e., there is a -> linear polynomial p such that p(x, y, y',...,y^(n))=0. Holonomic cannot inherit -> from TRANFUN, since tan is not Holonomic, but it still captures a large class -> of trigonometric functions. Furthermore, it is a computable domain, i.e., we -> can automatically check whether an expression is zero. So, it is definitely an -> interesting domain. -> +> First things first. I had yet another idea, which avoids the +> problems of EXPR a little. To put things into the right setting, I +> quote our discussion: + +> > > I definitely don't want to restrict to EXPR INT. It should work +> > > with any domain that has TRANFUN. + +> > No you don't have to, at least not for the user, but I think you +> > must, to do your computation. + +> However, suppose that there is a domain Holonomic which enables us +> to compute with functions that satisfy an linear differential +> equation, i.e., there is a linear polynomial p such that p(x, y, +> y',...,y^(n))=0. Holonomic cannot inherit from TRANFUN, since tan is +> not Holonomic, but it still captures a large class of trigonometric +> functions. Furthermore, it is a computable domain, i.e., we can +> automatically check whether an expression is zero. So, it is +> definitely an interesting domain. + > Currently I have the signature > > solve(UTS SUP F -> UTS SUP F, List F) -> -> where the first argument gives the series expansion of the equation defining my -> series, the second is a list of initial values. For example, I could say -> -> solve(s +-> -s * D(s,2) + D(s)^2 + s*D s, [1,1]) -> -> to obtain the exponential generating function for the Bell numbers. There is no -> computation in an "Expression" domain involved here... (Note, furthermore, that -> the necessity of SUP is not really clear for the user here, more on this below) - -Speaking for myself, I won't use the expanded series as input from a user. I may -use your function or something similar as a behind-the-scene local function. As -will be seen in previous discussion and below, series expansions require more than -just TRANFUN. -Note your example argument in solve is not a linear polynomial in the derivatives -of s. Ignoring that and assuming you are really interested in non-linear ODEs, I -don't see the relevance of transcendental functions unless you allow them in the -coefficients of the ODE. But then you will have trouble evaluating the map in the -argument of solve (see below). +> where the first argument gives the series expansion of the equation +> defining my series, the second is a list of initial values. For +> example, I could say solve(s +-> -s * D(s,2) + D(s)^2 + s*D s, +> [1,1]) to obtain the exponential generating function for the Bell +> numbers. There is no computation in an "Expression" domain involved +> here... (Note, furthermore, that the necessity of SUP is not really +> clear for the user here, more on this below) + +Speaking for myself, I won't use the expanded series as input from a +user. I may use your function or something similar as a +behind-the-scene local function. As will be seen in previous +discussion and below, series expansions require more than just +TRANFUN. + +Note your example argument in solve is not a linear polynomial in the +derivatives of s. Ignoring that and assuming you are really interested +in non-linear ODEs, I don't see the relevance of transcendental +functions unless you allow them in the coefficients of the ODE. But +then you will have trouble evaluating the map in the argument of solve +(see below). > Thus, the signature > @@ -13259,11 +8592,11 @@ argument of solve (see below). > but that poses some new problems, since EXPR EXPR INT is "forbidden" in the > interpreter. -Before we get into the signature of solve, we have to make sure what is to be -computed can be effectively done within the domain. At first I thought -any domain having TRANFUN might be enough for your purpose because afterall, such a -domain is supposedly closed under all elementary function operators. Then I tried -with UTS(FRAC INT, x, 0): +Before we get into the signature of solve, we have to make sure what +is to be computed can be effectively done within the domain. At first +I thought any domain having TRANFUN might be enough for your purpose +because afterall, such a domain is supposedly closed under all +elementary function operators. Then I tried with UTS(FRAC INT, x, 0): (1) -> dom:=UTS(FRAC INT,x,0) @@ -13293,14 +8626,15 @@ protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL) Type: UnivariatePuiseuxSeries(Expression Integer,x,0) -The above shows that even though domains in TRANFUN may have sin SPECIFIED, it does -not mean the implementation is possible because the underlying coefficient ring (in -my example, FRAC INT) may not have enough constants such as sin(1) to support the -construction. You cannot get around this even if you use UTS(SUP F, x, a) or -UTS(F,x,a) since F, not necessarily, but even if, a domain in TRANFUN, must still -have transcendental constants since UTS or SUP is not going to add these to F. (You -may however use Float instead of FRAC INT as F, but that gets us into -approximations.) +The above shows that even though domains in TRANFUN may have sin +SPECIFIED, it does not mean the implementation is possible because the +underlying coefficient ring (in my example, FRAC INT) may not have +enough constants such as sin(1) to support the construction. You +cannot get around this even if you use UTS(SUP F, x, a) or UTS(F,x,a) +since F, not necessarily, but even if, a domain in TRANFUN, must still +have transcendental constants since UTS or SUP is not going to add +these to F. (You may however use Float instead of FRAC INT as F, but +that gets us into approximations.) > -ALDOR QUESTION---------------------------------------------------------------- > @@ -13331,38 +8665,40 @@ approximations.) > generically only for a "subdomain"? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -> + > In any case, this seems to do the trick, and should be quite easy to extend. -I am not familiar with Aldor, but what you suggested does not seem to be Aldor -specific (except for "extend"). Note that you avoided the most important operation -in the example implementation of sin above: for example, sin(1+?*x), where 1+?*x is -in R = UTS(FRAC INT, x,0) and presumably SUPEXPR R would have a new symbol ? from -UPOLYC R, would yield an error message, in addition to what I got in the above -test (that is, sin(1) need not be available during a series expansion of sin even -if you "extend" the definition of sin in series). +I am not familiar with Aldor, but what you suggested does not seem to +be Aldor specific (except for "extend"). Note that you avoided the +most important operation in the example implementation of sin above: +for example, sin(1+?*x), where 1+?*x is in R = UTS(FRAC INT, x,0) and +presumably SUPEXPR R would have a new symbol ? from UPOLYC R, would +yield an error message, in addition to what I got in the above test +(that is, sin(1) need not be available during a series expansion of +sin even if you "extend" the definition of sin in series). > Now the paragraph I still don't quite understand. > -> > > > (If you require your user to give input functions directly from -> > > > GR:=UPXS(F,x,a) or UPS(F,x,a), you will need to first "embed" GR to -> > > > SGR:=UPXS(SUP F,x,a) or UPS(SUP F,x,a), and you can assign t to the main -> > > > variable of SUP F; then you have to repack everything (just the normal -> > > > part of the series up to the order you need) back into EXPR F before -> > > > forming the series in R). -> -> > > That sounds interesting, but I don't think I understand. Do you mean I can -> > > "lift" a function from GR -> GR to a function SGR -> SGR? I don't see how -> > > this could be done... -> -> > F is a subring of SUP F, so if you have a series with coefficients in F, -> > these are in SUP F (basically, "constants" with respect to the "?" -> > variable). Is it trivial to lift a series in GR to SGR? (you can just use -> > "map"). It is only a coercion from a subdomain to a domain. It is NOT lifting -> > a function from GR -> GR to another function from SGR -> SGR (such lifting -> > would be possible, but not unique unless the image for "?" is decided first, -> > in which case, "map" will do the job too). -> +>> > > (If you require your user to give input functions directly from +>> > > GR:=UPXS(F,x,a) or UPS(F,x,a), you will need to first "embed" GR to +>> > > SGR:=UPXS(SUP F,x,a) or UPS(SUP F,x,a), and you can assign t to the main +>> > > variable of SUP F; then you have to repack everything (just the normal +>> > > part of the series up to the order you need) back into EXPR F before +>> > > forming the series in R). + +>> > That sounds interesting, but I don't think I understand. Do you mean I can +>> > "lift" a function from GR -> GR to a function SGR -> SGR? I don't see how +>> > this could be done... + +>> F is a subring of SUP F, so if you have a series with coefficients +>> in F, these are in SUP F (basically, "constants" with respect to +>> the "?" variable). Is it trivial to lift a series in GR to SGR? +>> (you can just use "map"). It is only a coercion from a subdomain to +>> a domain. It is NOT lifting a function from GR -> GR to another +>> function from SGR -> SGR (such lifting would be possible, but not +>> unique unless the image for "?" is decided first, in which case, +>> "map" will do the job too). + > The one thing I dislike about the signature > > solve(UTS SUP F -> UTS SUP F, List F) @@ -13375,61 +8711,74 @@ if you "extend" the definition of sin in series). > rather have > > solve(UTS F -> UTS F, List F) -> -> and "lift" the mapping to a mapping UTS SUPEXPR F -> UTS SUPEXPR F. Somehow I -> have the feeling that your suggestion above is relevant, however, I don't see -> at all how this can be done. In fact, I doubt that this can be done at all, -> but maybe I'm wrong. - -The signature you proposed probably won't be ideal for the user because if the map -argument in solve involves transcendental functions, you will be in trouble when it -is to be evaluated. I would think a much simpler way of giving the implicit -equation is just an expression in a single variable, something like: - solve(z:EXPR F, x:Symbol, c:F, g:BasicOperator):UTS(EXPR F,x,c) -The EXPR F in the target is meant to allow for other parametric constants in z, and -F is a numerical domain like INT or Float; x is the series variable and c is the -center for the series expansion. - -The problem you are interested in has nothing to do with differential equations (it -may have an application to differential equation) because it is just solving an -implicit equation in series or power series. So all that is needed is an expression -giving the implicit equation, where the dependent and independent variables are -given. + +> and "lift" the mapping to a mapping UTS SUPEXPR F -> UTS SUPEXPR +> F. Somehow I have the feeling that your suggestion above is +> relevant, however, I don't see at all how this can be done. In fact, +> I doubt that this can be done at all, but maybe I'm wrong. + +The signature you proposed probably won't be ideal for the user +because if the map argument in solve involves transcendental +functions, you will be in trouble when it is to be evaluated. I would +think a much simpler way of giving the implicit equation is just an +expression in a single variable, something like: solve(z:EXPR F, +x:Symbol, c:F, g:BasicOperator):UTS(EXPR F,x,c) The EXPR F in the +target is meant to allow for other parametric constants in z, and F is +a numerical domain like INT or Float; x is the series variable and c +is the center for the series expansion. + +The problem you are interested in has nothing to do with differential +equations (it may have an application to differential equation) +because it is just solving an implicit equation in series or power +series. So all that is needed is an expression giving the implicit +equation, where the dependent and independent variables are given. + solve(sin(g(x))- sqrt(x), x,0, g) + would solve g(x) as a series solution in x around 0 for the equation + sin(g(x) -sqrt(x)=0; + and you may want to allow the first argument to be a list LIST EXPR F: + solve([g(x) * D(g(x),x,2) + D(g(x),x)^2 + g(x)*D(g(x),x), g(0)-1, g'(0)-1],x,0,g) -would solve the ODE with initial conditions (but this is really not within the -setup until after one writes down g(x), g'(x), g''(x) in a series with undetermined -coefficients; but then for a fixed order, the equations boil down to an algebraic -system in the undetermined coefficients. Or, if you don't like the similarity with -Mathematica syntax, you can use: + +would solve the ODE with initial conditions (but this is really not +within the setup until after one writes down g(x), g'(x), g''(x) in a +series with undetermined coefficients; but then for a fixed order, the +equations boil down to an algebraic system in the undetermined +coefficients. Or, if you don't like the similarity with Mathematica +syntax, you can use: + solve(sin(y) - sqrt(x),x,0,y) + but then you will be using an implicit convention that y depends on x. > Could you please try to re-phrase what you mean with > > If you require your user to give input functions directly from > GR:=UPS(F,x,a), you will need to first "embed" GR to SGR:=UPS(SUP F,x,a), -> -> in particular, to make things precise, could you give the signature you propose -> for solve(...)? -> + +> in particular, to make things precise, could you give the signature +> you propose for solve(...)? + > Many thanks, > > Martin -Not sure what you are puzzled about. By "give input functions directly from GR", I -mean allowing the implicit equation to be given by expressions involving a power -series, which is probably a bad idea anyway since equations are generally not given -that way. The series expansion of any special or transcendental function should be -dealt with by the solve package (that is, you). +Not sure what you are puzzled about. By "give input functions directly +from GR", I mean allowing the implicit equation to be given by +expressions involving a power series, which is probably a bad idea +anyway since equations are generally not given that way. The series +expansion of any special or transcendental function should be dealt +with by the solve package (that is, you). + +If you are asking about "embed", then perhaps you like the language of +category theory? Treat UTS(-,x,a) (sorry, UPS is not the correct +abbreviation) as a functor from Ring to Ring. Then we have the +following diagram: -If you are asking about "embed", then perhaps you like the language of category -theory? Treat UTS(-,x,a) (sorry, UPS is not the correct abbreviation) as a functor -from Ring to Ring. Then we have the following diagram: F -----> UTS(F,x,a) id | | map v v @@ -13438,49 +8787,23 @@ from Ring to Ring. Then we have the following diagram: So the map in the picture is just UTS(-,x,a) applied to the ring morphism F->SUP(F), which is the identity embedding (SUP(F) as an F-algebra). -The "lifting" is provided I think by the "map" in ExpressionSpaceFunctions2(E,F) in -ES2.spad. So for any s in GR, map(s, s)$ES2(GR,SGR) would be the lifting or -embedding. Of course "map" is far more general, just like UTS(-,x,a) is, and -accepts any morphism between rings. - -[Disclaimer: I have no experience whatsoever with ExpressionSpace or related -domains and packages. I am only exploring this by looking up hyperdoc. Intuition -does not always work in Axiom and syntax may not be correct.] - - -William - - - - +The "lifting" is provided I think by the "map" in +ExpressionSpaceFunctions2(E,F) in ES2.spad. So for any s in GR, map(s, +s)$ES2(GR,SGR) would be the lifting or embedding. Of course "map" is +far more general, just like UTS(-,x,a) is, and accepts any morphism +between rings. +[Disclaimer: I have no experience whatsoever with ExpressionSpace or +related domains and packages. I am only exploring this by looking up +hyperdoc. Intuition does not always work in Axiom and syntax may not +be correct.] \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwtmS-0000Jb-LA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:14:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwtmR-0000IK-5Z - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:14:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GwtmO-0000HU-6f - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:14:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GwtmN-0000HR-VB - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:14:11 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.134] (helo=mail14c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GwtmM-0002vi-Ql - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:14:11 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail14c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kBK5Di52001965; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:13:59 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'billitch'" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:13:42 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, burley@users.sourceforge.net -Subject: New url for SourceForge SVN +From: Bill Page +To: billitch +Subject: New url for SourceForge SVN +Cc: David Burley Thanks to the message from 'billitch' and the work of David Burley at SourceForge it seems that we might finally have a solution to @@ -13501,8 +8824,7 @@ I can really use! :-) Using the formula given by David Burley below, the new url for accessing the build-improvements branch at SourceForge is: -https://axiom.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/branches/build-improvemen= -ts +https://axiom.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/branches/build-improvements The usual variations of this url can be used check out the trunk or other branches. @@ -13520,31 +8842,30 @@ Regards, Bill Page. > Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> >=20 -> > We have problem with SF SVN: first Gaby then I can not make=20 +> > +> > We have problem with SF SVN: first Gaby then I can not make > > "svn copy". Adding file works, but emulating "svn copy" via > > removal and addition of a copy increases repository size, which > > may bit us in the future. -> >=20 +> > > > Actually I am merging changes from build-improvements. I tried > > to "svn copy" gcl and noweb, but I am getting errors: -> >=20 +> > > > svn: COPY of gcl: 403 Forbidden (https://svn.sourceforge.net) -> >=20 +> > > > I am reluctant to commit gcl without sharing, so I will probably > > commit a version which requires users to separately fetch gcl > > (and noweb) if needed. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> On December 18, 2006 11:45 PM billitch wrote: ->=20 +> > Hi ! > I had the same problem and this post fixed my problems : > -http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=3Ddetail&aid=3D1599910&grou= -p_id=3D1& -atid=3D200001 +http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1599910&group_id=1& +atid=200001 > > I now acces via the new URL scheme and everything works... > Kinda strange solution but at least it works. @@ -13592,51 +8913,12 @@ On 2006-11-30 15:45 burley (SourceForge.net Site Admin) wrote: > similarly for any other project. If it works for you, please > post feedback here. If it doesn't, please also post feedback > here. -> -> Thank you, -> -> David Burley -> Quality of Service Analyst, SourceForge.net - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gwxr7-0006hl-13 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:35:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gwxr5-0006g4-3e - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:35:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gwxr3-0006er-Pk - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:35:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gwxr3-0006eU-Ie - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:35:17 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gwxr2-0002WP-Cd - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:35:17 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gwxqv-00084g-6H; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:35:09 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gwxqv-0005SG-0I; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:35:09 +0100 + +\start +Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:35:08 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: William Sit Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing - <9qejqxmjh4.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <4586DF7A.AC9CAF63@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qslfc9rpz.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - <4588B28F.C49EC015@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:35:08 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l Dear William, @@ -13698,8 +8980,7 @@ Replace Aldor with SPAD if you like. But it seems to me that there is more hope to make things "generic" in Aldor... > Note that you avoided the most important operation in the example -> implementation of sin above: for example, sin(1+?*x), where 1+?*x is in R = -> UTS(FRAC INT, x,0) and presumably SUPEXPR R would have a new symbol ? from +> implementation of sin above: for example, sin(1+?*x), where 1+?*x is in R > UTS(FRAC INT, x,0) and presumably SUPEXPR R would have a new symbol ? from > UPOLYC R, would yield an error message, No, I didn't omit anything I need. Even if R = UTS(FRAC INT, x, 0), i.e., R has @@ -14066,37 +9347,12 @@ works. This is probably due to missing [[/]] in [[UFPS]]. @ \end{document} - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx80V-00051r-Ab - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:25:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx80U-000516-Bw - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:25:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx80T-00050A-DO - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:25:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx80R-0004ws-1b; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:25:39 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gx80Q-0001SW-8P; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:25:38 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gx7zq-0001w9-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:25:02 -0500 -To: "Stavros Macrakis" - <45895E78.1090409@math.unicaen.fr> - - <8b356f880612200924o3575c593ie22199a9be17196e@mail.gmail.com> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 20 Dec 2006 15:25:02 -0500 -Cc: list, Bill Page, - Robert Dodier, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Tim Daly +From: Camm Maguire +To: Stavros Macrakis Subject: Re: [Maxima] computation time information +Cc: Bill Page, Robert Dodier Greetings! At least on unix, we have: @@ -14116,7 +9372,7 @@ then. Take care, -"Stavros Macrakis" writes: +Stavros Macrakis writes: > > (get-internal-real-time)) (float internal-time-units-per-second))) > > By the way, I tried the above with Clisp, GCL, and SBCL on Linux. @@ -14129,44 +9385,12 @@ Take care, > runtime clocks (but I'm not an expert in them). Maybe there is > already some other interface to the high-resolution runtime clock in > GCL? -> -> -s -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx83b-00072f-EJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:28:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx83a-000723-44 - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:28:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx83Z-00071P-Fp - for list; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:28:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gx83Z-00071I-5L; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:28:53 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gx83Y-0002HT-K1; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:28:52 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gx83S-0001wq-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:28:46 -0500 -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc - fails]gazonk again -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 20 Dec 2006 15:28:46 -0500 -Cc: list, Tim Daly, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: [#330 generating 3d plot from hyperdoc fails]gazonk again Greetings! 2.6.8pre uses an approximate scheme using the pid in the file name, at least on unix. Is this not available on windows? cvs @@ -14235,48 +9459,12 @@ Bill Page writes: > > occurs. Does this error message originate with GCL or with > something else that Axiom is trying to do with/too this file? -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPFP-0004jn-UY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:50:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPFO-0004i5-6Q - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:50:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPFN-0004gr-62 - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:50:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GxPFN-0004gl-01 - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:50:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxPFM-0005hn-Cf - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:50:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087C44F440; - Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:50:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1GxPFJ-0001mo-Q8; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:50:09 +0100 -To: list, Francois Maltey -From: Francois Maltey +\start Date: 21 Dec 2006 15:50:09 +0100 -Cc: -Subject: My latex produces error for standard *.pamphlet - file. +From: Francois Maltey +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: My latex produces error for standard *.pamphlet file. Hello, @@ -14305,8 +9493,6 @@ The other pages are right. Do you have any idea ? -Francois - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) @@ -14341,38 +9527,11 @@ No pages of output. Transcript written on elemntry.log. petoncle:~/Axiom$ /usr/local/axiom-local/mnt/linux/bin/lib/noweave Lattice.pamphlet > Lattice.ltx - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPUA-0003cE-Uv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:05:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPU9-0003ap-Iw - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:05:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPU7-0003Yg-Ob - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:05:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GxPU7-0003YX-K5 - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:05:27 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GxPU6-0000o7-TZ - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:05:27 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kBLF5MwE031378 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:05:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:06:35 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Francois Maltey -Subject: Re: My latex produces error for standard *.pamphlet - file. -Cc: list +Subject: Re: My latex produces error for standard *.pamphlet file. It seems you are creating a latex file with \documentclass appearing twice in it. @@ -14409,39 +9568,12 @@ On 12/21/2006 03:50 PM, Francois Maltey wrote: > The other pages are right. > > Do you have any idea ? -> -> Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPaw-0005PQ-KZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:12:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPav-0005PH-Hn - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:12:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxPas-0005MW-Sx - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:12:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GxPas-0005MM-PS - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:12:26 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxPas-0002Cl-12 - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:12:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409254F4B3; - Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:12:16 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1GxPap-0001r6-RM; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:12:23 +0100 -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: My latex produces error for standard *.pamphlet - file. -From: Francois Maltey + +\start Date: 21 Dec 2006 16:12:23 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Francois Maltey +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: My latex produces error for standard *.pamphlet file. Hello Ralf, thanks a lot ! @@ -14453,129 +9585,117 @@ Hello Ralf, thanks a lot ! With -n I got a lot of error. The -delay option, with or without -n, seems right - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxUqA-0003BW-UU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:48:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxUq9-0003AH-TF - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:48:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxUq8-00038q-O0 - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:48:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GxUq8-000386-Ip - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:48:32 -0500 -Received: from [206.46.252.46] (helo=vms046pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxUq7-00015g-Ux - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:48:32 -0500 -Received: from sci.ccny.cuny.edu ([141.155.150.221]) - by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 - (built Apr - 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JAN00JGK5SG704D@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:48:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:48:20 -0500 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing To: Martin Rubey -Message-id: <458AF314.AA79042A@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <9qejqxmjh4.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <4586DF7A.AC9CAF63@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qslfc9rpz.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <4588B28F.C49EC015@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> - <9qhcvq9agj.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: a problem, maybe with strict typing Martin Rubey wrote: > it seems that I am quite difficult to understand. ... The > package is attached below. -I would agree :-). Since you already have the package, I don't know why you are asking these -questions! Actually, after a preliminary reading your package, I have more questions than -answers. I have not yet tried your package and most likely, all these questions may go away once -I do that. - -> Replace Aldor with SPAD if you like. But it seems to me that there is more hope to make things -> "generic" in Aldor... - -I'm not sure about that. I am not convinced that Aldor is a more powerful language. It may have -a better compiler though (better error messages). But we have been through this, too. +I would agree :-). Since you already have the package, I don't know +why you are asking these questions! Actually, after a preliminary +reading your package, I have more questions than answers. I have not +yet tried your package and most likely, all these questions may go +away once I do that. + +> Replace Aldor with SPAD if you like. But it seems to me that there +> is more hope to make things "generic" in Aldor... + +I'm not sure about that. I am not convinced that Aldor is a more +powerful language. It may have a better compiler though (better error +messages). But we have been through this, too. + +> No, I didn't omit anything I need. Even if R = UTS(FRAC INT, x, 0), +> i.e., R has TRANFUN, I don't want to teach SUPEXPR to do something +> with sin(1+?*x). I guess you meant 1+?*x would be in SUPEXPR +> R. Obviously, 1+?*x is not in R, thus SUPEXPR *should* throw an +> error. + +>From a user viewpoint, I was surprised that the authors of UTS and +UPXS would allow a coefficient domain that does not have enough +transcendental constants to be lifted to a series domain with +transcendental functions. In your case, if you are not teaching +SUPEXPR anything (including expanding sin(1+?*x) in series) then I +don't know why you need SUPEXPR or what it is for. Do you mean just to +"make" a domain similar to SUP F but just say it belong to the +category TRANFUN, without actually being so (much like UTS)? Don't +you need to expand things in series at all? Even if you are relegating +the users to provide the series map, where do you expect them to +obtain the series other than starting with EXPR? + +> > The signature you proposed probably won't be ideal for the user +> > because if the map argument in solve involves transcendental +> > functions, you will be in trouble when it is to be evaluated. -> No, I didn't omit anything I need. Even if R = UTS(FRAC INT, x, 0), i.e., R has TRANFUN, I -> don't want to teach SUPEXPR to do something with sin(1+?*x). I guess you meant 1+?*x would be -> in SUPEXPR R. Obviously, 1+?*x is not in R, thus SUPEXPR *should* throw an error. - ->From a user viewpoint, I was surprised that the authors of UTS and UPXS would allow a -coefficient domain that does not have enough transcendental constants to be lifted to a series -domain with transcendental functions. In your case, if you are not teaching SUPEXPR anything -(including expanding sin(1+?*x) in series) then I don't know why you need SUPEXPR or what it is -for. Do you mean just to "make" a domain similar to SUP F but just say it belong to the category -TRANFUN, without actually being so (much like UTS)? Don't you need to expand things in series -at all? Even if you are relegating the users to provide the series map, where do you expect them -to obtain the series other than starting with EXPR? - -> > The signature you proposed probably won't be ideal for the user because if -> > the map argument in solve involves transcendental functions, you will be in -> > trouble when it is to be evaluated. -> > No. As long as F is "large" enough, it just works. -Well how "large"? Including transcendental constants? Which domain has them besides EXPR? +Well how "large"? Including transcendental constants? Which domain has +them besides EXPR? + +> > The problem you are interested in has nothing to do with +> > differential equations (it may have an application to differential +> > equation) because it is just solving an implicit equation in +> > series or power series. So all that is needed is an expression +> > giving the implicit equation, where the dependent and independent +> > variables are given. -> > The problem you are interested in has nothing to do with differential -> > equations (it may have an application to differential equation) because it is -> > just solving an implicit equation in series or power series. So all that is -> > needed is an expression giving the implicit equation, where the dependent and -> > independent variables are given. -> > Yes. -Do you restrict the implicit equation to be polynomial? Why do you consider an implicit equation -as a map from UTS to UTS? Say I want to solve the implicit equation x y(x) = 1 in power series -around x=1. Do you want me to create a map from UTS(INT,x,1) to UTS(INT,x,1) by sending a -series s(x) to x s(x) - 1? And you would not allow implicit equation such as sin(y(x))=sqrt(x) -be entered that way, but you require the user to create a map sending a series s(x) to the -series expansion of sin(s(x))-sqrt(x) (so the user is responsible for the series expansion)? And -what would be the implicit equation you are to solve if the user actually inputs some map that -say takes a series s(x) = c0 + c1 (x-1) + t(x) (where t(x) is the tail end of s(x)) to the -series c1 + c0(x-1) + t(x) (or some other ways of mangling the series such as swapping all -even-indexed coefficients with previous odd-coefficients and the result combined with other -operations)? - -> > > Could you please try to re-phrase what you mean with -> -> > > If you require your user to give input functions directly from -> > > GR:=UPS(F,x,a), you will need to first "embed" GR to SGR:=UPS(SUP F,x,a), -> -> > > in particular, to make things precise, could you give the signature you -> > > propose for solve(...)? -> -> > Not sure what you are puzzled about. By "give input functions directly from -> > GR", I mean allowing the implicit equation to be given by expressions -> > involving a power series, which is probably a bad idea anyway since equations -> > are generally not given that way. The series expansion of any special or -> > transcendental function should be dealt with by the solve package (that is, -> > you). -> -> I don't understand. Nowhere I suggested to deal with expressions involving -> power series - assuming that, with "expressions" you refer to something like -> EXPR. So far I only considered maps from UTS -> UTS and, somewhat -> alternatively, elements of a FunctionSpace that I interpret as maps UTS -> UTS. - -Even in UTS, which is of category TRANFUN, you are allowed to form "expressions" like sin, cos, -etc with arguments in UTS and supposedly returning elements in UTS. But unless the coefficient -ring has transcendental constants, sin and cos, etc. simply don't work in UTS. But, there is -nothing to prevent a user to use transcendental functions in the implicit equation (especially -if the implicit equation is not actually evaluated). Moreover, as indicated above, maps from UTS -to UTS can be very general and need not be given by a "formula" involving the argument s(x) in -UTS, but by an infinite stream of formulae for its (new) coefficients. And, if you allow using -f: UTSSUPF -> UTSSUPF, what is the implicit equation if f(s(x)) involves the main variable in -SUP F? Why do you treat f as if it has two arguments, as in f(x,y(x))? Is y(x) being substituted -into the main variable of SUP F? In that case, why must f involve it? Are there any -restrictions on f for your package? +Do you restrict the implicit equation to be polynomial? Why do you +consider an implicit equation as a map from UTS to UTS? Say I want to +solve the implicit equation x y(x) = 1 in power series around x=1. Do +you want me to create a map from UTS(INT,x,1) to UTS(INT,x,1) by +sending a series s(x) to x s(x) - 1? And you would not allow implicit +equation such as sin(y(x))=sqrt(x) be entered that way, but you +require the user to create a map sending a series s(x) to the series +expansion of sin(s(x))-sqrt(x) (so the user is responsible for the +series expansion)? And what would be the implicit equation you are to +solve if the user actually inputs some map that say takes a series +s(x) = c0 + c1 (x-1) + t(x) (where t(x) is the tail end of s(x)) to +the series c1 + c0(x-1) + t(x) (or some other ways of mangling the +series such as swapping all even-indexed coefficients with previous +odd-coefficients and the result combined with other operations)? + +>> > Could you please try to re-phrase what you mean with + +>>> If you require your user to give input functions directly from +>>> GR:=UPS(F,x,a), you will need to first "embed" GR to SGR:=UPS(SUP F,x,a), + +>>> in particular, to make things precise, could you give the signature you +>>> propose for solve(...)? + +> > Not sure what you are puzzled about. By "give input functions +> > directly from GR", I mean allowing the implicit equation to be +> > given by expressions involving a power series, which is probably a +> > bad idea anyway since equations are generally not given that +> > way. The series expansion of any special or transcendental +> > function should be dealt with by the solve package (that is, you). + +> I don't understand. Nowhere I suggested to deal with expressions +> involving power series - assuming that, with "expressions" you refer +> to something like EXPR. So far I only considered maps from UTS -> +> UTS and, somewhat alternatively, elements of a FunctionSpace that I +> interpret as maps UTS -> UTS. + +Even in UTS, which is of category TRANFUN, you are allowed to form +"expressions" like sin, cos, etc with arguments in UTS and supposedly +returning elements in UTS. But unless the coefficient ring has +transcendental constants, sin and cos, etc. simply don't work in +UTS. But, there is nothing to prevent a user to use transcendental +functions in the implicit equation (especially if the implicit +equation is not actually evaluated). Moreover, as indicated above, +maps from UTS to UTS can be very general and need not be given by a +"formula" involving the argument s(x) in UTS, but by an infinite +stream of formulae for its (new) coefficients. And, if you allow using +f: UTSSUPF -> UTSSUPF, what is the implicit equation if f(s(x)) +involves the main variable in SUP F? Why do you treat f as if it has +two arguments, as in f(x,y(x))? Is y(x) being substituted into the +main variable of SUP F? In that case, why must f involve it? Are +there any restrictions on f for your package? > > If you are asking about "embed", then perhaps you like the language of > > category theory? Treat UTS(-,x,a) (sorry, UPS is not the correct @@ -14591,43 +9711,19 @@ restrictions on f for your package? > defining y(x) which get mapped to the power series expansion of the function > y(x)? -No, I said treat UTS(-,x,a) as a functor. So the arrow F ----> UTS(F,x,a) simply associates a -ring F (an object of the ring category) with another ring UTS(F,x,a). In math notation, -suppressing the center a, it takes F to F[[x]]. It is NOT a set map that takes f in F to some g -in F[[x]] (even though of course, F can be embedded naturally in F[[x]]). The map id is a SET -map that takes f in F to f in SUP(F), thus inducing a SET map from on the right of the diagram. -Of course, both id and map are algebra homomorphisms over F. - -William - - - +No, I said treat UTS(-,x,a) as a functor. So the arrow F ----> +UTS(F,x,a) simply associates a ring F (an object of the ring category) +with another ring UTS(F,x,a). In math notation, suppressing the center +a, it takes F to F[[x]]. It is NOT a set map that takes f in F to some +g in F[[x]] (even though of course, F can be embedded naturally in +F[[x]]). The map id is a SET map that takes f in F to f in SUP(F), +thus inducing a SET map from on the right of the diagram. Of course, +both id and map are algebra homomorphisms over F. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxVpz-0000AP-IU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:52:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxVpy-00008o-Ab - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:52:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxVpu-0008RZ-B2 - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:52:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GxVpu-0008RT-8p - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:52:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxVpt-0002zm-Rn - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:52:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C65B41088 - for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:52:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by localhost with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1GxVps-0001MN-9I - for list; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:52:20 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 21 Dec 2006 22:52:20 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: I can't extract a constant coefficient. Hello, @@ -14662,45 +9758,14 @@ I have done the //A// case, I think I'm going to do the //B// case. I don't know if it's a good idea to do the //C// case. I don't know how to do the first example. -Francois, in France. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxzdC-0007NX-R0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:41:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GxzdB-0007LG-Cp - for list; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:41:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gxzd8-0007Ha-L3 - for list; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:41:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gxzd8-0007HX-Hf - for list; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:41:10 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gxzd7-0001Pe-Tg - for list; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:41:10 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D955E4F3C6; - Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:40:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kBN5elbX024512; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:40:49 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kBN5eliC024511; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:40:47 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: New url for SourceForge SVN -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 23 Dec 2006 06:40:46 +0100 -Cc: list, 'billitch' , - burley@users.sourceforge.net +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: New url for SourceForge SVN +Cc: billitch, David Burley -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -14727,40 +9792,13 @@ Axiom depot paths is a direct mirror and the command is where "/mirror/axiom" is my direct mirrored path to Axiom. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gz6yU-0004El-Sf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:43:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gz6yS-00049R-Ci - for list; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:43:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gz6yQ-000474-OU - for list; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:43:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gz6yQ-00046W-Ig - for list; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:43:46 -0500 -Received: from [128.194.138.12] (helo=pine.cs.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gz6yP-0001Ci-Vy - for list; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:43:46 -0500 -Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-14.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.14]) - by pine.cs.tamu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id kBQ7hhKW023986; - Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:43:44 -0600 (CST) -Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) - id 74B731AA1B; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:43:56 -0600 (CST) -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Dec 2006 01:43:56 -0600 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom/GCL on windows -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -14779,46 +9817,15 @@ Bill -- Let me know when you get a chance to have a shot at this diff. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0PyI-0004ST-Vx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:13:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0PyG-0004R7-Nf - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:13:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0PyF-0004Pl-0Q - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0PyE-0004PU-Od - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:58 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H0PyD-0003t1-6m - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:58 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A6CCD67700; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:55 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 2705A672AD; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:12:53 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Axiom/GCL on windows -Thread-Index: AccowZeu/6NOGPjWT0WXWdsXnmcyagC0ZIEg From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows On December 26, 2006 2:44 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: -> ...=20 +> ... > | That's excellent! Let me know how/if I can help. One thing I > | plan to do after you commit the recent change for the SPAD > | variable is to diff against axiom--windows--1. There were @@ -14829,11 +9836,11 @@ On December 26, 2006 2:44 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | most critical are probably some unix system dependencies such > | as 'rm' and 'mv' commands which should really be implemented > | in a more portable lisp manner. ->=20 +> > Bill -- ->=20 +> > Let me know when you get a chance to have a shot at this diff. ->=20 +> Here is the list of patches that I was able to isolate between axiom--windows--1 and the current build-improvements. These patches @@ -14850,7 +9857,7 @@ diff -r d4e8f2a7df42 src/interp/cfuns.lisp.pamphlet @@ -58,12 +58,23 @@ (system:define-foreign-function :c '|copyEnvValue| :fixnum) ) -=20 + +;; Staged directoryp to deal with Windows/Unix stat differences. #+KCL (progn @@ -14869,7 +9876,7 @@ diff -r d4e8f2a7df42 src/interp/cfuns.lisp.pamphlet +#+KCL +(defun |makedir| (directory-name) + (|makedir-c| directory-name)) -=20 + #+:CCL (defun |directoryp| (fn) diff -r d4e8f2a7df42 src/interp/construc.lisp.pamphlet @@ -14895,14 +9902,14 @@ innames)))) + (with-open-file (out (lspname outname) :direction :output) (dolist (inname innames) - (format t "cat ~a >>~a~%" (fullcode inname) (lspname outname)) -- (system::system=20 +- (system::system - (format nil "cat ~a >>~a" (fullcode inname) (lspname outname))))))) + (format t "Appending file ~a to ~a~%" (fullcode inname) (lspname outname)) + (with-open-file (in (fullcode inname)) + (si::copy-stream in out))))))) -=20 -=20 + + (defun |pathname| (p) diff -r d4e8f2a7df42 src/interp/daase.lisp.pamphlet --- a/src/interp/daase.lisp.pamphlet Tue Dec 26 10:35:30 2006 +0000 @@ -14915,40 +9922,40 @@ diff -r d4e8f2a7df42 src/interp/daase.lisp.pamphlet filename))) + (when erase? (delete-file filename)) filename)) -=20 + ;; rewrite this so it works in mnt diff -r d4e8f2a7df42 src/interp/i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet --- a/src/interp/i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet Tue Dec 26 10:35:30 2006 +0000 +++ b/src/interp/i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet Fri Dec 29 16:23:12 2006 -0500 -@@ -834,9 +834,9 @@ withAsharpCmd args =3D=3D +@@ -834,9 +834,9 @@ withAsharpCmd args == --% )copyright -- display copyright notice -=20 - summary l =3D=3D + + summary l == - OBEY STRCONC ('"cat ",getEnv('"AXIOM"),'"/lib/summary") + TYPE_-CONTENTS_-OF_-FILE STRCONC (getEnv('"AXIOM"),'"/lib/summary") - copyright () =3D=3D + copyright () == - OBEY STRCONC ('"cat ",getEnv('"AXIOM"),'"/lib/copyright") + TYPE_-CONTENTS_-OF_-FILE STRCONC (getEnv('"AXIOM"),'"/lib/copyright") -=20 + --% )credits -- display credit list -=20 + diff -r d4e8f2a7df42 src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet --- a/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet Tue Dec 26 10:35:30 2006 +0000 +++ b/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet Fri Dec 29 16:15:41 2006 -0500 @@ -94,6 +94,9 @@ but has been changed to read: optionlist))) -=20 + (defun directory? (filename) (|directoryp| filename)) +;makedir (fname) fname is a directory name. +#+:AKCL(defun makedir (fname) (|makedir| fname)) + -=20 + ;; (RDEFIOSTREAM ((MODE . IO) (FILE fn ft dir))) IO is I,O,INPUT,OUTPUT #+:AKCL @@ -240,11 +243,6 @@ but has been changed to read: (file-position stream :end) (write-indextable indextable stream))) -=20 + -;makedir (fname) fname is a directory name. -#+:AKCL -(defun makedir (fname) @@ -14988,7 +9995,7 @@ BOOT::|Integer| BOOT::|Nud| - BOOT:|directoryp|)) + BOOT:|directoryp| BOOT:|makedir|)) (lisp:export - '(VMLISP::SINTP VMLISP::$FCOPY=20 + '(VMLISP::SINTP VMLISP::$FCOPY <> @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@ provides support for compiler code. <> @@ -15051,9 +10058,9 @@ c-doc.boot.pamphlet: OBEY '"cat temp1.input docreport.trailer > docreport.input" c-doc.boot.pamphlet: OBEY '"rm temp.input" c-doc.boot.pamphlet: OBEY '"rm temp1.input" -c-doc.boot.pamphlet: OBEY STRCONC('"awk '$2 =3D=3D +c-doc.boot.pamphlet: OBEY STRCONC('"awk '$2 == ",quoteChar,filename,quoteChar,'" {print $1}' whofiles > /tmp/temp") -compat.boot.pamphlet: sayMessage [" Return Code =3D ", OBEY string] +compat.boot.pamphlet: sayMessage [" Return Code = ", OBEY string] compat.boot.pamphlet: OBEY STRCONC('"notepad ", namestring pathname file) compat.boot.pamphlet: OBEY STRCONC('"$AXIOM/lib/SPADEDIT ",namestring @@ -15077,17 +10084,17 @@ g-util.boot.pamphlet: OBEY g-util.boot.pamphlet:; OBEY g-util.boot.pamphlet:(DEFUN |update| NIL (PROGN (OBEY (STRCONC (MAKESTRING "SPADEDIT ") (STRINGIMAGE /VERSION) (MAKESTRING " ") -(STRINGIMAGE /WSNAME) (MAKESTRING " A"))) (/UPDATE)))=20 +(STRINGIMAGE /WSNAME) (MAKESTRING " A"))) (/UPDATE))) ht-root.boot.pamphlet: -- OBEY STRCONC('"rm -f ", pathname) ht-root.boot.pamphlet: OBEY STRCONC('"$AXIOM/lib/hthits",'" _"",s,'"_" ",source,'" > ",target) -i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: rc :=3D OBEY command -i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: rc :=3D OBEY cmd -i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: rc :=3D OBEY cmd +i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: rc := OBEY command +i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: rc := OBEY cmd +i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: rc := OBEY cmd i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: OBEY STRCONC('"$AXIOM/lib/SPADEDIT ",namestring helpFile) i-syscmd.boot.pamphlet: OBEY command -nlib.lisp.pamphlet: (si::system (format nil "mv ~S ~S~%"=20 +nlib.lisp.pamphlet: (si::system (format nil "mv ~S ~S~%" nlib.lisp.pamphlet: (system (concat "rm -r " dirname))) obey.lisp.pamphlet:(defun OBEY (S) spad.lisp.pamphlet:(defun CLEARDATABASE () (OBEY "ERASE MODEMAP @@ -15130,43 +10137,12 @@ It is necessary that be accessible in the Windows PATH. -Regards, -Bill Paqe. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0T0O-0006j0-QZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0T0M-0006ie-Vr - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0T0L-0006ho-5s - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0T0L-0006hl-2x - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H0T0K-0003ZZ-Nq - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4F6EF66210; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6692965FEA; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:19 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows +\start Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:27:17 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Axiom/GCL on windows -Thread-Index: AccowZeu/6NOGPjWT0WXWdsXnmcyagC0ZIEgAAdWp4A= From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows +Cc: Camm Maguire Gaby, Camm, @@ -15238,44 +10214,12 @@ Dumping .bss into executable... Perhaps there is something missing in the lisp reader that evaluations the -eval string on Windows? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0TSI-0001kR-Ov - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:56:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0TSG-0001k8-8x - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:56:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0TSF-0001jh-BK - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:56:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0TSF-0001jd-62 - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:56:11 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H0TSE-0006ZW-P5 - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:56:10 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8B1C85C7; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:56:09 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 14829-26; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF93C8581; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824FB46DE01; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -15326,43 +10270,11 @@ linux boxes. Nice detective work. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0TvM-0002bk-Gt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:26:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0TvK-0002bf-FS - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:26:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1H0TvJ-0002aD-12 - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:26:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H0TvI-0002Zr-Pj - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:26:12 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H0TvI-000406-DZ - for list; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:26:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17846C7726; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:26:12 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 16613-10; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:26:11 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7882EC7721; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:26:11 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C60A46DE01; - Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:26:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:26:11 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: RE: Axiom/GCL on windows -Cc: list On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -15394,7 +10306,5 @@ On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Page, Bill wrote: Thanks! --- Gaby - diff --git a/book/2007-02.txt b/book/2007-02.txt index 9f2b672..87e9abf 100644 --- a/book/2007-02.txt +++ b/book/2007-02.txt @@ -355,12 +355,12 @@ Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) Thu, 1 Feb 2007 04:39:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 04:39:39 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +To: Waldek Hebisch Cc: list, axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [426] branches/wh-sandbox -On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 whebisch@users.sourceforge.net wrote: +On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 Waldek Hebisch wrote: [...] @@ -465,7 +465,7 @@ From: Waldek Hebisch Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 whebisch@users.sourceforge.net wrote: +> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > [...] > @@ -626,7 +626,7 @@ Cc: list On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -| > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 whebisch@users.sourceforge.net wrote: +| > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > | > [...] | > @@ -706,7 +706,7 @@ Cc: list > On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> | > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 whebisch@users.sourceforge.net wrote: +> | > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 Waldek Hebisch wrote: > | > > | > [...] > | > @@ -846,7 +846,7 @@ On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > | > | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -| > | > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 whebisch@users.sourceforge.net wrote: +| > | > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > | > | > | > [...] | > | > @@ -985,7 +985,7 @@ Cc: list > | > On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > | > > | > | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> | > | > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 whebisch@users.sourceforge.net wrote: +> | > | > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 Waldek Hebisch wrote: > | > | > > | > | > [...] > | > | > @@ -1749,7 +1749,7 @@ Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [427] branches/wh-sandbox -> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 whebisch@users.sourceforge.net wrote: +> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > | + * src/interp/setq.lisp.pamphlet: Turn on pretty printing. > @@ -14546,14 +14546,14 @@ Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (soliton.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.146.33]) Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:16:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 495DA1AA4D; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:16:43 -0600 (CST) -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +To: Waldek Hebisch From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 16 Feb 2007 17:16:43 -0600 Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [437] branches/wh-sandbox -whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +Waldek Hebisch writes: [...] @@ -14677,7 +14677,7 @@ From: Waldek Hebisch Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +> Waldek Hebisch writes: > > [...] > diff --git a/book/2007-03.txt b/book/2007-03.txt index c1f4956..1266525 100644 --- a/book/2007-03.txt +++ b/book/2007-03.txt @@ -2816,17 +2816,17 @@ Received: from hpcf.upr.edu ([136.145.54.75] helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) for list; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:22:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 20592 invoked by uid 7797); 5 Mar 2007 12:19:17 -0000 Received: from 70.45.46.72 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 + Humberto Zuazaga, uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. 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Processed in 0.237693 secs); 05 Mar 2007 12:19:17 -0000 list Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.46.72) + (Humberto Zuazaga@70.45.46.72) by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Mar 2007 12:19:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:19:24 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: ANSI Lisp and Axiom (Boot) <871wk46m5m.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> @@ -2949,7 +2949,7 @@ Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-10.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.10]) Mon, 5 Mar 2007 06:52:01 -0600 (CST) Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 78A7F1AABE; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 06:53:09 -0600 (CST) -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: ANSI Lisp and Axiom (Boot) <871wk46m5m.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> <87odn8q7yf.fsf@soliton.cs.tamu.edu> @@ -2959,7 +2959,7 @@ From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 05 Mar 2007 06:53:09 -0600 Cc: Kai Kaminski , list -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | diff --git a/book/2007-04.txt b/book/2007-04.txt index 2369c15..3552bef 100644 --- a/book/2007-04.txt +++ b/book/2007-04.txt @@ -32233,7 +32233,7 @@ Index: ChangeLog.wh + 2007-04-21 Waldek Hebisch Waldek Hebisch Gabriel Dos Reis Gabriel Dos Reis - Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga + Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga Index: config/var-def.mk =================================================================== --- config/var-def.mk (revision 512) @@ -35020,14 +35020,14 @@ Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-24.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.24]) Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:16:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC9591AAEB; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:15:40 -0500 (CDT) -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +To: Waldek Hebisch From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Apr 2007 07:15:40 -0500 Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [517] branches/wh-sandbox -whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +Waldek Hebisch writes: | Revision: 517 | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=517&view=rev @@ -35070,7 +35070,7 @@ From: Waldek Hebisch Cc: list Subject: noweb tarball -> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +> Waldek Hebisch writes: > > | Revision: 517 > | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=517&view=rev @@ -35136,14 +35136,14 @@ Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-24.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.24]) Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:56:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38EE21AAEB; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:55:25 -0500 (CDT) -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +To: Waldek Hebisch From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Apr 2007 08:55:25 -0500 Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [508] branches/wh-sandbox -whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +Waldek Hebisch writes: | Revision: 508 | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=508&view=rev @@ -35746,7 +35746,7 @@ From: Waldek Hebisch Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +> Waldek Hebisch writes: > > | Revision: 508 > | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=508&view=rev @@ -35812,7 +35812,7 @@ Cc: list Quoting Waldek Hebisch: > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: ->> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +>> Waldek Hebisch writes: >> >> | Revision: 508 >> | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=508&view=rev @@ -38317,14 +38317,14 @@ Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-12.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.12]) Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:37:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 244101AAEB; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:37:19 -0500 (CDT) -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +To: Waldek Hebisch From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 29 Apr 2007 04:37:19 -0500 Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [518] branches/wh-sandbox -whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +Waldek Hebisch writes: | Revision: 518 | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=518&view=rev @@ -38709,7 +38709,7 @@ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:19:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch Cc: list -> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +> Waldek Hebisch writes: > > | Revision: 518 > | http://svn.sourceforge.net/axiom/?rev=518&view=rev diff --git a/book/2007-05.txt b/book/2007-05.txt index 914be30..9bc106a 100644 --- a/book/2007-05.txt +++ b/book/2007-05.txt @@ -4713,21 +4713,21 @@ Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) Received: from hpcf.upr.edu ([136.145.54.75] helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from ) id 1Hjzty-00026l-2h + (envelope-from Humberto Zuazaga) id 1Hjzty-00026l-2h for list; Fri, 04 May 2007 11:40:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 27702 invoked by uid 7797); 4 May 2007 15:37:09 -0000 Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 + Humberto Zuazaga, uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. 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Processed in 0.265386 secs); 04 May 2007 15:37:09 -0000 list Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) + (Humberto Zuazaga@136.145.54.123) by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 4 May 2007 15:37:08 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 11:41:31 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page, list Subject: Re: Test of a WEB style @@ -50142,14 +50142,14 @@ Received: from soliton.cs.tamu.edu (vpn-10.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.150.10]) Sun, 27 May 2007 11:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: by soliton.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A72321AAEB; Sun, 27 May 2007 11:45:20 -0500 (CDT) -To: whebisch@users.sourceforge.net +To: Waldek Hebisch From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 May 2007 11:45:20 -0500 Cc: axiom-commit@lists.sourceforge.net, list Subject: Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [571] branches/wh-sandbox -whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +Waldek Hebisch writes: [...] @@ -50187,7 +50187,7 @@ Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 18:51:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Waldek Hebisch Cc: list -> whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +> Waldek Hebisch writes: > > [...] > @@ -50239,7 +50239,7 @@ Cc: list On Sun, 27 May 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: -| > whebisch@users.sourceforge.net writes: +| > Waldek Hebisch writes: | > | > [...] | > diff --git a/book/2007-09.txt b/book/2007-09.txt index 32ea5ae..e388b0d 100644 --- a/book/2007-09.txt +++ b/book/2007-09.txt @@ -4846,7 +4846,7 @@ Received: (from daly@localhost) by axiom-developer.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id l85IYgbg005539; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:34:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:34:42 -0500 -To: "Franz Huber" +To: Franz Huber Cc: list Subject: SpadHelp files diff --git a/changelog b/changelog index 46de73b..e02d708 100644 --- a/changelog +++ b/changelog @@ -1,3 +1,5 @@ +20140516 tpd src/axiom-website/patches.html 20140516.01.tpd.patch +20140516 tpd book/*.txt email cleanup 20140515 tpd src/axiom-website/patches.html 20140515.01.tpd.patch 20140515 tpd bookvol4 add operationalist details 20140514 tpd src/axiom-website/patches.html 20140514.01.tpd.patch diff --git a/src/axiom-website/patches.html b/src/axiom-website/patches.html index b0a4f45..e4a39cd 100644 --- a/src/axiom-website/patches.html +++ b/src/axiom-website/patches.html @@ -4342,6 +4342,8 @@ book/*.txt email cleanup book/*.txt email cleanup 20140515.01.tpd.patch bookvol4 add operationalist details +20140516.01.tpd.patch +book/*.txt email cleanup